Nessie
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27 minutes ago, elijah said:
I liked the fact that he proposed dialogue.
At least!
lets pray that the spanish government doesn't bomb them next week.
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5 hours ago, Je5u5 said:
Reports claim around one million marched today in Barcelona against the separation of Catalonia from Spain.
I wonder how many of them are actually Catalan.
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12 hours ago, elijah said:
Karbatal, this discussion has been really interesting for me. Hopefully you will continue keeping us informed, because this has been the news for me lately. I so hope both parties find a solution and Catalonia stays within Spain.
I personally feel like this whole situation could have been sponsored by states like Russia who would like to see EU weaker and dealing with internal problems instead of concentrating on expanding on the Western Balkans for example. Or playing a more prominent role on the international scene or concentrating on reforming itself deeply, like Macron has proposed. I see it as another Brexit really that weakens Spain and EU and I hope Catalonians don't fall for that trap.
Omg lets blame Putin for everything
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13 minutes ago, MeakMaker said:
Was talking about this part of Spain all of a sudden wanting independence.
That's the point. They have been seeking independence for ages.This is not something all of sudden new, its a process of decades exploding right now.
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1 minute ago, sotos8 said:
They say that only 50 % voted etc .Didn't you watch many people that were dragged out of the voting ballots and the ballot boxes that were stolen by the police forces? and what about the people that were terrified to go and vote ? It felt like this referendum happened in some communist country of the late 80s .If this is called democracy then something very rotten is happening in the so called EUROPEAN UNION lol
Good point. I would be afraid to vote aswell with such a brute police dragging elderly people with blood on their faces and fingers crushed.
Anyway, even with so much violence a lot people indeed voted the yes option. The government now have to deal with the possibility of a full blown rebellion as catalans are already planning a general strike in protest.
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6 hours ago, runa said:
No matter if you're for or against that referendum, you must let people decide for their destiny.
That's great. But why the international community decided that this wasn't applicable to Crimeans in 2014 when they wanted to split from Ukraine?
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North Korea's foreign minister: Trump has declared war on our country
North Korea has threatened to shoot down US bombers in international airspace, claiming that, with a weekend tweet, Donald Trump had declared war.
The North Korean foreign minister Ri Yong-ho said: “The whole world should clearly remember it was the US who first declared war on our country.” He referred in particular to Trump’s tweet on Sunday that warned that the regime’s leaders “won’t be around much longer”.
In his first address to the UN last Tuesday, Trump had also warned that if the US and its allies were attacked, he would “totally destroy” North Korea. Ri said the UN and the international community had hoped that the war of words between the two countries would not turn into “real action”.
“However, last weekend Trump claimed that our leadership won’t be around much longer, and hence at last he declared war on our country,” Ri said, speaking to journalists through an interpreter outside the UN general assembly in New York. “Given the fact that this came from someone who holds the seat of the US presidency, this is clearly a declaration of war.”
Ri added: “Since the United States declared war on our country, we will have every right to make counter-measures, including the right to shoot down United States strategic bombers even when they are not yet inside the airspace border of our country.”
“The question of who won’t be around much longer will be answered then,” the foreign minister said.
Ri’s threat came after a week in which tensions between the US and North Korea escalated rapidly, with an exchange of insults between Trump and Kim Jong-un, the North Korean dictator, and culminating in Trump’s Sunday tweet and a sortie by US B-1B heavy bombers off the North Korean coast, for the first time flying north of the 38th parallel, that has separated North and South Korea since the 1950-53 war.
North Korea claims its national airspace extends up to 50 miles off its coast, while the US recognizing only the international norm of 12 nautical miles.
This is not the first time the Pyongyang regime has accused the US of declaring war, and it has previously shot down US aircraft, a navy surveillance plane in 1969, killing 31 servicemen and an army helicopter in 1994, killing a pilot.
However, experts and officials say the risks of all out war are now substantially greater. North Korea, officially known as the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (DPRK), has developed and tested a nuclear warhead, probably a hydrogen bomb, and long range missiles, while the leaders of both countries have made the confrontation between their two countries, a personal test of strength.
Vipin Narang, an expert on the Korean peninsula showdown at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology said that the Pyongyang regime “really hates the B-1B flights. They’re clearly making the regime nervous about a surprise attack. This is how war by miscalculation starts.”
“Yesterday’s flight went further north than any this century, though still in international airspace east of DPRK,” Narang said. “But Kim seems to be worried, and reasonably so, that such a flight is exactly how a surprise decapitation or counterforce strike could start. So what we intend as a ‘show of strength’ could easily be mistaken as a prelude to a surprise attack, forcing Kim to go preemptively.”
He said: “It is unclear to me what the more aggressive shows of strength achieve – we can deter DPRK and reassure our allies in a multitude of other ways that are less risky and don’t throw poison ivy all over Kim’s itchy finger trigger.”
The UN secretary general, António Guterres, warned that heated rhetoric could only increases the risk of confrontation.
“Fiery talk can lead to fatal misunderstandings,” UN spokesman Stéphane Dujarric told reporters. “The only solution for this is a political solution.”
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15 hours ago, horn said:
KJU is creating earthquakes.
I hope the mother earth will teach him a lesson for messing with mother nature.
I secretly wish there will be magnitude 15 earthquake when he's carrying out the nuclear test and destroy the entire Pyongyang, drag him and his brainwashed ppl down to hell.
Mother nature didnt seem to care with the US and the USSR when they were doing thousands of nuclear tests every year.
I definitely hope for mother nature to teach North Korea a lesson but before anyone in this planet the US should be the first in line to deal with mother nature for all the immeasurable suffering and destruction they have caused in the world for so many decades.
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The nazis are on the rise and AFD is just a neo-nazi group with a fancy name slaped on it. Too bad that so many people around the world are falling (again) for their lies. 2020/2030 is shaping up to be a far-right decade. Scary times ahead.
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1 hour ago, LSD said:
You're FIRED !
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US asks Latin American countries to 'break all ties with N. Korea'
US Vice President Mike Pence has asked Chile, Peru, Mexico and Brazil to break diplomatic and other ties with North Korea, as part of a campaign to pressure Pyongyang into giving up missiles and nuclear weapons.“It’s imperative that the regime in Pyongyang understand that all options are on the table,” Pence said on Wednesday in Santiago, in a joint press conference with Chilean president Michelle Bachelet.
“Our hope is that Chile, Brazil, Mexico and Peru will join us in breaking all ties with North Korea,” he said.
Latin American countries severing diplomatic ties with North Korea will “facilitate a peaceful outcome” and show Pyongyang that “there is a cost” for defying the will of the international community, Pence said.
The US “will simply not permit a rogue regime in North Korea to possess nuclear weapons that can reach our country” and threaten Americans, Pence said.
Washington’s objective is a nuclear-free Korean peninsula, Pence added. “We want the regime in Pyongyang to permanently abandon its nuclear and missile ambitions.”
Chile’s ambassador to China, who also represents the country in North Korea, has not presented credentials to the government of Kim Jong-un for the past four years, Pence said, adding that he asked Bachelet to make that break official.
Meanwhile, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov warned that the possibilities of further economic pressure on North Korea have been practically exhausted.
“We can’t support the ideas that some of our partners keep putting forward, which are intended to literally suffocate North Korea,” Russia’s chief diplomat told RIA Novosti, noting that the rhetoric from both Washington and Pyongyang concerning the situation on the Korean peninsula has toned down in recent days.
The US vice-president has been on a Latin American tour this week, visiting Mexico, Brazil, Peru and Colombia to drum up support for a blockade of Venezuela. The US has accused the government in Caracas of threatening democracy by holding elections for a constitutional assembly.
Pence also praised Chile as a “shining example” of a country that “chose economic freedom decades ago” and now is a “vibrant democracy” inspiring other Latin American countries.
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'There's not much we can do!' South Korea BEGS Trump not to go to WAR with North Korea
THE SOUTH Korean president has urged the United States not to go to war with Pyongyang and called on the North to bring an end to its threatening behaviour.
Moon Jae-in, who has only been in office since May, said: "There must be no more war on the Korean Peninsula. Whatever ups and downs we face, the North Korean nuclear situation must be resolved peacefully.
"I am certain the United States will respond to the current situation calmly and responsibly in a stance that is equal to ours."
With Donald Trump and Kim Jong-un trading insults and threats over the past few days, the world is watching as war appears an increasingly likely prospect.
Trump has said North Korea will be met with “fire and fury like the world has never seen” if the hermit state continues to threaten the US, while Pyongyang claimed to be preparing a plan to strike the US territory of Guam later this month.
Moon Chung-in, a special adviser to the South Korean president, said the North will not negotiate with Seoul and are pushing for talks the US, who they see as more influential.
He said: "Dialogue is urgently needed to stop the North from developing its weapons programmes further.
"But North Korea sees the South as powerless and won't negotiate with us. They want to have direct talks with the United States.”
National security adviser Lee Su-hoon added that the South is helpless while North Korea and the US continue to trade insults.
He said: ”Moon [Jae-in] has been telling Trump that a military option should never be considered, but there is not much we can do when two strong leaders [of North Korea and the United States] are clashing.
"But no one wants a catastrophic end. Down the road, I expect there will be a compromise and dialogue."
Last week, South Korea’s top military commanders were ordered to prepare for conflict as North Korea’s threat of nuclear war continues to intensify.
The North’s neighbours are growing increasingly concerned about the imminent prospect of war and South Korea’s president, Moon Jae-in, has called on his top commanders to ready the troops.
He said South Korea must become more self-reliant as it faces “the urgent task of securing defence capabilities to counter North Korea's nuclear and missile provocations”.
“The goal of defence reform is to build a winning military, a highly confident military,” he said at a meeting with six new military commanders.
“Most of all, it is important to secure capabilities that will ensure our victory in modern warfare and prepare us against North Korea's developing nuclear arms and missiles.”
“The goal of defence reform is to build a winning military, a highly confident military,” he said at a meeting with six new military commanders.
“Most of all, it is important to secure capabilities that will ensure our victory in modern warfare and prepare us against North Korea's developing nuclear arms and missiles.”
There are also fears in Seoul that North Korea’s war threats could affect the financial market.
Finance Minister Kim Dong-yeon said: "The impact of (North Korean threats) on the financial and foreign exchange market is now expanding to the global level. A small shock will highly likely intensify market volatility.
"The government will not let its guard down and maintain a watertight posture with strengthened risk management."
Kim said the South Korean government will closely look into financial data, such as foreign reserves, short-term external debts and foreign exchange liquidity in financial institutions, in order to ease any possible financial concerns.
He added: ”The government will strengthen around-the-clock monitoring of the market and take immediate action in accordance with its established contingency plan.”
Meanwhile, the US is preparing military options for a possible war with North Korea amid fears new sanctions against the hermit state will fail to rein in the hermit state's missile threats.
US Joint Chiefs of Staff Joseph Dunford said that pursuing diplomacy and economic sanctions remain the US's top priority, but the unpredictable nature of North Korea means military options must be ready for the potential outbreak of war.
Dunford made the comments during a discussion with South Korean president Moon Jae-in during a meeting to discuss the recent soaring tensions between Pyongyang and Washington.
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With these latest news i'm afraid that war now is a very real option, probably the only option left for North Korea.
Without China as their lifesupport they simply have no other choice, otherwise how could this failed state could remain afloat? It basically lost everything to sanctions, China was their only hope left to keep their dicatorship in place, now there is not a single nation in the world behind them anymore.
North Korea has been officially cut out of the world and this is the recipe for disaster.
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Pyongyang’s main economic lifeline falls as China bans key imports from N. Korea
China has announced a full ban on imports of coal, iron, and seafood, among other goods from North Korea, thus cutting key export revenues for Pyongyang.Starting Tuesday, no more exports of North Korean coal, iron, iron ore, lead, lead ore and seafood will be accepted to the country, the Chinese Ministry of Commerce announced on Monday. Goods that have already reached Chinese ports and customs should be released not later than September 5.
However, the measures are not applied to exports of coal through North Korea’s Rason port by a third party, if it has UN approval and can prove that the goods do not originate from North Korea.
The announcement indicates Beijing’s full implementation of the latest UN Security Council (UNSC) resolution against North Korea, which targets key revenue sources of the communist state, depriving it of $1 billion annual foreign revenue. The restrictive measures were unanimously approved by all 15 members of the UNSC in response to North Korea’s latest missile tests, which it claims were of intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs).
China is considered North Korea’s main economic lifeline, and the success of the latest round of sanctions depends to a large degree on Beijing. Following the UN vote in favor of punitive measures against Pyongyang on August 5, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi acknowledged that the UN resolution would affect the country’s economic interests, but promised that China is prepared “to pay most of the price” for it.
Tensions between the US – which initiated the latest UN resolution – and North Korea have been mounting recently with increasingly belligerent threats from both sides.
Meanwhile, Pyongyang recalled some heads of its foreign missions in China, Russia, and the UN back home to participate in a special diplomatic meeting on Monday, according to South Korean news agency Yonhap. The number of ambassadors called in to participate in the meeting is unclear.
The meeting may be a regular gathering of North Korean diplomats, according to Ministry of Unification spokesman Baik Tae-hyun, as cited by Yonhap.
The meeting may have been called “to deal with the difficult international circumstance the country is currently handling,” Yonhap reports.
https://www.rt.com/news/399559-china-bans-imports-north-korea/
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49 minutes ago, Jazzy Jan said:
How then do you explain the likes of Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot etc gaining power and all other dictators and fascists from past eras ? Social media can also be used for good to expose these leaders and their supporters.
Hitler used the dire situation of Germany in the 20's pos-WWI to pose as a savior of the german people and Stalin gained power by brute force riding from a revolutionary punch. The extremism of left and right was a direct side effect of WWI and it spreaded across many european nations at that time. Sometimes people seems to forget how truly life changing that war was and we still feel effects even today. Now with social media anyone can spread extremism without necessarily be grounded on real facts, you simply don't need a world war anymore to make society feels "threatened", you can just invent it and stupid people will dig it up and repeat to more stupid people till whatever extreme idea becomes acceptable.
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Social media spread that message like wild fire because its direct and very in your face, unlike "subliminal" traditional media. The message is there for anyone to see and spread, much quicker and effective than any traditional media ever been. Ultimately its social media that enables politicians like Trump and Le Pen gain ground and validates these ideologies once they are officialy in power.
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Social Media is the real culprit of this worldwide movement. Without any responsability it gave a voice to the far-right ideology that used to be restricted by not having access to conventional media platfforms. I blame Mark Zuckerberg for all of this mess! He should be acountable for profiting on human insecurities by opening the pandora box without any regulation whatsoever! Free speech my ass! The same rule of law that restrict open racism, homophobic and xenophobic in real life should be applied to the internet, specially the toxic facebook!
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I think China and the US should be more cautions with North Korea intentions.
It seems that North Korea is tricking China to a war with the US. Let me explain: North Korea said their plan is to launch some missiles at Guam coast but not actually strike Guam island, therefore it wouldn't be clear if this could be classified as a direct attack, but the US would immediately react launching an offensive against North Korea. That could be considered by China as a first strike of the US against North Korea and in that case China would not be neutral as it said already that would prevent any first strike of the US. The situation could put the US in direct conflict with China and that would be the only option for North Korea to have some levarage in this war.
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There is something deeply wrong with the system if a president has to start a war in order to become more presidential in the eyes of the political establishment.
He will not live long anyway and at this point in life he just don't care provoking a little war for self publicity. Trump and the entire US establishment simply don't understand the global consequences of their actions.
What frights the most is that no one in this world can stop the US, there is no balance of powers anymore, they can simply bomb you tomorrow if they feel like it.
Just like the Roman Empire, it will eventually collapse from within if it doesn't destroy the world with it.
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Declare war?
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Only a miracle can save us from this Tories regime now.
WW 3 might happen next month so maybe that could stop the conservatives to run this country and turn it into a joke as if things are not already bad enough.
How clever of them to push for an election where clearly they have no competition. The English should wake up and smell the coffee but I doubt it... after Brexit and Trump peeps have become so unpredictable with their voting choice and will end up voting for her and her party as she's the only politician who hasn't been completely trashed by the media.
These governments are truly deplorable. No wonder we are facing world conflicts. All they care about is themselves and save their own skin. They make me sick
Tory government would launch preemptive nuclear strike, defense secretary says
Prime Minister Theresa May would be prepared to launch a preemptive nuclear strike against any enemies, even if Britain was not under attack, Defence Secretary Michael Fallon has claimed.
“In the most extreme circumstances we have made it very clear that you can’t rule out the use of nuclear weapons as a first strike,” Fallon told the BBC’s Today program.
When asked in what circumstances, he replied: “They are better not specified or described, which would only give comfort to our enemies and make the deterrent less credible.
“The whole point about the deterrent is that you have got to leave uncertainty in the mind of anyone who might be thinking of using weapons against this country.”
The prime minister’s official spokesperson later added there was “no reason to disagree with what the defense secretary said.”
Trident’s four submarines operate a continuous at-sea nuclear deterrent. Last year, a vote in the House of Commons saw MPs vote for Trident’s renewal, which is expected to cost up to £225 billion (about US$285 billion) over its service lifetime.
Fallon’s comments come as the Tories continued to exploit Labour divisions on the retention of the Trident deterrent, to warn of the “very dangerous chaos” if Jeremy Corbyn becomes prime minister.
On Sunday, the Labour leader said he would never authorize the use of nuclear weapons and suggested Trident renewal might not be in Labour’s election manifesto – only to be corrected within hours by party colleagues.
Speaking to the BBC, Fallon said voters tempted by Labour had been left “completely unsure as to what would actually happen to our nuclear deterrent.”
“I think you saw Jeremy Corbyn yesterday questioning strikes against terrorists, refusing to back the nuclear deterrent, he’s been querying our NATO deployment and he seems to have fallen out with his own party over nuclear deterrent.
“That’s chaos, but it’s very dangerous chaos that would put the security of our country at risk.”
Corbyn, a long-standing proponent of total nuclear disarmament, believes a Trident renewal is expensive, unsafe, ill-suited for contemporary warfare and in violation of international commitments.
Fallon also insisted that critics of Trident, including senior military figures who have ridiculed the idea that it is an effective deterrent, were “absolutely wrong.”
“It deters day and night every single day of every single year,” he said.
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The fact Le Pen got so much support is terrifying and alarming. We really are in the middle of a major right wing xenophobic wave around the world and it has not subsided enough. Have to hope that she is defeated in the next round. An extremely crucial election.
It will not take long before all those far-right extremists clash with eachother. The same would happen with far-left leaders though. History proves that everytime extremists take power they end up in conflict with eachother, kind of that mentality my dick is bigger than yours.
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That's not LGBT people, it's just people. It doesn't even make sense. Some criticize these folks for voting FN by saying they are traitors to gay rights, others say they're selfish for voting for FN because they know Le Pen won't affect gay rights. Well which is it? There is diversity of thought in the would-be LGBT community, not everyone is on the left (or should be). That's nothing new. Being gay is not a cult.
Absolutely!
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Melania Trump wins damages from Daily Mail over 'escort' allegation
The UK's Daily Mail newspaper has agreed to pay damages and costs to the first lady of the United States over an article about her modelling career.
The newspaper had reported allegations that Melania Trump once worked as an escort, but later retracted the claims.
The story was published during the US election campaign last year.
Mrs Trump accepted damages and an apology from the newspaper at London's High Court.
The article was published by the Daily Mail newspaper, and subsequently the paper's digital operation Mail Online.
In a statement, Mrs Trump's lawyer said that she is "very pleased" and "will remain vigilant to protect her good name and reputation from those who make false and defamatory statements about her".
Mrs Trump filed a lawsuit against the Daily Mail in the UK, and filed against Mail Online in the US.
The payout settles the case both in New York and the UK, despite London's High Court having no jurisdiction in the US.
The US suit, filed last year, sought damages of $150m (£120m). The amount accepted by Mrs Trump in London was not disclosed in court.
However, reports suggest the payout was closer to $3m, including legal costs and damages.
In its apology, the Daily Mail acknowledged it had published "allegations that she provided services beyond simply modelling".
The article also claimed that Mr and Mrs Trump may have met three years before they actually did, and later "staged" their first meeting.
"We accept that these allegations about Mrs Trump are not true," the newspaper said.
A lawyer for Mrs Trump told the London court the allegations "strike at the heart of the claimant's personal integrity and dignity".
Her lawyer said the double-page spread in August last year, titled "Racy photos and troubling questions about his wife's past that could derail Trump", featured an old nude photo of Mrs Trump from her modelling career.
"Readers of the newspaper that day could not fail to miss the article," he said.
Spain...destroying themselves from the inside
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I hope so! The last thing Europe needs is another civil war! By the look of it the spanish government is furious with this separatist movement and the catalans are not willing to back down...