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Ai Papi Si.

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  1. Stats don't necessarily reflect quality but obviously somebody, somewhere in the US found enough "quality" in 4M to snatch up 2 million copies of it, something like 30 or 40 million (??) youtube hits and people must have been requesting the song for it to get the airplay it did so.......many of you didn't find quality in it or HC but somebody else did.....in fact with 4M it was moreso than any of her songs in nearly a decade and the album had decent word of mouth for it to stick around the charts as long as it did on the strength of 1 hit single. And of course it's one of the biggest sellers of last year worldwide.

    Again, I have to reiterate... SO WHAT?

    Just because some of her gays' peacock feathers were ruffled over this doesn't mean the project was a mistake or should've happened any differently. It is what it is and the HC project was a success critically and commercially. So why change anything about it?

    Who here has said anything about it being a mistake? The worst that was said about it was that is was a shitty album, or that it was transitional (I said that - and transitional doesn't equal bad. It just means it was transitional). And as expected the same troupe of people dampen their undies for no reason. I don't get it. Are you just really angry that it wasn't recieved as well as the last album? And what's so bad about thinking a song or two with Pet Shop Boys would have been interesting? I'm sure you would have loved it yourself.

    After all, no one here started championing Madonna's change in sound until she made Hard Candy and half of her fanbase didn't like it. All of a sudden, Confessions and the 3 albums before it were a "tired" sound, and anyone who liked them more than Hard Candy was just a poof who was stuck in the past. And apparently they all sounded the same too, because anything within the european producer/electro genre sounds totally the same. :rolleyes: To me it just sounds like you guys are finding any old excuse to defend this album, even dismissing the albums she made before it if thats what it means. And I gotta say, for all this R&B talk, it wasn't that much of a genre leap. It was a pop album, a lot like Bedtime Stories and Confessions (which by the same token was hailed as a dance album, but wasn't really). And people still hate it. So that whole "gay men hate R&B, thats why you hate it" theory is a bit meaningless now isn't it?

  2. A Pet Shop Boys album would have at least been more interesting, flop or not. It's funny that people have to resort to "But 4 Minutes was a hit!!!" to give Hard Candy any sort of plus points :lol: Poor Hard Candy. It was a total transitional project for Madonna, you can practically smell it when you play that crap.

    (Cue Pud's Britney taunts :rolleyes::lol: )

    Oh and because I'm obligated to post this anytime I say something bad about Hard Candy: I LOVE MADONNA WITH MY HEART & SOUL & SHE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT FEMALE RECORDING ARTIST OF THE GALAXY! (and yes I do mean it)

  3. Stuart said that towards the end of 2007, when Timbaland & Justin already spoke up and we had the Pharrell leaks.

    I'm sure Warner only told PSB that Madonna is doing a different direction, and when they found out what it is, they obviously didn't like it, that's why Neil spoke so lowly about it. Notice how he did not diss Kylie, because she stayed in the electro dance comfort zone. :lol:

    What is this diss you are talking about?

  4. 8M-10M copies...

    When was the last time someone sold this much? Was it Amy Winehouse? Honestly, those kind of sales are like flukes now. Maybe once every 3 years, someone sells that much. It's not enough to save labels.

  5. As if Madonna would ever stop releasing albums :chuckle:

    Miguel she's not Nine Inch Nails, she's a disco act.

    NIN still releases albums. They're just not through a major record company, the sources of the music industry's demise. That's all I'm saying. If she wants to release physical CDs fine, but since her contract with Warner ended, one would think that she'd be finished with major labels but if she wants to meddle around with Universal, she's really just going the same route once again. Unless she strikes a deal in which they sell her albums for 4.99 with a touring passcode or something. But I doubt that.

  6. Yes of course, I just thought Madonna would be going a different route and just developing her own distribution method like other artists did - Trent Reznor did it with his own "label" (even though its really just a distribution company) called the Null Corporation, and that was just for the physical stuff. Everything else was digital. Major labels had zero to do with it.

    I mean really, you even said yourself that you didn't buy the physical release of Hard Candy :lol: I just assumed it would've been less about the CD now that she's a free agent.

  7. Noone is sellingalbums anymore???' that´s not true!!

    Well just look at the figures from this year. The numbers are dreadful. I wish I could find the article that discussed just how bad album sales have gotten and how much trouble the music industry is in as of right now.

  8. I don't think it matters how well labels promote albums really. No one is selling albums anymore so it's just kind of pointless to keep releasing CDs if you left a major label to get away from all that in the first place. If they offer some sort of interesting deal where the CDs are promoted with concert tickets or specially priced or something then I could see it kind of working, but ultimately if she's a "free agent" she should just be releasing music via her website like Nine Inch Nails did. It made them tons of money.

    Look at how Hard Candy did. It didn't flop but it's sales were pretty mediocre. And although Confessions can be hailed as Madonna's last "hit" album, it didn't break 2 million. I think musically she's doing well with her core fanbase (whatever it is) so if she were to release something on her own, she'd make a lot of money. With NIN there was no advances or music videos or promotional spending other than just creating buzz themselves (and all Madonna has to do is just announce that she's releasing an album on her website and people WILL buy it). NIN reaped pretty much all the profit when they released Ghosts. I think they netted 1 million the first week it was released.

  9. Great news and I can't wait to see the DVD but I'm kind of dissapointed that Madonna's just gonna be releasing stuff on a major label all over again. The music industry is dying a slow and painful death, I thought she would've come up with a far more interesting method of releasing her material like other ex-label bands have done.

  10. Well why do people even bother buying her songs on iTunes if no one cares about hte music? It may be slutty trashy pop but people LIKE IT. And even though I think Britney is lightyears away from Madonna talent-wise, people were calling Madonna's music slutty and throaway in the 80's I'm sure. And we all know that isn't the case.

    Give the girl a break. She's not eating babies or calling herself a "VISUAL ARTISTE WHO IS NOT LOWBROW AND HARKENS BACK TO THE DAYS OF WARHOL." She's Britney. Who cares.

    ACCLAIMED ARTIST WITH 10 YEARS OF SUCCESS.

  11. Britney's album is going to do well whether you guys want to admit it or not. And it deserves to. It's a great album. Again, you can hate her, but this time around there's a big response to what she's doing - not only because her health is back in order, but because the songs are pretty great.

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