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  1. I listened a lot in the beginning, after the release. Now not so much. I thought about it the other day and I have no clear answer as to why. It might be that the sound of parts of this album is sonically quite "messy". I understand that that is what she aimed for, but I'm not so fond of it. Although I really like the fact that she felt inspired and creative on this album. I doesn't really sound like anything else out there.

    But I think many of the critics were right when they made clear that people will be divided over this album. On the other hand that's what artists do, they follow their path. I think that's where she is right now.

    I am however, as someone else pointed out, a little disappointed in the marketing of the album. She hasn't been very visible in the media and when she has been she's seemed very nervous and I really don't understand why. 

  2. 1 minute ago, bardo said:

    maybe it's not what you meant, but you literally just said she doesn't invest as much energy and time in her career anymore. 

    Performance wise. Musically and when it comes to the album it's pretty clear that she's been very invested in this project.  

  3. 1 hour ago, bardo said:

    she's invested more time and energy into this album and its promotion than any other project in recent memory. she's clearly putting a lot into the performances as well. she's always been a multi-tasker and juggled many things. the bottom line is that this woman is 60 years old. she has less mental and physical energy than she used to -- yet she still does more on stage than artists half her age. 

    No one is saying she hasn't invested energy or effort into this era, stop playing that card. 

  4. 4 minutes ago, cocolattee said:

    I know that a lot of people will jump on me for saying this but watching the show, although I enjoy it as a whole and I love that she brought back AL, I can't help but think how stiff and wooden she has become on stage. After the MDNA tour her performances have changed quite drastically, she moves very little and even the little she does, she seems uncomfortable and almost afraid to move. Obviously her age is a factor but even though she doesn't train as hard as she used to, she's still a very active person (she even rides horses) so it surprises me to see how little she does on stage. Even that "I dont search I find" video she posted on Instagram a few days ago shows she still has the moves!! So why not show more on stage??

    The record is easily one of her best but her live performances this era have been very underwhelming in my opinion...

    I honestly think that she doesn't invest as much time in her career as Madonna as she has done in the past. I'm sure music wise this record has consumed a lot of time for her. But considered all the other stuff that goes into preparing for performances, tours, interviews etc etc I just don't think she invests all of that energy and time anymore. Which is not strange at all considering she has such a large family (I mean 6 children!) these days which must drain you both physically and emotionally. 

    The amount of training that goes into being as fit as she's been and being able to dance and sing as she has that takes the time of a high level athlete. Add to that everything musically, writing, singing, producing. Then just keeping your empire going with her legacy, marketing, the MDNA skin care, investing in other financial products, real estate properties that need care, all of her staff that she bosses etc etc etc.

     

  5. 10 minutes ago, Monsieur X said:

    1. She's 60
    2. She's given birth to two children
    3. She's been touring non-stop for the last 10+ years on a particular hectic and heavy schedule
    4. She's human

     

    Vocal damage is inevitable. 

    Yes, she's 60. And that may actually be a large factor. Aging voices do need extra care and training.

    But she gave birth the last time in 2000. That's 19 years ago and she's been touring and singing the most in her career during those years. Also her voice was gorgeous during the Rebel heart tour. And she was turning 57 back then. Which means also voices older than 55 can perform very well.

    What do you mean 10+ years? She's def been on many tours the past 10 years but they have been relatively short in time compared to other artists and bands of her caliber. Also it was three years ago she last was on tour.
     

  6. But what happened to her wonderful voice? It's clear something is not a 100 %. It was def better than Eurovision but in American life you could clearly hear her struggle. Also in the other songs she doesn't let out the notes as much as she used to do. I def do not want to bring negativity but I find it interesting to discuss.

  7. 5 minutes ago, Ai Papi Si. said:

    Yes, definitely American. I’m sure Europe has an equivalent. 

    Not really. The British magazines, NME, Q, Mojo, Uncut etc. used to be leaders in providing music journalism to Europe. But today cultural media in Europe is more connected to each country. And I don't think (speculating of course) that the younger generations reads that much music reviews to be honest. It used to be the way to discover new music.

  8. 2 minutes ago, Ai Papi Si. said:

    The easiest way to describe Pitchfork is that it's a pretentious, self-serving hipster music blog that somehow caught on and became one of the more prestigious outlets for album reviews. They've become important enough to launch careers. The ego of that website and the people on it is something to behold. They get off on being hailed as the most discerning eyes in music.

    Most intelligent people see right through them. 

    Ok, thanks. But it must be an american thing? I live in Sweden and I don't know anyone reading them.

  9. 10 minutes ago, rocknrolla said:

    If pitchfork won't review, is she officially irrelevant 😆

    Please tell me more about this Pitchfork outlet. I know they exist, that they review music and that people on this forum have a relationship with Pf that ranges from anger to fear. I have never read Pitchfork, why are they so important? Are they a powerful voice in music journalism? Please educate me.

  10. I find the reaction a bit hard. I can def understand that she wanted more out of the article if it was so that Madonna gave her a lot of access to her life, and is disappointed about that. But the article is in no way part of a patriarichal conspiracy as M somehow hints at. It's mostly praise, and a bit of this "woke" thing. I think it somehow shows that Madonna used to be able to control media much more than she does today. Media treats her differently today.

    I hope not, but I just feel that this might blow back on her. 

    This era has really started messy, I hope she comes back into the saddle.

  11. 1 minute ago, JWAD said:

    I watched the Honest Vocal Coach and her opinion as she is good but that video she posted was distorted to fuck.bit sounded like a low res Limewire mp3! Man I know Madonna was pitchy but that sounded like she was underwater as well.

    She urgently needs a new team behind her. They need to say: No Madonna you cannot walk down stairs and sing on your own on a song which usually has two female back singers. No JPG you cannot let her wear a clunky, unflattering mess of a dress, it's not suitable for this performance. No to Megan with that shit show of choreography. No to that shit interlude which made no sense and that embarrassing blowing fire. No to Quavo who has the personality of a dead fly. Yes to the political message. Yes to the hair. Yes to the makeup. Yes to the attitude. Yes to the flags. Yes to Like A Prayer but NO to the arrangement. 

    I really liked the performance but I would have preferred that she has mimed instead. It's not like we got much close-ups of her anyway. What's a missed opportunity the whole thing was. But she does not deserve the hatred in the media. I bet her team showed her the YouTube version. 

    Preach. We need a revolution of teams!

  12. 19 minutes ago, samosamosamo said:

    We all know she will be fine! I still remember the night she performed  the power of goodbye for a MTV thing in Italy. That was the moment she was training her voice and it was really a bad performance. Maybe one thing I'm starting  to dislike is the overly staged kitch design she is using. Her best recent performances to me are the Rebel heart version of like a virgin and the tv performance of BIM. less theatrics more madonna. Even Medellin was great because of the live energy not the holograms or the kitch scenography. Basically less is more sometimes even with madonna 

    I think it's hard to compare these. Firstly, when she sang Power of goodbye she was having an ignited career and a truly amazing album behind her. Everybody loved her. Media included. Secondly, when she sang POG social media didn't exist. Only us fans remember this performance. I mean how the ESC performance has spread through almost all big and small media outlets. It's just crazy. Today at work everybody talked about her performance (and it's not a place full of gays). Friends I talked to after the performance talked about it and FB and IG has been full of posts regarding this.

    I don't want to be a Debbie Downer, and believe me, I'm one of the first persons to defend Madonna, but I think some kind of damage control is needed here. Her reputation as a live artist has been affected by this. Which is not good considering one of her main form of expression as an artist today (as it is for most artists today) is through live performances.

  13. 4 minutes ago, CzarnaWisnia said:

    It's fine if M wants to be political in her performances, that's nothing new, however I never liked a Madonna performance because it was political but in spite of it. Execution is paramount. Aesthetics are paramount. Artists are not activists. They can be, but it's usually artists who have actually lived experiences that justify their activism. When a highly successful multimillionaire American artist blunders into an old and complicated international war situation overseas with simplistic "messages" like "world peace please!" and "wake up, idiots", it can be seen as ridiculous. I don't see the point she was trying to make. War is bad? Duh.

    I agree with some criticisms made here about the EV performance: vocal fatigue, bad song choice with Future (a mood killer). But the visual aspects were fine, I didn't see a lack of energy, her costume was fantastic, the lighting effects and projections were impressive, the choreo was on, she looked flawless, etc. (Quavo is a mess, should have been dumped after that comatose Plantain Blasé tripe.) The Dark Ballet interlude was simply amazing. It felt otherwordly. There's a richness in tone there that would have contributed better to her political "messaging". It seemed more theatrical than anything else there. She seemed to be stepping into something new, and to light up at that moment (after drudging through LAP).

    Oh well...

    I agree with this. And usually a Madonna performance is stellar. And yesterday it wasn't. There aren't any room for mistakes when you are a mega super star and have 10 min in a show to do two songs for 200 million viewers. The reactions are proof of that. Of course this performance doesn't take away her legacy or her status, it was just a little unfortunate. 

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