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US Chart Talk: 6/21/08


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That iTunes commercial airs A LOT. More than Madonna's Sunsilk ad was getting. Coldplay are probably getting more exposure through that commercial than whatever is the #1 airplay song this week.

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Looking at Mediabase numbers and digital sales, 4M looks like it will end up at No. 11 on the Hot 100- it will be jumped by "Pocketful of Sunshine" and most likely Chris Brown's "Forever."

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I'd like to point out to nothingfails0603 that Lil Wayne is predicted to sell 850-950k for the biggest opening week of the year, harshly countering his stance that the Hot 100 doesn't reflect what people want.

The HOT 100 is not all that reflective of what people want. However, Airplay creates demand as well. If you don't hear it, how you going to know you like it and go buy it? Sometimes what they play, the people like it and go buy it. Obviously, they do Lil Wayne. Whoop-de-doo. I have seen teens being exposed to different genres besides hip hop( when that was all they listened to) like on Houston's 95.7 where they play everything but it has a hip hop slant. Suddenly, all the teens like Finger Eleven's Paralyzer. First time they heard it was when 95.7 switched formats and they thought it was mostly a hip hop station( which it is) but they play a variety( even Miley Cyrus). AND they like Madonna because they play her song and they like that song.

Its about exposure.

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HITS:

New Lil Wayne Album Will be Year’s Biggest Debut, Targeted for 900k+

June 11, 2008

In Weezy we trust.

The music industry finally has something to shout about.

Thanks to an unprecedented pre-release blitz and the smash single, "Lollipop," Lil Wayne’s eagerly awaited Universal Motown release Tha Carter III is on target to sell more than 900k albums this week, almost twice as much as the previous record-holder, Mariah Carey’s E=MC2, which debuted with 475k last April. That’s based on one-day sales reports from beleaguered music retailers grateful for a little hot fun in the summertime.

If there’s brisk foot traffic across the country this Father’s Day weekend, Tha Carter III could even challenge Kanye West’s Graduation, which bowed with 957k last September. Not bad for an album which leaked all over the web last week.

It’s the biggest debut week ever for Sylvia Rhone’s Universal Motown, topping Nelly’s total of 714k back in June ’02.

Slip N Slide/Atlantic Tampa rapper Plies’ Definition of Real, which includes guest appearances from Ne-Yo, J. Holiday, Keyshia Cole, Trey Songz, Jamie Foxx and The-Dream, looks to be in the 225-250k area. The prolific hip-hop artist is reportedly about to drop a second disc by the end of the year.

Pharrell Williams and Chad Hugo’s band alter ego (with Shay Haley) N.E.R.D. come out with Seeing Sounds, their first album for Interscope, which will sell about 90k, give or take.

Rock crit and Louisville jam band acolytes My Morning Jacket are receiving big buzz for their latest on ATO, Evil Urges, which could do as much as 50k in first-week sales.

Alanis Morissette gets over the loss of boyfriend Ryan Reynolds to Scarlett Johansson with her new Maverick/Reprise album, Flavors of Entanglement, by consoling herself with 45-50k in sales.

Hitting retail on Tuesday is Coldplay’s Viva La Vida on Capitol, with EMI’s immediate future banking on its success.

Don’t feel too much pressure on yourself, Chris Martin.

The market was up 5% vs last week, down 14% vs same week last year and now down 11% year-to-date. We now return you to your regularly scheduled web-surfing for porn.

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2m at Pulse:

Top one-week sales soundscan history

Exact numbers are used wherever possible, exact chart dates are used wherever possible.

Much of this list comes from my own database, Ukmix filled in some of the gaps.

These are NOT debut weeks, many of these albums had strong sales in non-debut weeks. Albums that had multiple strong sales weeks are listed for each week that they made the top 100.

1 4/8/2000 No Strings Attached 'N Sync 2,415,859

2 8/11/2001 Celebrity 'N Sync 1,879,955

3 6/10/2000 The Marshall Mathers LP Eminem 1,760,049

4 12/9/2000 Black & Blue Backstreet Boys 1,591,191

5 6/15/2002 The Eminem Show Eminem 1,320,000

6 6/3/2000 Oops...I Did It Again Britney Spears 1,319,193

7 1/6/2001 1 The Beatles 1,258,667

8 3/19/2005 The Massacre 50 Cent 1,140,638

9 6/5/1999 Millennium Backstreet Boys 1,133,505

10 4/10/2004 Confessions Usher 1,096,213

11 12/5/1998 Double Live Garth Brooks 1,085,373

12 1/2/1993 The Bodyguard Soundtrack 1,061,000

13 11/4/2000 Chocolate Starfish Limp Bizkit 1,054,511

14 2/28/2004 Feels Like Home Norah Jones 1,022,149

15 09/29/07 Graduation Kanye West 956,936

16 11/6/1993 Vs. Pearl Jam 950,377

17 1/7/1995 The Hits Garth Brooks 907,000

Where will Lil Wayne end up in this list?

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IS that text real?! WOW Lollipop is so disgusting! I cannot believe that there are more than 900.000 americans who are going to buy that album the very first days :confused::bruised:

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Just wait until he invades Europe :chuckle:

lol

I don't know! I'm shocked with those numbers! It's 2008, June! 900.000?wtf!! They released it in Europe and it flopped.. Only #26 in the UK! That song is gross even for stations with target group 12-18 years old here!!

I have heard it just because I'm checking the american airplay because of Madonna

What's up americans? :confused:

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The UK is not the whole Europe. And American imports usually have huge budgets to launch a career outside. I'm gonna predict Europeans will fall for his crap sooner or later. BUAHAHA :chuckle:

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The UK is not the whole Europe. And American imports usually have huge budgets to launch a career outside. I'm gonna predict Europeans will fall for his crap sooner or later. BUAHAHA :chuckle:

UK is the biggest european market for urban music (and in general embraces more easily every american hit rather than any other country)...if UK doesnt embrace it , no other european country will...for example 'Low' which was huge in USA and quite big in UK was never a big hit in the rest of Europe..

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Both Madge and Mariah are doing respectable numbers. The only advantage Mariah has over Madge is the huge opening.

Between Mariah's legs. :thumbsup:

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oh my god.. it's album sales! Not just digital sales of the song that some teens downloaded! We know that the teens don't buy albums! What happened!!?! 900.000 right now is like 2.000.000 7-8 years ago :confused:

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UK is the biggest european market for urban music (and in general embraces more easily every american hit rather than any other country)...if UK doesnt embrace it , no other european country will...for example 'Low' which was huge in USA and quite big in UK was never a big hit in the rest of Europe..

LOL I was taking the piss. Don't get so serious and touch my body put me on the floor, wrestle me around :chuckle:

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I for one am happy for any sign that the music industry is still alive and people still care about buying albums. Coldplay should follow next week and they will be huge globally. Also very happy about HC's performance. Any questions about it outselling American Life are now pointless.

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Billboard.com

Lil Wayne A Lock To Top Next Week's Album Chart

June 11, 2008, 3:10 PM ET

Keith Caulfield, L.A.

It's all about Lil Wayne this week as The Billboard 200 prepares for the arrival of "Tha Carter III." The rapper's new Cash Money/Universal album will easily bow at No. 1 next week, as it leads Nielsen SoundScan's Building Chart, to be released this afternoon (June 11) at 5 p.m. ET.

Unweighted first-day sales of "Tha Carter III" at nine leading accounts through the close of business yesterday (June 10), stood at 423,000. Sources close to the album project "Carter" could shift between 850,000-950,000 in its first full week. That would easily give Wayne the biggest sales week of the year, and the best since Kanye West's "Graduation" started with 957,000 last year.

To compare, "Graduation" saw a first-day Building number of 437,000 from eight accounts, about 3% more than that posted by "Carter."

Billboard estimates the nine merchants who report to Nielsen SoundScan's Building chart -- Trans World Entertainment, Best Buy, Circuit City, iTunes, Starbucks, Borders, Target, Anderson Merchandisers and Handleman Co. -- comprise about 80% of all U.S. album sales.

Starbucks was not part of the Building Chart panel when West's title came to market last Sept. 11.

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UK is the biggest european market for urban music (and in general embraces more easily every american hit rather than any other country)...if UK doesnt embrace it , no other european country will...for example 'Low' which was huge in USA and quite big in UK was never a big hit in the rest of Europe..

Very true. Maybe can have some success in France, but in Italy, Spain or German-speaking countries..... forget it. I doubt it will even chart in some of these countries

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I doubt the general public, most of them, would visit RIAA or care about certifications...

It's only hardcore fans and chart freaks...

The average Joe would be less inclined to care.

I also stated "MEDIA" info and that includes BillBoard Chart records.

Only Barbara Streisand has more sales than M in America, MC is creeping close to 2nd!

So for those who DONT care re: HC sales . Then turn a deaf ear when the Media is reporting Barbra Streisand the best selling female in America.

Yes, I am a chart freak. And as a hardcore fan, I want M to receive that title! And if HC remains GOLD it will be her lowest CD-even if it sells 100k more than AL.

PERIOD>

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the Lil' Wayne album is GOOD... best rap album of the year so far

he also has MANY editions out right now so I'm sure the fans are snapping up all of them

Best Buy has the regular, special edition and the Best Buy special edition

Target (I think.. it might be K-Mart) has their own edition with 2 bonus tracks

there's bonus tracks for the iTunes versions as well

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anyone has any idea why radiohead's best of album charts in two positions...

I always thought 2CD versions of a title is a special edition and so should chart as one title... no?

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From my friend Ed:

Full trajectories below. "4 Minutes" picks up a bullet on Hot Singles Sales and Dance Singles Sales as a result of the release of the 12" vinyl. Otherwise, it no longer carries a bullet on any chart.

Madonna - "Hard Candy" [Gold]

The Billboard 200 - 1*-3-8-9-11-14

Billboard Comprehensive Albums - 1*-3-8-9-11-N/A

Top Digital Albums -1-2-6-11-13-20

Top Internet Albums - 1-4-7-5-7-15

Tastemakers - 2*-2-9-12-off-off

Top Canadian Albums - 1*-1-2-2-2-5

European Top 100 Albums - 1-1-1-1-1-2-2

Madonna - "The Immaculate Collection" [Diamond]

Top Pop Catalog - 15*-35-39-off-off-off

Madonna feat. Justin Timberlake and Timbaland - "4 Minutes" [Platinum]

The Billboard Hot 100 - 68*-3*-3*-7-6*-4*-6-7-7-8-10-10

Hot 100 Airplay - 51*-41*-30*-27*-16*-13*-11*-13*-12*-12*-12-13

Hot Singles Sales - 1*-2-1-4-4-5*

Hot Digital Tracks - 2*-1-2-1*-3-4-5-5-8-8-9

Hot Digital Songs - 2*-1*-2-1*-2-2-5-5-8-9-9

Pop 100 - 32*-3*-2*-3*-3*-3*-3-5-6-7-6-11

Pop 100 Airplay - 22*-15*-12*-11*-10*-9*-7*-6*-6*-6*-7-8

Hot Dance Club Play - 54-32*-12*-5*-1*-1*-2-5-8-12

Hot Dance Airplay - 5*-5-4*-4-4*-3*-2*-2-2*-1*-2-4

Hot Dance Singles Sales - 1*-2-1-1-2-2*

Hot Adult Top 40 Tracks - 39*-35*-35*-29*-26*-24*-22*-23*-21*-20*-20

Rhythmic Top 40 - 39*-31*-28*-28*-30*-31*-30-33-34-off

Latin Pop Airplay - 39*-off-32*-29*-27*-28-33

Hot Videoclip Tracks - 10-10-5-1-5-6-5-off

Canadian Hot 100 - 27*-1*-1*-1-1-1-1-2-1*-1-1-3

Hot Canadian Digital Singles - 1*-1-1-1-1-1-2-2-2-3-5

Japan Hot 100 - 6-16-47-63-off

Madonna - "Give It 2 Me"

The Billboard Hot 100 - 57*-off-off-off-off-off

Pop 100 - 41*-84-off-off-off-off

Hot Digital Tracks - 28*-74-off-off-off

Canadian Hot 100 - 8*-13-67-off-off-off

Hot Canadian Digital Singles - 4*-22-39-67-off-off

Madonna - "Miles Away"

Japan Hot 100 - 36-7-11-12-18

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