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Kylie Minogue
At least one Australian got to see the show...
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I'm calming down now, I think I'll keep it after all. But if I change my mind I will PM you. I'm trying to be more understanding of M. You can't blame her really. You think that face would survive a 24 hours in a high-pressurised cabin? I wouldn't risk it either. I bet she can't even go outside on a hot day in case her face melts.
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No offence meant but ipex perhaps you should take a break from the web for a while. Go outside for some fresh air.
I don't want fresh air. I want smoke-filled air. The smoke of bonfires from Australian fans burning their memorabilia in the streets.
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I want Live Nation's address! Someone give it to me dammit! I want to burn my Royal Box, my autographed SEX book, my limited edition/numbered Blonde Ambition tour poster and everything else, and send them the ashes!
Better still, I want to throw the ashes in Madonna's plastic face - but since she won't be coming here anytime soon, it will have to be an Australian LN representative.
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I want contact details for Live Nation - I want to give them a piece of my mind. I need to vent!! All I can find is this:
http://www.livenationentertainmentnetwork.com/contact/
Does anyone have an email address? And what about email addresses for Guy or Liz? This used to be Liz's email address and she actually replied to me once a few years ago re: a media request but it wouldn't still be current would it?
liz.rosenberg@wbr.com
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And where is Live Nation Australia's office? We should organise a protest rally!!! BITCHES.
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I just posted this on their page - maybe OTT, but I don't give a shit at this point. People need to know the facts.
Excuse me but has everyone lost the plot here. The Oz/NZ LN branch may not have made any confirmed announcement with specific dates, but the head of Live Nation, Arthur Fogel, has indicated in SEVERAL press releases related to this tour that MDNA would be coming to Australia after a 20 year gap! No maybes about it! The Oz/NZ branch may not be accountable for the ultimate decision to not go ahead here, but comments from them in the recent posts by others feed is just another brush off and slap in the face. Someone in LN has made a huge mistake with this situation and they better wake up to themselves and start treating the situation with the respect it deserves. People in the know know that venues were booked, 8 dates to be precise, and so LN's passing of the blame to hoaxes and shit-spinning media is just pathetic. We weren't born yesterday. Where there's smoke there's fire and this situation has burnt the hell down. Just plain liars without any decency to admit that LN collectively screwed up royally.
Good on you! Live Nation are now rubbing salt into the wounds by claiming that Australia was never on the itinerary in the first place, and that it was all just media speculation. Well, how did it end up in their initial media release about the tour? And why the fuck did Live Nation Arthur Fogel CEO say:
"We'll get to markets where she's never been, some exciting new places, and get back to Australia after too long a time."
How can they now pretend Australia was never part of the tour when their own fucking CEO said it was?!!! This is just getting worse and worse - they really know how to add fuel to a disastrous PR fire. I had calmed down but I am getting angry all over again! They are lying AGAIN!!!!!
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Not to keep stirring the pot, but as someone who works in media for a big company (and with its PR team, of course), I read the actual Live Nation statement as either "we are really pissed at our Australian counterparts (live nation office, venue, promoter, whoever) because we can't get this deal signed (for whatever money we are asking), so we are trying to create this scandal so that they will yield" OR "there is a second leg of the tour in the works, but the artist nor her finance/management team has been convinced yet (for whateve host of reasons)."
Time will tell - I have a hunch she'll address this during her Paris concert July 26th, or after the Olympics, as promised.
Here is LN's statement:
"'Madonna's tour will end in South America in December as planned. That's all we can say,' a spokesperson said."
Otherwise, that spokesperson or her manager should be fired. She shouldn't have released a statement without a reason or without a coordinated plan of action with the artist, her rep and her manager. Not in this day and age.
I think you're 100% correct. What makes it even worse is that they clearly knew it was going to be cancelled WEEKS ago and still, they couldn't come up with a better plan. Look at the Italian TV interview from weeks ago when Madonna was asked about going to Australian and New Zealand. See her change of face and her reaction at 1.56. Even more to the point, check out her expression at 2.12 when Madonna realises she's deflected that line of questioning and the interviewer has moved on.
Clearly, she knew back then that the tour wasn't going ahead.[media=]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmAsIkVUWEE[/media]
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I think so too. Rumors are floating about some European arenas in late spring/early summer, but that would not be enough to me for her to generate enough gross, so I'd expect them to add places she hasn't been to at all or in a while & that leaves Asia and possibly Australia later on in the year if she's going for stadiums. If not, and they go for arenas in Australia too, I'm not sure if that would be cost-effective as she would have to play a lot of shows and with the backlash going on... I'm not sure it can happen. The good thing is that if she plays arenas, she can go whenever and doesn't have to worry about the weather. Perhaps anything beyond Europe isn't set in stone yet so they can't really offer an alternative at this point to combat the current wave of backlash. Unfortunate handling of the situation though.
Bitch better come to Australia and do ARENAS after this fiasco, not stadiums. Or better still, intimate theatres. Scrap that, she better play private shows in our LIVING ROOMS!!!
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Have Madonna and Guy made any public comment about *anything* since the Oz tour cancellation? I really can't wait to hear what excuse they come up with. Maybe they're thinking that if they stay quiet for a few days it will all die down and they can ignore it.
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I don't buy this excuse.Madonna is one of those artists who could tour anywhere *without* a new CD and still sellout the arenas.She has an extremely loyal fanbase.
I don't buy it either. GMAYL did better in Australia than than the UK and she's touring the UK right now. It got to #25 in Australia, #37 in the UK.
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Basically what you are saying is that your maturity is influenced by other people's maturity.
In reality, you are either mature or you are not.
If someone is being immature, that does not mean that you have to be too.
You take responsbility of your maturity and she/they will have to be responsible for hers/theirs.
I am sorry to have to say that but some of the comments here are quite immature and irrational.
Things didn't work out for some reason. What is evident is that the intention to continue in 2013 is proved by the fact that ALL tour passes had the writing "MDNA 2012-2013" on them.
Threaths are not going to be of any use.
No, I am not saying that at all. You seem to have a problem with basic comprehension. You called me immature. I disagreed. I don't see what's immature about being pissed off when you're lied to. It is quite natural. And if you *want* to point the finger at someone for immature behaviour (and it seems you do), then perhaps look at the person in this big mess who keeps breaking promises and telling lies - Madonna. That is not mature behaviour by any reasonable person's standards - and if you think it is, don't bother replying because I'm really not interested in conversing with you. I don't know what your problem is anyway. Are you Australian? Are you affected by of this? Were you forced into reading this thread? No? Well, don't slam the door on the way out.
"Madonna cancels plans to tour Australia" is definitely more appropriate than "Madonna cancels Australian tour". There was never an official press release or announcement and this is a fact.
Ah, yes there was - all the initial press releases about the MDNA Tour referred to it ending in Australia and being her first shows in Australia in 20 years. They even included quotes from both Guy and Arthur Fogel confirming it. The Australian leg was one of the main points in the official MDNA press releases and THAT is a fact. You are obviously ignorant about the situation, so stop embarrassing yourself. Goodbye.
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Naturally, this is a PR disaster for Madonna in Australia and New Zealand and is being widely reported by EVERY media outlet here, and so it should be - but in the last few hours it's also starting to be reported by overseas media; this is becoming a PR disaster for her on an international scale. And frankly, I'm glad. I hope this really blows up in her face!
BBC
Madonna scraps Australian tour plans
http://www.bbc.co.uk...t-arts-18886498
Billboard
Madonna Tour Skipping Australia, Again
http://www.billboard...007605752.story
E! Online
Madonna cancels Australian tour dates
http://au.eonline.co...lian-tour-dates
Rolling Stone
Madonna cancels Australian Concerts
Trek was to be pop star's first trek down under in 20 years
http://www.rollingst...ncerts-20120718
The Hollywood Reporter
Madonna Cancels Australia Tour, Adds France Gig
http://www.hollywood...our-adds-351128
Gigwise
Madonna cancels plans to take MDNA tour to Australia
http://www.gigwise.c...ur-to-australia
MTV (USA)
Madonna scraps Australia tour plans
MDNA Tour won't add any dates Down Under, and 'will end in South America in December as planned,' Live Nation announces
http://www.mtv.com/n...mdna-tour.jhtml
MTV (UK)
Madonna flashes bottom for Brits, snubs Aussies
http://www.mtv.co.uk...don-bottom-live
FemaleFirst.co.uk
Madonna cancels Australian leg of tour
http://www.femalefir...nna-247850.html
Digital Spy
Madonna cancels Australian tour
http://www.digitalsp...alian-tour.html
Euronews
Madonna makes French fans happy, Australians sad
I'm SO glad this is becoming a big entertainment story today internationally. There is much more international press today - and a lot of the coverage is quite scathing. This has become a PR disaster for Madonna on an global scale - there is no way she and Guy can ignore it now, they will have to say something.
Perez Hilton
Madonna will NOT go wild in Australia
http://perezhilton.com/2012-07-18-madonna-cancels-australian-dates-mdna-world-tour
New York Daily News
Madonna cancels Australian tour
Examiner.com
Don't cry for me, Australia: Madonna cancels first Down Under tour in 20 years
Business Standard
Madonna cancels plans to tour Australia
http://www.business-standard.com/generalnews/news/madonna-cancels-plans-to-tour-australia/33992/
CBS News
Madonna cancels Australia shows, adds film clip to Warsaw performance
Ace Showbiz
Madonna Cancels Australian Leg of MDNA Tour Without Explanation
http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00052332.html
New Zealand Herald
Madonna scraps plans to tour Australia
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10820665
411mania.com
Madonna Tour Skipping Australia Again
http://www.411mania.com/music/news/246993/Madonna-Tour-Skipping-Australia-Again.htm
Entertainmentwise
Madonna Hit With Fan Backlash As She Cancels Australian Tour
UPI.com
Madonna cancels Australian concert tour
Yahoo! Music
Madonna cancels Australian concerts
http://music.yahoo.com/news/madonna-cancels-australian-concerts-135043640.html
Splash News
Madonna cancels Australian leg of MDNA Tour
http://www.splashnewsonline.com/2012-07-18/madonna-cancels-australian-leg-of-mdna-tour/
Global Grind
Trouble Down Under? Madonna cancels her Australian tour
http://globalgrind.com/music/madonna-cancels-australian-tour-date-details
MTV Norway
Madonna cancels Australian leg of tour
http://www.mtv.no/news/14372-madonna-cancels-australian-leg-of-tour
India Vision
Madonna cancels Australian tour
http://www.indiavision.com/news/article/entertainment/325887/madonna-cancels-australian-tour/
Idolator
Madonna cancels Australian tour
http://idolator.com/6734542/madonna-cancels-australian-tour
WENN
Madonna cancels plans to tour Australia
http://www.wenn.com/all-news/madonna-cancels-plans-to-tour-australia/
CelebrityCafe.com
Madonna cancels plans to tour Australia with no reason given
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What amazes me is this "trade" approach.
Music is not about trading. It is not about giving something in order to get something else in return.
She puts out a record. You like it, you buy it. You don't like it, you don't buy it. It's very simple. Very natural.
Again I'm sorry that things didn't work out for the Australian fans but some of the comments here are quite irrational and immature.
Madonna has no obligations towards her fans. Not in Australia but certainly not even in Europe or elsewhere.
A grand scale tour - like the ones she puts on - is a lot more complex than people think. There may be issues that people are not aware of and the fact that they are being openly expressed does not mean that they are not valid.
Things didn't work out - once again, yes - and I am sure that she will survive and continue to make music and tour even if Australia turns the back on her. So, threaths are definitely not going to work especially with someone like her.
There are still tickets available for some of the US dates and there definitely are for the South American dates. For those who can afford it, there is plenty of time to organize a trip to America to see her.
Let's look for solutions instead of focusing on problems.
On the other hand there will be a concert next week and it's going to be broadcast all over the world for everybody to see.
She is not immortal, you know. Let's be grateful.
You are not understanding the point. It's not just that she won't come here - it's that she lies and keeps saying she will. This time I really believed it otherwise I would have saved up to go to Europe or South America. Well, it's too late now, I can't afford it at short notice. I was so stupid to believe her this time. At least she could be honest and say "no I am not coming" or even say nothing at all instead of announcing that she is coming here and then cancelling. THAT is the point. if you think broken promises and lies are "mature" and calling her out on that is "immature" then fine, good for you - but I don't.
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has let us down numerous times - that she can still get to #1 here is amazing considering the way she treats her Australian fans!!
Sorry but..?
Sorry but what? She said before the Confessions tour "If I go to Japan, I'll go to Australia - I promise". Well, guess what - she went to Japan. She did not come to Australia. Broken promise. She apologised to Australia on her website afterwards and said she would come next time. Guess what - she missed us again on Sticky and Sweet. She announced she would come this time - it was even included in all the official media releases. Guess what - she's not coming. And many other times time after time in Australian interviews, she has said stupid things like "it's too far away", "your venues can't handle my tonnage", "I have to put my kids into school". Her attitude to Australia is always one of two things:
1. Make up some bullshit excuse that doesn't even makes sense about why she's not coming.
OR
2. Announce she's coming and then cancel.
What have we done to deserve this? Have we sent too many of her albums to #1 and been too loyal?!!!
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I'm putting my 2 cents here, and I won't say anything more cause as a parisian I'm spoiled (went to sdf & go to olympia hall), but I red somewhere that mdna was a total flop in Australia, she 's barely on radio, maybe the fears about not filling stadium are true
It got to #1 here! Yes, it fell quickly afterwards, but didn't it do that EVERYWHERE? Besides, she hasn't been here since 1993 and has let us down numerous times - that she can still get to #1 here is amazing considering the way she treats her Australian fans!!
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And how come there is no announcement about why? No explanation whatsoever? So dismissive and rude. She really does not give a shit about her fans here AT ALL.
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I know! What about some of the reports saying the tour will end in South America as planned....um, no. It was always said to end here motherfuckers!
Exactly - now they are pretending they didn't ever announce that she was coming to Australia. Ending in South America "as planned". MORE lies! Fuckers!!!
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That was only me that said that and I was totally kidding
Sorry, I didn't mean to snap at you - I'm just really upset about this! I really like you and your posts x
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Naturally, this is a PR disaster for Madonna in Australia and New Zealand and is being widely reported by EVERY media outlet here, and so it should be - but in the last few hours it's also starting to be reported by overseas media; this is becoming a PR disaster for her on an international scale. And frankly, I'm glad. I hope this really blows up in her face!
BBC
Madonna scraps Australian tour plans
http://www.bbc.co.uk...t-arts-18886498
Billboard
Madonna Tour Skipping Australia, Again
http://www.billboard...007605752.story
E! Online
Madonna cancels Australian tour dates
http://au.eonline.co...lian-tour-dates
Rolling Stone
Madonna cancels Australian Concerts
Trek was to be pop star's first trek down under in 20 years
http://www.rollingst...ncerts-20120718
The Hollywood Reporter
Madonna Cancels Australia Tour, Adds France Gig
http://www.hollywood...our-adds-351128
Gigwise
Madonna cancels plans to take MDNA tour to Australia
http://www.gigwise.c...ur-to-australia
MTV (USA)
Madonna scraps Australia tour plans
MDNA Tour won't add any dates Down Under, and 'will end in South America in December as planned,' Live Nation announces
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1689914/madonna-australia-mdna-tour.jhtml
MTV (UK)
Madonna flashes bottom for Brits, snubs Aussies
http://www.mtv.co.uk...don-bottom-live
FemaleFirst.co.uk
Madonna cancels Australian leg of tour
http://www.femalefir...nna-247850.html
Digital Spy
Madonna cancels Australian tour
http://www.digitalsp...alian-tour.html
Euronews
Madonna makes French fans happy, Australians sad
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To the people saying this thread should be locked: NO IT SHOULD NOT. If you don't want to read Australian fans venting their anger, go to another thread.
And to the people saying it's because of the "economic situation" in Australia: our economy is very strong, one of the stongest in the world. The Australian dollar is actually worth more than the US dollar - and most currencies. We have one of the fastest growing economies in the world. It's so unfair - in the '80s and '90s people were saying she wasn't touring her because our dollar was too weak. Now our dollar is too strong. We just can't win.
There is NO good reason for LYING to us again and again, and saying she will come here and then pulling the plug. She should just say "I will never, EVER come to Australia - fuck off" if that's how she feels. Stop LYING to us. And you know what, this doesn't just affect Australia - I have friends in Indonesia and New Zealand who were going to come here for the shows. My Indonesian friend was going to go to Europe but didn't because Live Nation, Guy and Ticketmaster confirmed and reconfirmed that M was coming to Australia (Indonesia is next door to Australia, for the geographically challenged). Now she will miss out.
And to make it all worse she announces extra shows in Europe ON THE SAME DAY that she cancels the entire Australian leg of the tour. I just cannot believe how she has treated us. It's almost as if she deliberately tried to be as cruel and callous to her Aussie fans as she could possibly be. I am absolutely stunned and angry as all hell.
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Shit now I'm worried!
Being a Madonna fan is so stressful.Don't worry, it is nothing like that - it's just a simple case of letting down her Australian fans AGAIN after leading them to believe she was coming. Nothing new to see here...
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I'm being led to believe that it's big, but that's all I can get out of anyone. My friend has been good at keeping me posted (hence my unshakeable belief that she was coming here), but this time, he's sworn to absolute secrecy. Again, no consolation and whatever the reason, it won't seem good enough, but for some reason, it's not being disclosed yet.
It's going to be big alright... another BIG load of baloney. Like "my kids will be at school so I can't come to Australia" - remember that one?
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I am VERY. VERY, VERY angry. It is one thing for Madonna to snub Australia on EVERY tour before and since the Girlie Show. That is bad enough. But it is quite another thing to keep announcing that she will tour here and then cancel those plans. For some stupid reason I actually believed her this time. I was thinking of saving up to see her overseas but since the announcement that she would tour Australia was so concrete this time, I believed it (despite initial doubts). The Live Nation press released announced that she would come here. Guy Oseary confirmed it and reconfirmed it. He was adamant. Arthur Fogel confirmed it. So I didn't save up for an expensive overseas trip. Now I will have no way of seeing the tour - I cannot spend thousands and thousands of dollars on return air fares and accommodation to the other side of the world at short notice.
I don't know what M's problem is but ALL other major acts manage to tour Australia - repeatedly. Gaga is has been here at least FIVE times in her relatively short career (including three concert tours) and frankly, she is a bigger act than M these days. Madonna contemporaries such as Prince and MJ (R.I.P.) toured here multiple times. Prince has just finished yet another Australian tour. What is wrong with Madonna? WHY does she keep announcing tours here and then cancelling them? There is no excuse anymore, I am fed up and have had enough. SOOOO angry right now. I am seriously considering throwing all the M music and memorabilia I have in the bin. Not just selling it, but smashing it up and throwing it IN THE BIN so that it's out of circulation for good. I can't tell you how angry I am. I'm seething.
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WHEN are we gonna get the full video? I can't wait any longer!!!
Madonna scraps plan to tour Australia!
in ARCHIVE - Madonna
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No offence but are you blind? She smiled broadly as soon as the tour was mentioned - very quickly, that smile disappeared when Australia/NZ was mentioned. And just because she didn't contradict the interviewer doesn't mean the tour was on - it's not like it would have been the first time she was deceptive about an Australian tour. I am convinced she has some problem with Australia. It dates back even BEFORE the Girlie Show (she skipped Australia repeatedly before TGS, not only afterwards). I don't know how old you all are but I'm old enough to remember when she skipped us on Blonde Ambition and gave the excuse to Molly Meldrum that it was because "Australian radio doesn't support me". This was just after Australia had given her five consecutive weeks at #1 with 'Vogue'. Pathetic. All these years later she is still treating her Australian fans like shit.