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I let it sit tucked away for a while. I’m re listening and the songs are really hitting different guys. To think that she did this 30 years into her career. Our queen is like non other!
On 9/8/2019 at 1:22 PM, KalamazooJay said:
Anyone who can objectively form opinions about music should be able to listen to Madame X and at the very least appreciate what she did here. It’s a true sonic experience. A journey.
I remember I compared this to Tori Amos’s Boys for Pele but I think it’s actually far more similar to Scarlets Walk. Both albums are about an alter ego who’s talking about social and political upheaval. Both are about a woman on a sonic journey during tumultuous times. Although MX is more worldly than SW, they truly share an extremely similar concept.
I have mad respect for Madonna for releasing an album like this nearly 40 years into her career. She’s not resting on her laurels. She’s not in Vegas singing her greatest hits. She’s not releasing a covers album. She’s continuing to push the boundaries of what it means to be a pop star.
However, having Madame X on the majority of the summer still hasn’t changed my mind personally tho. I just can’t get into it the way I have with her previous albums. And that’s ok. An artist like Madonna (or Tori for that matter) can’t release albums that set my soul on fire each and every time.
The songs from the album that I love, I REALLY LOVE: Crave, Come Alive, Medellin, God Control, IDSIF, & I Rise are some of her absolute best.
And who knows, I may find a time in my life when MX really grabs me. Happened with American Life. Happened with Tori’s Under The Pink. That’s the beauty of these two artists. Their records are timeless and they can creep up on you when you least expect it.
When I first listened I felt disjointed. But then I kept listening and I connected to Killers so passionately I seriously just felt myself enlightening to the experience of the album. With time you’ll get there, trust me.
with that being said for me this is a mood album. I try not to listen to it too often because it truly is an experience. and I don’t mean that in a bad way. I’m so proud to stan this woman.
I sucked myself back into atrl and I’m feeling this way right now. People who ARENT fans are always the ones putting her on this insane pedestal talking about how she hasn’t made a great album in over 10 years...disguising themselves as people who truly care when they DONT. I of course have gotten better with handling the negativity because I love her so much and it’s kind of not healthy to get so wrapped up, but it gets very hard sometimes
That review just made me fucking angry
20 minutes ago, Crystal Coffin said:
"Human Nature" has this gritty West Coast Hip-Hop sound that is just sooooooo cool. It's the closing track of my Second Coming Collection (I use the video version).
Do you happen to have a link? I like when instead of don’t hang your shit on me, it’s the loud bang. It’s always gave the song a little more spunk to me
1 hour ago, robster said:
Unleash the Mirwais portion of the album. That has always been my main focus of this entire album, to see those two genius and creative minds unite once again to create sweet magic! I think the Mirwais stuff will be the real heart of the album. That is where the emotion, the innovation, the magic and creativity will be! It was never to be found with Starrah or Mike Dean.. for me at least...
Lyrically though, those three songs that she have released have been fantastic and have also had emotion and creativity..very mature and sublime with beautiful uplifting messages and laid back production. She’s been getting a lot of praise. I’m really proud of her.
Is she not releasing another single before the album? I swore there was another ballad she was gonna release
1 minute ago, Danmacevents said:
Was just about to post the same thing. Come on guys. This last page is just the regurgitated mess from the previous ones. Madonna's mentioning crave and the media are praising the album. That's how long it lasted.
Nobody I know is talking about it which is why I can’t really relate to the feelings others are presenting so I apologize if I sound insensitive. so many people in my crowd are spouting so much positivity about her new songs and era so it sucks to come off of that air and come here and see so much didsapointment.
I GET IT. I do! There’s been performances controversies and things Madonna has done that has made me feel the same that were on a different level. So I understand. But I just feel like we as Madonna fans should expect that she’s gonna fuck up sometimes and upset us because she’s human. I just don’t want us to dwell on it. We’ve got so much to look forward to. I used to let her disappointments get to me really bad but I learned to look past it because underneath it all Madonna is my most favorite artist in the world, not my mom. I want better for her when things go dire but what can you do other than voice your disdain and hope for better moving forward? I just don’t see this as career altering or life changing. I see it as a mis step in her career she can bounce back just like everything else. That’s it.
3 minutes ago, Crystal Coffin said:
Clearly you have nothing substantial to say about the topic anymore. I am just going to quote Kim from another thread so that you understand how utterly derisive the tone of your comments is to us:
They don't understand that this was a MOMENT in Madonna European history, Her first prime time Saturday night slot in decades in some cases, in many countries in front of hundreds of millions of viewers wondering what Madonna's been up to these last few years.
It hasn't gone down as a moment because of the obscured "political message" which btw, had zero impact until the very social media these people are decrying highlighted it (the real political moment of the night was of course the Icelanders who boldly pulled out Palestinian scarfs and held them aloft during the voting)
As @CzarnaWisnia has rightly pointed out, anyone looking to a pop star for political guidance (and who's above voting age) probably has serious issues. Most of us love Madonna for her artistry (which, yes, occasionally touches upon very basic political ideals)
What it has gone down as is a messy performance. Now that's rare from Madonna at the best of times but frankly inexcusable at a mammoth event on the eve of your new album roll out. You get one shot at this kind of thing. Yeah we can watch back 20 times and say "well that bit was good, that line sounded okay".but it doesn't work like that.
A lot of us here were quite rightly sad and upset that out friends, family, personal social media streams (ie not trolls) and respectable news outlets noted how bad she sang, how stiff she was and what an awful choice of song and collaborator she chose to get her message across. The "message" didn't even come into it really. Now when that's the reaction from the 'normal' populace then you can bet your life the social media and media response is gonna be what it was,
So for those who don't understand it, well of course you don't. Try showing a little understanding and empathy towards fans in other territories instead of the usual derision and apoplectic, apologetic, victim playing nonsense.
Yes it has passed, yes social media storms come and go, but the real-world remaining effect is that it went from "Is she on yet? Where's Madonna? What's she gonna sing?" to "She's not very good is she?".
I can go to Gaza, which is practically the largest open-air prison in the world, and tell people there with a smiling face "Life is not a tragedy" too. "I don't see the big deal!"
This whole Eurovision episode, it's already out of my system now. It was just a bad dream trolling an otherwise perfect era but somehow made me appreciate her as an artist even more, next.
Why can’t you express how you feel without insulting me?
9 minutes ago, Nikki said:
yeah, I do think with the right album and good live shows, it'll be alright.. but still.. im also worried about madonna. I hope she isn't losing her confidence to perform live for tv.
It might. I can’t imagine how Madge must feel with having a clear vision of how she wanted things to go, and it not going the way it was supposed to go in her eyes. But she always bounces back bigger and better. It’s a lesson learned and a chance to improve even at this stage in her career
I wonder if that’s why people left this forum? Because people really do love to hurl insults at people for no fucking reason..
Furthermore this is not a tragedy! It’s SIMPLY a bad performance. My point is it’s not the end of the world.
Although I don’t think beside the vocals that it was that bad in the slightest.
1 minute ago, Crystal Coffin said:
I am just going to quote another post of mine to answer this rubbish you are saying to me.
Sorry but you just have no idea how embarrassingly stupid your post looks like.
Honey, idgaf that you think my posts are embarrassingly stupid...I said my peace and I’m done. I don’t see the big deal about a misdirected Eurovision performance because there’s bigger things to worry about. the insults are not a good look
5 minutes ago, Nikki said:
the problem is that she sang this live for 200m ppl.. no one would care if it was a stupid mtv show or festival.. but, I like reading your posts about it. it's less depressing..
I understand that Europe is a whole other force, and Eurovision is a big deal, but honestly think about it. Even if she did what everybody wanted, people would still call it rubbish because she’s madonna. There’s still people calling her Super Bowl performance trash. People HATE Madonna. She could find a cure for cancer and it wouldn’t change a thing. But I understand the disappointment.
6 minutes ago, Kurt420 said:
I just don’t understand it. I used to get upset about things like this...but Madonna is SIXTY years old, still giving us controversial thought provoking performances and concepts of art for her music. She could have easily turned into tribute to herself and released pop bubble gum music with Ariana grande and sing about sunshine and rainbows to please the masses. Hell, she could even lip sync for the rest of her career.
but that’s never been what Madonna is about. She hasn’t been a universally liked superstar since like a virgin, because she decided to stand up for what she believed in after that and turn into a STRONGER SHIT TALKING PHENOMENAL ARTIST. Look at all of these boring fucking artists like Celine dion and Barbara Streisand and Janet Jackson who suck the GP ass and never do anything shocking or thought provoking and use playback all day everyday. Seriously have we ever heard Janet Jackson sing live? EVER?
im so past the disappointment. Madonna is a universal, global achievement. A superstar. A statement in itself. A STANDARD. Nobody else would have the guts to go to a fun campy watered down music show and perform and speak with a message but her. She will never be boring, she will never be predictable, she will never be “oh I’m gonna smile and do la isla Bonita with a smile on my face to make people who don’t give a shit about me happy”
shes madonna! That’s why I love her. And that’s why I always will. And that’s why this shit dosent bother me
Do y’all remember when Madonna kissed drake and got backlash?
...who’s talking about that now? Exactly
16 hours ago, Crystal Coffin said:
The mortifying "A FEW bum notes" script again.
It seems to me that her fans are genuinely ignorant about SOUNDS. It's like, deafness, is just so deeply ingrained in the Madonna Land.
I know I have posted my "final comment", but seeing this blatant delusion among her fans, is what hurts me the most.
You might as well cook a kitten for your dinner and call it "an okay dish".
Have a nice day.
Honestly, and I’ll get flack for this..Madge has never been a consistent live vocalist. EVER. She has sounded bad on many occasions and I have not once cared. Because it’s not for everybody. The fact that she attempts it is courageous in itself because I feel like she even knows it can go either way. But we all know she can singZ
People have ALWAYS said she can’t sing. She’s always had performances on a high popularity level that were big where she’s fucked up vocally. This is nothing new. She’s fucking Madonna for Christ sake. She released..a SEX BOOK AND GOT NATIONAL BACKLASH. Why are people not used to this? Why are people caring this much? Do we know how long she’s been around..how can her career suffer from this when she’s been through worse? Seriously what the fuck is the big deal?
14 hours ago, FreeMySoul said:
I’m not shocked just really disappointed that this is not even a safe place to be a Madonna fan anymore when viscous attacks on Madonna have become the norm. Yes, it’s getting close to bullying all the things that are being said after just one performance. I understand we have a right to express ourselves air our grievances but this has taken an ugly turn the likes of which I don’t remember ever seeing on this forum.
Which is exactly why people left.
I truly don’t give a fuck about eurovision, the performance was ok. People are justifying their blatant horror over this because they live in Europe when Madonna has been through far worse. Madonna breathes and people fucking hate it. You guys make me sick here. Move tf ON!
Not necessarily ashamed, but pleasantly surprised that this is my all time favorite from the ones she’s released.
and can we talk about Quavo? His feature was so tasteful!
The music video leaked.
It’s quite telling when Madonna fans are the only ones complaining about a performance. I literally have not seen one negative comment or reaction from casual and non fans.
5 hours ago, whyme? said:
I mean the general public. Not me.
Didn’t you already post you didn’t like it?
'God Control' should have been the first single from Madame X
in ARCHIVE - The MADAME X Forum
I’m not so sure about that.