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New war in Europe, courtesy of Putin


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1 hour ago, promise to try said:

I feel really sad for these people.They are killing them and life continues as if their lifes didn´t matter.I know it happens all the time, everywhere, and with different type of people, but for some reason these attackings and bombings...I don´t know, it reminds me of the stories my granmother used to tell me. I hope it finishes fast.

I understand what you mean. I felt the same during the Balkan wars. It feels deep and it reminded me too to the Civil War stories. 

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The US announced a new round of sanctions targeting Russian banks, oligarchs and high-tech sectors, Biden said. The US and its allies will block assets of four large Russian banks, impose export controls and sanction oligarchs.

https://apnews.com/article/biden-putin-russia-sanctions-e7cf432771171840f7ed70542b891a6e

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10 hours ago, CzarnaWisnia said:

I'm not saying Ukraine should be excluded from discussing the possibility of being a neutral country, but for that to happen at all it needs to not be used by others as a proxy to exert power. Ukraine should first try to solve the civil war that's been going on on its territory for years. As for the military base, the Sebastopol naval base is roughly 1500 km from Moscow. In 1962, Russia placed missiles in Cuba. That was roughly the same distance from Washington DC. The US found that absolutely unacceptable, therefore the crisis that followed.

Ukraine has the right to live how they want. They are their own country and Russia has no right to dictate anything to them.  

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5 minutes ago, Jazzy Jan said:

Ukraine has the right to live how they want. They are their own country and Russia has no right to dictate anything to them.  

Obviously. It also has the right to be free from US interference.

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2 hours ago, Junior said:

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Putin is a power hungry dictator.  If people can’t see the resemblance to Hitler then we have not learned anything from history. He was never nipped in the bud so to speak when he cruelly and devastatingly took over countries around him. 

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3 minutes ago, Jazzy Jan said:

Again, you are always blaming USA.  

Broken record 

When, clearly, this situation has been condemned by almost every country on this planet, this is very laughable to still bring it to USA once again. But hey! Are you surprised? Same rhetoric from him since he posts on this forum. 

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3 minutes ago, CzarnaWisnia said:

Again, you always being blind to the US's involvement.

What is their involvment? They are part of UN and NATO, so they are sanctioning russia and send troops to the borders of NATO countries. Just as GB, Germany, France...

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2 minutes ago, lex92 said:

What is their involvment? They are part of UN and NATO, so they are sanctioning russia and send troops to the borders of NATO countries. Just as GB, Germany, France...

They are also selling tons of weapons to Ukraine, fuel to the fire to say the least.

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3 minutes ago, Nessie said:

They are also selling tons of weapons to Ukraine, fuel to the fire to say the least.

And? It's war. Ukraine needs to defend itself. Stupid enough that Germany once again in its moral bubble refuses to send weapons. People in Ukraine don't feel supported by Germany.

Same with Swift. Germany was the state to veto sanctioning Russia by excluding Russia from Swift-System, because they fear that the restrictions would be too hard for Germany. My god, they have to wake up. This is a war against the whole western order.

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5 minutes ago, Nessie said:

They are also selling tons of weapons to Ukraine, fuel to the fire to say the least.

Do you really believe all the shit you post on this forum? Just asking because every time I always think you’re joking. 
Fuel to the fire? It’s David against Goliath. If you don’t get that, I mean, where should we start to enlighten your lantern?

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Just now, runa said:

Do you really believe all the shit you post on this forum? Just asking because every time I always think you’re joking. 
Fuel to the fire? It’s David against Goliath. If you don’t get that, I mean, where should we start to enlighten your lantern?

Should i even care to respond to you in the same manner that you address me and others on this thread? I guess not. You are an uneducated troll that just don’t deserve a proper response.

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29 minutes ago, lex92 said:

And? It's war. Ukraine needs to defend itself. Stupid enough that Germany once again in its moral bubble refuses to send weapons. People in Ukraine don't feel supported by Germany.

Same with Swift. Germany was the state to veto sanctioning Russia by excluding Russia from Swift-System, because they fear that the restrictions would be too hard for Germany. My god, they have to wake up. This is a war against the whole western order.

If you throw weapons to this country that is waging a civil war you can bet that these weapons are being deployed in the eastern Ukraine to retake the separatists regions by force instead of self defense. 8 years of civil war, 13,000 people dead, most civilians, and not a single word in the West. Do you know what the Minsk agreement signed by Ukraine underlined? That those rebel regions were supposed to be granted authonomy. And what Kiev did? Sent neo nazis thugs to shell the rebel cities. That is what these weapons are being used for.

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Putin must be eliminated after all this. NATO ain't no saints but this man wants to do what Hitler wanted to do and there's no way he should go unscathed. He wants to go down in history and he will. Not like Stalin or Franco from old in their deathbeds but like Hitler or Mussolini. I wish it's the later. 

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Spy on spy - tense exchange a few days ago between the head of spy services and Putin during a security meeting about the Russian-controlled territories in east Ukraine. Head of spy nervously stuttering when questioned by his boss: either a great bluffer being a spy after all, or he clearly knows things about Putin that we don't and what he is capable of doing...

 

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17 minutes ago, ULIZOS said:

Not saying it's right, but ya'll mad at Russia for doing what the US and its loser friends do every day in every country in the world

Here is the list:


1948-1960 - Italy
1949 Syria
1949--1953 Albania
1953 Iran
1954 Guatemala
1957-1958 Indonesia
1959+ Cuba, Cambodia
1960 Congo
1961 Dominican
1963 Vietnam
1964 Brazil
1965-66 Indonesia
1971 Bolivia
1970-73 Chile, Irak
1976 Argentine
1979 Salvador, Lebanon
1979-89 Afghanistan
1980-82 Angola
1983 Grenada
1981-87 Nicaragua, Lybia
1989 Panama
1989 Chad
1990-91 Irak I
1993 Somalia
1995 Yugoslavia (the Lewinski distraction)
2001 Afghanistan
2003 Irak II
2001-2014 Ethiopia, Kenya, Liberia, Mauritius, Rwanda, Tanzania, Uganda, Algeria, Cameroon, Burkina Faso, Mali, Mauritania. Morocco, Niger, Nigeria, Senegal, Tunisia, Mali, Philippines, Kyrgyztan, 
2009 Colombia
2011 Lybia
2013-14 ISIS
2014 Ukraine - Maidan Revolution
2019 Iran - Iranian general Soleimani
2021 Mozambique


And more to come!

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After a video of an elected representative of the Socialist Progressive party of Ukraine and an interview with a University of Chicago awarded professor of political science who has thorough knowledge and expertise on this subject, here's some more documentation from a totally obscure and not credible at all source! 😄 #MeSoCrayzee 😜

 

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14 minutes ago, ULIZOS said:

Not saying it's right, but ya'll mad at Russia for doing what the US and its loser friends do every day in every country in the world

 

Yeah, maybe it's time for the US to get bombed and invaded too. For a change. 

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18 minutes ago, Nessie said:

Here is the list:


1948-1960 - Italy
1949 Syria
1949--1953 Albania
1953 Iran
1954 Guatemala
1957-1958 Indonesia
1959+ Cuba, Cambodia
1960 Congo
1961 Dominican
1963 Vietnam
1964 Brazil
1965-66 Indonesia
1971 Bolivia
1970-73 Chile, Irak
1976 Argentine
1979 Salvador, Lebanon
1979-89 Afghanistan
1980-82 Angola
1983 Grenada
1981-87 Nicaragua, Lybia
1989 Panama
1892 Chad
1990-91 Irak I
1993 Somalia
1995 Yugoslavia (the Lewinski distraction)
2001 Afghanistan
2003 Irak II
2001-2014 Ethiopia, Kenya, Liberia, Mauritius, Rwanda, Tanzania, Uganda, Algeria, Cameroon, Burkina Faso, Mali, Mauritania. Morocco, Niger, Nigeria, Senegal, Tunisia, Mali, Philippines, Kyrgyztan, 
2009 Colombia
2011 Lybia
2013-14 ISIS
2014 Ukraine - Maidan Revolution
2019 Iran - Iranian general Soleimani
2021 Mozambique


And more to come!

Again, the fact that US bombed a country doesn't excuse Putin bombing Ukraine. Please stay on the subject: Ukraine. As for Maidan riots: I do not think it was caused by US. I think not ratifying EU Association agreement was enough reason for the protests. Ukraine borders several EU states: Ukrainians are seeing that the EU countries are better off than Ukraine since joining EU. Half of Ukraine lives in EU. I d say wanting better economic life is a reason enough for those protests. Were they aided by US/EU? Sure. But I d really wanna see the logic to equate today RU aggression to Maidan protests. Its laughable. I have no time to check your lists, but if the examples are like Maidan protests... Well, its a joke list I guess?

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35 minutes ago, Nessie said:

Here is the list:


1948-1960 - Italy
1949 Syria
1949--1953 Albania
1953 Iran
1954 Guatemala
1957-1958 Indonesia
1959+ Cuba, Cambodia
1960 Congo
1961 Dominican
1963 Vietnam
1964 Brazil
1965-66 Indonesia
1971 Bolivia
1970-73 Chile, Irak
1976 Argentine
1979 Salvador, Lebanon
1979-89 Afghanistan
1980-82 Angola
1983 Grenada
1981-87 Nicaragua, Lybia
1989 Panama
1989 Chad
1990-91 Irak I
1993 Somalia
1995 Yugoslavia (the Lewinski distraction)
2001 Afghanistan
2003 Irak II
2001-2014 Ethiopia, Kenya, Liberia, Mauritius, Rwanda, Tanzania, Uganda, Algeria, Cameroon, Burkina Faso, Mali, Mauritania. Morocco, Niger, Nigeria, Senegal, Tunisia, Mali, Philippines, Kyrgyztan, 
2009 Colombia
2011 Lybia
2013-14 ISIS
2014 Ukraine - Maidan Revolution
2019 Iran - Iranian general Soleimani
2021 Mozambique


And more to come!

The list of war involving Russia since 1948 is longer than that. Who’s trolling now? :doh:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Russia

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26 minutes ago, elijah said:

Again, the fact that US bombed a country doesn't excuse Putin bombing Ukraine. Please stay on the subject: Ukraine. As for Maidan riots: I do not think it was caused by US. I think not ratifying EU Association agreement was enough reason for the protests. Ukraine borders several EU states: Ukrainians are seeing that the EU countries are better off than Ukraine since joining EU. Half of Ukraine lives in EU. I d say wanting better economic life is a reason enough for those protests. Were they aided by US/EU? Sure. But I d really wanna see the logic to equate today RU aggression to Maidan protests. Its laughable. I have no time to check your lists, but if the examples are like Maidan protests... Well, its a joke list I guess?

It is no joke to bomb countries, any country, no matter whatever political sphere you are part of. The point is the absolutely hypocrisy of the so called guardians of “freedom” pointing fingers, and a world outcry for the same thing they have been doing to other defenseless countries for the past 70 years.

If Putin should legally respond for this agression, should Obama be tried for crimes against humanity for Yemen, Somalia, Lybia, Irak, Afghanistan? Nixon for Vietnam? Carter and Reagan for Iran, Salvador, Nicaragua? Clinton for Yugoslavia?

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