runa Posted August 7 Posted August 7 History repeats itself, but the victim becomes the persecutor. It's all very sad.
sotos8 Posted September 15 Posted September 15 Hannah Einbinder on saying "Free Palestine" in her Emmys acceptance speech."It is my obligation as a Jewish person to distinguish Jews from the state of Israel. Our religion and our culture is such an important and long-standing institution that is really separate to this sort… pic.twitter.com/FNVTji7VC3— Variety (@Variety) September 15, 2025
Raider of the lost Ark Posted September 16 Posted September 16 11 minutes ago, jonski43 said: What's the point of this tweet? To tell us that Hamas is evil? Isn't this general consensus? And he had to sign an NDA and therefore cannot say what he saw, so we have to believe that guy, a right wing commentator and podcaster. And why not release it, it supports the case of Israel? I suppose to protect the victims? Just like the Trump administration does not release the Epstein files to protect the victims? And worse than the Nazis? As a German, I can say with conviction, that so far nothing has been worse than the Nazis. I could even make the far fetched argument that the 7th of October only happened because of Nazi Germany and the Holocaust, assuming no state of Israel would exist if the Nazis never came to power.
jonski43 Posted September 16 Posted September 16 28 minutes ago, Raider of the lost Ark said: What's the point of this tweet? To tell us that Hamas is evil? Isn't this general consensus? And he had to sign an NDA and therefore cannot say what he saw, so we have to believe that guy, a right wing commentator and podcaster. And why not release it, it supports the case of Israel? I suppose to protect the victims? Just like the Trump administration does not release the Epstein files to protect the victims? And worse than the Nazis? As a German, I can say with conviction, that so far nothing has been worse than the Nazis. I could even make the far fetched argument that the 7th of October only happened because of Nazi Germany and the Holocaust, assuming no state of Israel would exist if the Nazis never came to power. Hamas consistently sat they are committed to the extermination of the Jews. You only have to look at the history of the Jews to see how they've been driven out or exterminated across North Africa and the Arab States. And the footage already released has shown women being raped and mutilated, having nails hammered into their vaginas or shot, having legs broken whilst being raped then killed. Families tied up and set on fire. Babies and young children strangled with bare hands. The footage is it out there. I would say the comparison with the Nazis is entirely justified. The red hand symbol relates to a man who lynched and murdered two Israelis. Hamas are committed to the extermination of the Jews and other infidels. They could surrender. They could give back the hostages but they won't. I want people to understand what they're supporting. Hamas are an evil organisation who don't care about their own people. There has to be another way to resolve this but supporting hamas isn't it!
Sanctuary1995 Posted September 16 Posted September 16 33 minutes ago, jonski43 said: Hamas consistently sat they are committed to the extermination of the Jews. You only have to look at the history of the Jews to see how they've been driven out or exterminated across North Africa and the Arab States. And the footage already released has shown women being raped and mutilated, having nails hammered into their vaginas or shot, having legs broken whilst being raped then killed. Families tied up and set on fire. Babies and young children strangled with bare hands. The footage is it out there. I would say the comparison with the Nazis is entirely justified. The red hand symbol relates to a man who lynched and murdered two Israelis. Hamas are committed to the extermination of the Jews and other infidels. They could surrender. They could give back the hostages but they won't. I want people to understand what they're supporting. Hamas are an evil organisation who don't care about their own people. There has to be another way to resolve this but supporting hamas isn't it! I also don’t understand (to put it mildly) the Queers for Palestine movement, it’s been bothering me a lot
jonski43 Posted September 16 Posted September 16 10 minutes ago, Sanctuary1995 said: I also don’t understand (to put it mildly) the Queers for Palestine movement, it’s been bothering me a lot Yes, I understand wanting peace but supporting an organisation that literally kills gay people is just bizarre. I've seen several instances in the UK of pro-pals saying they don't want the support of gay people. It's called suicidal empathy. There has to be a better way of resolving this than the current situation.
runa Posted September 16 Posted September 16 Oh wow, this thread And what a surprise to see @jonski43 to post his usual bullshit. So transparent. To support Palestine and a two states solution doesn’t mean we support Hamas. It means we are against the GENOCIDE that is happening in front of our eyes. GENOCIDE. If you need help, I can give you the definition. And about the theory of Palestinians against gay people… where should I start Keep posting shit from right wing idiots, can’t wait to see if they’re on your side or not. "Suicidal empathy" my ass.
jonski43 Posted September 16 Posted September 16 13 minutes ago, runa said: Oh wow, this thread And what a surprise to see @jonski43 to post his usual bullshit. So transparent. To support Palestine and a two states solution doesn’t mean we support Hamas. It means we are against the GENOCIDE that is happening in front of our eyes. GENOCIDE. If you need help, I can give you the definition. And anout the theory of Palestinians against gay people… where should I start Keep posting shit from right wing idiots, can’t wait to see if they’re on your side or not. "Suicidal empathy" my ass. A genocide so terrible the population has increased in the past year Gaza has grown by 22,771 in the last year, which represents a 2.84% annual change. https://share.google/ha6z6ip9gzioDEps6 Keep getting your "facts" from terrorist organisations in your little echo chamber to make yourself feel better.
runa Posted September 16 Posted September 16 9 minutes ago, jonski43 said: A genocide so terrible the population has increased in the past year Gaza has grown by 22,771 in the last year, which represents a 2.84% annual change. https://share.google/ha6z6ip9gzioDEps6 Keep getting your "facts" from terrorist organisations in your little echo chamber to make yourself feel better. You’re talking to me of ECHO CHAMBER??? Says the one who keeps posting stuff from X……. Oh the IRONY.
runa Posted September 16 Posted September 16 More than 10% of Gaza’s population has been killed or injured, former Israeli military chief says So yeah… the population has increased.
Crux Posted September 16 Posted September 16 1 hour ago, jonski43 said: Yes, I understand wanting peace but supporting an organisation that literally kills gay people is just bizarre. I've seen several instances in the UK of pro-pals saying they don't want the support of gay people. It's called suicidal empathy. There has to be a better way of resolving this than the current situation. I have to agree. I've never understood why the Queers for Palestine movement supports them when they've basically told us to shove it up our arses. These people thought nothing of beheading their own and throwing them off the tallest building, and would do the same to the pro pal Queers in a heartbeat. Pointing out the truth isn't hatred, it's a fact.
Confessit Posted September 16 Posted September 16 9 hours ago, Crux said: I have to agree. I've never understood why the Queers for Palestine movement supports them when they've basically told us to shove it up our arses. These people thought nothing of beheading their own and throwing them off the tallest building, and would do the same to the pro pal Queers in a heartbeat. Pointing out the truth isn't hatred, it's a fact. It is very odd and bizarre. None of the Palestine states in the world protect LGBTQ+ people whatsoever. The genocide of Gaza is absolutely horrendous, but Gaza would throw this entire forum into prison, that’s just pure facts. That’s not to say all Palestine people are homophobic but they are certainly in countries where gay people are absolutely discriminated against, in some places horrifically but it isn’t accepted in any of the ways of life.
Sanctuary1995 Posted September 17 Posted September 17 On 9/16/2025 at 10:37 PM, Confessit said: It is very odd and bizarre. None of the Palestine states in the world protect LGBTQ+ people whatsoever. The genocide of Gaza is absolutely horrendous, but Gaza would throw this entire forum into prison, that’s just pure facts. That’s not to say all Palestine people are homophobic but they are certainly in countries where gay people are absolutely discriminated against, in some places horrifically but it isn’t accepted in any of the ways of life. Reminds me of the Black Lives Matter protests when most random people participated just for the sake of “looking good” while in reality not giving a single fuck about the black lives
Confessit Posted September 17 Posted September 17 1 minute ago, Sanctuary1995 said: Reminds me of the Black Lives Matter protests when most random people participated just for the sake of “looking good” while in reality not giving a single fuck about the black lives I quite agree. Altruism is alive and well. Conviction isn’t.
Je5u5 Posted September 18 Posted September 18 2 hours ago, SOON said: Indeed, following countries like Ireland and fhe Netherlands, Spain confirmed this week, officially, that we will not participate if Israel does. That would also mean the show not being broadcasted here. The key thing is that Spain is part of the Big 5, which are the biggest financial contributors of the contest. But I'm sure Israel will just offer a check to cover whatever Spain and any other country is not giving.
promise to try Posted September 18 Posted September 18 true, Israel will pay for spain´s part and the finantial problem will be solved.Hoepfully more countries will stop going to israel now. Actually, Ukraine should stop! I mean, as solidarity with people that are being bombed like they are
Confessit Posted September 20 Posted September 20 Apparently, tomorrow, our Prime Minister will officially announce the U.K. will now recognise a Palestinian state. This is very significant considering the U.K had a major hand in Israel’s creation, and has resisted making the move away from that for years.
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