Posts posted by material_boy
Though I loved "Hard Candy" from the get-go, I honestly had no interest whatsoever in seeing her live. Tickets are expensive, I'd already seen her a couple of times in the past few years, and there weren't many people around who could afford / wanted to come with. If more tickets become available for Montreal, I may pick up a couple of cheap seats. If not, it's no big loss.
Beat Goes On
Into The Groove
She's Not Me
Devil Wouldn't Recognize You
La Isla Bonita
You Must Love Me
Ray Of Light
Give It 2 Me
"Borderline" and "Vogue" are in the setlist but their place has not been confirmed yet, but they are most probably gonna be in the first 2 segments as the 3rd and 4th has 5 songs each already.
As per MTribe:
"there's one big hit (a single)
two major screen videos (singles)
another interlude (based on a single - just like the two Sorry in Confessions)
and there's also a Folk song in there"
The "one big hit" is confirmed to be "Vogue" and the 2 videos are singles of Erotica & American Life.
Egads, that is a mess of a set.
I suppose I wouldn't be so upset about some choices if I didn't already know how they'd be played. Putting "Ray of Light" and "Hung Up" back to back all but guarentees a rehash of the Confessions Tour and Hard Candy promo tour performances, respectively, neither of which was particularly thrilling.
Also, I am a bit annoyed with her recent love of "La Isla Bonita." The Drowned World Tour version was fucking brilliant, but the Confessions version was dismal, and it's likely not going to be retooled much for this set.
"Borderline," "Into the Groove" and "Vogue" are nice additions, especially "Borderline."
By far, the biggest offender is third act -- "Devil" through "You Must Love Me" -- which just needs to be completely retooled. Toss out Evita for being woefully out of place, toss out "La Isla" for being overperformed, toss out "Spanish Lesson" because of my strong personal bias, and replace them with some 80s and 90s singles. Lord knows she has enough R&B material to choose from her first album through "Bedtime Stories" that would mesh well with the new album, so why is she ignoring so much of it?
An arena, please. I hate stadium shows on video. The acoustics and lighting are almost always terrible.
No one has helped me yet....aside from Toronto and CANADA...
I saw her in Toronto in 2004 and it was fucking insane. Probably the greatest crowd I've ever been in. I was shocked -- shocked! -- that she ignored the city in 2006. Very happy to see three Canadian cities this year. Canadians do it best.
The Candy Tour
1. Candy Shop
2. 4 Minutes
3. Give It To Me
5. Miles Away
6. She's Not Me
7. Beat Goes On
8. Dance 2Night
9. Devil Wouldn't Recognize You
4. Into The Groove
5. Open Your Heart
6. Deeper & Deeper
8. Nothing Really Matters
9. Beautiful Stranger
11. What it Feels Like for a Girl
12. Hung Up
I have a strong feeling that the upcoming tour will simply be called "The Candy Tour". The Bitch has been rather lazy in naming her live outings since she returned to touring in 2001, so I'm not expecting anything more. I also suspect that the setlist will be similar to that of the Confessions Tour -- performing all but a couple of the tracks from the new album, a couple of tracks from "Erotica" and / or "Bedtime Stories", and the rest of the set being split equally between classic 80s hits and songs from 1998-forward.
Does anyone have numbers for "Hung Up"'s first few days so we can compare?
Well, the "Sorry" interlude is no big deal. The remix is truly fantastic, but it wasn't a live performance by any stretch of the phrase. I figured every time Madonna leaves the stage would be cut or trimmed down.
Oh, Christ, people are still bitching about this?
I think I'd lose more respect for her if she didn't let it air. She needs to realize she has a fanbase outside of the West Coast and Northeast, which she is constantly skipping and a great portion of which does not have HBO or Showtime or any other such commercial-free network. Throw your fans a bone once in a while.
In the grand scheme of things it's one song in an entire show that of millions of fans from the past three decades missed. It's not worth screwing them over for one song to appease the hardcore fans on sites like this that saw it a half dozen times each.
The show WILL air this November with limited commercial interruption.
That's the best thing I've heard in a while.
Which London show was being filmed? Was it ever said?
Yes, "Don't Tell Me" is a genuine classic.
1. Borderline: 527 (+108)- 5.824m
Is this first time "Into The Groove" has been knocked from the top since "Santa Baby" at Christmastime?
How did she sell 1/3 of the tickets in Atlantic City that she sold in Boston at what's listed as the same price range, yet rake in half as much money?
Again, the primary motive behind her scheduling is based around her family.
How odd, you said just a few posts before thta the primary motive behind her scheduling was that her fanbase lies in these areas. Make up your mind.
But, really, even this doesn't hold much water. It's clear that's she's staying the general area of her homes, but she's stayed in hotels for a number of these cities. That much can be gathered from press clippings from the past couple tours and the documentary.
Because it is not home to the core of her fanbase. Her largest number of fans can be found in the "blue state" regions near famously liberal cities like Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, and Boston. She visits Miami each tour because she has a fondness for it (she used to live there) and because she also has a large fanbase and friends in the Miami-Ft. Lauderdale area.
Oh, that's ridiculous. Madonna can tour any city in any part of the country and sell out an arena. She is Madonna.
That's not just the Madonna fan talking. (Though the "Red America" and "Blue America" media-perpetuated "divide" is ridiculous and totally inaccurate, I will reluctantly use such terms since you have.) Madonna has major appeal nationwide, from Blood Red Indiana to Purple Ohio, which is conveniently right next door. For example, the idea that Madonna couldn't sell out a show in Kansas City is weak at best. Thousands of wannabes-turned-soccer moms would flock to see her simply because she is Madonna. Thousands of casual fans would flock to see her because Kansas City never gets big name stars (since the venues can't afford them).
Does she have more fans in New York than she does in Kansas City? Well, yes, that much is obvious. 1.) There are millions more people people in New York, the law of probability would suggest she has more fans there. 2.) New York has a club scene where she still continues to dominate, Kansas City does not. So, would it make sense to visit New York more often? Certainly, but that doesn't mean that she couldn't have added Kansas City to one of the past three tour routes at the expense of two New York shows.
Kansas City is a great example because she could sell it out if she wanted to and it is a conservative area. What boggles my mind is why she's skipping the big blue cities that litter Red America. Atlanta was done in 2001 and 2004, so that's fine to leave off, but what about Memphis, pre-Katrina New Orleans or any of the Texas cities James named, to name but a few?
Overperforming the southwest and northeast is going to kill her appeal for future projects. Not only will it leave casual fans in that area with a "I shelled out $300 two years ago and now she wants $365?" attitude that may keep them away from future tours, but it will demoralize hardcore fans in areas that are continually skipped. This repititious slap in the face that Australia, Latin America, the American south, etc. constantly get may not only keep fans away from future tours, but may keep them away from any sort of future project.
It's just not good business no matter how you rack it up.
Sell out or not, she's making a mint and the tour is a huge success. And even if it wasn't, it's a damn good show.
Though, with three tours in six years, she could have slimmed the number of American and western European shows and beefed up the number of shows elsewhere. That would be my only complaint about the Confessions Tour.
I heard "Get Together" for the first time on radio this past week. I was mucho excited at the time. The DJ seemed to love it.
I'd forgotten about that ridiculous "Forbidden Love" hand dance thing... whatever you want to call it.
Sticky & Sweet tour rumours
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Hm... I know there's only been a couple of small changes, but it's starting to look good to me -- maybe because of the leaks of how the songs will be done. I like "Borderline" being bumped back so that there's a definitive "Immaculate" era classic in each set until the end.
I still wish she'd do something with that third set, and I am concerned of the show ending with a rock version of "ROL" and "Hung Up." That's going to suck the excitement out of the air before the big finale.