HolidayGuy Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 Oh, Nelly. At least he noted that M did it her way, which contrasts from Miley. Miley has gotten people talking about her in a big way, but kinda early to make these kinds of comparisons. Will Miley replace Stefani Gaga as the "new Madonna"? http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.25754/title.nelly-compares-miley-cyrus-to-madonna During the interview, Nelly also compared the singer to Madonna. "Madonna, she did it her way, and she became one of the greatest female entertainers of all time," Nelly said. "Madonna grew up in the age of no social media. She wasn't under the type of scrutiny that Miley's under. Yeah, Miley twerked on stage at 20, but Madonna kissed two girls on stage at 50. Come on, man. Leave her alone."
Rugbyguy Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 She gets my vote with a blessing. Anything to flush Gaga
madonnasuperfan01 Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 Is that a sad joke? Miley is even more pathetic and try-hard than Gaga Miley is just doing pointless twerking shit for the sake of it, unlike Madonna. Comparing to 2 of them is beyond insulting, i almost prefer Gaga tbh.
dollhouse Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 Oh, Nelly. At least he noted that M did it her way, which contrasts from Miley. Miley has gotten people talking about her in a big way, but kinda early to make these kinds of comparisons. Will Miley replace Stefani Gaga as the "new Madonna"? http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.25754/title.nelly-compares-miley-cyrus-to-madonna During the interview, Nelly also compared the singer to Madonna. "Madonna, she did it her way, and she became one of the greatest female entertainers of all time," Nelly said. "Madonna grew up in the age of no social media. She wasn't under the type of scrutiny that Miley's under. Yeah, Miley twerked on stage at 20, but Madonna kissed two girls on stage at 50. Come on, man. Leave her alone." Gwen Stefani Gaga (pun intended)
realityisalways Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 Is that a sad joke? Miley is even more pathetic and try-hard than Gaga Miley is just doing pointless twerking shit for the sake of it, unlike Madonna. Comparing to 2 of them is beyond insulting, i almost prefer Gaga tbh. At least Miley is not obsessed with being number 1 and is not borderline psychotic, ANYONE over Gaga any day
neutrocks Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 Miley is obviously just having the time of her life and doing what SHE wants to do. And with all the press she's getting over her stunts, I say good on her. I appreciate that she isn't making excuses for what she does. She does it, and when asked about it, she has no shame to admitting that she's acting a fool for fun. She's highly entertaining and has put together pretty decent new album with much versatility to it. She seems to have a similar attitude Madonna has regarding her detractors and successfully grabbing enough attention to her music. I just laugh at the people who bad mouth her and call her slut and what not. Madonna got the same treatment and look where she's at. Yet, all at the same time, I think she's carving out her own milestones and not trying to copy anyone.
madonnasuperfan01 Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 At least Miley is not obsessed with being number 1 and is not borderline psychotic, ANYONE over Gaga any day You can't be serious. Miley is obviously obsessed with being n°1 like ALL the others popstars. Before We Can't Stop became a hit she said that "radio needed her music". And not borderline psychotic? Are you sure? She seems to be pretty much a psycho judging byt her desperate antics. Some of you guys shouldn't have this "anyone but Gaga" mentality. It's quite ridiculous since there's a LOT of shit artists who are as bad as Gaga and who have even less talent than her. Believe me i hate Gaga as much as you do but that doesn't mean i'm going to kiss the ass of some shitty "artist" just because he/she eclipsed Gaga in a way or another. Miley is pure pathetic trash and it's a fact. Her 2013 comeback is seriously one of the worst things that ever happened to music.
mangapop Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 You can't be serious. Miley is obviously obsessed with being n°1 like ALL the others popstars. Before We Can't Stop became a hit she said that "radio needed her music". And not borderline psychotic? Are you sure? She seems to be pretty much a psycho judging byt her desperate antics. Some of you guys shouldn't have this "anyone but Gaga" mentality. It's quite ridiculous since there's a LOT of shit artists who are as bad as Gaga and who have even less talent than her. Believe me i hate Gaga as much as you do but that doesn't mean i'm going to kiss the ass of some shitty "artist" just because he/she eclipsed Gaga in a way or another. Miley is pure pathetic trash and it's a fact. Her 2013 comeback is seriously one of the worst things that ever happened to music. Agree. Miley is only popular because she has become another music prostitute. It is annonying when people compare her to Madonna. Madonna was also showing her body, but when she was doing it she also was delivering great music. Miley is showing her body, because that is the only way she can top the charts.
Larkspur Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 It's annoying to me that people have a very narrow view of Madonna when comparing people to her. There will never be anyone just like Madonna but I will be very happy to see someone come along who is TRULY inspired by her. To be honest I don't think most get her.
neutrocks Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 Agree. Miley is only popular because she has become another music prostitute. It is annonying when people compare her to Madonna. Madonna was also showing her body, but when she was doing it she also was delivering great music. Miley is showing her body, because that is the only way she can top the charts. C'mon, who are you trying to convince here? You're talking to a Madonna fanbase. I don't get why you and others have to make this some kinda contest as if Madonna did it better. Certainly, as a fan we will favor Madonna, BUT.... trying to say Madonna did it, "delivering great music" is soooooooooo subjective. Not that I disagree. Though, the fact is a lot of people were saying similar things about Madonna back in the day, and still bash her today. A lot of people said Madonna's music was/is mediocre at best and she tramped up her image to get people to notice her. Madonna certainly had the ability to do it her way and not care what people think. Miley seems to be taking a page from Madonna whether it's intentional or just her style. Whatever the case, it's working, and I really don't see much beyond that comparison!
mangapop Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 (edited) People compare every female singer to Madonna, if they are sexually provocative. Yes, Madonna was also sexually provocative, but she always does it in a smart way. LAV at VMA'S - erotic elements Miley at VMA'S -pornography It is a huge difference. Edited October 11, 2013 by mangapop
mangapop Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 C'mon, who are you trying to convince here? You're talking to a Madonna fanbase. I don't get why you and others have to make this some kinda contest as if Madonna did it better. Certainly, as a fan we will favor Madonna, BUT.... trying to say Madonna did it, "delivering great music" is soooooooooo subjective. Not that I disagree. Though, the fact is a lot of people were saying similar things about Madonna back in the day, and still bash her today. A lot of people said Madonna's music was/is mediocre at best and she tramped up her image to get people to notice her. Madonna certainly had the ability to do it her way and not care what people think. Miley seems to be taking a page from Madonna whether it's intentional or just her style. Whatever the case, it's working, and I really don't see much beyond that comparison! Behind SEX book, there was music masterpice called Erotica. She has always doing great pop music. People accused her for selling albums through scandals, whhich isn't true. Many singers have to shock, because they make crap, and being provocative is the only way to stay on top. Madonna has always been a perfectionist. She didn't just make an album and then decide to show her vagina to the whole world...
neutrocks Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 People compare every female singer to Madonna, if they are sexually provocative. Yes, Madonna was also sexually provocative, but she always does it in a smart way. LAV at VMA'S - erotic elements Miley at VMA'S -pornography It is a huge difference. ROTFL.... Madonna doing "SEX" book. A lot of fans and Madonna will call it "art". Many others would call it "pornography". Look, I don't disagree that Miley isn't tramping up her image, but let's not pretend Madonna didn't either. I prefer to say she did it for "art", but good gosh, I really don't see much difference in what Miley is doing and what Madonna has been doing all these years to gain attention.
neutrocks Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 Behind SEX book, there was music masterpice called Erotica. She has always doing great pop music. People accused her for selling albums through scandals, whhich isn't true. Many singers have to shock, because they make crap, and being provocative is the only way to stay on top. Madonna has always been a perfectionist. She didn't just make an album and then decide to show her vagina to the whole world... And a lot of people has said that of Madonna as you say of Miley. My point... you obviously aren't a Miley fan. That's fine. But it's all subjective. To me, what Miley is doing now and what Madonna has done is quite similar. The difference is, it was MORE shocking when Madonna did it, because it wasn't something you normally saw of a Pop star at the time. Miley and any other female pop star doing it, will always be compared to Madonna because she pretty much paved the way for Miley and others to get away with it, and maybe try to push the envelope more. That's what Madonna did back then, and people pretty much said the same of Madonna as you say of Miley today.
mangapop Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 ROTFL.... Madonna doing "SEX" book. A lot of fans and Madonna will call it "art". Many others would call it "pornography". Look, I don't disagree that Miley isn't tramping up her image, but let's not pretend Madonna didn't either. I prefer to say she did it for "art", but good gosh, I really don't see much difference in what Miley is doing and what Madonna has been doing all these years to gain attention. SEX book was vulgar. Especially the texts. But that is the only great sexual thing she used to provoke. Maybe she has crossed the line... On the other hand, it wasn't pornography, it was erotica. Erotica is a mix of art and sex. Her book was shot in black and white, the pics have retro vibe... If some other singer would make Sex book, I doubt it would be like Madonna's. The artistic element would be missing. Miley at VMA'S - I have never seen Madonna on stage wanting dick so much... Miley was like a prostitute...
neutrocks Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 SEX book was vulgar. Especially the texts. But that is the only great sexual thing she used to provoke. Maybe she has crossed the line... On the other hand, it wasn't pornography, it was erotica. Erotica is a mix of art and sex. Her book was shot in black and white, the pics have retro vibe... If some other singer would make Sex book, I doubt it would be like Madonna's. The artistic element would be missing. Miley at VMA'S - I have never seen Madonna on stage wanting dick so much... Miley was like a prostitute... My point is that I don't disagree with what you say of Madonna, but the way you bash Miley is pretty much what people did of Madonna. A lot of connections were made with Marilyn Monroe and Madonna back in the 80's and most definitely the picture you paint of Madonna vs. Miley today was very similar how Madonna was compared/contrasted to Marilyn Monroe and previous pop/rock stars who were said to have done it better than Madonna. You obviously don't like Miley. Again, that's you're choice, but the truth is, Miley is doing very much what Madonna did, but maybe pushing it more further... as Madonna did back in the day. 30 years later, Madonna is far more respected in the music business and now every little pop princess that comes along that tries to cross the boundaries gets compared to Madonna. Most of them get criticized/bashed just like Madonna. And sorry to say, but Madonna was called a "tramp" long before the Sex/Erotica album. It was officially made in '90 when she did "Justify My Love", but even in the mid 80's, she was referred to being something similar.
neutrocks Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 Miley at VMA'S - I have never seen Madonna on stage wanting dick so much... Miley was like a prostitute... I think you're taking what Miley did a little too seriously. She was just acting silly and having fun. Calling Miley a "prostitute" is a bit extreme and pretty hilarious coming from a MADONNA fan when all through the 80's, Madonna was criticized how she was dressed (or not dressed) and parading around half naked in her videos. The VMA's aren't the Grammys or Oscars. Outrageous stuff is expected on that show. The 80's and early 90's was full of that. Ever since that, it seems an act is always using the VMA's to do something outrageous. Miley managed to grab the most attention. This performance will be one of the few performances in the last ten years which will always be talked about, much like Madonna's first VMA performance and the kiss with Brit and Christina, and many other stunts throughout the years.
mangapop Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 I think you're taking what Miley did a little too seriously. She was just acting silly and having fun. Calling Miley a "prostitute" is a bit extreme and pretty hilarious coming from a MADONNA fan when all through the 80's, Madonna was criticized how she was dressed (or not dressed) and parading around half naked in her videos. The VMA's aren't the Grammys or Oscars. Outrageous stuff is expected on that show. The 80's and early 90's was full of that. Ever since that, it seems an act is always using the VMA's to do something outrageous. Miley managed to grab the most attention. This performance will be one of the few performances in the last ten years which will always be talked about, much like Madonna's first VMA performance and the kiss with Brit and Christina, and many other stunts throughout the years. I wouldn't call it silly. Madonna has taste, even her images of sex in the videos were sophisticated in some way. Miley was like a porn character on the stage...It simply wasn't just provocative. It wasn't for the tv at all.
madonnasuperfan01 Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 I can't believe a Madonna fan is saying that what Miley is doing is similar to what Madonna was doing back then. I just can't believe it. Madonna actually had a MESSAGE behindmost of her shock antics. All Miley is doing is showing her ass just for the sake of being a slut. That's a big difference and i think any Madonna fan should know that. Actually the fact that Miley has any fan at all is quite shocking tbh. Who can really be a fan of that mess? Most of them are just bandwagoners because she started slaying again, that's all. Nobody were here for her during the CBT era but suddenly everyone is here for her again and actually ACCLAIMING her?? It's just so obvious, as much as Interscope's payola for Applause in the US.
mangapop Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 I can't believe a Madonna fan is saying that what Miley is doing is similar to what Madonna was doing back then. I just can't believe it. Madonna actually had a MESSAGE behindmost of her shock antics. All Miley is doing is showing her ass just for the sake of being a slut. That's a big difference and i think any Madonna fan should know that. Actually the fact that Miley has any fan at all is quite shocking tbh. Who can really be a fan of that mess? Most of them are just bandwagoners because she started slaying again, that's all. Nobody were here for her during the CBT era but suddenly everyone is here for her again and actually ACCLAIMING her?? It's just so obvious, as much as Interscope's payola for Applause in the US. Agree.
SkyHigh76 Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 I find that Miley,and other young female pop stars,are just doing this stuff to get attention.There's no purpose,no deeper meaning to what they're doing.When Madonna was doing these things (in the Erotica/Sex era),she was trying to make a statement.She was trying to tear down stereotypes,break down taboos,and empower people to express themselves sexually,with no shame.She was on a MISSION. Miley is just being nasty,just to be nasty.
SkyHigh76 Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 I can't believe a Madonna fan is saying that what Miley is doing is similar to what Madonna was doing back then. I just can't believe it. Madonna actually had a MESSAGE behind most of her shock antics. All Miley is doing is showing her ass just for the sake of being a slut. That's a big difference and i think any Madonna fan should know that. Exactly! This is the point I was trying to make in my post above.
Kilt Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 the only thing that is similar is the reaction/ shock value
madonnasuperfan01 Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 Exactly! This is the point I was trying to make in my post above. :thumbsup: It was already bad enough to see "artists" like Gaga and Britney being compared to Madonna but now if we had to add Miley... No, just NO.
uglybitch Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 VMA happened in August and you are still talking about it
BrokenButterfly Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 She's more like Pink during the LAFace era. She's not most girls, she just wants real love. I didn't even watch the VMAs but her party girl shock value and "sexiness" is lost on me completely. Part of the problem is that she's entirely too much like her father, a giant cheeseball.
IsaacHarris Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 Yuck @ anyone preferring Miley to Gaga. In fact, fuck em both. Neither are Beyonce
mangapop Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 (edited) Yuck @ anyone preferring Miley to Gaga. In fact, fuck em both. Well said. Edited October 11, 2013 by mangapop
Guest bluejean Posted October 12, 2013 Posted October 12, 2013 He forgot to mention that Miley isn't anywhere near as good as Madonna
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