runa Posted June 17 Posted June 17 4 hours ago, SOON said: @Genevieve Vavance @runa love him - I keep seeing him on Instagram. I love both in fact. Non traditional promo, Quote
Skin Posted June 17 Posted June 17 3 hours ago, Je5u5 said: Olivia Rodrigo's new album is expected to surpass 450K this week and has broken the record for biggest 24h debut in Spotify. Even on its third week it will be competition. Sienna Spiro is releasing on the same date and she has tied the presale of her concert tickets that are out this month with codes you get by preordering the vinyl or CD. #1 is not an obvious outcome. I have no clue what a Sienna Spiro is. Quote
luizotaviobarros Posted June 17 Posted June 17 2 hours ago, smirnoff_ice said: The fact that we're discussing her chances against artists who are decades younger is, in itself, a sign of how extraordinary her career has been. Quote
AlanLongoria Posted June 17 Posted June 17 26 minutes ago, Skin said: I have no clue what a Sienna Spiro is. Upcoming English singer, very Amy Winehouse meets Lilly Allen kind of girl... very popular in the UK but not quite in the US, she's definitely a threat. Quote
metalissimo Posted June 17 Posted June 17 (edited) 3 hours ago, smirnoff_ice said: I agree - #1 is defo not in the bag. I'd love her to have the US and UK #1s with the album and that would be an amazing achievement. But if she narrowly misses because she's competing against younger artists at the height of their commercial powers, that's not really a reflection on her legacy. Her place in pop history was established long ago. If someone had told us in 1985 that Madonna would still be releasing major albums and competing on charts in 2026, most of us would have considered that almost impossible. The fact that we're discussing her chances against artists who are decades younger is, in itself, a sign of how extraordinary her career has been. In the US the chance is still bigger. Olivia album's 4th week performance will not be so huge. I suspect it will be around 90-100k equivalent album units. CII will definitely have at least 100k equivalent album units. I predict it will be around 105-120k equivalent album units. That's why we'll have to stream CII a lot everyday when it comes out on July 3. Edited June 17 by metalissimo info Quote
Mozo1 Posted June 17 Posted June 17 1 hour ago, Skin said: I have no clue what a Sienna Spiro is. I think it's a dessert. Quote
DeMo Posted June 17 Posted June 17 2 hours ago, AlanLongoria said: Upcoming English singer, very Amy Winehouse meets Lilly Allen kind of girl... very popular in the UK but not quite in the US, she's definitely a threat. So a Lola Young clone? Quote
Confessit II Posted June 17 Posted June 17 1 minute ago, SOON said: This is amazing! So my Q is, why did they hire & pay for a body double? What else could the body double possibly be required for other than for the shots of Madonna flying through the air on a wire? Quote
DreamTheater Posted June 17 Posted June 17 8 minutes ago, Confessit II said: What else could the body double possibly be required for other than for the shots of Madonna flying through the air on a wire? Roll her into a carpet? Quote
Confessit II Posted June 17 Posted June 17 1 minute ago, DreamTheater said: Roll her into a carpet? I’m pretty sure Madonna would be prepared to do that herself? But it’s a possibility! I personally still think the body double was hired in for the wire shots. Quote
Confessit II Posted June 17 Posted June 17 22 hours ago, *mlvc* said: 22 hours ago, runa said: lol There’s been an increase in streams since the video arrived. #JustSaying Quote
dollhouse Posted June 17 Posted June 17 13 minutes ago, Confessit II said: I’m pretty sure Madonna would be prepared to do that herself? But it’s a possibility! I personally still think the body double was hired in for the wire shots. no double did all the boring running around backshots and camera on head when M was unavailable Quote
dollhouse Posted June 17 Posted June 17 3 hours ago, metalissimo said: In the US the chance is still bigger. Olivia album's 4th week performance will not be so huge. I suspect it will be around 90-100k equivalent album units. CII will definitely have at least 100k equivalent album units. I predict it will be around 105-120k equivalent album units. That's why we'll have to stream CII a lot everyday when it comes out on July 3. That would be first time in 20 years her album sells more than last one, MX was 7 years ago and her fans are older too we shall see but 100k is a lot! Quote
DreamTheater Posted June 17 Posted June 17 2 minutes ago, dollhouse said: That would be first time in 20 years her album sells more than last one, MX was 7 years ago and her fans are older too we shall see but 100k is a lot! Exactly. To have a shot at number 1, both in the UK and the US, she needs to match or even exceed the physical sales of her previous release. And that would be a tremendous achievement. Quote
Confessit II Posted June 17 Posted June 17 10 minutes ago, dollhouse said: no double did all the boring running around backshots and camera on head when M was unavailable Oh I see! Makes sense the double did the boring stuff allowing Madonna to do the interesting stuff. 3 minutes ago, DreamTheater said: Exactly. To have a shot at number 1, both in the UK and the US, she needs to match or even exceed the physical sales of her previous release. And that would be a tremendous achievement. True. MX had the added benefit of redemption codes for the MX tour in America to boost it. But CII had tons of variants that MX didn’t have, so that I think will plug the gap the tour tie in deal achieved. Quote
runa Posted June 17 Posted June 17 22 minutes ago, Confessit II said: There’s been an increase in streams since the video arrived. #JustSaying Quote
dollhouse Posted June 17 Posted June 17 4 minutes ago, Confessit II said: Oh I see! Makes sense the double did the boring stuff allowing Madonna to do the interesting stuff. True. MX had the added benefit of redemption codes for the MX tour in America to boost it. But CII had tons of variants that MX didn’t have, so that I think will plug the gap the tour tie in deal achieved. yep but we dont know how many variants are sold, none of them are sold out in USA, not even the sought after BILT one, i dont know about the spotify milky white thou Quote
Confessit II Posted June 17 Posted June 17 1 minute ago, runa said: Call me Mystic Zee 1 minute ago, dollhouse said: yep but we dont know how many variants are sold, none of them are sold out in USA, not even the sought after BILT one We don’t know the figures but we know there must be significant healthy sales of the variants thus far. All we can do is keep our fingers crossed. Quote
dollhouse Posted June 17 Posted June 17 1 minute ago, Confessit II said: Call me Mystic Zee We don’t know the figures but we know there must be significant healthy sales of the variants thus far. All we can do is keep our fingers crossed. Lets take a moment and pray for good sales Quote
Skin Posted June 17 Posted June 17 I personally think you are all low balling the opening numbers of this album. We will see... Quote
Beastialg Posted June 17 Posted June 17 100K for Confession II in the USA seems like a reasonable prediction. But Olivia, Taylor (because of the wedding) and even Sienna Spiro might be in the conversation too. Quote
Confessit II Posted June 17 Posted June 17 8 minutes ago, Beastialg said: 100K for Confession II in the USA seems like a reasonable prediction. But Olivia, Taylor (because of the wedding) and even Sienna Spiro might be in the conversation too. Is that 100K in total hun, sales & streams combined? Total units? Quote
Beastialg Posted June 17 Posted June 17 26 minutes ago, Confessit II said: Is that 100K in total hun, sales & streams combined? Total units? Total Units. Didn't someone post that IA was predicting 75K-125K opening for Confessions II at the moment? Quote
Confessit II Posted June 17 Posted June 17 3 minutes ago, Beastialg said: Total Units. Didn't someone post that IA was predicting 75K-125K opening for Confessions II at the moment? Yes I think someone got that from AI. At the end of the day MX got 95K in total units, and CII has a lot more appeal than that one had for casuals on streaming, plus there’s been more variants for the hardcore fanbase to buy up. So I completely agree with your prediction of 100K in America. But I think a more conservative figure of 80K is more realistic? Quote
Nikki Posted June 17 Posted June 17 1 hour ago, Confessit II said: This is amazing! So my Q is, why did they hire & pay for a body double? What else could the body double possibly be required for other than for the shots of Madonna flying through the air on a wire? it's the same dancer from the celebration tour. how do ya'll not know this? pay attention.. she has used dancers as body doubles for YEARS to see how the choreography looks. she's in the celebration tour in rio rehearsals, and other women doing her part while M watches are in her previous tours as well.. nothing about that is new. maybe she had a bigger part this time (like the rolling in the carpet, maybe some poses or when she struts to the bathroom, but if M says she does her own stunts and choreo, she's correct. if anything, she always downplays whatever she's doing. Quote
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