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16 minutes ago, headonfire said:

Why did Kamala’s camp think bringing out all those celebs would help her? 

That was foolish.

Of course not the reason she lost, but it didn’t get her any votes, and just helped drive the MAGA narrative of establishment vs. us.

With all my honesty and being 100% impartial, all the celebrities were dragged since day 1. They did worse than better to Kamala. 

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52 minutes ago, Icykiller said:

I haven't been to the US since 2019, when I lived in Tucson for about five years. And not going anytime soon now it seems 🤣

And yes, soemone mentioned there is no left politics there. True. The closest is Bernie Sanders, but US folk are too scared of leftist ideas. Sad. 

A big hug to everyone over there. And to all my fellow Mexicanos. Hard times ahead negotiating with the idiot.

Yeah. Mexicans, Ukrainians, Taiwanese… even us, Canadians… I wish them all good luck.

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The worst part is that there's no saving this, not ever, or at least not for a long, long time. And If Trump dies tomorrow we would just have JD Vance come at his place or someone just as bad.

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29 minutes ago, headonfire said:

Why did Kamala’s camp think bringing out all those celebs would help her? 

That was foolish.

Of course not the reason she lost, but it didn’t get her any votes, and just helped drive the MAGA narrative of establishment vs. us.

It worked in the past I guess? but anyway, she never even stood a small chance, not her fault.

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19 minutes ago, Andra said:

It worked in the past I guess? but anyway, she never even stood a small chance, not her fault.

I don’t think Harris did badly at all. With Biden they would have lost by a lot more. Most people wanted change and saw Harris as a continuation of Biden, so she started a long way behind. She actually did really well to hold as many votes as she did, it just wasn’t enough. 

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11 hours ago, whyme? said:

She wasn't a strong candidate to begin with. I mean she did everything she could do, her campaign was very good. But she herself just lacked that charisma, or 'rock star' personality to bring massive amounts of people to vote for her (like Obama or bill Clinton). 

These next few years will be a massive shit show. If democrats lose the House, America will change forever. 

Sums IT up. Wasn't the 'campaign' (she had the grade A, best, top tier Obama alumni), or any 2016-esque Oct. surprises etc...ALL signs of what was coming goes back to her 2019 Pres. campaign. All front loaded froth but was never able to bring it home/close the deal. Moment I heard her on those 1st interviews after she became Senator in 2016 something about her as an orator and demeanor rubbed me the wrong way. Flimsy, disconnected, awkward, insecure. Always better as an AG, Cabinet official but NOT on top (or near top) of the ticket political talent. Just like DeSantis. You have IT or you don't. Like an athlete or singer/performer. So it is NOT race or gender for me here. Far as The US, absolutely that's a reeally big fng problem. Dems (much as they try to shake it) have a raging DEI, elite, identity politics problem. WHO the actual F thought it was a good idea to have GAGA & KATY PERRY again perform in the same place (just like on the eve of 2016 for Hillary) lmao  

Issue almost since day 1 were the *messengers- both BIDEN and her. Masses were pleading for him to not run again for 3+ year. Split 2nd I heard he's running again in early 2023 I viscerally had a verry bad feeling about the end result. BUT if he at least didn't run again would've had a robust primary! Ya, I absolutely feel there's a # of grade A bench of Governors etc...who would've put Trump away. 

Been there done that w/ this 'feeling' from 8 years ago already. It's not at all a 'positive' difference. But (just by default) what makes it less of a brutal gut punch is I've/we've been 'here' already & the shock AND surprise factor makes it less catastrophic shock to the system. There's no unknown/mystery at all about him anymore. He's been bright broad daylight VOCAL about what him, Supreme Court and his Project 2025 thugs are gonna do.

ALL when (not if) they come for all the whiny, uppity, basic, gated community soccer Mom Karen's and Ken's who think/believe they're insulated from *this kind of Government they about to get scorched w/ reality. Split 2nd they bitch Trump didn't make their eggs at Whole Foods go down 30 cents after all they'll be doxed and 'found' online on their Facebook account somehow.

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1 hour ago, Confessit said:

They should have got rid of Biden last year and then she would have had a whole year to campaign.

Oh well lessons learned hopefully 

I think the Covid impact is bigger than we give credit for. Most countries around the world changed their administration because of its impact in their economy and society. It's like people don't want anything related to those years.

Trump lost the 2020 mainly because of COVID (I'm sure had there not been a pandemic that year he would have been re-elected), but he is remember more for the 2016-2019 era than 2020.

And Harris (whic is part of the Biden administration) is losing this election because of how they handle the economy during 2020-2024.Yep, they actually handle it really well or as best as they could, but they are seen as responsible for some of the after effects it had in economy, like inflation.

Most people don't vote thinking about abortion, gay right, social justice or democracy. They vote thinking in how much money they have in their wallet.

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1 hour ago, Confessit said:

They should have got rid of Biden last year and then she would have had a whole year to campaign.

Oh well lessons learned hopefully 

THIS. I've said it many x since at least 2022. Flashing warning lights everywhere poll after poll after poll NO one wanted him to run again! =you do NOT run again. ALL about the donors and people like Pelosi. They could've did *what they did (pulled the plug) in July in 2022 or 2023 (latest!) We all saw and heard him melting away esp. rapidly in the last few years. Trump announced and basically locked up the nomination in 2022! 2 full years for Dems to at least TRY to get their absolute shit together w/ what was at stake. 

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Yep, bad...truly awful wretched guys/thugs are winning. Not being morbid or negative. It's an absolute fact. 

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22 minutes ago, Beastialg said:

Most people don't vote thinking about abortion, gay right, social justice or democracy. They vote thinking in how much money they have in their wallet.

But isn't it interesting that they blame the government for their financial issues? They want the government to do something about their paychecks? Isn't that Communism? How about telling your employer to pay you more? Seriously, the lack of overall education and the lack of understanding of general economics in the U.S. is downright shocking, although not surprising, the system is supposed to work exactly like that. And this is something the U.S. is really "top" in the World. You have to look really hard in Europe and other places for people to seriously blame things like inflation on the government. 

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8 minutes ago, Camacho said:

 

I hope all those "I don't vote for Genocide Kamala" voters are happy. Have one last look at a place what will soon be remembered as Palestine. 

Gaza Seashore Villas and Condos. Construction to start soon. Brought to you by Kushner/Trump construction. Project is financed by Saudi Arabia. (First 10.000 buyers get Highly Limited Edition Trump Golden Sneakers for free*. *) Shipping and Handling Fees apply: USD 499.00 per shoe) 

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6 minutes ago, Raider of the lost Ark said:

But isn't it interesting that they blame the government for their financial issues? They want the government to do something about their paychecks? Isn't that Communism? How about telling your employer to pay you more? Seriously, the lack of overall education and the lack of understanding of general economics in the U.S. is downright shocking, although not surprising, the system is supposed to work exactly like that. And this is something the U.S. is really "top" in the World. You have to look really hard in Europe and other places for people to seriously blame things like inflation on the government. 

I get you but it's not the only place in the world. South America is very similar, people do blame the government for inflation. In Argentina we had a centre-left goverment during Covid, and last year people end up voting an extreme right (new) party because they wanted fast solutions to the economy and the inflation problem. The government is anti abortion, gays and trans people, BUT inflation is going down. 

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4 minutes ago, Beastialg said:

I get you but it's not the only place in the world. South America is very similar, people do blame the government for inflation. In Argentina we had a centre-left goverment during Covid, and last year people end up voting an extreme right (new) party because they wanted fast solutions to the economy and the inflation problem. The government is anti abortion, gays and trans people, BUT inflation is going down. 

Are people really that stupid to think the government did something that the inflation is going down. The inflation is going down everywhere

People have become willfully ignorant. Even worse, many of them enjoy themselves that way. To me, they are lost. It's not worth trying to educate them. They need to hit rock bottom to eventually come around. But most likely not. People of this kind will blame this on someone else as well. 

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30 minutes ago, Raider of the lost Ark said:

But isn't it interesting that they blame the government for their financial issues? They want the government to do something about their paychecks? Isn't that Communism? How about telling your employer to pay you more? Seriously, the lack of overall education and the lack of understanding of general economics in the U.S. is downright shocking, although not surprising, the system is supposed to work exactly like that. And this is something the U.S. is really "top" in the World. You have to look really hard in Europe and other places for people to seriously blame things like inflation on the government. 

WHY he continues being a thing. He's them they're him. More vile, brazen and louder he got the better he did (decisive popular vote!) . See where this is going? 'Only likes the uneducated'. Bingo. 10 & now 15+ years now of this shiate at the min. THEN, there's Vance.   

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And 2022 midterms were a deceiving fluke that ended up a sugar high devil in disguise for the Dems. Dobbs was still 'new' and if anything was THE reason Biden fng decided to run again! 

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now some of the Democrats are blaming Biden of attemting a second term and not giving up earlier so Kamala would have more time to build her candidacy .It was clear 2 years now that Biden was unfit and look what happened

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They don’t care about that… it’s the economy … yeah, right, 🙄

As if the felon would have done a better job. Inflation was skyrocketing all around the globe. It would have been the same in USA if he was the President in the last 4 years. :doh:

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1 hour ago, sotos8 said:

now some of the Democrats are blaming Biden of attemting a second term and not giving up earlier so Kamala would have more time to build her candidacy .It was clear 2 years now that Biden was unfit and look what happened

Nope, should've been an *open primary (announcing he wouldn't run in Fall 2022/early 2023 right after the midterms) starting from scratch. Make her earn/WORK for it. Unless he had significant health reasons or got hurt god forbid then ya/But his 'mind' was busted basically since day 1 in 2020. All of it simply imploded at the June debate. 

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Yep. We get what we deserve. Buckle up for the continuing rot of the U.S. 

Posted

and what a MESS of a speech! he rambled about the paint job of Elon's rocket, put an athlete on the stage, and barely talked about the win and plan itself or what he achieved is for the history books and the biggest political comeback of all time. it's like he didn't even know. he's such an idiot it's unbelievable. 

compare that to this

 

Posted
1 hour ago, thebigham said:

 

None of these vile motherfuckers care about how Lebanon has been destroyed by the filthy Hezbollah terrorists for decades. 

Posted
22 minutes ago, jonski43 said:

 

 

False equivalency. And her plea for a start to listen to the other side? Why do I feel she is talking about the left-leaning side that needs to listen to the right wingers? Why does no one ever ask the same from the right-leaning side? Double standard. I have googled her and it appears she is one of the people who claim to have been cancelled because she was oh so brave to stand up for womens rights in the midst of a gender and sex discussion within her dance company (a dance company of all places!) Now she has this project to protect the "intellectual and creative freedom of artists". All fine, but why do I have the feeling what she really wants is to discriminate against certain people? And always this talk about freedom of speech without even knowing what freedom of speech really means. When will those people ever learn  that freedom of speech merely relates to the government. The government cannot censor you or retaliate against you or sanction you legally if you say something negative about the government. There it basically ends. Freedom of speech is not absolute. Things you say may have consequence in everyday life and business. It's really not that hard to understand, provided one wants to understand. And no, we should not listen to her side. 

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