Russia and Ukraine thread

[Kilt]

I mean....

 

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Putin’s bitch! Disgraceful beyond belief!

[Jazzy Jan]

Trump is an absolute disgrace.  We all knew he would side with Russia ( he adores Putin and dictators in general ) but to dismiss Ukraine, mock their president and blame them for Russia invading them is beyond disgusting.  He is going to make the United States the most hated country in the world.  He does not care for anyone and mocks his allies.  How can he hold peace talks regarding the war in Ukraine and NOT include Ukraine in the discussions.  

[Raider of the lost Ark]

People are seriously pissed. Like I have never seen it before. The U.S. reputation is at the lowest it has ever been and at this point I don't how the U.S. want to come back from that. They have alienated all of their allies and general concensus is that no one can rely on the U.S. anymore. The good thing, and finally I would like to argue, countries are emancipating. It appears as if trade talks between the EU and Canada are top priority and a European army as well. All of this is meant to get away from the U.S. as much as possible. I think the current U.S. government may not be aware of the consequence of their doing. Sooner or later they will be on their own. And for the most hated country on the planet with a lot of countries, organizations and people having an axe to grind with, the U.S. and its citizens may be at a security risk never seen before. It is the arrogance of the U.S. (and the lack of manners) that is their biggest weakness. They think everything revolves around them. The World, especially Canada and the EU are nothing without them. The problem is, this is not a one way street and I am not sure the U.S. have thought this though. What will happen when the U.S. no longer has access to intelligence from their allies, what if they loose their military bases in Europe and therefore loose access to their (often questionable) military operations in the Middle East and Africa. Of course, U.S. arms producers will lose tens of billions of profits, tens of thousands of people will lose their jobs in the U.S. in those industries. No one should be surprised, the EU and other countries will no longer buy U.S. arms. Let's face it, the EU has companies that produce far more advanced and less expensive arms than the U.S.. The only issue so far was capacity. But this can be changed rather quickly. Here is a little secret, Germany may have been reluctant with the arms production and obviously was more about a diplomatic approach and of course, as a result of WWII was obliged by international agreements to abstain from becoming a huge military power BUT we are not naive. All important idustries and their companies, especially car companies have plans to switch to war-time production. I personally also do believe that Germany should produce their own nuclear weapons (technically we are not allowed, but this refers to peace and while we are not at war, I don't think we have peace) or alternatively France will ramp up production of their nuclear weapons and in result every European country can be under the nuclear umbrella of France. If history has shown one thing, the moment a country does have nuclear weapons, no one dares to attack them. In retrospect, Ukraine should have never given up their nuclear weapons arsenal they had from the Soviet Union.

Sorry for the rant.

[Raider of the lost Ark]

In regards to those US / Russia "negotiations": Does anyone remember the Hitler / Stalin pact? 

[Lolo]

32 minutes ago, Raider of the lost Ark said:

In regards to those US / Russia "negotiations": Does anyone remember the Hitler / Stalin pact? 

Of course. And there are already talks about splitting Europe among the two of them. Scary times. I wouldn’t want to live under any of those regimes. 
 

The US will have a hard time coming back from this, ever… they lost any credibility whatsoever. From now on it’s just a gamble inbetween elections and legislations. You will never know what’s the agenda in 4 years, no matter the current state of affairs…  The absolute worst. 

[sotos8]

20 minutes ago, Lolo said:

And there are already talks about splitting Europe among the two of them

that's what i believe too ,fuck them

[Cyber-Raga]

33 minutes ago, sotos8 said:

that's what i believe too ,fuck them

Amen

 

1 hour ago, Raider of the lost Ark said:

In regards to those US / Russia "negotiations": Does anyone remember the Hitler / Stalin pact? 

Poland was screwed in 1939. I guess it’s time for the rest of Europe now. 

[sotos8]

Attention, Europe!

Russian propagandist Solovyev has his own ideas on what Russia and the US should negotiate.

"Why not create a military coalition between Russia and America and divide Europe? Who needs it? I think it's a great idea. We'll set up our bases, without a hitch, at… pic.twitter.com/Y8HvdU02Ej

— Anton Gerashchenko (@Gerashchenko_en) February 18, 2025

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Dear God   

 

[Kilt]

2 hours ago, Camacho said:

Dear God   

 

This is how trickle down Kremlin propaganda works 

Their brains have either short term memory or no capacity to analyse information 

[Sanctuary1995]

Well there were people protesting in NYC (or some other big USA city) in 1940’s against getting involved in WW2 because Hitler didn’t do anything to them 

[elijah]

5 hours ago, Sanctuary1995 said:

Well there were people protesting in NYC (or some other big USA city) in 1940’s against getting involved in WW2 because Hitler didn’t do anything to them 

The Nazis would have turned against USA if they conquered Europe.

[Sanctuary1995]

2 hours ago, elijah said:

The Nazis would have turned against USA if they conquered Europe.

I know

my point was that stupid people existed back then too 

[Bjornvegards]

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Edited February 20 by Bjornvegards
I gave up after the first comment.

[ULIZOS]

4 hours ago, Bjornvegards said:

The big question now is what can be done in the us now. I can’t believe many republican politicians share Trumps wievs!!! Are they just going to sit and do nothing!! I don’t understand how this is even possible. Why is no one in the us stopping this madness?!! He must suffer from dementia or some serious mental issue!!!

Of course they're going to sit and do nothing, it's in this country's best interest (I'm in the U.S.). We're going to fix our relationship with Russia, which is better for our economy. They couldn't care less what happens in Ukraine.

What's shocking is the rest of the world sitting and doing nothing. It's clear the U.S. can do whatever it wants and everyone will sit back and do nothing. We can do whatever we want, Trump has made it clear in 4 weeks. At most another country will place a tariff on us. Maybe make us fill out a travel visa to visit their country 

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[runa]

He’ll let Putin invade Canada from the North.
Then he’ll come to "save" Canada.
Then they will split Canada : a part up north will belong to Russia, then all the rest will be for USA, our saviour.

Fan fiction? Not so sure about that.

[Cyber-Raga]

27 minutes ago, runa said:

He’ll let Putin invade Canada from the North.
Then he’ll come to "save" Canada.
Then they will split Canada : a part up north will belong to Russia, then all the rest will be for USA, our saviour.

Fan fiction? Not so sure about that.

Don’t worry, first it’s going to be Europe. You can then plan your strategies to defend yourself accordingly. You’re welcome 

[runa]

1 hour ago, Cyber-Raga said:

Don’t worry, first it’s going to be Europe. You can then plan your strategies to defend yourself accordingly. You’re welcome 

We are doomed, haha   

 

[Kilt]

12 hours ago, runa said:

He’ll let Putin invade Canada from the North.
Then he’ll come to "save" Canada.
Then they will split Canada : a part up north will belong to Russia, then all the rest will be for USA, our saviour.

Fan fiction? Not so sure about that.

Not before Putin attacks Alaska first

[promise to try]

I have a doubt: are the news in the USA talking about the situation maga is creating everywhere? I mean, from the point of view of the rest of the world? do they say that we are scared of Trump and Musk?

[Raider of the lost Ark]

1 hour ago, promise to try said:

I have a doubt: are the news in the USA talking about the situation maga is creating everywhere? I mean, from the point of view of the rest of the world? do they say that we are scared of Trump and Musk?

About Ukraine. Yes. About the other countries (in Europe, Canada, Mexico). Hardly. Yes, they had some reports about JD Vance talking in Munich. But all of this is very superficial. And of course from a U.S. point of view, often ignoring the realties in other countries. It is all very lazy. As an example, there was a recent 60 minutes report about free speech in Germany (well, there is already the first mistake, we have freedom of expression (opinion)) and almost all was misrepresented and examples taken out of context to paint a picture that simply does not exist. This report is picked up by content creators to discuss the situation. Often with some legal analyst but never a German one. And they get it wrong. Even channels like Bulwark showing a gross ignorance. At least the comments under their video is setting the record straight from German and European commentators (since freedom of expression / of speech in other European countries are more in line with Germanys than the U.S.). But under other videos it is a the usual hate party. 

Let's face it, if the U.S. would be a little bit more like other countries (in Europe, Canada) when it comes to freedom of expression, they would not be in the mess they are. I mean, just compare politicians behaviour in the U.S. and Germany (as a current example because of elections). It is night and day. But again, the U.S. do not care. You know, "we are the greatest", "we are the best". 

[runa]

5 hours ago, Kilt said:

Not before Putin attacks Alaska first

I’m sorry but Putin interest in Alaska is minimal.

With the polar ice steadily melting, the Arctic Ocean, part of Canada,  is emerging as a vital economic, political and military area, for multiple reasons :

The most obvious issue at play is the opening of the Northwest Passage, a shipping route that snakes through the Canadian Arctic. Some policy-makers anticipate that, due to melting sea ice, large-scale commercial shipping across the passage may become viable by mid-century, allowing it to function as a seasonal alternative to the Panama Canal. The potential profits are considerable.

Adding to that, many suspect the presence of oil in this region. This is highly probable. Whoever controls the region will also control the oil. 

Finally , Putin (with the help of China) is using this part of the World to build and install military units. With these military bases, he would be able to launch deadly missiles as far away as New York or Washington. 
 

Strategically, this is way more important and interesting for Russia to attack Canada and win this area, than going to Alaska. 

[promise to try]

On 2/22/2025 at 11:23 AM, Raider of the lost Ark said:

About Ukraine. Yes. About the other countries (in Europe, Canada, Mexico). Hardly. Yes, they had some reports about JD Vance talking in Munich. But all of this is very superficial. And of course from a U.S. point of view, often ignoring the realties in other countries. It is all very lazy. As an example, there was a recent 60 minutes report about free speech in Germany (well, there is already the first mistake, we have freedom of expression (opinion)) and almost all was misrepresented and examples taken out of context to paint a picture that simply does not exist. This report is picked up by content creators to discuss the situation. Often with some legal analyst but never a German one. And they get it wrong. Even channels like Bulwark showing a gross ignorance. At least the comments under their video is setting the record straight from German and European commentators (since freedom of expression / of speech in other European countries are more in line with Germanys than the U.S.). But under other videos it is a the usual hate party. 

Let's face it, if the U.S. would be a little bit more like other countries (in Europe, Canada) when it comes to freedom of expression, they would not be in the mess they are. I mean, just compare politicians behaviour in the U.S. and Germany (as a current example because of elections). It is night and day. But again, the U.S. do not care. You know, "we are the greatest", "we are the best". 

this  is so so childish, and no good

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