dimfanis
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Overall great show.
Open Your heart worked great at the request section. Great surprise!
She trashed Sarah Palin twice. The first time she said "This is my show. Not a Sarah Palin show. She will never be into my show" or something to that extent. And then before the Hung Up guital solo she said this is how it sounds when Sarah Palin talks and she did the solo. I thought it was cool.
The Gypsy section was good but I thought it went on for too long. What was the point of the second gypsy song after the La Isla Bonita mash up? It was awkward. After You Must Love Me she kind of lost the crowd. It was weird indeed. I was expecting a better response to Like A Prayer and Ray Of Light. But her vocals were bad in both songs or maybe the sound wasn't good? Couldn't hear what she was singing.
She got the crowd back with Hung Up.
The first part of Give It 2 Me didn't work. I'm not sure that Jody Broeder (whatever his name is) remix was the right one for the concert. And But then when she stopped and asked the crowd to sing Give it 2 me it worked better. I loved how she left the stage and ended the concert.
It was a real fun show. More concert-y and less theatrical than confessions. She interacted a lot with the audience or at least more that usual. She sung live most of it and danced a lot. My favorite was "Heartbeat". It is one of my favorite songs from HC and she performed quite nicely I should say. It also fit perfectly in that section with her odler hits and She's Not Me.
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well the hype for the athens date is unprecedented, i'd be gutted if HC is not certified platinum in the next few weeks.
Curious as to how the concert will go there. The anticipation is huge and the stadium is TOO big for a Madonna concert. Greeks may be up to a dissapointment .. but let's wait ...
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23 ISL 102 122 141 CAREY*MARIAH E=MC2 4,341 -10 4,798 1,171,931
Can't help it. LOL at Mariah's numbers!
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With sales lower than 2005/2006, a drop was expected. Mimi's album is one of the year's top sellers, too, remember- but, still kinda disappointing numbers for her.
By the end of the year and with the holiday releases Mariah's album will be nowhere near the top sellers ... of course Madonna's will be light years away from that list
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Fak ur posts are bland & mediocre.
move on.
Exactly. This board is for people who are PASSIONATE about Madonna. Fak, it's obvious from your posts you are not one of them.
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So now Madonna has been criticized by Obama--or at least by his official spokesperson.
I wonder how this will play with the pro-Obama fans. I predict that they will try to dismiss it as just "what he had to say," but when you use the words "outrageous" and "offensive" to describe someone, as Obama's camp is doing with respect to Madonna, that constitutes a fairly harsh condemnation, which many Madonna fans would ordinarily not like very much at all.
Who gives a fuck what they said? Madonna made them both publicly talk about her and the tour. She's the winner. This is not about who we vote for or who will win the election.
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she looks so young
she looks plastic and ageless, yet POWERFUL. she always looked 'different" - never a "normal" classic beauty.
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the end of the song, pictures of Beatles star John Lennon, former US vice-president Al Gore, Indian Mahatma Gandhi and McCain's Democrat rival Barack Obama appeared.
How come nobody complained about the "comparison" (provided it is actually a comparison) of Gandhi with Obama, for example? If we follow the same thought process as we did with Hitler/McCain we should also be outraged about this too, I think.
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The big point is that a Madonna-only second single is gonna struggle. And on top of that, a lead Madonna-only single in this day and age more than likely won't do as well as 4M did.
I don't think this is true. People will give a chance to a Madonna-only song and a Madonna-only record as long as it is good and it is promoted properly.
The whole Hard Candy project was marketed before its release as a collaboration record. This is what people were expecting and 4M was big hit. It worked. People liked it. If they have kept releasing the collaboration songs as singles things would have been different. Give It 2 me just confused audiences and radio programmers and Miles Away is definitely not going to help.
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makes you wonder how much more HC would've sold if Madonna had promoted her album to the extent Mariah promoted hers. Coldplay, Lil Wayne and Jonas Brothers are now showing that talk of the music industries demise has been greatly exaggerated, and maybe a few major performances could've made this album a bit more successful than it is
we will never know but in my opinion had she promoted more and had the label capitalized more on the remaining duets with Justin and the duet with Kanye, HC wouldn't be right now in this miserable position ... oh well, I hope the tour does well.
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er, no, give it 2 me is definitely not a flop but neither is a big hit in the uk. in the digital age, most singles that manage to crack the top10 manage to gather a few more weeks within the top20, and give it 2 me is no exception. it's falling down smoothly the way most top10 or even top20 hits do so nowadays. what people fail to notice is that the second single off a new madonna album actually FAILED to enter the itunes top10 even for a day or two. this means the demographic that casually buys madonna's music are caring shit about her recent sound. it was exciting when justin and timbaland's teenage fans were downloading 4minutes, but it's not as exciting anymore as they wouldn't give a flying fuck about actin samewise for the granny's solo follow up. try to look at it however u want, the fact is give it 2 me underperformed in the uk.
madonna has always been an albums artist. her success in the singles chart usually impacts sales of her albums. still, her chart performance since mid 90s has proven she can produce million selling albums without having to deliver a quartet of top5 hits. in the past decade her studio albums usually get close to a million units sold even before a second single marks its presence. the fact that her most recent lead single managed to sell 400k but still failed to push the album even close to platinum staus speaks volumes of her incapability to appeal to either her loyal fanbase or the ordinary pop/rnb audience.
as for your experience in greece, well madge could record a song of her constantly farting and it would still be a huge hit over here. greece is hardly a canon in judging whether a madonna single is successful or not.
You're over analyzing. There is not enough data from the digital era to make this kind of interpretations and the fact that it "failed" to reach the iTunes Top 10 doesn't mean much about the song's overall success. I think it is a big hit in Europe but it's not a massive hit because, simply, as a song it's not all that. IMO, Hard Candy's success or failure (depends how you see it) is a reflection of its quality as a record - not Madonna's popularity and ability to sell records.
Regarding my experience in Greece, maybe you're right. I got too carried away by the fact that the song was everywhere there compared to the monumental flop it is in the US. But it was really EVERYWHERE. At some point I said ENOUGH ALREADY!
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Examples?
You really can't get to grip with how things have changed in the download age, can you
GI2M sold steadlily as an album only download for weeks, hit the top 10 the week it was out on physical, spent two weeks there and has thus far spent six weeks in the top 20; it also sent its parent album back into the top 10. That's a BONAFIDE HIT and has caught on beyond her core fanbase. American Life and Hollywood which both entered at number 2 and then PLUMMETED are fanbase only hits, with the loons buying on a week when there was little competition in terms of new releases. Furthermore, it's also on its way to outselling Sorry, a number 1 hit - COMPRENDE VOUS?
Agreed. I am personally not a big fan of GI2M but it IS a big hit in the UK. It sells steadily for weeks now and this is a big accomplishment.
Also, I returned recently in the US from Greece where I went to various vacation resorts, bars, clubs, etc. and GI2M was definitely the hit of the summer. They played it EVERYWHERE constantly and all the remixes. I'm sure this reflects the song's success in Europe in general. We shouldn't go by sales numbers and peak positions only because simply things have changed.
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Very intelligent post LoveAngelMusicBaby.
You put everything in perspective and I agree with you 100%.
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BR, what you're saying about innovative and trendsetting songs for Madonna is the exception, and you're just trying to point out how ROL & Music was better than HC. Madonna has been struggling on radio since 2003, do you really think if she released something "innovative" as in less radio friendly, she'd get played? Not to mention that "Frozen" & "TPOG" were quite radio friendly and NOT trendsetting, while the title track of ROL didn't even do that well on radio, even if it's the only song that's played on recurrent and it sounded quite innovative as well.
As for the album being fresh 2 years ago, well that's unfair as well. Because if HC is 2006, then what was American Life or COADF? Once again, Madonna's career is NOT based "bringing something new". You even forgot 1994-1995 when Madonna did not bring anything new at all, her only innovative track "Bedtime Story" was a colossal flop and the rest was "play-it-safe" music for radio and her airplay was higher than sales.
There are plenty of reasons why HC can't be as successful as ROL or Music, but not being innovative and trendsetting is not one of them in my opinion. If HC was totally different and left-field, most of you'd be saying "oh it's too different for the Americans, they are not getting it, like they never got Erotica".
Oh and I'd say "Incredible" is quite experimental or HC. I remember when the album came out there was a rumour that Warner considers it as 4th single. Everyone was having a meltdown (I think it happened on another forum) and said the single would go nowhere. And I agree, I can't see it doing better than "Give It 2 Me" anyway, regardless of being experimental or not.
Big Robot said it correctly. When Madonna releases a "good Madonna record" people are more receptive to it and the record does well regardless the response from radio. Or the radio may not support her overwhelmingly but at least they will give her a chance. Or if the record is good the airplay becomes somewhat irrelevant.
Madonna is a commercial artist and nobody expects from her to release something completely experimental. So I define a "good madonna record" as a pop, fresh, innovative record with interesting lyrics and great videos. Hard Candy is not such a record. Pharell's songs were meant to be somewhat experimental but they failed. I don't really get his productions and what he was trying to do. It seems he had no vision and didn't know what to do with Madonna and she also failed to inspire him. Timbaland's songs are good but forgettable songs. They are not big pop events like Say It Right or Apologize or The Way We Are (although 4M came close and I consider it a good pop song). Her working with those producers didn't quite work.
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Why is is that most madonna fans on this board are the most self absorbed people? She has given you 25 years of material, top notch material to go off of. Now you want and expect more? So what if you don't like this album, many do. She can't, won't, and will never please everyone. So get over yourself and lower your unreasonable expectations.
I don't have to get over anything my friend. I was very proud of her even when she flopped with American Life and the singles from COADF in the USA because I didn't care all that much about the chart positions. The music itself was great and she was great too. And I felt she put her heart in those projects.
But HC is not up to the par, it has no substance, she's doing zero promotion for it, give it 2 me has a cheap ass video (it was created by some random kid with a computer) and the tour tickets (since everyone is focusing on the tour it seems) are outrageously expensive and I'm not going. Yes as a Madonna fan for 25 years now I do have high expectations from her and as a professional I can definitely afford tickets for her tour. It's just that I see some serious lack of professionalism on her side that makes me not want to support her - although I have to admit I did my part, I bought all remixes of Give it 2 me separately and called a couple of radio statios to request her silly song.
But It's the first time in 25 years I'm questioning the quality of her output and her work ethics. And that's because I'm loyal as a fan - not becasue I'm self absorbed.
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I'm sure this song is going to work well on tour, especially because people will already know which song are going to be play, and those who don't have the album are going to listen to this song before the concert
Are you guys in denial now? So what if it works well on tour? Anything that would make people jump up and down works well on tour. Is that all an artist like Madonna is interested in?
The song is a major flop in the US and is undeperforming worldwide.
We want more from Madonna. Better songs, better CDs, better videos.
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^exactly. this is embarrassing. can't wait for this GI2M "era" to end and move one.
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At this point if her and Warner were interested they could get some moderate success with BGO, Dance 2Night or Devil and keep the album on that charts until the end of the year. But I don't think they care so that's probably the end of Hard Candy.
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Its nice to see that there is some justice in the world, even tho mariah will get a hot 100 place with her song, at least shes being outsold by something almost as old as her sound
In all fairness Mariah would have done better had she released remixes like Madonna did for Give it 2 me.
Regardless, it's obvious the demand for her song is close to zero.
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BWAHAHAHAHAHA at Mariah. Extensive promotion, strategically released singles, high-budget videos. Still she barely was able to sell more than a million and that mostly due to a big first week. And now the only way is down.
How does it feel now to be overexposed and have broken the Elvis record of the most No 1's? Kind of boomerang, I think.
Not that Madonna is doing any better of course.
Anyway, after all those two bitches have had enough No 1s. Nothing to be sad about.
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I would hardly say solo. Pharrell does have his parts. I love the song but I knew the second I first heard it that it would never work as a single, though I held out some hope at first.
ok let's admit it now. The song has a cute message but Madonna's delivery is rushed, it has zero charm (compared to her other songs with throw away lyrics) and the production is sloppy. It is like a kitchy combination of Steve Miller's Abracadabra and Rick James' Super Freak that Pharell forgot to bring up to date and just doesn't work. We, the hard core fans, love it because it is like Madonna saying she will never stop and she will keep going, blah blah blah, but to anybody else it sounds silly.
Don't blame radio this time.
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she's a loser this time around on many levels. looking forward to the next era.
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Haha... you qouted a 3 months old comment!
I barely mention Mariah nowdays. Tell that to other people ok.
Um .. yes ... who cares about Mariah anyway? Her E=MC2 era is a fiasco and people are tired of her and her records. Let's focus on Madonna.
"Miles Away" USA Airplay/Sales/Billboard Charts Thread
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