karbatal Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 I'm sometimes divided about Mother and Father. I like it when Madonna does weird things and I like the song. But sometimes i feel that it had much more potential and could easily have been a hit, if they had worked it properly into another direction. Mother and Father has a good production, but lacks a bit of energy at first. Her voice doesnt' help there. I love the fact that she uses that eerie/creepy little girl voice there, a voice that shows the hysteria of a girl which world is falling apart. But if the lyrics had been different, more about accepting reality and looking for someone that she can care for... At the end of the song, when she sings "find somebody to loveeeee", you can hear that 80s Madonna in Ciconne/Bray songs. That direction could have been so great. 2003 was the year when the 80s were everywhere, Madonna even did that Into the Groove vs. Hollywood mashup. What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad_On_Her Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 I agree. I have a love hate relationship with Mother And Father. Some of the lyrics put me off the song, I think mostly the "rap". It's a good song, but the lyrics about her dad going to work and thinking he was a jerk type lyrics let it down. I actually laugh when I hear the rap. Good song but could have been much better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madonnasuperfan01 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 I think it's a good album track, i wouldn't change anything about it. It's a weird song that not everyone will love but i personally like it the way it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vogue992 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 I think it's a good album track, i wouldn't change anything about it. It's a weird song that not everyone will love but i personally like it the way it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 It was incredible live. I don't think it could ever have been a single, no matter how it was reworked, but I do love the "I got to give it up" hook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddykrueger86 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 It's mostly her high and shrill vocals and the friction with her back vocals in the stanzas that put me off. Then when the "I got to give it up, find someone to love me..." part kicks in the song becomes great. I would have loved softer vocals when she sings in the childish pitch at the end. It's all a bit much and too sharp for my ears to enjoy it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Cut out the rap and its great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzy Jan Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Cut out the rap and its great. Barney, the line returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 OH FFS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJM Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 I personally think it is perfect as is! I really like this song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 It's great as is. Nothing weird about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5iVe Elements Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 One of her best songs IMO. I guess the reason why I love it so much is because when I listened to AL, it gave me a Madonna shock (I wasn't a fan back then). I was very amazed with the songs and the album's direction as a whole after knowing only the popular Madonna singles. So perhaps, older fans preferred her old style of singing that's why they can't appreciate Mother and Father. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drunkbysix Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 I fell in love with the song when she did it on NBC. Brilliant vocals. I think it should have been recorded that way, more acoustic and have more simplicity, similar to X-static process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerGirl Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 I think it's perfection, and I have loved it ever since I heard it the first time. It's one of my favorite tracks from AL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal Coffin Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 older fans preferred her old style of singing that's why they can't appreciate Mother and Father. Don't even go there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bebe Glazer Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Amazing song but I just can't imagine it on the radio.. a bit like most songs on AL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5iVe Elements Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Don't even go there I meant fans who were already fans in earlier albums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horn Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 One of M most cringe-worthy song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frzndrwnwrld Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 I personally think it is perfect as is! I really like this song. Ditto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Gold Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 I love it! the rap is everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick00 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Agree like how it was recorded. I feel it's a somewhat of an unusual track, but that's part of the appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCHL Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 One of M most cringe-worthy song. Yes. She sounds like Adam Sandler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adreeyen Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Some of y'all are some kind of crazy. Mother & Father is one of Madonna's BEST songs. It's so vulnerable and I think the shrill vocal lends to that idea. It's got a great production that slowly builds up to an impressive finale. That last minute alone is so powerful, I feel it rushing in my bones! It was never made to be a hit. Not every song needs to be. It was meant to be an album track and it is a SUPERB one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndvd25 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I love everything about it. Fierce sounding and amazing beats. I always love the part when she starts to sing "i gotta give it up..." How i wish it was a single because i find the song catchy. But the lyrics has no universeal appeal that the gp can relate to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OscarCiccone Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 This song is perfection. The lyrics are so touching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluejean Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I love this song. It's definitely one of the catchiest songs on the album but I don't think it would have resonated with the public theme wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frzndrwnwrld Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 I love this song. It's definitely one of the catchiest songs on the album but I don't think it would have resonated with the public theme wise. I agree, but I would have really liked a video. What happened to that animated video that Robster was working on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadFan Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 The rap and indeed the whole song is written with a childlike vulnerability, "my father had to go to work I used to think he was a jerk", it's all very six years old. She was young when she died and uses that. It's not "Mer Girl". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frzndrwnwrld Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 The rap and indeed the whole song is written with a childlike vulnerability, "my father had to go to work I used to think he was a jerk", it's all very six years old. She was young when she died and uses that. It's not "Mer Girl". Yes, I think that was lost on a lot of people. Like any Madonna song, you have to dig beneath the surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerGirl Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 The rap and indeed the whole song is written with a childlike vulnerability, "my father had to go to work I used to think he was a jerk", it's all very six years old. She was young when she died and uses that. It's not "Mer Girl". Exactly, and that's what I love about it. She is talking about how she felt around the time her mother died, and right after comes this part which se sings with a softer, calmer voice (the adult her): I didn't know his heart was broken And not another word was spoken He became a shadow of The father I was dreaming of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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