promise to try Posted April 21 Posted April 21 well, not a surprise actually. The process of choosing the next one will be really interesting. I have the feeling they have kept him alive until eastern weekend was over. His last action was important, to take all the money from a religious organisation and use their money to pay the people that have suffered child abuse Quote
Sanctuary1995 Posted April 21 Posted April 21 1 hour ago, promise to try said: well, not a surprise actually. The process of choosing the next one will be really interesting. I have the feeling they have kept him alive until eastern weekend was over. His last action was important, to take all the money from a religious organisation and use their money to pay the people that have suffered child abuse I tend to agree! Well at least he kept the appearance of being a tolerant person! Quote
Butter9 Posted April 21 Posted April 21 I was at the Vatican just last week with some friends prior to Easter and our guide told us that she was hopeful that he would make some sort of a recovery but the situation was pretty dicey . I didn't know it ( his death ) was going to happen so quickly . Was told an American donor paid for the restoration of one of the ceilings and the amount of arts that had been donated to the Vatican is massive . Quote
runa Posted April 21 Posted April 21 Conspiracy theory: He was already dead and what we saw in the last few weeks was just a double. Quote
promise to try Posted April 21 Author Posted April 21 we will have a lot of conspirations teories in the next weeks: that he was dead already, that the one we saw wasn´t the real pope, that the vicepresident of the US killed him, that the next pope will be black and will be the last one...the vatican is full of folklore! Quote
Sanctuary1995 Posted April 21 Posted April 21 58 minutes ago, promise to try said: we will have a lot of conspirations teories in the next weeks: that he was dead already, that the one we saw wasn´t the real pope, that the vicepresident of the US killed him, that the next pope will be black and will be the last one...the vatican is full of folklore! Well the one from Ghana seems like a nice dude Quote
elijah Posted April 21 Posted April 21 RIP. The only sane pope in my lifetime. And with all the mad ones, we needed a sane one Quote
Raider of the lost Ark Posted April 21 Posted April 21 Events like this are so fascinating. Like weddings, coronations and death/funerals of royals this is almost unreal, somehow alien to "normal" people. It really happens, but it's like watching a movie or a history documentary because much of this is based on traditions many centuries old. Obviously, the fact that the locations (castles, churches, The Vatican) are just as old and are fabulous works of architecture and other arts very much add to the illusion. Which is weird because I have been to Rome, visited The Vatican Museums, was inside St. Peters and Sistine Chapel. Quote
thebigham Posted April 21 Posted April 21 I'm sure they will pick a new Pope that hates the gays. Quote
Genevieve Vavance Posted April 21 Posted April 21 2 minutes ago, thebigham said: I'm sure they will pick a new Pope that hates the gays. and covers up pdf priests Quote
Sanctuary1995 Posted April 21 Posted April 21 2 hours ago, runa said: Time to go back to Conclave ! Such a fascinating movie…! I’d rather Young Pope, what a fun watch Quote
Sanctuary1995 Posted April 21 Posted April 21 2 hours ago, Raider of the lost Ark said: Events like this are so fascinating. Like weddings, coronations and death/funerals of royals this is almost unreal, somehow alien to "normal" people. It really happens, but it's like watching a movie or a history documentary because much of this is based on traditions many centuries old. Obviously, the fact that the locations (castles, churches, The Vatican) are just as old and are fabulous works of architecture and other arts very much add to the illusion. Which is weird because I have been to Rome, visited The Vatican Museums, was inside St. Peters and Sistine Chapel. The St Peter’s basilica is outrageous!!! I had to visit it twice while in Rome to eventually realize how much of a multimillion dollar institution it is!!! Quote
runa Posted April 21 Posted April 21 1 hour ago, thebigham said: I'm sure they will pick a new Pope that hates the gays. Yeah, pope Francis was hated because he was too "open" to the gays… let me laugh. You can be sure they’ll find one that is worse. Quote
ULIZOS Posted April 21 Posted April 21 Marjorie Taylor Greene Says 'Evil Being Defeated' After Pope Francis Death Quote
Nikki Posted April 21 Posted April 21 there's a few seemingly "progressive" () candidates.. Matteo Zuppi from Italy, Turkson from Ghana and Luis from the Philippines. (the latter being very popular for his sense of humor..) seeing that Franciscus was outspoken in his support for people from diverse backgrounds getting opportunities, there's a chance they wanna continue his view on that.. from the videos Ive seen it better not be the Hungarian or Congolese candidate, very anti LGBTQ and women's rights Quote
Paul Posted April 21 Posted April 21 The Catholic Church is just an outdated power structure that’s serves no purpose other than to sustain its own power. Francis didn’t change anything. I’m sure he was a nice old man and all deaths are sad, but beyond that, the worldwide mourning is ridiculous. Quote
acko Posted April 21 Posted April 21 3 hours ago, Paul said: The Catholic Church is just an outdated power structure that’s serves no purpose other than to sustain its own power. Francis didn’t change anything. I’m sure he was a nice old man and all deaths are sad, but beyond that, the worldwide mourning is ridiculous. It's awful. He was a total fraud... People need to stop acting like he was some great reformer... Unless we're living in 1302... Quote
Martin B. Posted April 21 Posted April 21 3 hours ago, Paul said: The Catholic Church is just an outdated power structure that’s serves no purpose other than to sustain its own power. Francis didn’t change anything. I’m sure he was a nice old man and all deaths are sad, but beyond that, the worldwide mourning is ridiculous. this. Although he may have been the least worst of the popes, the fact remains that he was the representative of a racist, sexist, and homophobic institution responsible for abuse, exploitation, and injustice for 2,000 years. So, there's no reason to make a fuss about his death. Quote
Confessit Posted April 21 Posted April 21 5 minutes ago, Martin B. said: this. Although he may have been the least worst of the popes, the fact remains that he was the representative of a racist, sexist, and homophobic institution responsible for abuse, exploitation, and injustice for 2,000 years. So, there's no reason to make a fuss about his death. I absolutely agree nobody can deny the atrocities of the Catholic Church over the last 2000 years. But that isn’t his fault, yes he was the leader of it in a modern age but he can’t change what’s gone before, like King Charles, you can’t blame him for the British Royal Family’s past being the most ruthless and criminal family in the land. Quote
Martin B. Posted April 21 Posted April 21 4 minutes ago, Confessit said: I absolutely agree nobody can deny the atrocities of the Catholic Church over the last 2000 years. But that isn’t his fault, yes he was the leader of it in a modern age but he can’t change what’s gone before, like King Charles, you can’t blame him for the British Royal Family’s past being the most ruthless and criminal family in the land. Racism, homophobia, and sexism were still present during his pontificate. Yes, he did better than his predecessors, but the institution remains just as toxic. Quote
Confessit Posted April 21 Posted April 21 1 minute ago, Martin B. said: Racism, homophobia, and sexism were still present during his pontificate. Yes, he did better than his predecessors, but the institution remains just as toxic. I absolutely agree. Quote
Dany Targaryen Posted April 21 Posted April 21 He will be missed..definitely one of the best Popes. Quote
promise to try Posted April 22 Author Posted April 22 4 hours ago, Martin B. said: Racism, homophobia, and sexism were still present during his pontificate. Yes, he did better than his predecessors, but the institution remains just as toxic. I agree.And, on the other hand, a lot of people are saying on the net that he was comunist, the anticrist... Quote
acko Posted April 22 Posted April 22 He still did nothing in the way of recognition of the many victims of sexual abuse by the hand of catholic institutions.. The wounds are big in these country. Quote
Mozo1 Posted April 22 Posted April 22 RIP, Francis. Madonna is the best thing catholicism has ever produced - and ever will. Quote
Raider of the lost Ark Posted April 22 Posted April 22 Is CNN growing some balls? They had a segment about Trump and Melania visiting the pope back in 2017 (?). Melania adressing the pope as "Your highness". Of course, we already knew she is not really bright. Quote
Sanctuary1995 Posted April 22 Posted April 22 T will probably pull some awkward crap again at the funeral Quote
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