MeravA Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 I don't get it !Rio looked PACKED and it was a huge stadium, I'm so confused! I'm also wondering about Miami numbers. I guess the numbers are after all the refunds Is it safe to go with Billboard over Pollstar ? If it is then the QUEEN OF LIFE will hit the 300,000 million mark! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apples388 Posted January 2, 2013 Author Share Posted January 2, 2013 Yes - Billboard is always the more reliable source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat.Guy Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat.Guy Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Brazil's panel: Look to the gross revenue comparison! S&S had 1 more show and just 2 million dollars more! Average per show in 2008: 4,556,891 Average per show in 2012: 5,085,325 That's what I'm talking about huge priced tickets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeravA Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 WOW!!! What has changed in Brazil? Why the high prices? Over 20 fucking million dollars only in Brazil I can't believe she made 'only' 15 million in Sao Paulo with close to 200,000 people in attendance for S&S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat.Guy Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 What changed was the motherfucking producer's greed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whyme? Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 I'm stunned at the $14 million total for Columbia! What were the ticket prices there? Only a few cities from sticky and sweet managed to get that high from just two shows (like London, Paris, and Tel Aviv) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXL Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 I am stunned at the top price for Mexico City being $750 WOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXL Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 She never toured South Africa You're right for some reason I thought she did with the Girlie Show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pasqual Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 and what all the stupid haters say now? :D :D she get ill but she fill her pockets nicely now it is time for second leg with 20 more dates and she s on top of herself fuck the sticky this tour was more about madonna..it deserves to be the most sellingone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 The press reported 100,000 ppl in attendance for both shows in Bs As, tickets costed twice as much as they did in 2008. Cordoba's tickets were cheaper, close to 45,000 people attended the show. I think it will brake the 300M mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gang bang Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 is MDNA tour the most succesful tour by a female artist in US ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightshade Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Wow, Colombia (and even Mexico) really delivered!! Way to go, Latin America!! I want to say I feel confident she will pass $300 million, especially with higher prices and Buenos Aires yet to be reported. However, Chile's numbers could be lower than expected, and Cordoba is a wild card. However, we cannot deny this tour was a straight up killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rl89639 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 The total attendance so far is 2,027,361. Some of the totals in the previous posts are off a by a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nixed Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Looking at South America numbers, it does make much more BUSINESS sense to tour the Latin American countries than Asia/Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apples388 Posted January 3, 2013 Author Share Posted January 3, 2013 Looking at South America numbers, it does make much more BUSINESS sense to tour the Latin American countries than Asia/Australia. It does but you cannot deny that her numbers are down from Sticky and Sweet. There is a danger in oversaturating the market. Targeted dates for the next tour please and no oversaturation like she did with Europe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXL Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 I don't get it ! Rio looked PACKED and it was a huge stadium, I'm so confused! It was the same with Nice and other places. Nice was visibly packed to capacity for anyone who attended that concert in the flesh (others who weren't phisically there should just refrain from debating whether it was packed or not) . Yet the MDNA Nice gig had a 29,000 Boxscore figure and its S&S previous Charles Ehrman equivalent was at 42,000. Which makes no sense at all in terms of visual evidence. Some people have yet to grasp the concept that all these Billboard figures are not representative of actual attendance but rather of a benchmark expected attendance set out months in advance by the promoter and disclosed to Billboard as a reference point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXL Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Looking at South America numbers, it does make much more BUSINESS sense to tour the Latin American countries than Asia/Australia. It does really make sense to tour South America but definitely an Australasia appearance would be anything but detrimental for her Concert Reputation. This is what a recent Coldplay appearance looked like: Coldplay, The Temper Trap, The Pierces @ Allianz Stadium Sydney, Australia Nov. 17-18, 2012 Revenue: $10,703,300 Tickets sold: 92,717 /92,717l Keep in mind that they have lower ticket prices and that Madonna hasn't been there in 20 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apples388 Posted January 3, 2013 Author Share Posted January 3, 2013 Okay, but surely that will mean the actual revenue from the tour will be higher than that published by Billboard (and indeed Pollstar). Would that not conflict with tax declaration etc.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXL Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Okay, but surely that will mean the actual revenue from the tour will be higher than that published by Billboard (and indeed Pollstar). Would that not conflict with tax declaration etc.? The IRS doesn't look for data at Billboard. They look into bank accounts and what any private individual/organisation declares. This is just journalism/showbiz stuff, hardly a legal reference point for any tax collector. It just gives a measure of which tours and to what degree were more or less successfull. Much like the IRS obviously doesn't look into Forbes to ascertain the net worth or how much taxable any celebrity might be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apples388 Posted January 3, 2013 Author Share Posted January 3, 2013 That's a beautiful picture! Is that Rio? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whyme? Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Could it be that the stages in the Nice concerts were placed in different spots, therefore allowing more people in the SS tour to fit in? Why don't you just send an email to billboard and find out the truth once and for all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apples388 Posted January 3, 2013 Author Share Posted January 3, 2013 I think Rio especially seems a bit funny because apparently local media had reported 60,000+ attendance. That is quite the discrepancy from the reported number. Whyme?'s suggestion of emailing Billboard to inquire about that seems quite reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolidayGuy Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Media reports following a show aren't exactly the most reputable to go by- why it's always wise to wait for the official figures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apples388 Posted January 3, 2013 Author Share Posted January 3, 2013 I agree, HG, but usually media reports are more or less similar to the final figures and if they are off, they'd be off by a few thousand attendees - which was not the case for Rio: it's double the number of attendees! I'm just basing it on what fans are saying obviously; I've not actually read the local Brazilian media reports. What I do know is that, whilst the MDNA Tour did much better business than the shambolic Gaga stint in South America, it still wasn't as big as they had hoped it would be. And I think this will have major repercussions on her next tour - I'm expecting much fewer South American dates next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nessie Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 It is really weird indeed. I could swear i saw more people in the Rio pics than in the SP shows. The media reported 60k people. How can it be half of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apples388 Posted January 3, 2013 Author Share Posted January 3, 2013 To be honest, that looks more like 30-40,000 than 60,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal1974 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Whoever updated the Wikipedia page has got it wrong. Really underestimated the numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horn Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 She never toured South Africa She may flop there 'cos there's too many floppita's fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Could it be that the stages in the Nice concerts were placed in different spots, therefore allowing more people in the SS tour to fit in? Why don't you just send an email to billboard and find out the truth once and for all :)/> This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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