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Now folks - remember Mariah's folly when you insist that Madonna's numbers are low due to her lack of promotion. Mariah promoted everywhere and it did not help her - and even if Obsessed didn't go top five, it's still a popular song and people know it - so, to suggest that Madonna would do better if she had a bigger hit song is also off the mark. When you're an established artist, the people who are interested in buying your music will buy it. Occasionally you may drum up some new fans, but at 20 years in the industry (for both ladies), converts are rare.

The only real exception is a huge breakdown and then a built-up comeback - ala Whitney, Britney, and Mariah with the Mimi album. So unless Madonna has a huge fall from grace, there is no comeback which means there is no media interest which means no big hit albums.

I still disagree. There was much nostalgia to mine with this GH package.People over 40- those that were growing up in her heyday but lost since left the Madonna train- would be very interested in this. They even like many of her newer stuff. She could really have whipped up a great deal of excitement and played on nostalgis. It would have worked.

Mariah's promotions was bad so it is no surprise her records sales reflected that.

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Lambs are now hoping for:

1. SS figure will be different so that another Prince VS Keith Urban miracles to happen

2. Turn their table around and rooting for Babs, whom they had been dissing before the hits results, to get her 9th #1 (if SS is different) so that Madge can't tie with her if her next album goes #1

3. Mimi will hold up steadily in order to have another shot at #1 on its 2nd week (They need to move on from TEOM seriously)

4. The remix MOAIA album will have a chance to get a #1

:chuckle:

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Mariah's promotions was bad so it is no surprise her records sales reflected that.

I think Mariah did a healthy amount of promotion, but as iTunes indicated, nothing on this album (as far as "Obsessed" or "IWKWLI" are concerned) was runaway hit material. The overall marketing strategy was poor - she performed on Oprah (a sales magnet) TWO WEEKS before her album even dropped. She did her husband's show back in August. Two much drive was put behind the singles and not the album. Who wants this shit stain of an album when you've already downloaded the two tracks arguably worth owning?

I suspect this album will struggle to cross 500k in the US. Forget about 1 million - it *might* hit that worldwide but even that will be a stretch. Her second biggest market - Japan - is not showing love for this album either.

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I forgot about that one! It scanned something like 1.1-1.2 million in the US. Is it certified for 3xplatinum yet?

:lmao: that´s so true...

the only scary thing about mariah´s situation is that she did eveyrthing that she was supposed to do in orther to have a successful album.Anyway, a top 3 position is not that bad, rememeber that is a busy week, and even great albums like >Bedtime stories charted at number 3...the interesting will be how her next singles work andn if they help the album.

the most importantbthing about this week, more than mariah not being number 1 or madonna´s top ten , is barbra´s success! but the album is really good, so it´s hardly a surprise

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Billboard has just announced that Barbra Streisand's album Love is the Answer debuts at #1 on the US charts. More information to follow.

from: The Official Barbra Streisand Site

http://www.barbrastreisand.com/us/home

Oh no...Babs now pulls ahead by 2 for most No.1 albums by a female artist.

Let's hope that Paramore are No.2 and Mimi is at No.3 (or even lower...muah ha ha).

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I figured some sales of Babs album woudn't be included in the hits predictions because it was being plugged at more unconventional outlets as well such as QVC that soundscan tracks but not hits. Good job for Babs.

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yeah, the least of this is "Babs pulling ahead of M by 2 #1 albums lol". Not the best news, but the least of it. Point is, Mariah simply had her release date changed to BEAT both Babs and Madonna! Shes very, very aware that Barbra holds the lead, so she was trying and *expecting* to make a point - that shes more popular than them and will be leave them both in the dust with #1 albums lol. Smack in the face of humble lamb pie. Good for Barbra! 4get about Mariah at this point. The one I could see surpassing the record is actually Britney Spears!! lol. Shes only 28 and already has like 5#1 albums. Well, at least Babs is more ahead now! Ill take her over Mimoo and Britney lol ANYday!

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70k is good enough, considering the promo level, and i-tunes "cherry picking" factors. Hopefully, the second week drop wont knock M out of the top 100 albums. The i-tunes adds have been taken down so the free-fall there has begun. Any word on the release of revolver? Basically there is 7 weeks till the thanksgiving weekend sales here in the US, so hopefully the album can float along until then so it wil be able to ride the christmas wave.

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Can't find any info on Billboard. How sure are they?

Billboard won't be updating for at least 3 more hours.

It's possible Barbra's record label already checked the final SoundScan numbers. Those are already available for subscribers, I remember the Keith Urban vs Prince thing, somebody posted the numbers very early but nobody believed them until Billboard itself updated with the same exact numbers.

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YIKES for Mimi a Geriatric lady beat her to the number 1 spot @ billboard. But seriously apart from Madonna's Celebration I also supported Babs by buying her new album, I think her album is very good and she sounds way good still after all these years...Still like Butter lol

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bks from Pulse

BILLBOARD HOT DIGITAL SONGS - TOP 50

1 1 CYRUS*MILEY PARTY IN THE U.S.A. 176578 -3 182273 1505795

2 2 DERULO*JASON WHATCHA SAY 162622 3 158116 937290

5 3 SEAN*JAY FEAT. LIL WAYNE DOWN 127990 -5 134294 1520556

3 4 BLACK EYED PEAS I GOTTA FEELING 125739 -9 138750 3229310

13 5 OWL CITY FIREFLIES 124865 83 68392 386488

4 6 LADY GAGA PAPARAZZI 124126 -9 137143 730609

6 7 JAY-Z, RIHANNA & KANYE WEST RUN THIS TOWN 120046 -8 130660 1126038

7 8 JAY-Z + ALICIA KEYS EMPIRE STATE OF MIND 107938 -17 129979 486252

14 9 CAREY*MARIAH OBSESSED 82627 24 66746 958737

49 10 GLEE CAST SOMEBODY TO LOVE 77799 166 29245 107044

9 11 DRAKE, KANYE WEST, LIL WAYNE & FOREVER 74596 -22 95501 345978

23 12 IYAZ REPLAY 67048 51 44408 266039

8 13 UNDERWOOD*CARRIE COWBOY CASANOVA 65816 -40 110236 176052

11 14 SWIFT*TAYLOR YOU BELONG WITH ME 60158 -18 73306 2061078

10 15 KINGS OF LEON USE SOMEBODY 58912 -28 81497 2243298

12 16 SHAKIRA SHE WOLF/LOBA 57966 -16 69380 822140

17 17 BEYONCE SWEET DREAMS 56278 4 54048 482941

15 18 BIEBER*JUSTIN ONE TIME 55837 -5 58978 556170

18 19 FRANTI*MICHAEL & SPEARHEAD SAY HEY (I LOVE YOU) 54599 1 54031 692714

-- 20 GLEE CAST ALONE 52129 999 0 52129

25 21 GUETTA*DAVID FEAT. AKON SEXY CHICK 51820 18 44003 338500

19 22 PITBULL HOTEL ROOM SERVICE 48769 -9 53682 915154

27 23 LADY ANTEBELLUM NEED YOU NOW 48689 14 42845 254148

16 24 COBRA STARSHIP FEAT. LEIGHTON GOOD GIRLS GO BAD 45859 -16 54721 1321942

21 25 CLARKSON*KELLY ALREADY GONE 43737 -7 47144 433609

50 26 BLACK EYED PEAS MEET ME HALFWAY 42019 51 27887 131874

24 27 BOYS LIKE GIRLS LOVE DRUNK 41853 -5 44159 751578

20 28 GREEN DAY 21 GUNS 40540 -16 48142 863835

26 29 BLACK EYED PEAS BOOM BOOM POW 38780 -11 43419 4232878

30 30 CASCADA EVACUATE THE DANCEFLOOR 38130 1 37570 329212

22 31 BEYONCE SINGLE LADIES (PUT A RING ON I 37569 -17 45086 3113688

31 32 BROWN*ZAC BAND TOES 35246 -6 37364 481198

42 33 DEAN*ESTER FEAT. CHRIS BROWN DROP IT LOW 34940 12 31253 108349

43 34 FLO RIDA FEAT. NE-YO BE ON YOU 34123 10 31133 350573

37 35 CAILLAT*COLBIE FALLIN' FOR YOU 34021 0 33926 701698

29 36 ALDEAN*JASON BIG GREEN TRACTOR 33478 -11 37577 733715

88 37 GLEE CAST DON'T STOP BELIEVIN' 33279 101 16534 477057

-- 38 PARAMORE CAREFUL 33162 999 0 33162

28 39 KINGSTON*SEAN FIRE BURNING 31269 -23 40516 1906607

35 40 LMFAO LA LA LA 31230 -11 35049 170874

59 41 GOMEZ*SELENA & THE SCENE FALLING DOWN 30571 17 26236 158948

53 42 KINGSTON*SEAN FACE DROP 30328 11 27425 108692

47 42 JEREMIH IMMA STAR (EVERYWHERE WE ARE) 30328 2 29603 311334

34 44 JAY-Z FEAT MR. HUDSON YOUNG FOREVER 29998 -14 35080 160578

41 45 UNCLE KRACKER SMILE 29612 -8 32183 305907

36 46 DRAKE BEST I EVER HAD 29241 -16 34751 1447766

39 47 PITBULL I KNOW YOU WANT ME (CALLE OCHO 28709 -14 33342 1981626

33 48 DRAKE FEAT. TREY SONGZ & LIL W SUCCESSFUL 28147 -22 35983 113472

-- 49 GLEE CAST MAYBE THIS TIME 27428 999 0 27428

38 50 DRAKE FEAT. LIL WAYNE I'M GOING IN 27355 -19 33740 113578

44 50 SPARKS*JORDIN BATTLEFIELD 27355 -12 30994 1025772

A FEW BONUSES:

60 56 3OH!3 FEAT. KATY PERRY STARSTRUKK 26338 1 26196 695427

78 58 PINK FUNHOUSE 25989 36 19068 145791

93 63 ALLEN*KRIS LIVE LIKE WE'RE DYING 23552 49 15755 39307

95 64 CAREY*MARIAH I WANT TO KNOW WHAT LOVE IS 23338 51 15437 66021

-- 66 MARIAH CAREY BETCHA GON' KNOW (THE PROLOGUE 22398 999 0 22398

-- 72 GOMEZ*SELENA & THE SCENE NATURALLY 20608 999 0 20608

-- 74 FOO FIGHTERS WHEELS 20490 999 0 20490

-- 77 GLEE CAST LAST NAME (GLEE CAST VERSION) 20061 999 0 20061

147 78 OWL CITY VANILLA TWILIGHT 19865 109 9496 99090

79 80 JOURNEY DON'T STOP BELIEVIN' 19280 5 18411 3118893

102 82 TRAIN HEY, SOUL SISTER 18739 38 13552 79290

100 87 LMFAO FEAT. LIL JON SHOTS 17794 27 14036 120245

-- 97 MARINA*ANYA SATELLITE HEART 15098 999 0 15098

155 99 BIRDMAN FEAT DRAKE & LIL WAYNE MONEY TO BLOW 14707 61 9161 58975

-- 105 LAMBERT*MIRANDA WHITE LIAR 13324 999 0 13324

176 109 ARCADE FIRE WAKE UP 12497 55 8040 140280

-- 114 MADONNA REVOLVER 11981 999 0 11981

165 116 KE$HA TIK TOK 11816 38 8570 40362

194 118 MCCARTNEY*JESSE BODY LANGUAGE 11603 55 7467 93850

76 124 KEYS*ALICIA DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING 11260 -43 19726 30986

-- 126 THE USED SOMETHING SAFE [DEMO] 11019 999 0 11019

-- 131 MCLACHLAN*SARAH ONE DREAM 10476 999 8 10484

-- 136 MADONNA CELEBRATION 10035 80 5560 116517

-- 142 ZOLCIAK*KIM TARDY FOR THE PARTY 9716 64 5935 22967

169 152 KELLY*R. FEAT. KERI HILSON NUMBER ONE 9124 10 8322 82713

-- 169 STEVENSPUSSYCAT IF YOU WANT TO SING OUT, SING 8547 22 7024 99519

-- 179 OWL CITY HELLO SEATTLE 8229 58 5204 136189

-- 186 HEAP*IMOGEN HIDE AND SEEK 7954 12 7108 721795

-- 191 HEART ALONE 7823 386 1610 494538

Plus, Madonna "I'm Sorry" sold 4,737. [i guess he means It's So Cool?]

Here's how Hot 100 Airplay ended up before recurrents were removed:

No. 1 - Jay Sean / Lil Wayne (+6.1 million)

No. 2 - Taylor Swift (-3.1 million)

No. 3 - Jay Z / Rihanna / Kanye (+11.7 million)

No. 4 - Black Eyed Peas (-12.3 million)

No. 6 - Mariah Carey (-7.3 million)

No. 7 - Jason Derulo (+10.4 million)

No. 8 - Mario (+2.6 million)

No. 9 - Miley Cyrus (+7.7 million)

No. 10 - Lady Gaga (+15.7 million)

No. 11 - Beyonce (+14.5 million)

No. 16 - Flo Rida / Ne-Yo (-3.4 million)

No. 24 - Drake / Kanye / Lil Wayne / Eminem (+7.7 million)

No. 27 - Colbie Cailat (+3.0 million)

No. 31 - Jay Z / Alicia Keys (+11.9 million)

No. 37 - Carrie Underwood (+4.6 million)

No. 38 - Kelly Clarkson (+4.6 million)

No. 39 - Boys Like Girls (+4.0 million)

No. 40 - Michael Franti / Spearhead (+2.6 million)

No. 41 - Black Eyed Peas (+5.5 million)

No. 47 - Alicia Keys (+5.1 million)

No. 54 - R Kelly / Keri Hilson (+2.6 million)

No. 56 - Ester Dean / Chris Brown (+1.0 million)

No. 61 - Taylor Swift (+3.0 million) Fifteen

No. 62 - Cascada (+3.7 million)

No. 64 - Justin Bieber (+3.1 million)

No. 65 - Maxwell (+0.7 million)

No. 75 - David Guetta / Akon (+4.5 million)

No. 77 - LeToya / Ludacris (+1.7 million)

No. 85 - Mariah Carey (+0.8 million) I Want To Know What Love Is

No. 87 - Alice In Chains (+0.8 million)

No. 88 - Trey Songs / Drake (+3.3 million)

No. 89 - Britney Spears (+14.2 million)

No. 97 - Chris Brown / Lil Wayne (+13.6 million)

No. 103 - Whitney Houston (+0.2 million)

No. 111 - 50 Cent / Ne-Yo (+1.8 million)

No. 112 - Owl City (+4.4 million)

No. 122 - Foo Fighters (+1.4 million)

No. 125 - Iyaz (+4.3 million)

No. 133 - Unkle Kracker (+1.2 million)

No. 135 - Muse (+1.3 million)

No. 153 - Sean Kingston (+1.9 million)

No. 167 - Shinedown (+2.7 million) If You Only Knew

No. 180 - Fabulous / Keri Hilson (+2.6 million)

No. 193 - Alejandro Sanz / Alicia Keys (+1.4 million)

No. 207 - Whitney Houston (+2.3 million) Million Dollar Bill

No. 238 - Rob Thomas (+2.2 million)

No. 249 - Michael Buble (+1.1 million)

No. 272 - Pink (+1.7 million)

No. 284 - Jesse McCartney / Ludacris (+1.3 million)

No. 294 - Madonna (+0.3 million)

No. 330 - Leona Lewis (+0.4 million)

No. 355 - Nickelback (+1.8 million)

No. 368 - Beyonce (+2.2 million) Video Phone

No. 369 - Usher (+5.2 million) Papers

No. 468 - John Mayer (+2.8 million)

No. 689 - Kris Allen (+2.3 million)

No. 892 - Pitbull / Akon (+1.6 million) Shut It Down

On R&B airplay, Maxwell is 1, Mario 2, Jay Z/Rihanna/Kanye 4, R Kelly/Keri Hilson 8, Drake/Kanye/Lil Wayne/Eminem 9, Maxwell (Bad Habits) 10, LeToya 11, Alicia Keys 16, Jay Z/Alicia Keys 18, Whitney 24, Chris Brown/Lil Wayne 26, Ester Dean/Chris Brown 34, Whitney (Million Dollar Bill) 35, Mariah (I Want To Know What Love Is) 43, Beyonce (Video Phone) 51, Usher 64 and Beyonce (Sweet Dreams) 86.

And Streaming:

No. 1 You Belong With Me

No. 2 Use Somebody

No. 3 Obsessed

No. 4 Down

No. 5 Waking Up In Vegas

No. 6 Falling For You

No. 7 Party In The USA

No. 8 No Surprise

No. 9 Good Girls Go Bad

No. 10 I Gotta Feeling

No. 11 Already Gone

No. 12 Sweet Dreams

No. 17 Run This Town

No. 22 Paparazzi

No. 26 Fireflies

No. 28 I Want To Know What Love Is

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Guest Danny86

Barbra is #1!!! :shock:

Madonna at #7 with 72k!

-- 1 STREISAND*BARBRA LOVE IS THE ANSWER 180,415 999 197 180,612

-- 2 PARAMORE BRAND NEW EYES 175,112 999 348 175,464

-- 3 CAREY*MARIAH MEMOIRS OF AN IMPERFECT ANGEL 167,912 999 934 168,858

-- 4 BREAKING BENJAMIN DEAR AGONY 134,489 999 787 135,276

-- 5 ALICE IN CHAINS BLACK GIVES WAY TO BLUE 126,146 999 64 126,210

2 6 JAY-Z BLUEPRINT 3 88,609 -34 134,134 996,744

-- 7 MADONNA CELEBRATION 72,159 999 255 72,414

-- 8 LAMBERT*MIRANDA REVOLUTION 65,875 999 15 65,890

-- 9 SELENA GOMEZ & SCENE KISS AND TELL 65,803 999 75 65,878

-- 10 PEARL JAM BACKSPACER 58,374 -69 189,292 247,666

(thanks to bks)

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SOUNDSCAN (WEEK ENDING 10/4/09)

1) Barbra Streisand – Love Is The Answer – 180,415

2) Paramore – Brand New Eyes – 175,112

3) Mariah Carey – Memoirs Of An Imperfect Angel – 167,912

Other Debuts

4) Breaking Benjamin – Dear Agony – 134,489

5) Alice In Chains – Black Gives Way To Blue – 126,146

7) Madonna – Celebration – 72,159

8 ) Miranda Lambert – Revolution – 65,875

9) Selena Gomez & The Scene – Kiss & Tell – 65,803

12) AFI – Crash Love – 51,586

28) Ghostface Killah – Ghostdini The Wizard – 19,242

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MOST #1 ALBUMS ON THE BILLBOARD 200

Beatles 19

Jay-Z 11

Elvis Presley 10

Rolling Stones 9

Bruce Springsteen 9

Barbra Streisand 9 "Love Is The Answer"

Garth Brooks 8

Elton John 7

Paul McCartney/Wings 7

Led Zeppelin 7

Madonna 7

U2 7

Janet Jackson 6

Mariah Carey 6

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SOUNDSCAN (WEEK ENDING 10/4/09)

1) Barbra Streisand – Love Is The Answer – 180,415

2) Paramore – Brand New Eyes – 175,112

3) Mariah Carey – Memoirs Of An Imperfect Angel – 167,912

Other Debuts

4) Breaking Benjamin – Dear Agony – 134,489

5) Alice In Chains – Black Gives Way To Blue – 126,146

7) Madonna – Celebration – 72,159

8 ) Miranda Lambert – Revolution – 65,875

9) Selena Gomez & The Scene – Kiss & Tell – 65,803

12) AFI – Crash Love – 51,586

28) Ghostface Killah – Ghostdini The Wizard – 19,242

yay yay yay!!! i am a happy girl today....congrats, babs and congrats, ciccone. it's a lovely day in the neighborhood for ole giaconda!!!! a big celebration today!!! yay yay yay!!!

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yeah, the least of this is "Babs pulling ahead of M by 2 #1 albums lol". Not the best news, but the least of it. Point is, Mariah simply had her release date changed to BEAT both Babs and Madonna! Shes very, very aware that Barbra holds the lead, so she was trying and *expecting* to make a point - that shes more popular than them and will be leave them both in the dust with #1 albums lol. Smack in the face of humble lamb pie. Good for Barbra! 4get about Mariah at this point. The one I could see surpassing the record is actually Britney Spears!! lol. Shes only 28 and already has like 5#1 albums. Well, at least Babs is more ahead now! Ill take her over Mimoo and Britney lol ANYday!

lolololol!!! i love u, buzzy!!! major smoooochies!

:vanitybonet:

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Barbra's 9 chart toppers:

DATE TITLE wks

10/31/1964 PEOPLE (5 weeks)

3/16/1974 THE WAY WE WERE (2 weeks)

2/12/1977 A STAR IS BORN (6 weeks)

1/6/1979 BARBRA STREISAND'S GREATEST HITS, VOLUME 2 (3 weeks)

10/25/1980 GUILTY (3 weeks)

1/25/1986 THE BROADWAY ALBUM (3 weeks)

7/17/1993 BACK TO BROADWAY (1 week)

11/29/1997 HIGHER GROUND (1 week)

10/17/2009 LOVE IS THE ANSWER (1 week)

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Madonna debuted better than I guess we all realistically expected just some weeks ago... good for her... another top.10 with almost zero promo, a country and radio against her, and with a GH filled with already available material except for some flop single and bonus track

Mariah and her shitty album debuts at #3 with loads of promotion and radio kissing her ass...

I would have hoped for Paramore to be #1 instead of Barbara though cause now Madonna need to get two #1's in a row to tie with Barbara for most #1's for a female.. oh well

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lolololol!!! i love u, buzzy!!! major smoooochies!

:vanitybonet:

XXOO. back at u doll! Again, In just saying that Madonna now being 2 #1 albums Barbra is not the big of deal to achieve. Barbra is 17 years old than her lol, so I think in 17 years madonna can easily surpass 9 #1 albums long as the material is hot . Just her fanbase alone would gaurantee big enough 1st week sales for more #1 albums. KEY thing here is Mooriblah did NOT tie M and get closer to Barbra. Some here need to release all that!lol. * This shows if Mimoos material is subpar, people and even many lambs desert her. With Madonna shes NEVER debuted that anywhere that low with a new studio album.

Again, WTG Barbra!

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