Flip The Switch Posted November 23, 2022 Posted November 23, 2022 Disgusting. https://nypost.com/2022/11/21/balenciaga-under-fire-over-ads-with-kids-in-bondage-gear/amp/ Quote
luluthecat Posted November 23, 2022 Posted November 23, 2022 I'm all for being subversive, and like lot of Balenciaga's work, but yeah as a rule just leave the kids out of it. Quote
jonski43 Posted November 23, 2022 Posted November 23, 2022 Their clothes have become a joke. Shock value with outrageous prices that's turned the brand to trash. Keep it for the Kardashians. Quote
karbatal Posted November 24, 2022 Posted November 24, 2022 8 hours ago, ULIZOS said: That's so cute! What the heck do you mean? Quote
zephyralexxx Posted November 26, 2022 Posted November 26, 2022 On 11/23/2022 at 4:44 PM, jonski43 said: Their clothes have become a joke. Shock value with outrageous prices that's turned the brand to trash. Keep it for the Kardashians... Madonna. Quote
GOD Posted November 26, 2022 Posted November 26, 2022 i find their clothes horrendous, didnt they do the blue ikea bag once, oh i mean that's them to me in a nutshell. Quote
promise to try Posted November 26, 2022 Posted November 26, 2022 4 hours ago, GOD said: i find their clothes horrendous, didnt they do the blue ikea bag once, oh i mean that's them to me in a nutshell. and they used to be something like Chanel back in the day!!!! what the fuck has happened there! Quote
ULIZOS Posted November 29, 2022 Posted November 29, 2022 I was just kidding. This whole thing came off as a publicity stunt, as if they were trying to come off as edgy or something. Quote
jonski43 Posted November 29, 2022 Posted November 29, 2022 It seems they've got more child photography that's even worse https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11478251/Balenciaga-campaign-features-book-Belgian-Michael-Borremans-known-depicting-naked-kids.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton Quote
IsaacHarris Posted December 2, 2022 Posted December 2, 2022 On 11/28/2022 at 8:17 PM, ULIZOS said: This whole thing came off as a publicity stunt Exactly. Quote
Nikki Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 On 11/29/2022 at 8:58 AM, jonski43 said: It seems they've got more child photography that's even worse https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11478251/Balenciaga-campaign-features-book-Belgian-Michael-Borremans-known-depicting-naked-kids.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton Borremans is an incredible painter. Art is supposed to be strange and make people think. I cant with gen z and do many people on social media looking to get offended these days. Not everything is literal. Sorry but.. since when are the youth so fucking prude? This feels like the conservative alt right jumping in with their usual “wont somebody please think of the children” anti sex and homophobic “propaganda”. Dont fall for it. Quote
jonski43 Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Nikki said: Borremans is an incredible painter. Art is supposed to be strange and make people think. I cant with gen z and do many people on social media looking to get offended these days. Not everything is literal. Sorry but.. since when are the youth so fucking prude? This feels like the conservative alt right jumping in with their usual “wont somebody please think of the children” anti sex and homophobic “propaganda”. Dont fall for it. You might think images that have direct references to child abuse are "artists disturbing the peace" but I don't. I have friends that have to deal with this kind of stuff and it's unbelievably horrible. It isn't conservatism thinking that papers which refer to actual child abuse is unacceptable It's this kind of trying to act cool and not be shocked which enables serial abusers to continue in plain sight such as Uncle Terry, Harvey Weinstein etc. https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2022/nov/29/balenciaga-apologises-for-ads-featuring-bondage-bears-and-child-abuse-papers Quote
karbatal Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 Art is one thing but glorifying abuse is another. That painter can fuck off Quote
Nikki Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 6 hours ago, karbatal said: Art is one thing but glorifying abuse is another. That painter can fuck off Where's the glorifying of abuse? They're paintings of naked children. The Italian Renaissance, Rubens (Borremans' biggest inspiration) DaVinci, Botticelli, Velazquez, El Greco,V. D Weyden.. so many with paintings of nude children. Many of these are some of the most incredible works of art ever made. if we go this route, might as well burn all the museums and churches down.. just ban all historic art that shows nudity Quote
karbatal Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 9 hours ago, Nikki said: Borremans is an incredible painter. Art is supposed to be strange and make people think. I cant with gen z and do many people on social media looking to get offended these days. Not everything is literal. Sorry but.. since when are the youth so fucking prude? This feels like the conservative alt right jumping in with their usual “wont somebody please think of the children” anti sex and homophobic “propaganda”. Dont fall for it. Dude get a grip Quote
Nikki Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 25 minutes ago, karbatal said: Dude get a grip Whats with the attitude? What’s wrong with his paintings? Quote
runa Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 2 hours ago, karbatal said: Dude get a grip She kinda has a point, though. You’ll tell me time have changed, but still, it’s a little hypocritical. Quote
karbatal Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Nikki said: Whats with the attitude? What’s wrong with his paintings? I was so focused on the comparison with Reinsssance that I answered too strong. I’m sorry you are right. I don’t agree much. Old paintings depict nakedness as beauy or as nature. Not sexualised. But then again those children holding the prepuces may be a criticism to the mutullation of babies for religious reasons and not sexual either. So I’m not sure if I agree or disagree. I would need more data Quote
Django Posted December 4, 2022 Posted December 4, 2022 Sorry but what is the point of all this child pornography references? Those paintings? This is not art. It has nothing to do with the renaissance and I highly doubt this has something to do with trying to raise awareness about any of those issues, other than being just old plain shock value without substance mixed with arrogance. This is a fucking overpriced clothing brand, not Amnesty International. Quote
karbatal Posted December 4, 2022 Posted December 4, 2022 58 minutes ago, Django said: Sorry but what is the point of all this child pornography references? Those paintings? This is not art. It has nothing to do with the renaissance and I highly doubt this has something to do with trying to raise awareness about any of those issues, other than being just old plain shock value without substance mixed with arrogance. This is a fucking overpriced clothing brand, not Amnesty International. We are commenting on TWO issues here: Balenciaga and that Belgian painter. The comments about Renaissance and art are about the painter, NOT about Balenciaga Quote
Nikki Posted December 4, 2022 Posted December 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, karbatal said: We are commenting on TWO issues here: Balenciaga and that Belgian painter. The comments about Renaissance and art are about the painter, NOT about Balenciaga Thanks for pointing that out (and for the other reply! Always love to see room for discussion ) My comments were about the painter, not balenciaga, who i believe wanted to provoke for publicity. Theyve been trash for years. Quote
promise to try Posted December 6, 2022 Posted December 6, 2022 the pictures make me unconfortable.I don´t know if they are porn, but certainly is not something that I have ever thought close to a child. I guess that´s part of the plan, then they apologise, and continue selling their ugly expensive clothes Quote
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