Shan Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 I think it says a lot when people were like "Who's Nas?" Also there is a difference between: "I like the demo version of this track, I'm glad I have the opportunity to listen to it." And "OMG she ruined the album the demos were so much better. I don't know why people like the album as it is. Everyone knows the demos are better. You're just stupid if you think that shitty album versions are better than the demos. FACT! Fuck black people music! Demos!! Wahhhhhhhh!!!" Yeah I agree. People are way too angry and authoritarian over the demos. Some are definitely far too harsh on the chosen producers too. It's just weird how some fans have reacted this era overall. Some of them were really great before, and now, well...
5iVe Elements Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 We all should be happy we got the album and lots of demos! Pining over the demo "should be on the album" is futile because Madonna will not recall our copies of Rebel Heart and put back JOA acoustic, RH and WAOM Avicciii, or Inside Out demo to replace the album versions. The remixes this era are forgettable. The fact that we have demos we enjoy is something to be thankful for. Imagine not having them or even Never Let You Go or Trust No Bitch and you have no choice but to play the GT remixes over And over
Guest Pud Whacker Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 ^ arent we all happy that we have all that AND MORE?!!! we got demos, official, promo, performances, interviews, magazines... its endless.
Guest eroticerotic Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 i dunno yet. Confessions and Erotica are my top 2, that much I know,
VogueMusic Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 I just don't see how some of you can put super vintage, super dated sound albums over albums like American Life, Confessions and Rebel Heart! I think with each generation pop music gets more polished and perfected. Some of the 80s stuff is unbearable to listen to because of the amount of cheese!! But that's just my opinion so don't burn me please! Oh hell no. Good music is good music, no matter what era it comes from...and no matter what sound or production it may have. And as for "dated" being a put-down...that's some tired shit. If anything, it just means it's something that reflects that time period. It's not a bad thing whatsoever. If anything, all musicals sounds, even those of right now, will follow this same pattern as time goes on - something that, in some way, captured that period in time. Don't think that for one minute what you think is "timeless" or "current" right now won't all fall into that to some degree. And that's not a bad thing. I will NEVER understand the whole "dated" thing...everything and everyone ages. Madonna's 80's work is as much 'timeless' as it 'sounds like the 80's'. That's something to be celebrated and enjoyed. (As is true for any other music that stands the test of time, and reflects its respective era all the same).
Guest Medoner Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 ^ arent we all happy that we have all that AND MORE?!!! we got demos, official, promo, performances, interviews, magazines... its endless. This.
Moka Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 Also there is a difference between: "I like the demo version of this track, I'm glad I have the opportunity to listen to it." And "OMG she ruined the album the demos were so much better. I don't know why people like the album as it is. Everyone knows the demos are better. You're just stupid if you think that shitty album versions are better than the demos. FACT! Fuck black people music! Demos!! Wahhhhhhhh!!!"
Guest Pud Whacker Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 I think it comes down to the simple fact that most Madonna fans (particularly over a certain age) don't like "urban" music. Hence the constant argument about the demos being better as they are more traditionally "dance-pop" sounding. Seriously it's getting tiring either being told or having it implied that somehow I'm mistaken for liking the album. I don't care if you like the demos better, I don't care if you think it has too many tracks, I don't care if you think the sequencing is wrong, I don't care if you think there are too many rappers. I don't know why people find it so hard to accept the fact that people like the album as it is. thats been my public argument about Hard Candy since 2008. 3rd generation were weaned on anglo madonna. david foster, evita, orbit, price...they didnt know what hit them when timabaland came around. her old r&b tracks were so ancient at this time they became traditional pop.
VogueMusic Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 thats been my public argument about Hard Candy since 2008. 3rd generation were weaned on anglo madonna. david foster, evita, orbit, price...they didnt know what hit them when timabaland came around. her old r&b tracks were so ancient at this time they became traditional pop. Interesting point...
nick00 Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 For me personally, listen to several "black" artists, but don't think her more recent work with r&b and hip hop influences was as good or forward thinking as her "anglo" period. At the same time, M recent work with Orbit during MDNA was mostly very good, but probably not as magical to his earlier work with her. Want M to continue collaborating with other black artists along with Europeans. Very much enjoy the diversity and strong influences M brings to whatever she records. Makes her special
Guest Katypatra Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 Ok, so Rebel Heart is a solid album and everybody likes it. I don't think there are any Madonna fans who don't like it the same way some fans didn't like Hard Candy back in the day. I think Rebel Heart, for the most part, has been well received. Personally, I love it and it ranks as #1 for me. 1. Rebel Heart 2. American Life 3. Ray of Light 4. Confessions on the Dance Floor 5. Hard Candy 6. Music 7. Bedtime Stories 8. MDNA 9. Like a Prayer 10. Madonna That's my list of top 10
GOD Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 For me personally, listen to several "black" artists, but don't think her more recent work with r&b and hip hop influences was as good or forward thinking as her "anglo" period. At the same time, M recent work with Orbit during MDNA was mostly very good, but probably not as magical to his earlier work with her. Want M to continue collaborating with other black artists along with Europeans. Very much enjoy the diversity and strong influences M brings to whatever she records. Makes her special I dunno in my opinion there was no need to bring back Orbit. It worked for ROL and like a comet it came and gone.
Magrat Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 1. True Blue 2. Confessions on a Dancefloor 3. Like a Virgin 4. Madonna 5. Ray of Light 6. Like a Prayer 7. Music 8. American Life 9. Rebel Heart10. MDNA11. I`m Breathless12. Hard Candy13. Bedtime Stories14. Erotica
Hapertje Posted June 14, 2015 Posted June 14, 2015 1. Like a Prayer 2. American Life 3. Erotica 4. I'm Breathless 5. Rebel Heart 6. Confessions on a Dancefloor 7. Ray of Light 8. Music 9. Hard Candy 10. MDNA 11. Like a Virgin12. True Blue 13. Bedtime Stories14. Madonna
Guest Norig Posted June 14, 2015 Posted June 14, 2015 This is hard!! TRUE BLUE CONFESSIONS ON A DANCE FLOOR MADONNA / THE FIRST ALBUM LIKE A PRAYER REBEL HEART RAY OF LIGHT LIKE A VIRGIN MUSIC AMERICAN LIFE MDNA EROTICA HARD CANDY BEDTIME STORIES
Stephen Posted June 14, 2015 Posted June 14, 2015 I think it's safe to say that rebel heart is her fourth or fifth best album from the lists here...consistent rankings...amazing 30+ years in and her latest contributions aren't a camp event either
HolidayGuy Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 Not sure of a placement just yet, but I've listened to it again tonight. Strong effort- even the bonus tracks on Super Deluxe.
Torrique Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 01) Ray of Light 02) Confessions on a Dance Floor 03) American Life 04) Erotica 05) Rebel Heart 06) Like A Prayer 07) Bedtime Stories 08) Music 09) MDNA 10) True Blue 11) Madonna 12) Hard Candy 13) Like A Virgin
Donuts Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 By the time the tour is over,I have a feeling everyone is going to increase RH's rank on their list
DitaDolla Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 This is hard!! TRUE BLUE CONFESSIONS ON A DANCE FLOOR MADONNA / THE FIRST ALBUM LIKE A PRAYER REBEL HEART RAY OF LIGHT LIKE A VIRGIN MUSIC AMERICAN LIFE MDNA EROTICA HARD CANDY BEDTIME STORIES OMG Not Erotica and BS this low My heart stops for a sec!
runa Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 By the time the tour is over,I have a feeling everyone is going to increase RH's rank on their list It didn't happen with MDNA, even though a lot of people thought the tour was amazing
Jazzy Jan Posted June 17, 2015 Posted June 17, 2015 Listened to Rebel Heart all the way through today - yet again. I now have to say it is my favourite Madonna album ever. So many great songs - great melodies, lyrics and vocals. Love it so much.
Michael. Posted June 17, 2015 Posted June 17, 2015 It really is a great album!! It's so sad that it didn't do better. It really deserved to be a smash!
loowee Posted June 18, 2015 Posted June 18, 2015 This is about to overtake Bedtime Stories as my Top 4.....
mtsanis Posted June 18, 2015 Posted June 18, 2015 (edited) This is so hard, as I've been a fan since the beginning, and each album has a very specific connection to my life. Like A Prayer Confessions on a Dance Floor You Can Dance Madonna Bedtime Stories Music Rebel Heart Erotica American Life Ray of Light Like a Virgin Hard Candy I'm Breathless MDNA True Blue None of them lack in brilliance. Just different flavors. And for the record, I love love love Rebel Heart, and still listen to all 29 tracks (almost) daily, with no intention to stop any time soon. Edited June 18, 2015 by mtsanis
5iVe Elements Posted June 18, 2015 Posted June 18, 2015 This is so hard, as I've been a fan since the beginning, and each album has a very specific connection to my life. Like A Prayer Confessions on a Dance Floor You Can Dance Madonna Erotica Bedtime Stories Music Rebel Heart American Life Like a Virgin Hard Candy I'm Breathless MDNA True Blue None of them are even remotely lacking in brilliance. Just different flavors. And for the record, I love love love Rebel Heart, and still listen to all 29 tracks (almost) daily, with no intention to stop any time soon. dont worry. I still listen to RH but it ranks in the middle for me. She hasa great catalgoue it hard to rank them all!
mtsanis Posted June 18, 2015 Posted June 18, 2015 (edited) dont worry. I still listen to RH but it ranks in the middle for me. She hasa great catalgoue it hard to rank them all! And I just re-ranked them because it's so difficult! And I loooooove Hard Candy so much, and that ends up in the near bottom. Edited June 18, 2015 by mtsanis
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