Guest Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Wow. You seriously think the welfare state is more entrenched now than it was in 1973? Are you for real? That is ridiculously ignorant. At no point have I claimed to be an 'authority' on anything. Reading 'media' doesn't make one so and knowing someone from a particular country doesn't make one so. Did you read the linked to piece? If you did you'll see that the majority of the welfare bill goes on pensioners and people in work. Oops. And you didn't even grasp the 1973 point - unemployment was at its lowest yet levels of benefit were far, far higher than they are now. That alone blows a hole in your theory that people choose to take benefits rather than work. Can you provide me with the data of 1973? I didn't realise you were meaning the countrywide spend. I thought you were talking the individual payment per person. I read the linked to piece and didn't see anything factually convincing. It didn't inform me of anything new and I don't regret anything about the Olympics at all. I loved it. I'm not angry at pensioners or people working because they are or have in some way contributed to the country. State pensions are small (to say the least) and deserved. People who worked all of their lives deserve that and every one of those people having 7 or 8 children and then unnecessarily claiming benefits is taking that away from them. That's my point. These people will live their lives without contributing any taxes and when they're in their sixties will be complaining about lack of pensions/retirement age. I mean you actually get these people going on tv to say that they claim benefits rather than work because they're better off. If that's the case then don't have children. It's a selfish and lazy way of thinking. Shameful, lazy and just downright deplorable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debord Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Can you provide me with the data of 1973? I didn't realise you were meaning the countrywide spend. I thought you were talking the individual payment per person. I read the linked to piece and didn't see anything factually convincing. It didn't inform me of anything new and I don't regret anything about the Olympics at all. I loved it. I'm not angry at pensioners or people working because they are or have in some way contributed to the country. State pensions are small (to say the least) and deserved. People who worked all of their lives deserve that and every one of those people having 7 or 8 children and then unnecessarily claiming benefits is taking that away from them. That's my point. These people will live their lives without contributing any taxes and when they're in their sixties will be complaining about lack of pensions/retirement age. I mean you actually get these people going on tv to say that they claim benefits rather than work because they're better off. If that's the case then don't have children. It's a selfish and lazy way of thinking. Shameful, lazy and just downright deplorable. The data is linked in the blog, which you read. People having 7 or 8 kids and claiming benefits - you're telling me your rhetoric isn't influenced by tabloids?! You do realise that such cases are a tiny, tiny minority, right? 3.4% of people claiming benefits, in fact, have 4 or more children. Only 0.3% of unemployment claimants come from a family where their parents were also unemployed and 33% of those people were unemployed for less than a year. The % we spend on benefits for working-age people hasn't changed since the early 80s - the rise in the welfare bill is almost entirely accounted for by an ageing population meaning more and longer pension paymens. More facts which you will no doubt find 'unconvincing'. There's a reason the media parades the tiny, tiny minority of sensationalist stories in front of everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pasqual Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 this project is soooo overrated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rachelle of London Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Can you provide me with the data of 1973? I didn't realise you were meaning the countrywide spend. I thought you were talking the individual payment per person. I read the linked to piece and didn't see anything factually convincing. It didn't inform me of anything new and I don't regret anything about the Olympics at all. I loved it. I'm not angry at pensioners or people working because they are or have in some way contributed to the country. State pensions are small (to say the least) and deserved. People who worked all of their lives deserve that and every one of those people having 7 or 8 children and then unnecessarily claiming benefits is taking that away from them. That's my point. These people will live their lives without contributing any taxes and when they're in their sixties will be complaining about lack of pensions/retirement age. I mean you actually get these people going on tv to say that they claim benefits rather than work because they're better off. If that's the case then don't have children. It's a selfish and lazy way of thinking. Shameful, lazy and just downright deplorable. GU...it's not even worth it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aorlaan Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Yall should make a thread in the politic section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pressston Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 The eye teaser immediately makes me think of the Black Madonna concept (initial concept of Hard candy) which was a photo shoot by Klein of Madonna painted in black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 btw....i spent more than an hour to upload pics on the lounge section for mr. 12:69....could someone, kindly, repost the link of the Klein thing again....it's lost on pages and pages ago......between delirium and Gugu (surprisingly) wisdom....(well....until he said Cameron is better than Obama.....whatever.....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 i forgot this: "??" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genevieve Vavance Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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blossom Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 strange teaser. it is then a Klein project with Madonna rather than other way round i take it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 btw....i spent more than an hour to upload pics on the lounge section for mr. 12:69....could someone, kindly, repost the link of the Klein thing again....it's lost on pages and pages ago......between delirium and Gugu (surprisingly) wisdom....(well....until he said Cameron is better than Obama.....whatever.....) Why are you surprised that I'm wise? Stronzetta piccolo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonski43 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 strange teaser. it is then a Klein project with Madonna rather than other way round i take it I'm wondering if it's two separate projects all together! Everything seems so muddled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coco Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 teaser looks fanmade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWAD Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 I thought the reason for a teaser was to get you excited for a project. This video does absolutely zero and does not excite at all. It reminds of the eyes used in the "Bedtime Story" video interlude during the Re-Invention World Tour. If this is anything to go by then Klein really is a one-trick-pony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rachelle of London Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 The reason why we're not excited over the teaser is because Steven Klien keeps on going on about how great its gonna be...could you imagine if wem hardly knew anything about the Secret Project..Madonna posting those pics on Instagram and that teaser video came from nowhere...would be epic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 could someone post the link of the teaser? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rachelle of London Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Here you go Vande! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Why are you surprised that I'm wise? Stronzetta piccolo! i imagine you wanted to say "piccolo stronzetto" and i better not answer your question... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Here you go Vande! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 uhmmmmmmmmmmmmm what's that red thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck82 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 (edited) More! More! More! Yes please :-) /> Edited March 21, 2013 by madonnamexico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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magom Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 What the fuck is that teaser??? that's much like this thing (which shows / means nothing) http://s246.photobucket.com/user/feedback96/media/jkl-1.gif.html#/user/feedback96/media/jkl-1.gif.html?&_suid=136389371812609382666394983996 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gang bang Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 A Gang bang video ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camacho Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 More! More! More! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck82 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Ay! Damelo todo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikki Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 What the fuck is that teaser??? that's much like this thing (which shows / means nothing) http://s246.photobuc...382666394983996 well where did you find it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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