Dickens
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Oh and Anna said that Lil"Wayne will be on Revolver
Well, that's unfortunate.
Hopefully, one of our forum's master sound editors, like TheRain1981, will be able to edit the song in order to remove that part (as he did so well with some of the rap and hip-hop elements on the "Hard Candy" tracks).
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I'd love for M to write a book aimed at an adult audience but then she doesn't have the education or the theoretical insight into true Feminism to know where to start. Best to stick to The English Roses rather than The Female Eunuch!
The farther away from feminist theory Madonna stays, the better. Only those in the very narrow world of academia care about that kind of feminism, and it is not the only "true" feminism anyway.
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Madonna has done more for feminism than Greer could ever dream of!
I agree--and Camille Paglia has made much the same point with respect to Madonna versus contemporary feminists as a whole.
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I didn't say Confessions II would DO better, I said it'd probably BE better
Yes, it probably would be.
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"anna_henstridge wrote: no collaboration on the horizon."
Thank God!
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I believe she didn't know where to go after Confessions. So, she went to the hitmakers.
Unfortunately, I think you're probably right about that, which is why we ended up with "Hard Candy."
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And let the haters want some irrelevant Pat Leonard re-hash or, even worse, some Pet Shop Boys produced album with watered down Kylie Minogue-style british synth-pop shit! LOL! Girls, please!
Frankly, that's what I would prefer--certainly far more than Lil' Wayne.
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Should she have turned him [Lil' Wayne] down just for the sake of being superior and above it all?
Yes.
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The bottom line is most Madonna fans ARE NOT major Hip-Hop/R&B lovers.
That's certainly true in my case, and I'm not ashamed of that fact.
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The point I am continually having to make is that--however you feel about them--the versions listed above are the single/hit versions and should be preserved as such on an official release, especially for the sake of those '80s hits. They helped define a decade and should be on CD in original form.
I agree--especially about the 7" versions of "Like a Prayer" and "Express Yourself."
However, I would make two exceptions--for "Vogue" and "Ray of Light." In those cases, I believe that the longer album versions are not only better, but also the more definitive versions (the ones that I remember being played more, especially given that the video and thus album versions of these two were so central to their cultural presence).
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I'm going to send Guy Oseary TheRain1981's DEFINITIVE edits of Holiday and Lucky Star
Good idea. I agree that those edits are the definitive versions.
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Although I'm not impressed by the mash-up production, I do think this is one of the best live vocal versions of "Like a Prayer" that I have ever heard her deliver--indeed, probably the best.
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Who gives a fuck what they said? Madonna made them both publicly talk about her and the tour. She's the winner. This is not about who we vote for or who will win the election.
The real winner is McCain. This episode allows him to reinforce their linkage of Obama to the world of celebrity--as he has done in so many of his ads--and specifically to a celebrity who is seen very negatively by most Americans. It also allows McCain to appear as a sympathetic victim of an unfair Hitler comparison in the minds of many Americans.
This was certainly no favor to Obama.
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The video segment was also condemned by Mr Obama's campaign, but they did not miss the opportunity to attack their rival's attack adverts. "These comparisons are outrageous and offensive and have no place in the political process," Obama campaign spokesman Tommy Vietor said. "We hope that John McCain will offer a similar condemnation as his allies increasingly practice sleazy swift boat tactics."
So now Madonna has been criticized by Obama--or at least by his official spokesperson.
I wonder how this will play with the pro-Obama fans. I predict that they will try to dismiss it as just "what he had to say," but when you use the words "outrageous" and "offensive" to describe someone, as Obama's camp is doing with respect to Madonna, that constitutes a fairly harsh condemnation, which many Madonna fans would ordinarily not like very much at all.
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Now the ADL (the Anti-Defamation League) has condemned the McCain-Hitler linkage. The key thing to remember here is that the ADL is not a right-wing Republican group, but rather a liberal Jewish organization founded by Holocaust survivors:
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/adl-...D&dist=hppr
ADL Condemns Madonna's Use of Hitler in Concert Photo Montage
Last update: 3:17 p.m. EDT Aug. 25, 2008
NEW YORK, Aug 25, 2008 /PRNewswire-USNewswire via COMTEX
The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) today condemned as "inappropriate and offensive" the use by Madonna of an image of Hitler as part of a concert photo montage that also included photos of John McCain, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, and Zimbabwean dictator Robert Mugabe. The images were projected on a screen as Madonna launched her world tour with a live concert in Cardiff, Wales.
Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director and a Holocaust survivor, issued the following statement:
"Comparisons to Hitler have no place in a music concert, or in the presidential campaign.
Whatever Madonna's political or personal views, it is outrageous to invoke Nazi imagery in the context of John McCain's candidacy or to make a comment on American political leadership.
It is inappropriate and offensive to compare any current or former world leaders with the man ultimately responsible for the death of six million Jews and the suffering of countless others during the Holocaust. Doing so trivializes the history of the Holocaust and is an insult to the memories of the victims and their families."
The Anti-Defamation League, founded in 1913, is the world's leading organization fighting anti-Semitism through programs and services that counteract hatred, prejudice and bigotry.
SOURCE Anti-Defamation League
Copyright © 2008 PR Newswire. All rights reserved
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Laugh all you want, but McCain's strategy is working. The race is tied in a year where everyone expected the dem to easily win.
You sure are right about that. Here are the latest poll numbers that prove your point:
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/24...ref=mpstoryview
Poll: Race for White House tied
CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll shows Obama and McCain tied at 47 percent
66 percent of Clinton supporters are now backing Obama
54 percent say choosing Biden as running mate is an "excellent" or "good decision"
By Paul Steinhauser
CNN Deputy Political Director
DENVER, Colorado (CNN) -- It's a dead heat in the race for the White House.
Barack Obama announced Saturday that Joe Biden will be his running mate.
The first national poll conducted after Barack Obama publicly named Joe Biden as his running mate suggests that the battle for the presidency between the Illinois senator and John McCain is all tied up.
In a new CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll released Sunday night, 47 percent of those questioned are backing Obama, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominees, with an equal amount supporting his Republican opponent, McCain.
"This looks like a step backward for Obama, who had a 51 to 44 percent advantage last month," said CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. "Even last week, just before his choice of Joe Biden as his running mate became known, most polls tended to show Obama with a single-digit advantage over McCain."
So what's the difference now?
It may be supporters of Hillary Clinton, who still would prefer the New York senator and former first lady as the Democratic Party's presidential nominee. Watch are Clinton backers on board? »
Sixty-six percent of Clinton supporters -- registered Democrats who want Clinton as the nominee -- are now backing Obama. That's down from 75 percent in the end of June. Twenty-seven percent of them now say they'll support McCain, up from 16 percent in late June.
"The number of Clinton Democrats who say they would vote for McCain has gone up 11 points since June, enough to account for most, although not all, of the support McCain has gained in that time," Holland said.
Clinton and Obama battled throughout the primary season, with Clinton winning more than 40 percent of the delegates. She suspended her bid for the White House and backed Obama in early June, after the end of primary season.
The majority of registered voters, 54 percent, say Obama's choice of Biden, D-Delaware, as his running mate is an "excellent" or "good decision." That number jumps to 73 percent when just asked of registered Democrats. But it drops to 59 percent when narrowed to Clinton supporters. Watch more on the new VP candidate »
"It's not that there's anything wrong with the choice of Joe Biden. A majority rate the Biden selection as excellent or pretty good. Voters think he is qualified to be president, and with the exception of Al Gore in 1992, the public ranks Biden as the most qualified running mate in recent times," Holland said. Watch more on Biden and the road ahead »
"A lot of Americans don't know who he is, but his favorable rating is 13 points higher than his unfavorables. But Biden is not Hillary Clinton, and it's possible that is enough to have moved some of her supporters away from the Democratic ticket, at least temporarily," says Holland.
Among all Democrats, only 38 percent say Obama should have selected Clinton as his running mate.
Still, 74 percent of all voters questioned in the survey said Obama's selection of Biden as a running mate won't have any effect on their vote for president.
The poll was conducted on Saturday and Sunday, with 1,023 adult Americans questioned by telephone. The survey's sampling error is plus or minus 3.5 percentage points for all voters. For registered Democrats, it is plus or minus 4.5 percentage points, and for Democrats who still support Clinton for the party's nomination, it is plus or minus 7.5 percentage points.
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I love Madonna, and I'm voting McCain.
Same here.
This episode just makes me all the more glad that I'm not going to the concert (that--and the atrocious version of "Vogue" on offer this time round).
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Even that "legend" comment was most likely a veiled swipe at Madonna, seeing as Mariah, just recently, scoffed (rightly) at being called a legend because it aged her.
True.
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I'd much rather bash Mariah, who has never said a kind word about Madonna!
So would I.
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Oh dear. I think Kylie's "X" is turning out to be the UK equivalent of Janet's "Discipline" in the US.
Except that at least Kylie can sing.
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Trust me: radio in the U.S. will turn on Mariah in a few years.
I'm looking forward to that.
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Is there any chance for 4 Minutes to peak at no. 2 on the hot 100 finally?
That's what I'm wondering too.
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it'll start picking up real fast now with radio's support and soon she'll get her 19th #1
I wouldn't count on it, at least not given how sales have been so far.
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Isn't she also doing an interview on the Today Show this Friday?
New Single ("Celebrate" or "Celebration"?) to hit Radio Soon
in ARCHIVE - Madonna
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Assuming that the GH will be two discs, this would be my track listing:
Disc 1:
Holiday
Borderline
Lucky Star
Like a Virgin
Material Girl
Crazy for You
Into the Groove
Dress You Up
Live to Tell
Papa Don't Preach
True Blue
Open Your Heart
La Isla Bonita
Who's That Girl
Causing a Commotion
Like a Prayer
Express Yourself
Cherish
Disc 2:
Vogue
Justify My Love
This Used to Be My Playground
Erotica
Deeper and Deeper
I'll Remember
Secret
Take a Bow
Frozen
Ray of Light
Beautiful Stranger
Music
Don't Tell Me
Die Another Day
Hung Up
4 Minutes
Celebrate
Revolver
That would be 18 tracks on each disc. And if single edits were used, they should fit on two 80-minute discs (assuming about 4 minutes per song for the two new tracks).