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I was focus on the paper then realize the face haha the mouth etc... it is M??? not sure really haha
No way this is real. Look at the hotel room she's in -- it's like a Motel 6, with that cheap ass rug and bed. Gotta be an impersonator.
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@JimmyJimmy: Jesus fucking Christ, child. Take a hint and LEAVE.
I wanted a tour packed with 90s hits because this album is SO 90s, but I am still SCREAMING SO EXCITED. There is NO better time to be a Madonna fan than right before a new album drops or new tour starts, and you're just ruining this for everyone. GO AWAY.
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I know the "LFL" / "Rescue Me" mash-up is almost definitely a fake, but I'm afraid it's spoiled me for the real thing, though I did LOVE the Ellen mix.
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Listen Jimmy. You need to shut the fuck up, okay? You're being a fucking Debbie Downer. You should thank the lord or whatever the fuck you believe in that Madonna is alive, well, more fit than ever before, HAPPY, and about to embark on yet another World Tour that will once again set the bar a little higher for the rest of eternity. Okay?
If you don't like it go take a fucking walk, go hang out with some friends. Get the fuck away from here. I'm so fucking sick of you people raining on everyone's parade when at this point ALL WE HAVE ARE FUCKING RUMORS. I HOPE YOU GET A FLAT TIRE AND MISS THE CONCERT.
Fucking, fuck.
He's been trolling with this stuff for months. At this point, probably 50 percent of all his posts on this forum are "Her 80s stuff is tired, this is terrible news" bullshit in RHT topics.
@JimmyJimmy: Why don't you start a new topic called "The tour hasn't started, all I've seen is rumored setlists, and I already hate it?"
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I had no idea "Sorry" was so unloved. I thought that I was the only one who didn't like it!
Singles should have been:
- Hung Up
- Get Together
- Forbidden Love
- Jump
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Oh God. This era.
We were promised
and and we got 
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yeah me too. especially the demo has worldwide hit a la hung up & uptown funk written all over it
i remember the poll on impressive instant on madonnamusic.com
i think she could've been good in chicago. really good. just a feeling i have. stupid rupert everett.
i think hello suckers sounds interesting. i want it to happen
I remember that poll too -- but I forgot her team failed to secure madonna.com! They probably thought the internet was a fad
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I did not start following rumors or engaging in fan speculation until I graduated from fandom to full-on loon in 1998, but these are the rumors / expectations that I can recall from over the years:
- "Ray of Light" was going to hit number one in the U.S.
- "Sky Fits Heaven" was to be a single after "Ray of Light"
- "The Power of Goodbye" was going to hit number one in the U.S. (I cannot remember why so many people believed this)
- "Ray of Light" was going to win Album of the Year at the Grammys
- "Nothing Really Matters" was going to be a massive single, with a mega promo campaign launched after the Grammys
- "Veronica Electronica" -- a "Ray of Light" remix album -- was to be released in 1999
- "Skin" was to be the sixth single from "Ray of Light" / the first single from "Veronica Electronica"
- 1999 summer tour -- later rumored to be a 1999 fall tour -- was to focus almost entirely on new material
- "Beautiful Stranger" was going to hit number one in the U.S.
- "Beautiful Stranger" was going to hit the top 10 in the U.S. (after it was clear that there'd be no physical single)
- "Be Careful" was to be a single in late 1999 / early 2000
- Madonna was to star in "50 Violins" / "Music of the Heart"
- Madonna was to headline the 2000 Superbowl, at which she'd debut "American Pie" (Can you imagine?
) - "Music" would spend more than four weeks at number one in the U.S. (we were so greedy back then, acting like six weeks at number two was a letdown)
- "Music" was to have five more singles so that Warners could promote it in both the Christmas 2000 and Christmas 2001 seasons
- "What it Feels like for a Girl" was to be the second single from "Music"
- "What it Feels like for a Girl" was going to hit the top 10 in the U.S.
- "Paradise" was to be a single to promote both "Music" and "Production"
- "Amazing" was to be the fourth single from "Music"
- "Impressive Instant" was to be the fourth single from "Music"
- Drowned World Tour set list included a full performance of "Open Your Heart" all the way until the final week of rehearsals
- Drowned World Tour was to include the English version of "What it Feels like for a Girl" in the UK and U.S.
- Drowned World Tour DVD would include "You'll See" performance and Brixton show as special features
- Madonna was to dedicate "Gone" to Aaliyah at the Detroit show
- "GHV2" was to be called "The Immaculate Collection 2" or "The Second Coming" (there was a third title that was heavily rumored, but I can't recall it now -- something like "Hits Lady," I think)
- "GHV2" was to have a chronological track listing, like "The Immaculate Collection"
- "GHV2" was to have one or two new tracks
- "GHV2" was to include "Impressive Instant," which was to be released as a single to promote both "Music" and "GHV2"
- "GHV2" was to have live versions of "Music" and "Holiday" from the Drowned World Tour, both to be released as singles
- Madonna was to star in "Chicago"
- Madonna would contribute two tracks to the "Die Another Day" soundtrack
- "Die Another Day" was going to hit number one in the U.S.
- "American Life" was to be called "Hollywood"
- "Hollywood" was to be the lead single
- "Nobody Knows Me" was to be 10 minutes long on the album
- "Mother and Father" was to be an acoustic song
- "X-Static Process" was to be a dance song
- "American Life" (original video) would get released, banned, and made a video single like "Justify my Love"
- "Intervention" or "Love Profusion" would be second single after "American Life" flop
- VMAs performance would rescue "American Life" from totally flopping (so naive)
- "Remixed and Revisited" was to include a number of re-recorded hits, a la "Into the Hollywood Groove"
- "Remixed and Revisited" was to be promoted with one or more new tracks
- 20th anniversary box (2003) set was to include Blond Ambition DVD release (still waiting for this)
- Re-Invention Tour was to be called The Whore of Babylon Tour
- Re-Invention was to be a goodbye tour after the "American Life" flop (
) - Madonna dropped all songs with the word "goodbye" from the set list to counter the "goodbye tour" rumors ( )
- Re-Invention Tour was to end in Israel after the Lisbon shows
- Re-Invention Tour was to be extended in Europe after the Israel shows were aborted
- Re-Invention Tour Lisbon was to be broadcast live on CBS in the U.S.
- Re-Invention Tour was to be released on DVD (still waiting for this too)
- "Hello Suckers" was to be Madonna's next major project after Re-Invention / "I'm Going to Tell You a Secret"
- "I'm Going to Tell You a Secret" would get a theatrical release
- "Hung Up" was going to hit number one in the U.S.
- "Get Together was to be the second single from "Confessions"
- "Jump" was to be the second single from "Confessions"
- Confessions Tour would visit Australia
- Remix album and / or box set was to be released in 2007 to celebrate "Everybody"'s 25th anniversary
- "4 Minutes" was going to hit number one in the U.S. (still miffed at this one)
- "Miles Away" was to be the second single
- "Beat Goes On" was to be the third -- and, later, fourth -- single
- "Masterpiece" would get an Oscar nomination
I stopped following along so much in 2007 / 2008 when the economy slowed down (and then crashed). I was working multiple jobs to make ends meet and just didn't have the time or energy. Then, when I finally got a good, stable job, she didn't have anything new out for ages. (And then "MDNA" came and it did not really win me over.) "Rebel Heart" is the first era I've been crazy about and following along since "Confessions."
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I've come to believe despite the popular opinion that RIT was one of the best and most enjoyable shows she ever did
I've said it before and I'll say it again -- RIT is the best live show I've ever been to. I have yet to see a live recording of the show that appropriately captured the energy of that show or the crowds. All the recordings look so boring, but good God ... it was an incredible show live.
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She looks incredible in so many of these, but 1997 and 2003 are my favorite
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But isn't this a contradiction? You are saying she should cater more to casual fans, but you want more 90's stuff. In my experience, casual fans do associate her more with the 80's, although she has had hits in three decades. If you asked the average person walking down the street to name ten big Madonna hits, most likely they would name 7 or 8 from the 80's.
I suppose it all depends on the age / location of the person. Most of the people I know can sing along to "Secret" and "You'll See," even if they never bought a Madonna album or bought a song on iTunes.
I'm not saying stuff like "Secret" is on the same level of "Like a Prayer" in terms of pop culture relevance or casual fan appreciation, but I suspect that most people in the audience can sing along to it.
But anyway ... It looks like she's doing a fair number of 80s hits and I look forward to see what she does with them. I love a Madonna show where 15,000 people are all singing along. Doesn't get any better than that.
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I wonder how she can update true blue the song is so dated tho I love it ....
Country western version on a horse. Obviously.
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I mean the setlist of this tour isn't going to really effect sales of this tour, because most people buy their tickets ahead of time. If anything, it would affect the sales of the next tour.
Having said that, I don't think doing a ton of hits would automatically get things back to the level of the Sticky and Sweet tour. She was closer to her big hits at time (4 Minutes was huge, the Confessions singles were successful in most countries) and less saturated in most markets when compared to now.
But having said that, fuck it! She's still doing really well, and Madonna has always been about a balance between old and new. I still think the biggest issue is pricing, if that were a bit more reasonable she'd be set.
It could affect this tour. Good word of mouth (especially on social media), good reviews, and positive media coverage of opening night and other early shows could move the unsold tickets for later dates. And, let's be honest, she's gonna get a lot more buzz from a killer rendition of "Vogue" than she will "Body Shop."
That said, she has the show locked down at this point. The rumored set lists have all looked fairly similar for a while now and they seems like a good mix of old and new, though I'd have preferred -- as I've been saying for months now -- a stronger focus on her 90s catalogue than her 80s stuff. Still, can't deny that I am pissing myself to hear "Dress You Up" and "Who's That Girl" live for the first time
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Should have been performed on S&ST instead of "Hung Up" or the tired guitar ROL:
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And silence me with BITTERNESS AND LIES
I loved "ROL" on Sticky! It had so much energy. It was basically the same as what she did on Confessions, but it just seemed so much more alive on Sticky.
"Hung Up" on guitar was terrible, though. Glad to see it dropped for "Frozen" in 2009 show, though I'd love to have seen the "Impressive Instant" / "Burning Up" mash-up come to life
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Songs
4,322. Where's the Party
I am always surprised how often this song turns up. It must be her most well-known non-single. (Though it should have been a single in late 87 to promote "You Can Dance.")
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Open your Heart wasn't that different. It still had the same melody and still uptempo but with the Spanish rhythms. You could definitely still recognize it.
OK, that's true -- it's not radically reinvention. It's just terrible.
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People still arguing about hits vs new
No definitely not. My original point wasn't calling for M to do a greatest hits at all. I was just stating not everyone who goes to her shows are hardcore fans. A mix of old and new is perfect which she does all the time. I'm probably in the minority but I liked the MDNA setlist because the classics bar LAV all sounded near to the original. If she does a GH she would advertise as a GH Tour, not the RH Tour
And the Crapikan trio's rendition of "OYH"
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What a GREAT topic
My top 10:
- Blond Ambition: Vogue
- Blond Ambition: Keep it Together
- Blond Ambition: Express Yourself
- Confessions: Future Lovers
- Drowned World: Sky Fits Heaven
- Sticky: Vogue
- Confessions: Erotica
- Blond Ambition: Like a Prayer
- Drowned World: Impressive Instant
- Girlie Show: Fever
Special mentions:
- Who's the Girl: Open Your Heart
- Confessions: Music
- Who's that Girl: Into the Groove
- Drowned World: Lo Que Siente La Mujer
- Sticky: Into the Groove
- Confessions: Forbidden Love
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"I'll Remember," "Secret," "Take a Bow, or "You'll See" -- her mid-90s catalogue has been ignored for too long!
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The PERFECT:
1. Impressive Instant
2. Open Your Heart
3. Nobody Knows Me
4. Fever
The great:
5. Get Together
6. Lucky Star
7. Beat Goes On
The meh:
8. Holiday
9. Revolver
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1993
when I saw Rain video
Oh God, the "Rain" video. This was my white whale back in the pre-YouTube age.
Like I said earlier, I became a fan in 1994 as she rolled out "I'll Remember," "Secret," and "Take a Bow." The first M album I bought was "Something to Remember."
I was radicalized when "Frozen" hit the radio years later. My scant mid-90s offerings were no longer enough -- I needed to consume everything she'd ever done, and FAST. I nicked my mother's old copy of "Deeper and Deeper" first chance I got. Loved it.
Then, in the run-up to the "Frozen" video premiere, she seemed to be on TV non-stop. MTV and VH1 had video marathons, TV specials new and old, and even re-broadcast concerts.
(Quick aside: I think it was around this time that VH1 re-aired The Girlie Show -- the first Madonna concert that I ever saw. To this day, I vividly recall watching TGS with the boy from next door, who I had a terrible crush on -- I thought he was so cute. All the kids in my high school said he was gay, so I started hanging out with him non-stop because I wanted desperately to make out with him. Anyway, he was there watching with me and he was so bored that he left. But I didn't give a F the boy I was crushing on left -- I was in love with this woman and had to watch this concert.)
Anyway, in the run-up to the "Frozen" video premiere, I think it was during VH1's weekly show where they counted down the top 10 videos of the week that they played a quick montage of the queen's old videos, with the VJ voicing over them like "She's always shocked and entertained us, so be sure to catch her new video's debut on MTV next week" or some shit like that. During the montage they played a clip of "Rain" and it was just so mesmerizing. But they didn't say what the video was or even play the music from the song in the background. I had no idea what it was, but I desperately wanted to see the whole thing. It took me months (maybe years) to finally see the video in some Madonna marathon, and I remember being so fucking excited to finally see this video -- and to learn what song it was for! -- that I probably screamed.
"Rain" will always hold a special place in my heart for that long search.
Excuse me, gotta go change my avatar to a "Rain" screenshot now.
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Also love the fantastic beast within opening for RIT.
It looked amazing live in person.
"The Beast Within" / "Vogue" was a stunner of an opener that can only be appreciated if experienced live.
The crowd cheering as the lights went down ...
The dark arena slowly flickering to life with the X-Static Process video and the slow chanting of the song ...
The apocalyptic verses and that booming bass line that shook the whole venue ...
It was legitimately creepy. And then it just broke suddenly with "What are you looking at?" and the crowd just roared as "Vogue" started.
RIT was an incredible live experience. The DVD version that leaked to YouTube just didn't capture how spectacular the whole thing was.
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It was always planned.
She asked Alek Keshishian -- who directed "Truth or Dare" -- to direct, but he declined. He said in a recent interview that he passed because he did not think a follow-up doc could be done successfully. He believed that the doc would need to focus on her family to show how much she'd grown since "TOD," but also believed that she'd be harshly criticized for exploiting her kids if she chose to feature them heavily in a new documentary.
The film was planned for theatrical release, but was released straight to video for reasons that aren't entirely clear. There were conflicting rumors at the time as to why it went straight to video. Some said that Miramax, which had distributed "TOD," was prepared to distribute "IGTTYAS" but that the deal collapsed when the Weinstein brothers left the company. Others said that the potential distributors lost interest after Madonna forced several rounds of re-edits after hearing negative feedback from screenings she'd given friends and family. Others still said that Madonna had grown frustrated with the project and had little interest in finishing or promoting it, largely abandoning it so that she could finish "Confessions."
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It was a deliberate strategy for Warner not to release the song as a single. This was a very common practice back then to withhold a single in order to push album sales. The strategy worked. The Evita soundtrack peaked at number two and sold just as much as I'm Breathless, Erotica, Bedtime Stories and Something to Remember.
The song definitely would have reached number one though.
Fyi, the same was done with Beautiful Stranger
I understand it was a deliberate strategy. That doesn't make it any less stupid.
The Miami Mix -- not the album version -- is what became a radio hit, and the mix was unavailable on the soundtrack. There were stories at the time that large numbers of customers were returning the soundtrack to stores for exactly that reason. That's why Warner abandoned their radio-only plan and rushed the release of the maxi single.
If they'd made the decision to release a single for sale at the same time they decided to release the Miami Mix to radio instead of the album version -- and had also released a traditional two-track single -- "DCFMA" would have been her 12th number one in the U.S.
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Erp. My bad.
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