ThomasW Posted February 23 Posted February 23 4 hours ago, Confessit said: Not really but it’s not a fair comparison because it was the 3rd single from COADF and actually commercially released in September, 3 months after DWP2 premiered. There was no streaming back then for the sales to start from the moment people who went to see the film to come home and start streaming it. If true, this time it’s very different. It will be the lead single and benefit from instant streams after people hear it in the film. in America Jump was released in Mid-November so it didn't help the single much (the film got released in late June) , it did manage to go to #1 on hot100 single sales the week after its debut in late Nov and on Hot contemporary tracks it debuted in the top 30 in late Oct but then fell like a rock come Xmas
bard Posted February 23 Posted February 23 4 minutes ago, ThomasW said: in America Jump was released in Mid-November so it didn't help the single much (the film got released in late June) , it did manage to go to #1 on hot100 single sales the week after its debut in late Nov and on Hot contemporary tracks it debuted in the top 30 in late Oct but then fell like a rock come Xmas yeah there was hardly any impact from the film. if streaming had been around it might have gotten a small boost for a few weeks but hard to know.
DreamTheater Posted February 23 Posted February 23 5 hours ago, bardo said: not sure she's the "best" choice in terms of reaching a wider audience (that would be taylor), but i suppose in terms of popularity and fitting with the sound of the album and not alienating madonna's core fanbase, sabrina is a decent choice. but the weeknd would be even better. Taylor's music is not a good fit for Madonna and now she has her own album to push. And from all the top streamers today, Sabrina's core fans are more likely to respond to Madonna and stick to the song for long. I believe that was the issue with many of her past collaborations. Just look at videos from her recent tour, Madonna's influence is showing. Especially the playful sexuality element that I'm sure Taylor fans would find off-putting. 5 hours ago, bardo said: i think you and some others might be overestimating the impact having a song in the film will do. it's good exposure but i don't think it's a game changer or is going to result is huge streaming numbers. going viral would. That's right. A hit is made by the young and DWP2 will appeal mainly to an older audience. I don't get why people are so invested in this possibility.
dollhouse Posted February 23 Posted February 23 ^i think it will alert her older casual fans that she has new music coming out (she should release physical for them) and Thats good even if streaming wont get much impact
robster Posted February 23 Author Posted February 23 Weren't there reports somewhere that the album will feature lyrics that will dive into body image and age discrimination etc? What if Sabrina's involvement will be a mere music video cameo with indeed a "The Substance" like plot... Could be a fun tongue in cheek sort of commentary against the patriarchy, something M and Sabrina have both railed against...
domyeyebrows Posted February 23 Posted February 23 The M/Sabrina collab is being reported on Good Morning Britain like it's a fact not a rumour!
Nikki Posted February 23 Posted February 23 convo to a post from Matthew's insta about the Sabrina rumour. https://www.instagram.com/p/DVCKzQ9D2X4/ he was also using the same caption ("just because") in a post about M and Arca days ago https://www.instagram.com/p/DU4nL5ADqej/
luizotaviobarros Posted February 23 Posted February 23 Latest meltdown on Infinity: Looks like Arca (who leans urban) might be on the album too, so in the end, Confessions 2 is looking more and more like RH rather than a cohesive 90s-inspired House album.
Confessit II Posted February 23 Posted February 23 10 minutes ago, luizotaviobarros said: Latest meltdown on Infinity: Looks like Arca (who leans urban) might be on the album too, so in the end, Confessions 2 is looking more and more like RH rather than a cohesive 90s-inspired House album. We all suspected some of this months ago though didn’t we, with Tainy being followed last year and that picture of her in NY with him in a studio. But if the Sabrina collab is true, then I’d imagine that will be a song for the dance floor 2 hours ago, dollhouse said: 2 months? I’d say less than that now. If she is filming a music video I would be surprised if the lead single doesn’t premier next month!
V.K Posted February 23 Posted February 23 12 minutes ago, luizotaviobarros said: Latest meltdown on Infinity: Looks like Arca (who leans urban) might be on the album too, so in the end, Confessions 2 is looking more and more like RH rather than a cohesive 90s-inspired House album. Love Arca. She makes (great) remixes for pop tracks, so not necessarily on the main album corpus
V.K Posted February 23 Posted February 23 4 hours ago, robster said: Weren't there reports somewhere that the album will feature lyrics that will dive into body image and age discrimination etc? What if Sabrina's involvement will be a mere music video cameo with indeed a "The Substance" like plot... Could be a fun tongue in cheek sort of commentary against the patriarchy, something M and Sabrina have both railed against... There was this Demi Moore pic W magazine used recently on Instagram, about getting ready for Confessions 2. Anyway, fun idea
Veronica Eletronica Posted February 23 Posted February 23 38 minutes ago, luizotaviobarros said: Latest meltdown on Infinity: Looks like Arca (who leans urban) might be on the album too, so in the end, Confessions 2 is looking more and more like RH rather than a cohesive 90s-inspired House album. I wouldn't necessarily group Arca as an urban artist. She's very experimental and could be a great addition to the record if true. Love her work with Bjork and Shygirl. PS = I remember a few years ago Sabrina posting Love Tried To Welcome Me on her IG stories so shes clearly a fan.
Silverfox Posted February 23 Posted February 23 Agreed, I’d describe Arca as experimental club music. She’s very diverse and works with a range of styles but I wouldn’t say it’s urban specifically. Really pleased about this rumour.
robster Posted February 23 Author Posted February 23 Arca makes sense because she was in M's circle during the Celebration tour. I could also foresee a production credit for Honey Dijon..
Veronica Eletronica Posted February 23 Posted February 23 1 minute ago, robster said: Arca makes sense because she was in M's circle during the Celebration tour. I could also foresee a production credit for Honey Dijon.. Oh I would LOVE this. I always wanted her to collaborate with more female producers since I think M's production skills are often overlooked to what her male companions did
systemvalues Posted February 23 Posted February 23 7 hours ago, DreamTheater said: Taylor's music is not a good fit for Madonna and now she has her own album to push. And from all the top streamers today, Sabrina's core fans are more likely to respond to Madonna and stick to the song for long. I believe that was the issue with many of her past collaborations. Just look at videos from her recent tour, Madonna's influence is showing. Especially the playful sexuality element that I'm sure Taylor fans would find off-putting. That's right. A hit is made by the young and DWP2 will appeal mainly to an older audience. I don't get why people are so invested in this possibility. Maybe because they like DWP1.
runa Posted February 23 Posted February 23 Yeah, when you listen to Arca's work with Bjork, it has nothing to do with "urban". I agree that it makes sense.
systemvalues Posted February 23 Posted February 23 43 minutes ago, robster said: Arca makes sense because she was in M's circle during the Celebration tour. I could also foresee a production credit for Honey Dijon.. Yes, they both were in different Instagram 's posts with M many months ago.
Anne Posted February 23 Posted February 23 37 minutes ago, robster said: Arca makes sense because she was in M's circle during the Celebration tour. I could also foresee a production credit for Honey Dijon.. If Arca is on the album, I wonder if it could be from the sessions M did before the Celebration Tour, like with Sickick, Honey Dijon and Max Martin, and she could be adding the tracks reworked by Stuart.
systemvalues Posted February 23 Posted February 23 Just now, Anne said: If Arca is on the album, I wonder if it could be from the sessions M did before the Celebration Tour, like with Sickick, Honey Dijon and Max Martin, and she could be adding the tracks reworked by Stuart. I think so. Even though the songs, as almost always happens, will have gone through several stages of production before reaching the final product we'll hear on the album.
dollhouse Posted February 23 Posted February 23 this arca rumour we heard before, cant these "insiders" invent somethong new
metalissimo Posted February 23 Posted February 23 On 2/22/2026 at 8:50 AM, peter said: non-disclosure agreement Thanks
metalissimo Posted February 23 Posted February 23 Sabrina Carpenter and Madonna follow each other on Instagram. I'm really hoping they're collaborating. It could hit top 10 on Hot 100.
bard Posted February 23 Posted February 23 8 hours ago, robster said: Weren't there reports somewhere that the album will feature lyrics that will dive into body image and age discrimination etc? What if Sabrina's involvement will be a mere music video cameo with indeed a "The Substance" like plot... Could be a fun tongue in cheek sort of commentary against the patriarchy, something M and Sabrina have both railed against... i like this idea. but not expecting anything that elaborate or interesting tbh. 6 hours ago, Nikki said: convo to a post from Matthew's insta about the Sabrina rumour. https://www.instagram.com/p/DVCKzQ9D2X4/ he was also using the same caption ("just because") in a post about M and Arca days ago https://www.instagram.com/p/DU4nL5ADqej/ yeah, it's true this time. 3 hours ago, Silverfox said: Agreed, I’d describe Arca as experimental club music. She’s very diverse and works with a range of styles but I wouldn’t say it’s urban specifically. Really pleased about this rumour. yeah there are obviously some latin/reggaton influences but it's electronic music. i'm very pleased with this development. 1 hour ago, dollhouse said: this arca rumour we heard before, cant these "insiders" invent somethong new the collab rumors are true. SC is involved and 95% arca is one of the others. there's also a third (not sure if it's david or an actual artist though).
dollhouse Posted February 23 Posted February 23 28 minutes ago, bardo said: i like this idea. but not expecting anything that elaborate or interesting tbh. yeah, it's true this time. yeah there are obviously some latin/reggaton influences but it's electronic music. i'm very pleased with this development. the collab rumors are true. SC is involved and 95% arca is one of the others. there's also a third (not sure if it's david or an actual artist though). David Banda?
Confessit II Posted February 23 Posted February 23 Things seem to be moving fast now. I expect an announcement soon otherwise everything’s going to leak.
dollhouse Posted February 23 Posted February 23 2 minutes ago, Confessit said: Things seem to be moving fast now. I expect an announcement soon otherwise everything’s going to leak. So far: Duet with Sabrina Carpenter + David Banda playing instruments + Arca producing? 1single out in 2 months
Anne Posted February 23 Posted February 23 The other one could be Karol G. Madonna followed her last summer.
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