Rugbyguy
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Madonna looked great, I didn't find her any puffier than usual. Even in broad daylight she looks flawless. Her outfit was great and nicely understated but the gloves didn't work. They only work when she is wearing a costume or something with a bit of an edge to it.
Can't wait to see if Perez is correct and we get a new song with this 'secret project'
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If this is real I'm so bloody excited
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Oh Father for me and Lovespent.
Both give me shivers whenever I hear them as they bring up a lot of pain for me.
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Check out any photo from 2008, particularly photos during the Sticky and Sweet Tour and you can clearly see her face was very tight and pulled and has very slowly but consistently aged every since. The best examples are the press pictures from the premiere she attended with Guy in 2008 and the pics of her arriving at his birthday party and again at her birthday party that year. You can also check out the candids from the Sticky and Sweet book that Guy Oseary released and lets not forget the infamous photos of Madonna leaving the Kaballah centre during the tour rehearsals where she looked anorexic and botoxed and pulled beyond recognition. Those pics were quite shocking to most of us.
She quite clearly had a facelift in 2007/2008 as she had no jowels or loose skin in sight and gradually as the years have progressed they have slowly started to come back. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with her face because I thought she looked incredible in 2008 and even better in 2009. That period is my favourite Madonna era by far but facewise she looked her absolute best during the Confessions era and again in 2012 which was by far is the best she has looked since she had the work done.
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Does anyone find it very odd that several weeks after news reports anounce Madonna has become billionaire that now Janet Jackson has anounced that she's a billionaire as well?
It's even more odd that they claim it's all revenue from her touring and record sales etc, yet nothing is mentioned that if she is indeed a billionaire it's only because she married one.
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she looks gorgeous
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^ Yeah but Bedtime Stories is such a good record that it's 11 tracks just feel like they whiz past.
It really feels like half an album to me when I play the whole thing through.
Thank God we got a year of incredible remixes, every damn single off that record came with at least one amazing remix, even the lone Take a Bow remix that came with the single release was great in my opinion.
Does anyone know if Forbidden Love was ever intended as a single? Wasn't there some debate about the singles choices? Did the record company want Don't Stop and Forbidden Love after Take a Bow but Madonna fought for Human Nature and Bedtime Story? I would never take back those two videos, they are truly up there with her best but Don't Stop and Fordbidden Love would have been easy top 10 hits after the success of Secret and Take a Bow. FL in my opinion may have gone to number one, it's far superior to Take a Bow and also featured flavour of the month Babyface. Don't Stop just reminds me of all the big hits of that era. It would have slotted in nicely on the charts next to TLC and the like.
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I always imagined the Bedtime Stories Tour opening with a haunting and atmospheric Sanctuary (imagine the opening of the DWT but with 90's Madonna in the centre) with Madonna in full Versace regalia and long hair extensions with lots of smoke and dry ice wafting up from below the stage, surrounded by video screens and then rising to the heavens on a platform as the song segues into Bedtime Story just like the album, complete with wind machines and dancers like the Brit performance but elaborated on with a bigger production. She could then blow everyone out of the water with one of her bigger hits but something to fit with the mystical vible of the first section and her long flowing dress and hair. Like a Prayer would be ideal and ending with something moving like Live to Tell or I'll Remember.
The second act would be the big statement piece with heavily choreograpged songs like Human Nature, Express Yourself, Thief of Hearts, Words and Bad Girl. Madonna could bring out her shiny PVC suit or something similar to bring the HN video to life, including the white set from the clip that had the cubes in it that Madonna and the dancers danced within. The suit could be held together by zippers and be slowly taken off her during the set until she's in just a pair of little PVC shorts and a top or something similar to the Justify My Love single cover.
The third act would be RnB heavy, focusing on tracks like IRBYL, Survival, Physical Attraction, Don't Stop, Waiting and Forbidden Love.
The final act would be message driven with songs like Secret Garden and a big finale of Take a Bow before ending with a big encore like Deeper and Deeper or Holiday.
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I would have liked to have seen Your Honesty, Love Won't Wait, Let Down Your Guard and a beefed up Freedom included on the album.
I adore all those tracks. It really stumps me why she chose to limit herself to an 11 track album when there were so many tracks to choose from and her peers at the time like MJ, Janet and Mariah were all doing long playing albums. Madonna had just done one herself with Erotica.
Bedtime Stories is easily one of her best records ever but could have arguably been 'the' best had she included a few more tracks on it.
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Exactly hahaha
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And the new Daft Punk song sounds just like Beat Goes On. If you put her voice over Pharrel's it sounds just like it could have come from the She's Not Me or BGO sessions.
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She looks fantastic. She's had her hair done and obviously the face has been freshened for the BBA ceremony. She looks air brushed.
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We aren't all sluts. I for one would love to be able to marry my partner.
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I do recall reading an article that had the figures for 2003, specifically the Madonna campaign and Gap did experience a significant increase in revenue and sales. I can't recall the exact figures but it was more than 20%.
It was much talked about in the US at the time wasn't it? I can also recall a little tidbit in our local TV guide in Perth where it was mentioned that there was a massive backlash of disappointment from Madonna fans who hated the commercial.
I actually liked it and she looked stunning
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She looks fantastic and I'm so happy to see that she is back in Malawi. I was really concerned that she had abandoned the whole thing.
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How about the glorious 'strike a pose!' from vogue !!!
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Love that pic! One of the best so far.
She's so badass!
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It's like 90's Madonna all over again, ridiculous outfits to bring attention to a cause important to her. It's pretty unflattering but I don't think she intended to look good. I would have thought she would have put her typical sexy Madonna twist to the outfit but it's for a good cause so we can give her a pass but will she quit it with the old fashioned bouffant hair do's already, does nothing for her.
Can't wait to finish work today and watch the speech.
Good on her!
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If anything I find her to be the least accessible she has ever been. Her manner since 2006 has been quite royal like and regal and she behaves as if she is above all of us in the rare TV interviews that she gives. Every once in a while you get a relaxed Madonna like on anderson Cooper or Parkinson but then you get bitchy cold Madonna like on Graham Norton or Oprah in 1996 where she doesn't bother to hide the fact that she would rather be anywhere but giving an interview. The Guy Ritchie divorce in my opinion really changed her and she lost that down to earth edge that she had while she was with him. I give him credit for the fact that he really kept her feet on the ground. She's a totally different person now. Just my opinion, please don't attack me for it.
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Thank you for this thread, a truly magical time in her life and a magical time to be a fan. It was a great period in my life also, final year of school and just such a feeling in the year with the coming millenium and my coming of age as an adult.
In Australia it just felt like hit after hit after hit. We got two number one's in one year (Music & American Pie) as well as two massive top 5 singles (Don't Tell Me & Beautiful Stranger).
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I think it has safely sold between the 5.5/6 million mark.
A monster hit by today's standards.
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I read somewhere that American Life sold over 1 million copies in France alone and was quite popular there.
Didn't she also give a speech to that effect in Paris on the ReInvention Tour?
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- I agree with a Girlie Show type trek in that she should hit places that she either hasn't ever been to or hasn't been to on the last couple of tours.
- She seems to always do well in the US so that doesn't need to change, keep it to a massive two month trek of arena's and a stadium or two.
- Keep Europe to just the big cities like Drowned World and change it up to mainly arena's and a couple of stadiums. She did very well in Italy, Paris and Russia this time around so don't change what isn't broke. She needs to go back to arena's in the UK for obvious reasons and embark on a charm offensive to win her fanbase back in that country.
- She doesn't have the fanbase in Australia anymore for a month long extended Australian tour, it's not realistic. Two weeks max is all she will need to play in Australia with one concert in Perth, Brisbane and Adelaide and multiple concerts in Sydney and Melbourne and possibly a date or two in New Zealand. Now the places she needs to do an extensive tour of is Southeast Asia and Japan, she would make an absolute killing in those regions and rake in the big $.
- She's also very popular in South America so it would make sense to just follow the route of her last two tours.
- I also think South Africa is due for a visit.
- Most importantly she needs to promote the album and lead off single's properly. We are never going to get a promo tour ever again like the one's for Confessions or Ray of Light and she doesn't need to whore herself out like some think she does but she just needs to put some sort of effort in and promote her music in her biggest territories. What I would love to see her do is a proper tour anouncement like some artists do via a press conference with a junket afterwards for media to interview her to drum up interest in the tour. A few posters around the city isn't good enough for Madonna, she needs to get off her ass and promote her tour. A press conference in Sydney or Melbourne with a couple of additional television interviews and maybe an instore signing would most likely generate enough interest to sell out an entire leg of the tour here and create a lot of interest. A chat show here and there in the US and a proper debut performance of her new single on an awards show or something would be sufficient also. I would love to see her do a few mini concerts like she did for Music and Confessions as the interest generated is worth the effort and it creates a real buzz around the album launch. If she can't be assed doing interviews anymore than a couple of performances or in store signings would be great. I also miss the days when you would walk into a newsagent around the time of an album release and she would be on the cover of half a dozen magazines all at once... those were the days.
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To answer the question I believe she is just sick of hearing her old songs.
Imagine how many times she has listened to them in the studio or rehearsed them for tours, soundchecks, performances etc.
Didn't she rehearse Hung Up for the MTV awards something like 30 times? I read a quote somewhere from someone to that effect.
I love her reinventions, admittedly not the guitar reinventions except for maybe I Don't Give, I love New York and Candy Perfume Girl.
Hated that PDP was cut the way it was for MDNA and I really can't see why she had to do that, it's quite irritating really that she decided to do that. Even after seeing the crowd reaction to the song throughout the duration of the tour she STILL kept it at 90 seconds. Would it have killed her to do an edited version of it? Just Madonna on the catwalk singing one of her best known hits. I LOVED the renivented Hung Up on MDNA, just loved it but as she was too far away from the crowd you couldn't really see her so I always felt it should have been performed as an interlude in the place of Best Friend with all the elements in place bar Madonna herself. Loved EY, Vogue and LAP although they were just a little lazy in their choreography but were expertly staged and executed. I loved S&S from start to finish, I think it's one of her best tours ever and is even better now, four years later, she looks phenomenal and dances like an absolute fucking demon. Like a Prayer, Vogue and Into The Groove are possibly her best reinventions EVER! MDNA is a mix of everything that we love about Madonna, the sets, drama and theatrics of BA with the soul and backbone of GS and the presentation and technology of CT. Reinvention was amazing in it's time and lets not forget that we ALL loved it and it looks fucking awesome on a big screen during IGTTYAS but it had it's flat moments, Material Girl, Burning Up, Imagine. Her singing was impeccable however. Drowned World is just pure theatre and art but why the hell was there no Nothing Really Matters or more tracks from Bedtime Stories and it has it's boring moments like the overlong Nobodies Perfect and the WTF moment Mer Girl, both could have done with an edit and Mer Girl dropped entirely as it's boring and she sings it horribly. The only thing that saves it is the amazing video of her as a Geisha getting assaulted. The teaser of Open Your Heart at the start of NP is just cruel and unnecesarry.
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I worry this 'secret project' will just come and go relatively unnoticed unless there is a song and a video attached to it.
Maybe it's going to be a traveling installation like the Ecstatic Process one that travelled with her when she toured Japan for the Confessions Tour. Or maybe we will get another W spread like 2003 and 2006. Those are always nice but hardly anything to get excited about. We have had 30 years of interesting visuals from Madonna, I hope this isn't just another magazine shoot but something that will indeed start a revolution.