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  1. You are so talented, Mattress. I love the tour poster. This bitch needs to hire your ass for various projects!

    I think in this day and age, artists need to start extending a hand to the fans... much of the time they do it better than the 'professionals' that do a half assed job.

    That's really sweet of you to say. Thanks. :vogue:

    It would be cool if the opportunity to work on an official Madonna project ever presented itself but I sincerely doubt it ever would. Oh, that I had ten minutes on the phone with the producers of the forthcoming compilation...

  2. I could easily get this effect by playing a CD (usually the original CD, not a burned CD where the songs are 128 kpbs) on a disc man (yea, remember those?) and plugging the headphones in half-way. It's really interesting to hear it like this throughout the ROL album.[b/]

    Yes! That's how I first discovered it... I had The Immaculate Collection cassette in my little, yellow, waterproof Sony walkman (:rotfl:), and the cord caught and dislodged the headphone jack.

    I was all :shock: and :dramatic:.

  3. The second is the entry for the album in Matthew Rettenmund's Encyclopedia Madonna. The book was published in the Spring of 1995, so this was clearly a last minute addition to the book. (Hope everyone is able to read this quickie scan...)

    encyclopediamadonnicabedtimestories.png

    I'll see if I can find more reviews from the major publications for you, cosmic_system. :)

  4. I'd love to read some album reviews from Usa Today, NY Post etc

    Here are two of my favorites. The first is from the December 15, 1994 issue of Rolling Stone magazine:

    Rolling Stone

    After the drubbing she has taken in the last few years, Madonna deserves to be mighty mad. And wounded anger is shot through her new album, Bedtime Stories, as she works out survival strategies. While always a feminist more by example than by word or deed, Madonna seems genuinely shocked at the hypocritical prudishness of her former fans, leading one to expect a set of biting screeds. But instead of reveling in raised consciousness, Bedtime Stories demonstrates a desire to get unconscious. Madonna still wants to go to bed, but this time it's to pull the covers over her head.

    Still, in so doing, Madonna has come up with some awfully compelling sounds. In her retreat from sex to romance, she has enlisted four top R&B producers: Atlanta whiz kid Dallas Austin, Kenneth "Babyface" Edmonds, Dave "Jam" Hall and Britisher Nellee Hooper (Soul II Soul), who add lush soul and creamy balladry. With this awesome collection of talent, the record verily shimmers. Bass-heavy grooves push it along when more conventional sentiments threaten to bog it down. Both aspects put it on chart-smart terrain.

    A number of songs – "Survival," "Secret," "I'd Rather Be Your Lover" (to which Me'Shell NdegéOcello brings a bumping bass line and a jazzy rap) – are infectiously funky. And Madonna does a drive-by on her critics, complete with a keening synth line straight outta Dre, on "Human Nature": "Did I say something wrong?/Oops, I didn't know I couldn't talk about sex (I musta been crazy)."

    But you don't need her to tell you that she's "drawn to sadness" or that "loneliness has never been a stranger," as she sings on the sorrowful "Love Tried to Welcome Me." The downbeat restraint in her vocals says it, from the tremulously tender "Inside of Me" to the sob in "Happiness lies in your own hand/It took me much too long to understand" from "Secret."

    The record ultimately moves from grief to oblivion with the seductive techno pull of "Sanctuary." The pulsating drone of the title track (co-written by Björk and Hooper), with its murmured refrain of "Let's get unconscious, honey," renounces language for numbness.

    Twirled in a gauze of (unrequited) love songs, Bedtime Stories says, "Fuck off, I'm not done yet." You have to listen hard to hear that, though. Madonna's message is still "Express yourself, don't repress yourself." This time, however, it comes not with a bang but a whisper.

  5. I'm in a hurry right now, but you can wire almost any stereo to produce this effect, or use an audio file editor to simulate it. What it's doing is cancelling out sounds that fall dead center in a stereo recording, leaving you with only what falls far left and far right in the mix.

    Here is Don't Stop - Full Length Isolated Center Channel: http://www.mediafire.com/?zftifjmmkkn

    My favorite from Bedtime Stories using this effect is I'd Rather Be Your Lover. It basically becomes an http://www.mediafire.com/?zmyjzmmd0yz

    I'll go through some of her stuff later and find the better ones to give examples. Here are snippets of the three off of the top of my head that produce interesting results:

    Into The Groove (low harmony bridge followed by high harmony secondary chorus :inlove:) http://www.mediafire.com/?rydymzmqnn5

    Nothing Really Matters (you don't even notice the "bobbling" synth/bass in the full mix, and the end harmonies sound lovely) http://www.mediafire.com/?1otmiznmt30

    Candy Perfume Girl (all minimalistic like, losing the guitar and bringing the lead vocal to the fore of the mix) http://www.mediafire.com/?qrnmgimyymj

  6. Well at the time of these posts there were only around 500 websites. That's all. I think a lot of people probably learned about the internet through Warner Bros. early online efforts. They would get the brief mention on MTV news, and then they featured Madonna's page at the end of a big History Of Rock 'N' Roll documentary event in '94/'95.

    E-mail addresses (mostly AOL) and website addresses began appearing as part of album credits in 1995 and picked up throughout 1996... during this time they started manufacturing CD-roms with videos and wallpapers and this evolved into enhanced CDs/singles.

    It just kept growing and growing but it hit a new peak around 1998-1999 which is when computers became a little more affordable and AOL really put push behind their online services... remember all of the 2.0 crap? :lol:

  7. This is from an archive of the madonna@mit.edu mailing list. You have to sift through a lot of crap and classifieds ("I waited outside her house for three weeks! I LOVE YOU MADONNA!" and "I have this video to trade for such and such magazine" x 2,000,000) so I've been going through and cherry picking posts pertaining to Bedtime Stories. It makes for an interesting time capsule of both Madonna and of the early days of the internet.

    "Nobody is quite sure when the list started, though most think it began circa 1990-1991, when Madonna was cavorting on screen in Truth or Dare and in the video Justify My Love.

    In 1992, the list was called madonna@mit.edu, and it was run for the next three years by a student named Joe who saved it from being shut down. The message volume on the mailing list soon became a burden for some people as membership grew, so Joe created the Madonna Digest. In March, 1995, Joe left for graduate school, and turned the list over to Jim, then a student at the University of Michigan. He moved the mailing list to madonna@umich.edu—how appropriate, considering Madonna was once a student there. Automation of the lists finally came with the advent of mlvc.org

  8. THIRD INSTALLMENT, September/October 1994 postings... includes much of the week of the album release.

    Date: Thu, 15 Sep 94 20:56:06 EDT

    From: Smedley4 (at) aol.com

    Subject: More SECRET information!!!

    OKAY, EVERYONE. Hope you're sitting down, 'cause I got lots more exclusive

    info about Madonna's brand new album. Just to summarize one last time,

    here's everything I know about the album up to this point:

    ****************************

    ALBUM TITLE: "BEDTIME STORIES"

    Catalog Number: 4/2-45767

    WEA Confirmed Street Date: Tuesday, October 25, 1994 (Major record stores

    such as Tower Records will be open at Midnight on Monday, October 24th to

    sell the new LP before anyone else)

    TRACK LISTING (also includes any small notes that I know about each track):

    1. "Survival"

    2. "Secret"

    --Scheduled release date for radio play: September 20th

    --Scheduled release date for the single: October 6th

    --Scheduled release date for the maxi-single: Mid-November

    3. "I'd Rather Be Your Lover"

    -- Me'Shell N'degeOcello, plays bass guitar

    4. "Don't Stop"

    5. "Inside Of Me" (rumored to be a re-visitation of "Where Life Begins") :rotfl:

    6. "Human Nature"

    7. "Forbidden Love"

    8. "Love Tried To Welcome Me"

    9. "Sanctuary"

    10. "Bedtime Story"

    -- co-written by Bjork and Nellie Hooper

    11. "Take A Bow"

    NOTE: Above is the official track listing from WEA. However, another

    reliable source has also posted a message claiming that there are two other

    track titles that aren't listed above. These haven't been confirmed, so they

    may or may not end up on the album. The titles, with their respective

    comments by the source, include:

    1. "Oops, Sorry" - Madonna lashes out at her critics. Lyrics include: "I'm

    No Bitch, Don't Hang Your Shit On Me." :rotfl:

    2. "For You" - Madonna talks about how tough it is at the top.

    MUSICIANS on the new album:

    Me'Shell N'DegeOcello: Bass Guitar

    Baby face: Drum programming, synthesizers, backing vocals

    Dallas Austin: Drums, keyboards

    Tommy Martin: Guitar

    Colin Wolfe: Bass

    PRODUCERS on the new album:

    Nellie Hooper, Dallas Austin, Babyface, Madonna, David Hall

    --(Note that Stephen Bray and/or Shep Pettibone are not rumored to be

    working on this album)

    ******************************

    I also have some lyrics from the new song "Secret", they go like this:

    Things haven't been the same

    Since you came into my life

    You found a way to touch my soul

    And I'm never, ever, ever gonna let it go

    Hapiness lies in your own hand

    It took me much too long

    To understand

    How it could be

    Until you share your. . .

    Secret with me

    Something's coming over, mmmm....

    Something's coming over, mmmm....

    Something's coming over me

    My baby's got a secret. . . .

    ****************************

    -----Warner Bros. online has posted a 30-second sample of the song, it is an

    IBM .WAV file, but can be converted and played on a Macintosh using some

    simple shareware sound utility programs also available for free through AOL.

    -----Madonna has also posted her own exclusive recorded 50-second long,

    spoken message on the computer message board, American Online. Below is a

    text representation of the message, which is recorded by Madonna herself, in

    her own voice. This is exactly what she says, word for word:

    "Hello, all you Cyberheads!

    Welcome to the nineties version of intimacy.

    You can hear me. . .

    You can even see me. . .

    But you can't touch me. . .

    Do you recognize my voice?

    It's Madonna.

    Often imitated, but never duplicated. . .

    Or, should I say, often IRRITATED.

    If you feel like it, you can download the sound file of my

    new single "Secret," from my new album, "Bedtime Stories," which comes out

    next month.

    I just shot the video in New York, and will be premiering an exclusive sample

    of it online. So check back soon. In the mean time, why don't you post me

    and let me know what you think of my new song. And by the way, don't believe

    any of those online imposters, pretending to be me. . . Ain't nothing like

    the real thing.

    Peace, out. . . ."

    Hope this information helps. If all goes well, and my super-reliable,

    TOP-SECRET source comes through for me, I'll have a complete copy of the full

    album within a week or so. I'll be sure to keep you guys "posted." Bye for

    now!!!!

    ---

    Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 21:16:49 -0400 (EDT)

    From: Ed Sadtler <ehs12 (at) columbia.edu>

    Subject: ALBUM TRACK LISTING

    Thanks for the information about "Bedtime Stories" from 'Smedley4.' A

    number of the tracks sound intriguing, though none anything

    earth-shatteringly original.I hope the album has more than just 11 tracks on

    it -- studio albums have generally been 12-14 tracks in the last few

    years. Madonna may be planning to save a few cuts as B-sides for future

    single releases.

    I also hope that Madonna extends her messages calling for respect for gay

    lifestyles to to the lyrics of her new album. The Girlie Show broke down

    a lot of boundaries in this area but I think it is important that she

    expresses her views in her music more directly than she has in the past

    in songs such as "In This Life." Is anyone else interested in discussing

    Madonna's music, as opposed to video and film, with respect to gay issues?

    ---

    Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 22:13:06 -0400 (EDT)

    From: Ed Sadtler <ehs12 (at) columbia.edu>

    Subject: SECRET REMIXES

    Something's certainly going to come over dance clubs this fall. After

    guarantee that "Secret" will be a sure-fire dance hit. The

    mixes scream "dance club" atmosphere...the driving techno beat,

    repetitive vocals, etc. "Secret" should sour to the top of the dance chart

    in a matter of weeks after the maxi-single's release. (Why the hell are they

    releasing the maxi so late in the U.S.?)

    Of course, every dance song Madonna has released since "Like A Prayer" has

    hit the top of the dance charts with the exception of "Rescue Me." _Erotica_

    and _Like A Prayer_ both had three #1 dance hits.

    Dance on...

    ---

    Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 13:55:25 EDT

    From: Joe Barco <jwb (at) MIT.EDU>

    Subject: WWW page

    Hi all,

    I found out today that the Madonna homepage on the World Wide Web

    (http://www.mit.edu:8001/people/jwb/Madonna.html) is the 3rd most accessed

    document from someone's homepage at MIT. This is pretty impressive since about

    500 people have homepages. My homepage, probably thanks to the Madonna page,

    is ranked 4th in total accesses. Keep it up!

    Also, I hope people have been calling the radio stations in their

    hometowns requesting 'Secret.' Oh, and when the new album comes out, I hope

    that people refrain from sending mail that starts with 'I just bought Bedtime

    Stories, and I like it.' Otherwise, we are going to be flooded with 400+

    messages in one day, and I don't think anyone feels like sorting through that.

    Oh, I'm going to be adding a whole slew of pictures to the Madonna

    homepage within the next few days. Keep looking for them.

    P.S. If Madonna was reading this mailing list, wouldn't it be cool if

    she gave us advance info about the next single/videos (hint hint)? :-)

    ---

    Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 23:06:02 -0400 (EDT)

    From: Ed Sadtler <ehs12 (at) columbia.edu>

    Subject: Let Down Your Guard

    I agree with Robert's observation that "Let Down Your Guard" from the import

    single of "Secret" is not very Madonna-esque. I think the short-breathed

    vocals and "funk" synth beat is quite Prince-esque. It reminds me of much

    of Prince's work in the 80's that was never released as commerical

    singles, but was a big part of his body of work as a whole. The

    compressed back-up singing, background noise (like a telephone call), and

    sexual lyrics are also very Prince-esque.

    Inititially I did not like the track much, but like "Bye Bye Baby," it

    has grown on me...I can really get into the funky beat. Madonna is at

    her funkiest in the song when she says "I'll take you for a little

    ride." I love that part!

    The track is an excellent b-side because, though it is perhaps not polished

    enough for an album, it shows Madonna experimenting with different styles.

    ---

    Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 21:35:34 -0500

    From: dhanna (at) mail.sas.upenn.edu (David B Hanna)

    Subject: The Virgin Tour

    I notice that a lot of people on this list are "newer" fans, beginning from

    the _Like a Prayer_ phase or the _Erotica_ phase. I kinda find that

    interesting, as during those times it seemed to be when she was _losing_

    fans, not gaining them. (People might think otherwise, but at least

    amongst my peers, it was rather uncool to be liking Madonna.) But it's

    cool that people will go against the trends for her... By the way, the

    first album I ever bought was _Like a Virgin_, not that that means

    anything...

    ---

    Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 18:08:26 -0400 (EDT)

    From: Andre Passero <5PASSERO_A (at) spcvxa.spc.edu>

    Subject: ATTN ALL MADONNA FANS IN NEW YORK!!!!!!!!!

    Hello all,

    I am writing now to invite all who are interested and who

    live in the New York area to Tower Records, October 24th, around 11:30

    or 11:45 PM to get your copy of Bedtime Stories. It should be fun

    because we could get the album and also have a chance to meet one another.

    Tower Records have been sort of vague in there response to selling

    the album a little early, but I think they will. If the absolutly refuse,

    we could go to HMV records who promised to give the album out early.

    Mabey we could even get some publicity for this. :-)

    I am very excited about this so I would like to hear what you think

    about it.

    OK hope to see you there.

    Andre

    ---

    Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 18:06:25 -0400 (EDT)

    From: Ed Sadtler <ehs12 (at) columbia.edu>

    Subject: BILLBOARD UPDATE 10/22

    My previous "Secret Billboard Update" form is being altered to the

    broader "Billboard Update" to allow for the inclusion of all Madonna

    singles, albums, and videos on the charts including the Girlie Show

    video, the forthcoming _Bedtime Stories_, and subsequent singles released

    from the album. Enjoy...

    _Billboard_ October 22, 1994

    "Secret" ©(D)(V)

    ==========================================================================

    Chart This Week Last Week Weeks on Chart

    ==========================================================================

    Hot 100 Singles Chart 4 9 3

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Hot 100 Airplay 3 7 3

    Hot 100 Singles Sales 18 18 2

    Top 40/Mainstream Airplay 4 11 3

    Top 40/Rhythm Crossover 15 22 2

    Hot Adult Contemporary 15 19 3

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    MTV Video Monitor 7 NEW 1

    VH-1 Video Monitor 5 NEW 1

    ==========================================================================

    "Secret" becomes Madonna's 22nd Top 5 hit. This consolidates her record

    for most Top 5 hits by a female artist and places her third, behind Elvis

    Presley and The Beatles, for most Top 5 hits by an artist or group in the

    rock era. Billboard commentator Fred Bronson notes that Madonna is

    fourth in number of top 10 hits, behind Elvis (38), The Beatles (33) and

    Stevie Wonder (28). The next release off her new album will enevitably tie

    her for third (she currently has 27 top 10 hits).

    Last weeks Top 3 continue to hold their places though they all are

    declining in total points. "I'll Make Love To You" shows little signs of

    giving up the top spot anytime soon. Madonna's stagnating singles sales

    prevent her from exceeding "All I Wanna Do" or "Endless Love." If her

    singles sales improve, she should easily capture the #2 spot next week.

    There is little competition for "Secret" behind it on the charts. Fred

    Bronson notes that "You Want This" is the lowest entry from "janet."

    debuting at #60. Sorry Janet, we don't want this (I couldn't resist).

    MTV seems to be showing a return to its Madonna-worshipping days, giving

    "Secret" top ten airplay in its first week of release.

    "I'll Remember" ©(D)(V)(M)(X)(T) Certified Gold

    ==========================================================================

    Hot 100 Recurrent Airplay 9 6 4

    Adult Contemporary Recurrents 1 1 2

    ==========================================================================

    "I'll Remember's" strong presence on the recurrent charts hints that it

    is fast becoming a "classic" pop ballad.

    "The Girlie Show-Live Down Under"

    ==========================================================================

    Top Music Video 33 28 24

    ==========================================================================

    Does anyone know where the Girlie Show video peaked?

    In two weeks, _Bedtime Stories_ will make its debut on the Top 200 Albums

    chart. So far, strong competition for the top spots comes from R.E.M.,

    holding on to the top spot for a second week, Boyz II Men, and Eric Clapton.

    Though perhaps excessively long, I think this expanded version of my

    updates is more thorough. I welcome any comments for improvements and hope

    others will offer commentary on Madonna's presence on the charts.

    ---

    Date: Wed, 19 Oct 94 14:19:29 EDT

    From: August A Galifi <s0185304 (at) hawkmail.monmouth.edu>

    Subject: Bedtime/Erotica release

    Just thought i would give a little bit of useless trivia.

    Bedtimes Stories is being released exactly 2 years to the week that Erotica

    was released.

    ---

    Date: Wed, 19 Oct 94 13:01:34 PDT

    From: ma299aq (at) sdcc14.UCSD.EDU (Archie Medrano)

    Subject: Bedtime Stories being played by radio stations

    Oh my God!!!!!!!

    I can't believe they're doing this to me!!! I already heard "Forbidden Love"

    and "Survival"!!! One radio station said they played "Don't Stop", which

    I totally missed!

    Arrrgggghhhh! Now I can't wait until next Tuesday!!!!

    ---

    Date: Wed, 19 Oct 94 14:14:56 PST

    From: carvin (at) wln.com

    Subject: Re: Bedtime Stories being played by radio stations

    seattle's kube played don't stop around 1 p.m. today. fabu!

    ---

    Date: Thu, 20 Oct 94 17:08:49 EDT

    From: tw2871 (at) VNET.IBM.COM

    Subject: BEDTIME STORIES

    From: Tony

    SUBJECT: BEDTIME STORIES

    Hey Fans!

    After hearing about the group in NYC that is going to go to the midnight

    sale of the album, in their pajamas, A bunch of us fans in Minneapolis

    are going to do the same. We have called the news stations and the paper

    to get some press. I hope to have about 40-50 people there so if you are on

    the list in the Minneapolis area, mail me and we will give you the details.

    ---

    Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 23:31:58 -0500

    From: rob (at) snuffy.penfield.ny.us (Rob Smith)

    Subject: BEDTIME STORIES, etc.

    I can't believe the album will be out by this time next week(baring stupid

    fucks who "don't know when it's coming out" - please...everybody and their

    freakin' uncle knows its NEXT TUESDAY, OCTOBER 25!!!) MTV News showed bits

    of a recent interview filmed in Paris (Jean Pauls' show - Kennedy (you

    know, Roseanne's best friend (ha!) was in the show!!!) and she spoke of how

    that with this album she is leaning more torwards the romantic aspects of

    her work, but that she will never give up or avoid her strong use of sexual

    themes. Unfortunately, I don't have the interview word for word, but for

    all of you who missed it or want to see it again, I'm sure it wil run again

    this week and on the weekend news (around the same time that BBC thing is

    going to be on - anyone who sees that exclusive interview - we want

    details!!!)

    P.S. Oh yeah, Madonna...um..may be expecting soon (!?!)

    A husband and a baby (!?!)

    ---

    Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 12:10:35 -0400

    From: bdaher (at) magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Brian D Daher)

    Subject: FNEWS -> Next single from Bedtime Stories

    I thought this news article would be of interest to you.

    --- Brian D Daher

    Path: magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!swiss.ans.net!newstf01.cr1.aol.com!newsbf01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail

    From: henryjg (at) aol.com (HenryJG)

    Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna

    Subject: Next single from Bedtime Stories

    Date: 20 Oct 1994 11:15:05 -0400

    Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)

    Lines: 21

    NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf01.news.aol.com

    I just read the following message on the very active Madonna message board

    on America Online's Warner Bros. forum. Thought y'all might be interested:

    Subj: TIME FOR "BED" CHILDREN... 94-10-19 02:30:11 EDT

    From: PRINCE 543

    The next single has been chosed-it's the Babyface/Madonna ballad, "Take A

    Bow" (I notice that

    Smedley 4 hasn't alerted us to this yet (no disrespect oh elequent

    one....)if you think you've heard her greatest song ever, hold your

    breath...THIS IS IT! WOW! Think Christmas, snow on the ground, people

    shopping...all that wintery stuff-this will be the song we hear everywhere

    this holiday. The cd also has a limited edition version (soft velour light

    blue cover)

    with enclosed slipcase for the booklet...nothing really too special...but

    nice anyway...the official cd has a powder blue inlay tray....do tell, is

    it true that a promo only 12" vinyl version of the lp is coming out in

    powder blue vinyl? Can't wait to get our hands on those...! By the way,

    the sticker for the new promo cd

    of "Secret Mixes" is bright pink, with blue lettering.

    ---

    Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 13:06:17 -0400 (EDT)

    From: Ed Sadtler <ehs12 (at) columbia.edu>

    Subject: Re: Next single from Bedtime Stories

    I am surprised that the ballad "Take A Bow" has been chosen as the

    album's second single rather than the dance number "Bedtime Story"

    cowritten by Bjork. Following the mid-tempo "Secret" with a ballad is

    certainly an unorthodox sequence of releases (Madonna has always

    had a dance tune in the first two releases from an album). Of course,

    "Secret" doubles as both a mid-tempo and dance tune since the faster

    remix is getting widespread airplay.

    So far we know the album contains at least two ballads: "Inside Of Me"

    and "Take A Bow." There is probably a third (and many even a fourth): any

    conjectures as to which one?

    Does anyone know when the Limited Edition version of "Bedtime Stories" will

    be available?

    ---

    Date: Fri, 21 Oct 94 0:29:49 PDT

    From: amedrano (at) euclid.ucsd.edu (Archie Medrano)

    Subject: I got BEDTIME STORIES!!!

    Oh my God!!!!!!!!!!

    I went to the Madonna Bedtime Stories Listening Party tonight and

    I won the CD for answering the question:

    "What was Madonna's full name in 1988?"

    I also showed my OMFC card and Karen K (Q106) mentioned it!!!

    I am now listening to the whole CD, whose tracks are:

    1. Survival

    2. Secret

    3. I'd Rather Be Your Lover

    4. Don't Stop

    5. Inside of Me

    6. Human Nature

    7. Forbidden Love

    8. Love Tried to Welcome Me

    9. Sanctuary

    10. Bedtime Story

    11. Take a Bow

    ---

    Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 09:38:06 +0100 (MET)

    From: hw39920 (at) is1.bfu.vub.ac.be (de coninck steve)

    Subject: Madonna on television

    Big time for European Madonna addicts ! Next Sunday BBC1 broadcasts an

    interview by Ruby Wax and on Monday the British Radio 1 airs an

    interview by Simon Mayo in Paris (but I can't capture Radio 1, damn). And :

    ON NOVEMBER 2 (that's a Wednesday) MTV Europe gives an exclusive interview

    with Madonna in MTV News. Something to remember !

    By the way : in an hour the record shops open their doors. So I'll have

    my copie of 'Bedtime Stories' within 60 minutes ! I'm so looking forward

    to it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ---

    Date: Sat, 22 Oct 1994 13:57:56 -0400 (EDT)

    From: dhanna (at) sas.upenn.edu (David B Hanna)

    Subject: _Bedtime Stories_ limited edition info

    If you don't want to know what the new album is like then don't read this

    post. (I decided to put this spoiler alert in just in case anyone wants

    to be surprised by the album... And don't worry, you really will be!)

    I have it! (The limited edition!) I feel so cool.

    To reiterate, it is kinda like a digipak but has a powder blue velvet

    cover with simply "Bedtime Stories" written on it in the same typeface as

    the "Secret" single and nothing else, not even on the spine. The sleeve is

    the one that would be in normal releases (I guess) and it is in a pocket

    on the inside.

    The guy I got it from said that it has been deleted already and won't be

    available for release. Now I don't know if he was just trying to get me

    to buy it or if this is true. (But before anyone asks, I can't get you a

    copy. He had gotten three somehow and he sold one already before I

    gotmine just an hour ago. The other one he is keeping for himself. And

    he swore me to secrecy that I wouldn't tell anyone that I had it. I'm

    already breaking my promise :)

    Yeah I mean the packaging itself is not all THAT great but it's different!

    And so is the music itself... I had heard that, you know, it was really

    R&B driven and all that and slow but still I was really surprised. (I

    have only heard snippets of the songs as I listened to it in the store.)

    "Survival" has Niki and Donna singing and that's the only song they are on.

    The Babyface songs, "Take a Bow" and I forget the other one, are very

    typical of his stuff, I think, though I'm not an expert. Upon first

    hearing them, they are so boring, "Take a Bow" sounds like any other Toni

    Braxton song. But I've only heard them once so maybe this will change?

    If "Take a Bow" really is the next release, I think I'll be disappointed

    -- I mean, how many ballads can she release in a row?? (OK "Secret" is

    not a ballad but what about "Bad Girl" "Rain" "I'll Remember")

    By the way only on the Babyface songs is Madonna credited last in writing

    and producing credits. (And good reason too I think!)

    "Bedtime Story" is like music I listen to sometimes when I'm not

    think she is trying to sound like her, or maybe it's the influence of

    Nellee Hooper.

    This song and the one before it she really does not sond like herself

    (actually on most of the album). She really changes her voice and it's

    really... different... that's the word. I think the album just takes some

    getting used to as I haven't really listened to this kind of music (R&B)

    for a while, though "Bedtime Story" is not R&B but more... I guess house

    I'm not sure and I've only heard it once.

    The dance songs are cool but lots o bass!

    Lots of samples too including perplexingly enough "Back and Forth" by

    Aaliyah (I have never heard this song) or however you spell it. And the

    Isley Brothers.

    The "Oops, sorry" song (I can't remember the real title) she sings in a

    weird voice too unlike anything she's ever done. The lyrics that have

    been posted (Don't hang your shit on me etc) is in the intro and is not

    included on the printed lyrics. But there are lyrics for this song.

    Yes the album is very very different. I think I have to listen to it a

    few hundred more times to really make comments about it.

    Hmmm what else pictures in the sleeve are from the same shoot as the

    cover that is at the IUMA and AOL archives and from _The Face_ so don't

    expect anything that great. They kinda show her age.

    And the artwork I assume (I forgot to check and I dropped off the disc at

    home) is by Fabien Baron because it's in the same style as the _Erotica_

    CD -- you know, big letters that say "Bedtime Stories".

    I dunno it seems as if I am not as excited as I thought I would be (even

    though I went out today on a Saturday in search for it and I found it!).

    Maybe because I already listened to the disc at the store or maybe

    because I am not listening to it right now or maybe because I am just

    bored with music in general I don't know. (Or maybe it's because of

    those silly Babyface songs! :)

    Well sorry for the super long post hope that I gave you something

    interesting to read. I'd also appreciate it if no one xposted this to

    alt.fan.madonna or the AOL board. Let's just keep this between us, OK?

    Like, a little... secret (how lame).

    Dave

    dhanna (at) mail.sas.upenn.edu

    PS Last month I got the Ciccone Youth (Sonic Youth) covers of "Burnin'

    (sic) Up" and "Into the Groovey (sic)" and let me tell you Into the Groovey

    is really groovy!!! (Why do I seem more excited about this than the new

    album. That's OK all you people will love the new album I'm sure!!!!

    And so will I.)

    ---

    Date: Sat, 22 Oct 1994 17:35:01 -0500 (CDT)

    From: BWG001 (at) ACAD.DRAKE.EDU

    Subject: bedtime came early today

    Hi Everybody,

    I got Bedtime Stories today and it's great! (I'm sorry Joe, i know you said

    not to post messages like that.)

    Anyway, I don't have any special connections or anything, I just went looking

    for it at a fairly small store and it was right in the front of the new releasesso anybody could buy it. They'd already sold about 4 copies of it and it had

    only been in the store for about an hour.

    If you really can't wait any longer, call around to a few small stores and you

    should be able to find it.

    It's a really new sound for Madonna but I like it. I'm anxious to hear every

    body's opinion.

    ---

    Date: Sat, 22 Oct 1994 16:23:24 -0400 (EDT)

    From: Brian D Daher <bdaher (at) magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>

    Subject: Bedtime Shorties

    I can't believe how many people have copies of Bedtime Stories already!! My

    screen is blue, but my aura is green. To those with copies, is she still

    "talking" her way through a lot of her songs? I was getting kind of sick of

    it, although I can't blame her, she doesn't want to kill herself in concert and

    talking seems a little easier on the voice I guess. I haven't heard anyone say

    she did a lot of spoken lyrics. AFter reading the above, I hope no one gets

    the impression that I'm NOT the world's largest Madonna fan, I am!!

    I simply just cannot wait for this album and therefore, I'm going up to the

    tower with my rifle and I'm going to start taking people out. Well, almost.

    TUESDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for the normal and average person

    without connections of course.

    Til' Tuesday....

    ---

    Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 18:40:21 -0500 (CDT)

    From: BWG001 (at) ACAD.DRAKE.EDU

    Subject: Early to Bed?

    Hi everybody,

    I was in a local record store today...one that I frequent quite a bit, and the

    owner told me that if I showed up tomorrow around noon I'd be able to get

    Bedtime Stories early. Usually I'd just wait to get it on Tuesday because

    I know it's not legal to sell things before the release date but I have a reallystrong feeling that I'll be over at the store promptly at noon because this

    waiting is driving my crazy. Anyway, I guess the point of this is, is anybody

    else know of record stores that tend to sell things early and if you do, are

    you going to get the new album before Tuesday? Does anybody else have an

    opinion on this?

    ---

    Date: Sat, 22 Oct 1994 12:08:00 +0100

    From: TENGKU AZAR ISMAIL <tai2 (at) aber.ac.uk>

    Subject: madonna on air

    Well.... guess what, yesterday, Radio One FM (BBC) has been playiing the album

    tracks from Bedtime Stories all day. Unfortunately Friday is my worst day -

    packed with classes and lectures. But I still manage to listen to "I'd Rather

    Be Your Lover" and "Take A Bow" ... and Secret, and Cherish too! So, there you

    go - 4 Madonna songs between 9.00 am to 7.00 pm. (But I wasn't listening

    between 10.30 am to 5.00 pm. So, who knows.. there might have been more!

    ---

    Date: Sat, 22 Oct 94 11:25:47 EDT

    From: August A Galifi <s0185304 (at) hawkmail.monmouth.edu>

    Subject: Secret on the Shore

    Well my luscious friends:

    I was in The Wiz down here on the jersey shore and they had a great

    Madonna display for Bedtime Stories. They had this huge stand-up poster like

    display of the album cover taht was taller than me (I am 5'10"). On it it

    said,"Pssst...wanna hear a Secret? Madonna's got one for you on October 25."

    I thought it was very cool. So anyway, I asked the sales guy if anyone

    had layed claim to the display. he said no, wrote my name and numberon the

    back of it

    and said I could have it when the promotion was over. Could be awhile but who

    knows?

    ---

    Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 15:56:00 -0400 (EDT)

    From: RHA_ST703648 (at) emuvax.emich.edu

    Subject: Attention Ann Arbor,MI Fans

    Hey all, it is highly unlikely that any fans close to Ann Arbor Mi are on

    the list, but if you ar listen up! Tower Records of Ann Arbor has agreed to

    stay open til a little after 12am On MondayNight/Tue Morning for Madonna's

    release. If you are in the area. GET THERE AT 11:30 so they will have to stay

    open.

    To all: Just read a fantastic review of "Bedtime Stories" in the Detroit

    Free Press. It was a great article, and an interview w/ M. One of the things

    she said was in refrence to "Material Girl", she said that " I will never sing

    that song again" Interesting???

    ---

    Date: Sat, 22 Oct 94 23:39 EST

    From: Adam Perkins <0006921880 (at) mcimail.com>

    Subject: Domestic Releases

    To Whom This May Concern,

    I have been a loyal fan of Madonna's for quite awhile. Only recently

    did I discover the mind-boggling range of versions of individual singles

    available. For instance, a single (with two songs) is released in the US. At

    the same time, an expanded version of a single, AND a maxi-single version, are

    released to Europe, Japan, Australia, etc. This recently happened with

    "Secret", with the following tracks sold in the US:

    "Secret (album version)"

    "Secret (instrumental)"

    But, at the same time, this was sold in the UK and Germany as the regular

    single:

    "Secret (album version)"

    "Secret (edit)"

    "Let Down Your Guard (rough mix edit)"

    "Secret (instrumental)"

    And, soon after, the following was released as the European maxi-single:

    "Secret (Junior's luscious single mix)"

    "Secret (Junior's extended luscious club mix)"

    "Secret (Junior's luscious dub)"

    "Secret (Junior's sound factory mix)"

    "Secret (Junior's sound factory dub)"

    Why are the American audiences always shafted? It's not like you are

    making more money because we have to import these CD's. The extra money we

    spend goes to the distributors, not you. I would really like to understand

    this, so can someone please explain it to me? The same complaint that is above

    also holds true for release dates. "Bedtime Stories" was available the week

    before to Europeans-why should we have to wait to enjoy Madonna's new album?

    These issues are not confined to Maverick records, so don't get me wrong.

    I realize that this is not just a product of music companies, but effects the

    entire entertainment industry. I am writing this letter to express to you that,

    although I can do without an extra few seconds of a movie, I find it hard to

    accept that there are Madonna songs out there that I have never heard, and

    maybe never will. I just wish that since you at Maverick Records know that your

    main artist, Madonna, has such a loyal fan following, that you might make it

    easier for us to love and appreciate such a fantastic artist.

    Thank You,

    Adam Perkins

    PO Box 831

    Kennebunk, ME 04043-0831

    via the INTERNET: 692_1880 (at) MCIMAIL.COM

    PS-A copy of this letter is being sent to the Madonna Mailing List, on the

    INTERNET,which can be accessed at MADONNA (at) MIT.EDU. This forum for public

    discussion about Madonna, and all that that includes, is an excellent source

    for fan opinions on this and other topics.

    ---

    Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 10:50:57 -0500

    From: dhanna (at) mail.sas.upenn.edu (David B Hanna)

    Subject: More _Bedtime Stories_

    More on the album...

    I am kinda disappointed with it... I don't think I've ever felt this way

    after getting a new Madonna album... I'm just not a big fan of R&B-type

    shtick and those Babyface songs are really formulaic. Oh well... some

    songs are really good, though. And if they release ambient mixes of

    "Bedtime Story" I think I will be in heaven. Though that would be really

    weird if Madonna released some ambient stuff... I think it would be nicer

    if more of the album sounded like "Bedtime Story" b/c ambient is the wave

    of the future *swoon*.

    Enough posting for me. Hope you all, at least, like the new album!

    ---

    Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 05:26:48 -0500

    From: rob (at) snuffy.penfield.ny.us (Rob Smith)

    Subject: USA TODAY Review!!!

    YES!!! Friday's edition of USA TODAY gave Madonna's BEDTIME STORIES 3 and

    a half stars out of four!!! Fucking awesome!!! It mentions several tunes,

    and calls 'Human Nature' "the best cut". I guess we will all find out

    Tuesday!!!

    ---

    Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 22:39:10 +1000 (EST)

    From: Evan Spurway <ev (at) insane.apana.org.au>

    Subject: Another copy of BS

    I happily purchased my copy of Bedtime Stories a few hours ago (released

    Down Under first!). Definately a contrast to most other M material and I

    must say that it is slightly disappointing that there are no dance

    tracks.

    It may take a while to 'settle into' this album especially if you are

    used to a more up beat Mo.

    Do you have comments on the Secret remixes.. are there many

    'dancier' tracks on the remixes?

    ---

    Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 10:26:58 -0400 (EDT)

    From: AVERYM (at) queen.lsc.vsc.edu

    Subject: B.S. reviews

    I hope you all are axious for the release of BS tomarrow (tues).

    I read two decent reviews that I thought you would be interested in seeing.

    US magazine has few but good words to say about the cd. USA Today (SAt/Sun)

    has a wonderful review of the pop diva's seventh full record.

    Well boys and girls, i'm sure that there will a lot to say over the internet

    tomarrow. Good luck and happy listening.

    Avery

    PS Listen up for Bedtime Story, the

    title track to be released soon!

    ---

    Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 18:41:22 +0800 (WST)

    From: Cheryl Dane-Stewart <girlie (at) tartarus.uwa.edu.au>

    Subject: I Got bedtime Stories!

    Hi all!

    I Just got 'Bedtime Stories' and I'm on my second way through it. It's

    pretty good, but I think it will take a while to get to really like all

    the songs. My favourites are 'Human Nature' (definitely a Madonna song

    in its attitude and style) and 'Take a Bow". I'm disappointed there are

    no real dance tracks on the album, not of the likes of 'Express

    Yourself' or 'Vogue' anyway.

    Can't wait to hear what the rest of you guys think. I also can't

    believe that the album was released in Downunder before the States.

    It's nice to know we're ahead of you in some things, not just time.

    Oh, and for all of you who debated the line happiness lies in your own

    hand, you're going to love 'I'd Rather Be Your Lover.'

    ---

    Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 11:41:16 +0000 (GMT)

    From: "Ms A. Roberts" <A.Roberts (at) liverpool.ac.uk>

    Subject: Mads&Ruby

    Hi all

    I don't know if everyone was fortunate enough to catch the interview last

    night but it was pretty good. Ruby Wax did not ask questions, she was

    trying to give Madonna advice on ageing, wrinkles and double chins Madonna

    just screamed with laughter through most of it. I was slightly dissapointed

    as There was no mention of her album or any future tours but I got over this

    it was good seeing Madonna so happy.

    There was alot of talk about babies and love, I think Mads may have someone

    hidden away, she looked really good and as I say very happy.

    Ruby had a rummage through Madonna suit case and personal hand bag she carrys

    some strange things around with her e.g. crotchless knickers & bra, blow

    bubbles, cabbage patch doll and then the usual things.

    I would like to report in more detail but I have to go - I am in work!

    ---

    Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 15:02:41 -0700 (PDT)

    From: tgo (at) netcom.com (Thomas Go)

    Subject: NY TIMES & MADONNA!!!!

    For those of you who live in the NY area, pick up the NY Times.

    There is a review/interview with Madonna and Bedtime Stories. After

    reading the article you do get a sense of how Madonna is feeling these

    days.."loniness". It's a great article which goes through her phases.

    There are 5 great pictures of Madonna, one from her Virgin year,

    the other is a pic. of her in Material Girl, another in BA with the

    pony tail, lastly one from GS, one more pic. of her in 1994. with heavy

    dark eye shadows.

    What is interesting about this article is that it said,

    That she'll have more TV appearence and an eventual tour to go with the

    album, though she hasn't plan it yet. She continues to run her company,

    Maverick. One project is a film based on Arlyne Brickman's life as a

    Mafia Bookkeeper. For those of you who is interested in this story line

    ...it said it is described in Teresa Carpenter's book "Mob Girl".

    Those of you who could get this article get it and read it...it

    really provide you a lot of insight of Madonna and her personilty. In

    the article I found out that the floor above her has a lot of boxer

    pictures...and the biggest pic. with Muhammad Ali with something saying

    we love you Madonna.:) She also has a painting from Picasso.

    One thing is that the new album sounds like it'll have more R&B to it..

    but how it it not.:)...I think the subtitle of this article is "Return

    to innocence".

    Can't wait till tuesday!!! BS!!!!!!

    ---

    Date: Mon, 24 Oct 94 10:27:09 EDT

    From: bn (at) phantom.com (B Lee)

    Subject: Reminder!

    Hello guys and Brian Daher in ohio stae:

    a Reminder..tonight MTV 9:30 pm EST, there is a Madonna's

    Special! So don't miss it..

    ---

    Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 18:50:28 -0400 (EDT)

    From: Ed Sadtler <ehs12 (at) columbia.edu>

    Subject: Tower Release

    I have confirmed that Tower Records at 66th and Broadway will be open at

    midnight tomorrow to sell copies of Bedtime Stories! Everyone in the New

    York area come and prepare yourselves to be "tucked in" that evening by

    Madonna's new album.

    Happiness is when "Bedtime Stories" lies in my hands!

    ---

    Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 13:49:18 -0700

    From: chaney.35 (at) postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (mick chaney)

    Subject: bedtime nightmares

    well you all who have the cd already.....SUCK!!!!! i have to wait til

    tomorrow. so do not fret brian you and i in columbus home of the

    ohio-state cow patties will be the last 2 to get it. in the mean time i

    will this to my janet jackson cd. just a joke

    ---

    Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 19:59:45 -0400

    From: VIPE428 (at) aol.com

    Subject: Here's the Mercury article!

    DESPERATELY SEEKING SOMETHING

    RICHES, FAME -- MADONNA HAS IT ALL. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN SHE STILL DOESN'T

    WANT SOMETHING MORE

    First of two parts

    By SHERYL GARRATT

    Special to the Mercury News

    'THAT'S near Madonna's house,'' says the cabby as I read out the Miami

    address. ''It is Madonna's house,'' I reply, so impressed by this information

    that I'm unable to speak for the rest of the journey.

    We swing past Sylvester Stallone's home and then pull up in front of a

    smaller, more anonymous one. The only indication that someone famous lives

    here are the black cloths draped behind the gates to block the view. As I

    press the buzzer, a Jeep pulls up.

    ''Say hey to Madonna for me,'' the driver yells cheerily as the gates swing

    open to a driveway flanked by a tall, straight avenue of palm trees leading

    to a lighted fountain. At the gatehouse, a shadowy, black-clad figure that I l

    ater learn is the caretaker, Albert, points me toward the house, and as I get

    there, another man in black jeans and T-shirt swings open the entrance

    grille. Madonna's assistant isn't here, he says, but she won't be long. I sink

    into an overstuffed sofa in the living room, and he disappears. I'm on my

    own in Madonna's house.

    Once the request for an interview had been granted, this had all been

    remarkably easy. There were no pre-conditions as is often the norm these

    days.

    As Madonna is later to tell me, ''I'm a big girl. If I don't want to answer a

    question, I can just tell you.''

    Celebrities rarely let journalists into their homes. Nor do they generally

    hand out their phone numbers or invite you over to play with their stereo

    while they're out. I'm still convinced that this is some sort of test, that

    I'm being watched. I start to feel ridiculous sitting so rigidly, and I have

    a look around.

    The house is beautiful in a simple, expensive yet unostentatious way. The

    furniture is tasteful, minimal and comfortable.

    Downstairs a large, cool living room leads to a formal dining room at one

    end, an office/TV room at the other. Doors open onto the garden. The

    impression is neat, ordered, free of clutter, but lived-in, too -- this is no

    showcase home.

    Finally, Madonna's assistant, Caresse Henry, arrives, full of apologies, calli

    ng out until Madonna's new puppy, Pepito, comes tumbling downstairs to join

    us. A handsome, playful, white pit bull, he was a present for Madonna's 36th

    birthday two weeks before, and is so intent on sniffing, licking and jumping

    that he has to be taken away again before I can listen to the record.

    It's hard to judge music when you hear it once, but what I heard of ''Bedtime

    Stories,'' the new record, sounded good. Some of it sounded great. It's a

    more mature sound. There are songs here, not the dance-based doodles of

    ''Erotica.''

    Four of the tracks are produced by Nellee Hooper, and one of these --

    ''Bedtime Story'' -- was written by him with Icelandic songstress Bjork.

    Babyface wrote two tracks, singing backing vocals on ''Forbidden Love.'' The

    rest were by R&B songwriters/producers Dallas Austin and Dave Hall. The theme

    is not sex but love.

    Henry and I talk about the new album. ''Did you really like it?'' she asks

    anxiously. ''Maybe people will write something nice now. I just hope they'll

    all go and pick on someone else for a change.''

    The unease in the Madonna camp is understandable. These have not been an easy

    two years. Since the release of ''Truth or Dare,'' it seems she can do little

    right.

    TRUTH OR DARTS

    Proud of the film documenting her ''Blonde Ambition'' tour, she had granted

    more interviews than ever before, and familiarity bred contempt. Even more

    hype surrounded the release of her ''Sex'' book, followed by the

    disappointing ''Erotica'' album and the critically panned film ''Body Of

    Evidence,'' all of which were seen as signs of her decline.

    Tabloid stories this year have portrayed Madonna as a sad, sagging figure

    resorting to lesbian affairs to hide her loneliness. An ill-judged appearance

    on David Letterman's late-night talk show in which frequent vulgarities were

    used led to a similar thrashing.

    The usual remedy for American celebrities is the confessional: some

    expression of regret, followed by the public airing of a hitherto private

    problem. But Madonna is not up for such staged soul-searching. Instead, she

    has a theory.

    ''I'm being punished,'' she tells me calmly after we meet the next day. ''I'm

    being punished for being a single female, for having power and being rich and

    saying the things I say, being a sexual creature -- actually, not being any

    different from anyone else, but just talking about it. If I were a man, I

    wouldn't have had any of these problems. Nobody talks about Prince's sex

    life, and all the women he's slept with. . . . I'm being punished for having

    a sex life. For enjoying it and for saying that I enjoy it. I really think

    it's that simple.''

    The Madonna I meet is nothing like the Madonna in her photographs: She looks

    younger, smaller. This Madonna has short, yellow-blond hair slicked back from

    a very pretty face with minimal make-up: black mascara, red lipstick. She is

    wearing a long black dress, black bra peeping fashionably out between the

    narrow straps, high-heeled mules, a pale blue ribbon tied round one ankle. She

    is relaxed, friendly and has a loud, open laugh.

    INTO THE GROOVES

    Nellee Hooper, she says, was a logical choice for the new album. And

    ''Bjork's album is one of my favorite for years -- it's brilliantly

    produced.''

    Lyrically, I say, there's not so much about sex and more about . . .

    ''Romance,'' says Madonna. ''Or the loss of. Unrequited love.''

    Has the sex theme gone as far as it can?

    ''I tried to make a statement about feeling good about yourself and exploring

    your sexuality, but people took it to mean that everyone should go out . . .

    and have sex with everyone, and that I was going to be the leader of that. So

    I decided to leave it alone. . . . Sex is such a taboo subject, and it's such

    a distraction that I'd rather not even offer it up.''

    The night before we met, while I was at her house listening to the record,

    Madonna was at the mall. She went to a movie with one friend, no bodyguard.

    People stared. Three girls sitting in front turned around to ask if anyone

    had ever told her she looked a lot like Madonna. And Madonna said yes,

    actually, she heard it all the time.

    It's easier to do in Miami than anywhere else, she says, but she goes out

    like this often.

    ''I don't care if there's 60 people outside my apartment in New York, I'm

    going out for a walk, and if they follow me, they follow me. I will not be a

    prisoner.' ''

    But isn't that dangerous?

    ''I don't think about it. I just do it. I can't afford to be so careful, to

    cut myself off from the rest of the world. . . . People always say to me,

    'Aren't you frightened? Where's your bodyguard?' But it's all of that that

    attracts attention, and I just can't function that way.''

    The next film Madonna wants to see is ''Priscilla, Queen of the Desert.'' The

    best she's seen recently is ''Spanking the Monkey.'' Before that, the last

    one she really loved was ''The Piano.'' Knowing this, her last two choices of

    acting roles make more sense. Both must have looked great on paper.

    Her co-stars in ''Body of Evidence'' were Willem Dafoe and Joe Mantegna, both

    acclaimed actors. The director was Uli Edel, known for the art-house hits

    ''Christiane F'' and ''Last Exit To Brooklyn.''

    TRUE BLECCH

    The story -- about a woman who may or may not have deliberately killed her

    rich, aging lover with adventurous sex -- appealed to Madonna, and she liked

    the plot twists. But in the last week of shooting, the ending was changed.

    ''I fought it every step of the way,'' she says. ''But I had no control.

    Woman who has sex must die: That is the theme of that movie, but it wasn't

    that way to begin with.''

    What the critics wrote was that Madonna was awful. She isn't particularly

    good. But her co-stars aren't any good either. ''I got the blame for

    everything,'' she says. ''It was like I wrote it, produced it, directed it

    and I was the only one acting in it.''

    Her next film, ''Dangerous Game,'' was produced by her own company, Maverick,

    and again had a strong team: Abel Ferrara and Harvey Keitel, fresh from their

    success with ''The Bad Lieutenant.'' Madonna plays a TV actress who sleeps

    with the director (Keitel) and the lead actor (James Russo) during the film

    she is making. As the director, Keitel shouts at Madonna, telling her that

    she can't act, that she's worthless. I wonder why she subjected herself to

    this, and she insists that she didn't.

    ''In the original film, I turn it around,'' she says, explaining that in the

    script her actress character manipulates both director and actor, destroying

    their De Niro/Scorsese type friendship, and emerges a new star. ''I know a

    lot of people have that point of view about me in real life, so I thought I

    could take that and do a great performance. . . . Even though it's a (bad)

    movie and I hate it, I am good in it.'' Many of those who've seen it agree.

    She has two projects in development right now, both being written specially

    for her. All she'll say is that she's being very, very careful, and will make

    sure this time that the director agrees with her ideas.

    ''I don't have the power in the film industry that I have in the music

    industry,'' she says, explaining that even though Maverick produced

    ''Dangerous Game,'' Ferrara had the final cut. ''The director is the one in

    control. . . . That's what happened to me with Abel. Because it was an

    entirely different movie when I made it -- it was such a great feminist

    statement, and she was so victorious at the end. I loved this character.

    MATERIAL, GIRL

    ''But the way he edited it, he completely changed the ending,'' she says.

    ''He had me killed, which was never supposed to be, and he edited out all the

    brilliant things that I said. . . . When I saw the cut film, I was weeping. .

    . . If I'd have known that was the movie I was making, I would never have

    done it, and I was very honest with him about that. . . . I keep coming to

    the same conclusion: That I have to be a director.''

    Control. Control is the key to Madonna's appeal, and the reason why girls

    especially loved her.

    At a time when feminism seemed to be asking women to choose between pleasure

    or progress, Madonna came along and said you could have it all: power, sex,

    glamour, money. Yet, she says, women have also been her most vocal critics.

    ''There's a whole generation of women -- Courtney Love, Liz Phair, even

    Sandra Bernhard to a certain extent -- who cannot bring themselves to say

    anything positive about me even though I've . . . paved the road for them to

    be more outspoken. . . . But . . . they slag me off any time anybody asks

    what they think of me or compare them to me.''

    And as Madonna gets older, it also becomes apparent that, for the moment at

    least, she hasn't got it all. Her relationships are subjected to the intense

    scrutiny her celebrity invites, and when they end, the media find it hard to

    conceal their pleasure.

    WHO'S THAT GUY?

    Do you think you idealize romance? Madonna laughs. ''Absolutely. Yeah.''

    Will you ever find the romance you're looking for?

    There's a long pause. ''I'll probably never find someone who has everything.

    . . . You read a book like 'Catcher in the Rye' or something Hemingway wrote,

    you see 'The Way We Were' and you go, 'Oh my God, that's the kind of man I

    want, that's everything.' Well I won't find someone that's everything, but I

    want to get pretty damn close. Then I figure my friends can fill in the rest.

    . . .

    ''You want someone that has power, success, talent, but the more success they

    have, the less you're going to see them. I have a crazy schedule, I'm always

    all over the place, so I need someone who's more stable, but then I get . . .

    angry because they're not out being ambitious like I am. It's hard to find

    that middle ground. I'm having a really hard time, you know. Finding that

    perfect person.''

    COMING TUESDAY IN LIVING: Trapped in the spotlight

    ---

    Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 13:49:49 -0400 (EDT)

    From: "Roger Thomas Whiting II" <whiting1 (at) student.msu.edu>

    Subject: Bedtime Stories

    The best song has to be Human Nature. The worst is for sure Don't Stop.

    The in the thanx notes: the Shep Pettibone thing was a hoot.

    ---

    Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 19:35:22 -0400 (EDT)

    From: MCDERMO1 (at) MUVMS6.MU.WVNET.EDU

    Subject: BEDTIME STORIES REVIEW

    BEDTIME STORIES REVIEW

    by Jim McDermott

    ***** (Five stars out of five)

    I thought I'd give my impressions of the new album before reading any of

    the other opinions about it. This will hopefully make my review more

    interesting and unique.

    For those of you who know that I am a staunch Madonna defender, let me say

    that my rating of the album and defense of such is not completely biased! I'll

    try to back up my opinion in the following critique...

    SURVIVAL (****) - A solid work that is catchy and introduces the mood of

    the entire album. It is firmly esconced in the R&B theme, and it has a good,

    steady beat. It seems like one of those songs that you can sing yourself more

    easily than the others on the radio. This might be a release, but probably

    later next year.

    SECRET (*****) - This is, as evidenced by the chart, quite a hit! Madonna

    has a great register, and the beat is danceable, dance track or not. Everybody

    I know loves the song, and it's also one that you can hum and sing with. The

    repetitiveness might initally seem bland, but I believe this is to reemphasize

    the background music which is excellent. Madonna's music is always good because

    the beat, rhythm, etc. are always top notch. (As a note on the video, Madonna

    herself said that the song is about loving yourself (platonically), and not

    really about masturbation. However, to paraphrase something Madonna has said

    earlier about her being a lesbian, "If it's important for you to think it's

    about masturbation, fine. If it's important for you to think it's about

    self-love, fine.")

    I'D RATHER BE YOUR LOVER (*****) - Perfect blend of hip-hop, rap, and pop.

    Madonna's voice virtually oozes from the lyrics while the background harmony in

    the chorus gushes. Madonna holds notes successfully proving that she CAN sing.

    Michelle NdegeOcello's rap fits the song, and doesn't seem a token intrusion to

    the song as most other singers (who shall remain nameless) are apt to do. I had

    previously envisioned this as a duet with Madonna and Michelle, but this song

    didn't disappoint in the least!

    DON'T STOP (****) - It seems like a 70's song at the beginning, and

    gradually emerges as a 90's R&B hip-hop mixture. This is a good, solid song

    that will probably be released as a single sometime next year. It has dance

    potential, and faster remixes would certainly be a hit. Madonna's vocal quality

    and rhythm are good here, and this could be one of those songs that you listen

    to a lot without realizing how much you like it until you turn it off and start

    singing or humming it!

    INSIDE OF ME (*****) - An ethereal, bittersweet melody with lush imagery.

    This is a tribute to lost love that is both sad, and yet full of love and hope.

    The first time I listened to it, it moved me considerably. If I didn't know

    better, I'd think Madonna had read my thoughts and made them a song. This is

    the one song that I think Madonna proves that she can outsing ms. janet on her

    own turf. She seems to almost sound like her at certain points, which is

    altogether fitting consider janet's appropriation of Madonna's style. What's

    good for the goose...!

    HUMAN NATURE (*****) - This is DEFINITELY one of the best songs on the

    album, and one I hope she releases. This is definitely a middle-finger to her

    critics, and - though she has publicly made up with him - one I couldn't help

    associating with David Letterman. ("Oops, I didn't know I couldn't talk about

    sex! 'I must'a been crazy'..."Did I stay too long?") What a great slap in the

    face without being directly insulting. The "I'm not your bitch don't hang your

    shit on me" is a classic! "Express Yourself, don't repress yourself" is bound

    to be the next catch-phrase, and is cool appropriation of her own material.

    This is perfect, considering the hip-hop form she is imitating/parodying. The

    background music does seem like a Snoop Doggy Dog Song, but Snoop never sounded

    this good!

    FORBIDDEN LOVE (****) - This subtle, gorgeous song reminds me of dancing

    in a living room in candlelight with your lover. This song is reminiscent of

    past Divas whose songs often were heard only by a limited audience. To try to

    define the meaning of the song itself would ruin it for each person until

    they have heard it. It's one of those songs that could mean isolation, wants,

    desires, homosexuality, etc. Some people may not think this is a good song, but

    try dancing with your significant other to it, and you'll see why I give it

    four stars!

    LOVE TRIED TO WELCOME ME (*****) - Have I overused the word gorgeous yet?

    This has another bittersweet element that I personally could identify with.

    Isolation, feeling unworthy of love, guilt, redemption, and pain are all

    wrapped up and delivered here. Madonna has never been more in her element,

    artistically. "Love tried to break me...," and the ensuing music interlude were

    perfectly done. This song gave me shivers. I's enough to make you want to hold

    Madonna (if you didn't already) and tell her everything will be o.k., and

    that's she is worthy of love! Though it isn't necessarily autobiographical, the

    delivery is such that she makes you almost forget that.

    SANCTUARY (*****) - This is where Madonna begins her descent into the

    world of grunge and new age music. Eerie, dark, and mysterious, Madonna coos

    about the "darkness in your eyes", and the "ground opening wide", and being

    "buried" within her lover's arms. "Who needs the sun, who needs the sky, who

    needs to sleep" seems almost the antithesis of RAIN's hopefulness upon first

    glance. However, the message seems (almost unbelievably) one of love and

    desire! This song made me think of Madonna as a vampire... (Good idea for a

    video, M, if you're listening!) The subtle mix into Bedtime Story is perfect,

    and completely sets up the mood...

    BEDTIME STORY (*****) - Tied with "Take a Bow" for the best song on the

    album! Madonna finally fufills my hopes, and makes a single that grunge bars

    will probably play! Bjork, Nellee Hooper, and Mrius DeVries did a fantastic job

    on this one! This is truly a "fuck"-song! The mind boggles at all the future

    bumping and grinding that will be done with this one! This mixes imagery with

    the most modern sound we have today. Madonna once again invades a completely

    foreign environment and makes it her own. She is truly the chameleon here,

    blending in just right with the beat to create an unreal, ethereal sound.

    It's an interesting comparison with "Words" from Erotica: "Words are useless,

    especially sentences, they don't stand for anything..."

    TAKE A BOW (*****) - This one made me cry. I admit it. I listened to it,

    and it literally made me weep it was so beautiful. I could picture Madonna

    singing this in a classy nightclub, after walking outside in the falling

    snow... "I've always been in love with you..." started the tears, "no more

    masquerade" made me bring out the tissues, and "you'd break my heart" made

    the tears turn into sobs. A hopeful, I will always love you-type of song that

    is reminiscent of "Sleepless in Seattle" or "An Affair to Remember" (Ironic

    considering Madonna's involvement with Warren Beatty, and his remake, "Love

    Affair." I have a feeling we may have discounted her feelings for him a little

    too easily. This would also be a song for Sean. I don't think she'll ever get

    over him, really. I know how she feels, and she too, is only taking a moment to

    look back and say "I love you" before moving on forever. If she really is

    planning on settling down and having a baby soon, then perhaps this is more

    appropos than we think....)

    ALBUM DESIGN: Beautiful pictures that show Madonna as a real person, but yet

    still the most beautiful looking woman in the world. Humorous, seductive, and

    innocent, she's playing the theme to the hilt. I still say the pink and blue is

    an indicator that she's either pregnant or going to be sometime soon...

    OVERALL IMPRESSION: I can't help but feel that Madonna, despite the hateful

    nature of the critics of the past year, has finally found someone or something

    that is making her extremely happy...This is an album full of love, both

    bittersweet and romantic. It hit me that she really hasn't had a truly lush

    romantic ballad (I'll remember seemed more bittersweet, imo) except for Crazy

    for You, and I think these far outdo that one song. These songs are PERFECT for

    her comeback. I can see them being played on VH-1 over and over, ad infinitum.

    MTV might touch on the rougher ones like Secret (obviously), Bedtime Story, and

    I'd rather be your lover. We'll have to see. The fun part now will to be to see

    the different videos she makes for each. Myself, I could see a video for almost

    every song on the album. However, I'll make a speculative order guess below

    about the individual releases....

    PREDICTIONS:

    1. Secret

    2. Bedtime Story

    3. Take a Bow

    4. Human Nature

    5. Forbidden Love

    6. Don't Stop

    7. Love tried to welcome me

    FINAL ANALYSIS: A fantastic album, a landmark in her career that will certainly

    give her several chances for new #1 hits, and will no doubt reestablish her as

    the queen of pop. I see a tour in the works...

    ---

    Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 09:46:13 -0400 (EDT)

    From: Ed Sadtler <ehs12 (at) columbia.edu>

    Subject: Re: BILLBOARD UPDATE 10/29

    _Billboard_ October 29, 1994

    By now everyone should be enjoying copies of the new C.D....here is an

    update on Madonna's presence on the charts.

    "Secret" ©(D)(V)

    ==========================================================================

    Chart This Week Last Week Weeks on Chart

    ==========================================================================

    Hot 100 Singles Chart 4 4 4

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Hot 100 Airplay 3 3 4

    Hot 100 Singles Sales 14 18 3

    Top 40/Mainstream Airplay 3 4 4

    Top 40/Rhythm Crossover 15 15 3

    Hot Adult Contemporary 10 15 4

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Dance/Club Airplay 18 NEW 1

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    MTV Video Monitor 3 7 2

    VH-1 Video Monitor 2 5 2

    ==========================================================================

    "Secret" holds its #4 position for a second week in a row while the songs

    in the top three spots hold firm for a third week. Although all of

    the songs in the top three are decreasing in points, Billboard commentator

    Michael Ellis notes that due to Boy II Men's larger decreases with

    respect to "All I Wanna Do," Sheryl Crow is a shoe-in for the top spot

    next week. He expects that in the next two or three weeks, Madonna and

    "Another Night," a hit by Real McCoy in the #5 position, will fight it

    out for the top spot.

    "Secret's" failure to exceed the top three is not due to a lack of

    airplay, but rather modest singles sales. "I'll Remember" had the

    same problem in its initial weeks on the chart. If Madonna's singles

    sales do not reach the top 5, there is little chance of her holding the

    top spot. I expect that next week "Secret" will be #3, exceeding "Endless

    Love" but still falling in behind Boyz and Sheryl Crow.

    "Secret" has a strong debut on the Dance/Club Airplay chart at #18,

    without yet the release of a maxi-single.

    MTV certainly seems to have gotten over their reluctance to play Madonna,

    giving her monitored airplay at #3. "Secret" is even stronger on VH-1,

    coming in at #2 in only its second week on the charts.

    "I'll Remember" ©(D)(V)(M)(X)(T) Certified Gold

    ==========================================================================

    Hot 100 Recurrent Airplay 14 9 5

    Adult Contemporary Recurrents 1 1 3

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    VH-1 Video Monitor 25 26 ?

    ==========================================================================

    "I'll Remember continues to have a strong presence on recurrent airplay

    charts and actually rises a spot on the VH-1 video monitor.

    _Bedtime Stories_ will make its Billboard debut in next weeks issue (or

    perhaps the week after). R.E.M.'s monster falls to the #2 spot this

    week, displaced by Boyz II Men who regain their #1 position for a fourth

    week. R.E.M. and Boyz II Men seem to be the only major threats to

    _Bedtime Stories_ debut position...I expect a debut in the top 3,

    hopefully #1. Madonna has not had a #1 album since _Like A Prayer_

    (sebsequent releases all peaked at #2), so this would show that she is truly

    back on top again.

    ================================================================

    Ed Sadtler "Happiness lies in your hand

    Columbia University It took me much too long to understand"

    ehs12 (at) columbia.edu -Madonna

    ------------------------------

    Date: Tue, 25 Oct 94 15:27 EST

    From: Adam Perkins <0006921880 (at) mcimail.com>

    Subject: BS, a body of work

    Well, I'm on my second listen through of BS. The verdict is in:

    MADONNA IS THE QUEEN OF ALL LIVING BEINGS!

    The album is simply brilliant. It looks like Maddie might be returning to

    the Grammy's this year...Although BS as a song dosn't excite me, I'm hoping

    the remixes will. It has the potenitial to really rock...

    Survival was pretty cool...SECRET is obviously old news...I'd Rather Be Your

    Lover rules, maybe the best song on the album. A video with Me'Shell whatever

    would certainly be cool...Don't Stop is very much like Can't Stop, only much

    dreamier. Actually, the whol album is...Inside of Me, well, the jury is out...

    Human Nature was nice, but since I've only heard it once, not much else to

    say...the end of the album is weaker than the first...but as a whole, ALL of

    the songs really fit nicely. I'm sure Inside of Me and some of the other ones

    that weren't as good as IRBYL the first time will grow to be my faves, as

    the songs on EROTICA like Deeper and Deeper, Bad Girl, and Why It's So Hard

    Did.

    The MTV special was tottally unexpected. Comments-some clips were REALLY long,

    especially some of the old vids, which we all have seen OVER AND OVER, not the

    less played stuff. The Truth or Dare doctor visit almost lost me, as The

    Warren is starting to rattle my nerves. The ending was nice, except Maddie

    WORE TO MUCH GODDAMN MAKEUP! I think she could look so much better without

    that eye shadow. I really liked the clips from BAD GIRL, EROTICA, and

    True Blue. (as I posted not long ago that it was DEBI MAZAR in TB)

    Well, that's my opinion, and I don't care about yours... (I'm kidding! :-)

    ---

    Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 15:36:57 -0400 (EDT)

    From: Ed Sadtler <ehs12 (at) columbia.edu>

    Subject: BS First Impressions

    Here are my very first impressions of Bedtime Stories after listening to

    the tracks two or three times each. What do others think?

    "Survival" - A spritely mid to fast tempo tune. Lacks the energy of a dance

    track like "Vogue" or "Erotica," but pleasing to listen to. In the

    lyrics she speaks of "living to tell...my story," an apparent likeness to

    "Live To Tell." Blends sounds of the 70's, 80's, and 90's.

    "Secret" - I love this mid-tempo first release, especially the acoustic

    guitar and madonna's sunlight vocals. One of the album's best tracks.

    the ambiguity of the lyrics adds to the overall sense of mystery and

    provides for a large array of interpretation.

    "I'd Rather Be Your Lover" - Perhaps the funkiest track of Madonna's

    career. The profound influence of Sly and the Family Stone on Madonna's

    work is evident in this track. The bass is great and the refrain is

    catchy, not to mention a sentiment that I can relate to entirely ("we can be

    friends but I'd rather be your lover")

    "Don't Stop" - Like "Survival," sounds as much 80's as 90's in sound. A

    little more R&B influence than usual for Madonna. The production is a

    bit "soft:" a more hardcore dance version is definitely in order.

    "Inside Of Me" - A beatiful ballad, slow but not lagging due to the

    integration of samples from Aaalliyah's "Back And Forth." Madonna's

    reflection on her mother and how, though she is gone, she will always be

    somewhere inside, is genuinely touching. The Madonna who acts like she

    "doesn't care" in the public eye and is crying "when no one is watching"

    definitely fits into the picture I have developed of her as a person in

    the last few years...a person living in darkness and light. One of the best

    tracks on the album, definitely release material.

    "Human Nature" - The most 90's sounding of the albums's eleven tracks.

    The instrumentation even recalls a bit of the gangster rap sound of Snoop

    Doggy Dog, especially at the beginning. Lyrically, Madonna makes a very

    honest statement to the world, one long overdue. "Oops I didn't know I

    could talk about sex." I think this one should definitely be released not

    only because it is a great song but because it will really help people to

    better understand Madonna as a courageous, real person rather

    than a cold exhibitionist.

    "Forbidden Love" - Madonna and Babyface blend their vocals beautifully.

    When Madonna breaks into the refrain, her rich, deep vocals are fantastic.

    The underlying whispering is great too. The theme of "Forbidden Love" is one

    that many can personally relate to. Calls back to the 80's, like many

    other tracks on the album, in Madonna's call to "Wishin' on the Stars."

    Another possible release.

    "Love Tried To Welcome Me" - By this point, the album is losing a

    little momentum with an additional mid-tempo number. But for a song that

    most likely was not intended as release material, it is a satisfying

    addition to the album. Lyrics are at their best when Madonna says

    "Instead of spring-it's always winter and my hear has always been a

    lonely hunter." Madonna paints the picture of a lonely person -

    undoubtably an underlying quality to her life as a star she refers to in

    "The Face" interview.

    "Sanctuary" - Madonna pulls the listener in with a whisphered voice into

    the songs most seductive and mystical track - a song that certainly would

    not have sounded out of place on _Like A Prayer_. Flaunts Madonna's

    knack for giving a love song an intriguing twist, in this case viewing

    her lover as a "sanctuary." The images of burial, light and dark, and

    marriage are powerful. I like to here her talk as well as

    sing...probably the most innovative and one of the best tracks on the

    album.

    "Bedtime Stories" - By now the album is in desparate need of a strong

    dance tune. This song seems on the brink of breaking into a fast paced

    techno tune from the very beginning but never totally takes of...the

    remixes I'm sure will remedy that. The lyrics are unlike anything

    Madonna has sung, but of course she took no hand in writing them...I have

    not figured them out yet but it seems that their is some interest in the

    powers of intoxication, be it by sleep, love, drugs, or all three.

    "Take A Bow" - "Take a bow/The night is over" - no question that this

    song is the ending to an album by the title "Bedtime Stories." Madonna

    calls on her favorite Shakesperean line "all the world is a stage" as

    well as her proverbial referance "say good-bye," that we have heard in

    both "I'll Remember" and "Goodbye To Innocence." The instrumentation is

    distinctly Babyface, a little too Toni Braxton for my taste, but not

    bad. Madonna's claim that this "masquerade is getting older" seems to

    imply some sort of a sundown of her career...but I seriously doubt this is

    her last album (especially given her contract). Any comments on this? In

    any case, a good, though uncharacteristically slow ending. Madonna has

    never before ended an album with a ballad, but it is appropriate to the

    theme of this album.

    Well, if you were patient enough to read all my commentary, thanks. I

    like all of the songs-the album is very consistent-but it is definitely

    very slow, lacking any raging dance number (of course we find

    pounding dance hits on the maxi-single for "Secret" and inevitably will

    on other subsequent dance releases). Clearly, though the album has a

    sleepy quality to it, sharply contrasting anything she has done before.

    BS is as much of an Adult Contemporary album as it is a Top 40/Mainstream

    album, though it does cater to the R&B/Rhythm Crossover crowd with the

    Babyface tracks and "Human Nature." For this reason, the album could

    easily capture mass market appeal, certainly buch broader than _Erotica_

    which alienated the Adult Contemporary and more conservative top 40

    audiences with its boldness and blatent sexual content. If the world is

    willing to except this new incarnation of Madonna after what proceded it,

    the album has the potential to be her biggest success since _Like A Prayer_.

    Just my first impressions...

    ---

    Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 11:47:26 +0100

    From: spapadim (at) di.epfl.ch (Spyros Papadimitriou)

    Subject: BS review

    Hi guys,

    The album is just brilliant. I don't think it's going to have a huge commercial success ( Do you see what she meant now in the FACE interview when she said :

    My fame is going to take a different shape?). Anyway.

    my favourites from the album are: Inside of me

    Forbidden love

    Love tried to welcome me

    Sanctuary

    Bedtime story(dying for the remix)

    Thanx Madonna

    ---

    Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 14:29:53 -0400 (EDT)

    From: zheng wang <zhwang (at) das.harvard.edu>

    Subject: Feeling to BS

    Those who haven't got BS may stop here. (But I feel strange if you haven't!!)

    I feel really good after I listened BS 2 times! (I bought it this am).

    Do you know which one I love the most? "Take a Bow"! maybe because I came

    from China... The beginning & the chorus really like Chinese melody... but

    I cannot remember the song's name! They didn't indicate it... The friend

    who said it's from a 70's Chinese song (Sorry I forgot your name!), is it

    excerpt from a certain Chinese song (What's the name? feel like from Taiwan)

    or just a Chinese-style melody? Can you tell me?

    Survival --- A-

    Secret ---- A

    I'd Rather be your lover --- B-

    Don't Stop --- C (Meaningless)

    Inside of me ---- B+ (What a wonderful voice!)

    Human Nature --- A (Really interesting!)

    Forbidden Love --- B+ (Background vocals are pretty good)

    Love tried to welcome me --- B- (Melody is not satisfactory)

    Sanctuary --- A- (Interesting background sounds)

    Bedtime Stories --- C+ (Not so good as hits in "Erotica")

    Take a Bow --- A

    P.S. In "Bedtime Stories", the "Learning" in lyric is mistaken, is it?

    ---

    Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 03:53:53 -0400

    From: Anestler (at) aol.com

    Subject: MTV special

    It is really cool, 90 minutes including parts of Bad Girl, Erotica and

    Justify My Love videos and a new European interview (she looks disgusting).

    MTV Online says it repeats Sat 3:30 and Sun 2pm

    ---

    Date: Tue, 25 Oct 94 11:32:34 CST

    From: Bring Your Love to Baby Fish Mouth <J372%NEMOMUS.BITNET (at) mitvma.mit.edu>

    Subject: Smooth, really...

    ***********************************************************

    * Everyone should have the album, but if you don't *

    * and you don't want for anyone to ruin the big *

    * surprise(s), DON'T READ THE FOLLOWING POST. *

    * It contains some revealing details about "Bedtime *

    * Stories." *

    ********************************************************

    "Bedtime Stories" is really smooth...which is pretty much what I was

    expecting, since reading the review in "Entertainment Weekly" and

    reading the posts on this list.

    There really are no fast dance tracks on this album! I kind of think

    that perhaps this album is as much of a laid-back groove as much as

    "Erotica" was a total dance pulse. I had an inkling that Madonna was

    going to do more work like she did with Andre Betts, and I think this is

    pretty close.

    "I'd Rather Be Your Lover" simply slams. The beat is sexy and I love the

    bass line (way to go, Me'Shell.) It's so hard to describe why the song

    is good; it just WORKS. I know that generalization is the enemy of all

    art, but Madonna just confounds the ability to specify here...

    "Don't Stop" is a really smooth jam. Great funky guitar! It's a pretty

    upbeat song; it reminds me of the spirit of Madonna's earlier work.

    "Human Nature" is weird...I like the door slams and her whispering, but

    some of her vocal styling rubs me the wrong way.

    I would like to say that "Bedtime Story" really sucks, but I can only

    say that it is disappointing. A collaboration between Bjork, Nellee

    Hooper and Madonna really struck me as intriguing. Instead, there's too

    much Bjork and not enough Madonna. The melody (if that's what you want

    to call it) is pretty weak, but then I've found most of Bjork's work to

    be pretty weak.

    Want to hear a lovely song? "Take A Bow" is that song. It's one of her

    best ballads; Babyface's beat is written all over it, but they work

    really well together on this song.(The other Madonna/Babyface songs left

    me...wanting.) It kind of reminds of a Carpenter's song. Please don't

    shoot. I think it has that bittersweet touch that a lot of their music

    has. I love this song already.

    I guess the other songs have yet to grow on me...but I know that I like

    them. The ones I mentioned just really grabbed me. I know this post is

    pretty self-indulgent, but I thought I would express myself, not repress

    myself. :)

    >BTW, the picture is REALLY bad. Note to Mads-girlfriend, STOP WITH THE EYE

    >SHADOW ALREADY! God, that was a photoshoot, not a remake of Dark Shadows!

    Hold the phone! The whole Patrick Demarchelier shoot was wonderful! I

    happen to LOVE the dark eye makeup look; it's going to be big on models

    in the next year. I looked at these pictures and said "Those who think

    Madonna looks old - EAT THIS." I think she looks great!

    ---

    Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 14:48:42 -0400 (EDT)

    From: "Eric A Walter" <waltere1 (at) student.msu.edu>

    Subject: who else...

    Before I read another post exactly like the one I am about to write, I am going

    to add my two cents, if you please. IMHO, Madonna: A Body Of Work was a

    spectacular effort on the part of MTV. Three cheers! It kinda reminds me of

    her MTV10 performance... they really did grow up together. And how she's grown

    (!!!). I particularly liked the old footage and the fades from old versions of

    videos to new(er) videos. It kind of shows her progression, as does the whole

    show through her videos, the change in her voice (noticable in the interview

    segments), and the growth of her ideas. Brings back all the sweet memories

    that a half-hour Rockumentary could never do. Kudos to MTV's new paean to our

    goddess!!!

    About Bedtime Stories... No one stayed open til midnight around here, so I

    bought it bright and early this morning. I;'ll have to say I was scared by

    everyone's "oh my god, it's really different," and "it's not like her," and

    "Well, it's just not something I'm used to." These aren't exact words, but

    that's the impression I got. I was pleasantly surprised, however, when I

    popped it in the player. I only got to the first three seconds of "Bedtime

    Stories" before I had to go to work. I have yet to hear the last four tracks,

    but I love every song so far. Now, I'm no record reviewer, but I love her

    diversity. She seems to be in a more laid back groove, reminiscent of "Secret

    Garden" and "Where Life Begins." And although not all the lyrics are as

    challenging as I might have expected, her (new?) sound is very smooth and

    mellow. It's a welcome change (not that I don't love her earlier dance tracks

    as well!). Of course, she has her double entendres. Presumably she is talking

    to an insensitive friend/lover in "Human Nature," but she could just as easliy

    be talking about the stick-up-their-ass conservatives who have been bludgeoning

    her since the get-go. Yeah, she gets her little jabs in there (what was I

    thininking... I must have been crazy...).

    Just a question... How might I get a hold of a Limited Edition anything?

    I asked at record stores, and they seem to know nothing of a Limited Edition

    BS Disc.

    Also, for anyone out there who doesn't have it already, I highly recommend

    the CD single of "Secret". "Let Down Your Guard" is on this one, and although

    it took a few runs through, I like it better each time I hear it. I also like

    to sing to the instrumental of "Secret."

    Hats off to our beloved. She's put out another hot one for us (but more

    importantly, for her). I love her dearly for her honesty and her

    perserverance. I know that she'll never fall in my lifetime. I just wonder...

    If a tour is in her future (and I hope she doesn't jump into a tour too soon

    or she'll kill her voice), how is she going to perform a lot of her new songs?

    I have faith she'll come up with something... she'd just better come to more US

    cities this time ! :)

    ---

    Date: Tue, 25 Oct 94 21:59:38 EDT

    From: Supercat <rtj (at) pegasus.rutgers.edu>

    Subject: Bedtime Stories-YOU GO GIRL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Hey all,

    What can I saw about Bedtime Stories: BEST DAMN MADONNA ALBUM EVER!!!

    Move aside "Like A Prayer" (yeah, it "was" my favorite Madonna album) 'cause

    a new thing is in town and its name is "Bedtime Stories". Madonna sure knows

    how to satisfy this fan (you go lady 'cause you are all that and then some!)

    Before I continue my almighty worship of BS, I must first declare what I did

    not (*GASP*) like about it. The title track should not have been on

    here. Sorry folks, but it was so annoying. Well, I think a good remix

    will make it as good as it should have been.

    You should all check out the review of the album in this week's

    "Entertaintment Weekly". I think it correctly depicts what this album

    is all about: The lyics are very autobiographical

    Anyway, let me tell you what is so great about Bedtime Stories:

    1-This album is unlike any other album she have out there. It's

    definately R&B sounding with a bit of hip hop here and there. It

    does not contain dance tunes such as her great dance hits "Vogue" or

    (my personal favorite) "Express Yourself". However, what you will

    discover is that our goddes has venture into a new kinda of music and

    as a result she is able to give us something new, something

    refreshing, something incredible. She has also introduce us to her

    new and improve angelic, beautiful and breathtaking voice!

    2-Album tracks

    My favorite songs (and I have to say songs because I don't have "a"

    favorite) are Inside Of Me, Human Nature, Don't Stop, Secret, Take A

    Bow and Forbodden Love (both produce by Babyface).

    a-Inside Of Me-->take about angelic, our diva sound like an angel in

    this song. The chorus is fantastic especially the way M sings it.

    This would make a perfect single.

    "I will alway have you

    Inside of me

    Even though your're gone

    Love still carries on

    Love

    Inside of me" (take out your tissues: you'll need them:) )

    b-Human Nature--> This is the song that lash out at her critics: in a

    very funny way!! The versus laeding up to the chorus cracks me up.

    It's very funky too. It should be release as a single.

    c-Don't Stop--> here is a smooth dance song. It's something like "Back

    and Forth": it'll make you want to shake you body in a cool manner. No

    it's not a hardcore dance groove as "Vogue" or "Into The Groove" but

    it's good.

    d-Secret--> You all know I'm crazy about this song :) It's one of the

    groovy dance song on here.

    e-Forbidden Love--> Babyface have done it again. With the aid of this

    producer Madonna has created a beautiful song here! the lyics is wick!

    f-Take A Bow--> The same can be said about this babyface contribution.

    It's a sad song that I really got into the first time I listen to it.

    get into the groove of "Take A Bow" all but try not to cry.

    g-I'D Rather Be Your Lover--> well, Madonna I would rather be your

    lover too than just a crazy fan :).

    h-Sanctuary-->It puts me in a good mood! I don't know what else to

    say! You have to hear it to understand.

    i-Survival-it's ok but there is something about it that is perventing

    me from getting into the song. It's a good song nevertheless.

    j-Bedtime Stories--> after listening to it I can now understand why it

    was not the first release.

    Well, those are my brief comments on the album tracks. Again, this

    is my favorite Madonna album and I respect the lady for coming back

    with a bang! Later and enjoy the new Madonna

    Brian (Take A bow)

    P.S. "These are my lips, But they whisper sorrow

    This is my voice, But it's telling lies.

    I know how to laugh, But I don't know happiness

    And I must confess, Instead of spring-it's always winter

    And my heart has always been, A lonely hunter"

    -Madonna-"Take A Bow"

    ---

    Date: Wed, 26 Oct 94 01:44:00 UTC

    From: rain (at) genie.geis.com

    Subject: Bedtime Stories.

    Bought BEDTIME STORIES earlier in the day, and have listened to it 1.8 times

    already. It's probably a little too early for me to get into any heavy

    discussion, but I have mixed feelings about the album. Some of the songs

    feel like revisions of older material -- e.g., "Don't Stop" sounds like a a

    new version of "Everybody." It has basically the same message. Instead of,

    "Get up and dance, c'mon everybody, do your thing," the lyrics here go "Get

    up on the dance floor for everything is groovin'." Even though the

    proverbial dance material isn't present, I don't think I exactly missed it.

    It was overdone in the prior album, and I felt EROTICA didn't work because

    of that (among other reasons). "Love Tried to Welcome Me" would have been

    nicer, if she had stuck to the strings only. But then that awful thumping

    just gets in the way of things. I have yet to hear anyone who uses

    classical musicians with synths effectively, save for maybe Jerry Goldsmith

    and Mark Isham.

    I do like the closing song, "Take a Bow." Nice song and melody, with a

    nice lulling effect. It sounds like a lullaby (soundwise), even though the

    song seems to be more about herself and her fame. Here the synths are put

    to good use (in the others songs, I felt it was a bit intrusive) -- they do

    add that necessary dimension to the song without thumping all around (and

    giving me a headache <g>). The song is perfectly placed at the end, and the

    strings are quite lovely as they fade out to the lyrics, "Say good-bye, say

    good-bye..." So at least there's one song on there I really like. I did

    like the opening track, "Survival." I was pleased to hear Niki and Donna

    again; their voices really complement Madonna's and often gives her songs an

    extra texture that makes it great to listen to.

    I'm not too certain about the mainly R&B influenced material, however. It's

    not exactly my favorite type of music, so I may not appreciate the work as

    much as some others. I also questioned the use of samples; I found that

    fairly intrusive. It also makes for the oddest songwriting credits I've

    seen so far. Anyone who is heard in the song is credited! I never thought

    I'd see Herbie Hancock's name up there with Madonna's.

    ---

    Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 22:26:36 -0400 (EDT)

    From: SMCDOWE1 <SMCDOWE1 (at) ithaca.edu>

    Subject: BS

    I don't know about the rest of you, but I sorta feel sorry for Shep Pettibone.

    He got a little thank you in her credits, but that's all. I mean they've

    worked togehter soooooo much. I hope they pair up again, because he's a good

    producer. let me know what you think.

    ---

    Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 22:29:09 -0500 (CDT)

    From: royster fredrick don <royster (at) ux5.cso.uiuc.edu>

    Subject: Re: BS

    Shep is good with the occasional song, but bad as an entire album

    Producer. I personally felt Erotica was Justify My Love/Rescue ME/Vogue

    changed around. I felt Bad Girl the only compelling song.(Of course this

    is just my opinion) I mean Vogue is definitely one of the best Madonna songs.

    i'm glad to see her going into a new direction, but would have at least

    like to hear one or two dance numbers. As for Dont Stop, I loved it.

    Sometimes you just like hearing a song that makes you dance, not one that

    specificaly makes you think a lot, but just grooves(Why do you think

    people like mindless pop like Ace oF Base).

    ---

    Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 02:56:45 -0400

    From: DMIN6405 (at) aol.com

    Subject: BS

    Well, I know this is the millionth time someone on this list has said this,

    but I LOVE BEDTIME STORIES!! So far my faves are Survival, I'd Rather Be

    Your Lover, Forbidden Love, Love Tried to Welcome Me, Bedtime Story, and of

    course, one of her best ever, Take A Bow. Actually, the only song I really

    don't care for is Sanctuary. Maybe it'll just have to grow on me, but I

    don't really like it now.

    A question though:

    In one of the songs with Babyface(Forbidden Love? I think)

    while M is singing, you can hear a male's voice (presumably Babyface's) in

    the background softly singing or saying something. Well, I just wanna know,

    do any of you know the words he says/sings? I can't figure them all out!

    Hey! I also got up early today, just to grab a copy of BS when the store

    opened. My one day a week to sleep late(I have a 1:00 class), and I woke up!

    But it was worth it!

    ---

    Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 22:00:07 EST

    From: "CORY BOYD" <BO921359 (at) arus.ubishops.ca>

    Subject: huh?

    i am really surprised at the number of people who are disappointed

    with the cd (ok, not that many were, but i'd expect none) and i was especially

    surprised how many people who did like it, didn't like the title

    track. this and human nature were by far my two favorites and i think

    the bjork influence is obvious and wonderful. bedtime stories (the

    song) is new ground for madonna and i think she handles it

    beautifully.

    and if anyone cares, i give it **** 1/2 out of five and say it has

    bumped like a prayer and become my favorite album, and not just because

    it's new. i really like the new sound and think it's her most

    creative work yet.

    ---

    Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 00:37 EDT

    From: WSEIFRIED (at) middlebury.edu

    Subject: I finally listened to it!!!

    Hi guys! I'm new on the net and this is my first message. So, I'll try

    and keep it short cause I know how it feels to get like 200 messages a day

    on my account.

    First off, I'd like to say the new album is simply divine. It will take getting

    used to, but it is definitely a breath of fresh air. I do agree, however,

    with those who would have liked a few more dance tracks.

    Take a Bow is absolutely the best song on the album! I think they get

    progressively better(w/the exception of Bedtime Story- which is good, don't

    get me wrong) throughout the entire album, the best ones starting w/#6.

    Two questions. Does anyone else think that Bedtime Story has a style similar

    to that of Tori Amos? Also, what famous person does Madonna look like on

    the cover(besides herself!)? My non-Madonna fan friends have said Marilyn

    Monroe and Delta Burke(blech!) Any thoughts on this? :rotfl:

    ---

    Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 05:44:02 -0400

    From: DaveyGee (at) aol.com

    Subject: MTV

    Hi All. I don't post much but love reading all the good "stuff".

    I missed the MTV segments :>( on Our Lady Today I work from

    4:30pm to 12:30 am and forgot (gasp) to have my better half

    tape it for me. Does Anyone know if there will be a rebroadcast

    over the weekend???

    I love every second of Bedtime Stories, I musta Played it at least

    a half dozen times today. The poor girl I work with. <g> She's

    actually gonna go out and buy it herself. I cant wait to see which

    song is the next #1 release from the Album.

    Enough rambling. see ya all Love David

    Feel it in your body Sing La De Da De Don't Stop Madonna

    ---

    Date: Wed, 26 Oct 94 01:21:00 UTC

    From: r.juzwiak (at) genie.geis.com

    Subject: Rich's Review...

    Hey everybody!!

    Big surprise...here's my reivew of "Bedtime Stories!". I'll take it song-by-

    song at first:

    1. "Survival" - Love it! The lyrics ("I'll never be an angel...") are

    frank but also really humourous (in a tongue-in-cheek kinda way). Love the

    production! Niki and Donna sound great, as usual, and one of the major

    drawbacks of the album (in fact the ONLY major drawback) is that they only

    appear on this one track.

    2. "Secret" - Of course, it's a masterpiece. Loved it since the second I

    first heard that 30 minute clip, and keep loving it more and more. Can't

    wait for the remixes!

    3. "I'd Rather Be Your Lover" - Really intriguing. I half expected Madonna

    to start rapping when I heard the beat (which, any rap fan will know, shows

    up in many tunes). Love Me'Shell NdegeOcello's bass and rap. Only weak

    point are the lyrics which I find confusing ("...I'd even be your brother"

    ?? was she trying to find a word to rhyme with lover?).

    4. "Don't Stop" - One of the most upbeat songs on the album, though it's

    not too dancey. Reminds me of "Right Here/Human Nature" by SWV (listen to

    the intro again, and THEN tell me it doesn't) but also somewhat reminicient

    of the 70's. No deep meaning here, just a fun song that, once remixed, will

    tear up the club charts (and un-remixed, the regular pop charts).

    5. "Inside of Me" - Hmmm. I think the lyrics are absolutely beautiful, but

    they don't seem to go along with the production (which reminds me of "Where

    Life Begins"). As a whole, I like it, but it's pretty "strange".

    6. "Human Nature" - YES! Fell in love with it the second I heard it! The

    lyrics are some of her best and most personal. Along with "Survival", this

    song proves that she's not forgetting "Erotica" or even aplogizing ("I'm not

    sorry") for it by releasing a "romantic" album.

    7. "Forbidden Love" - Really good. Didn't like it on the first listen, but

    I've grown to like it a lot. Her voice really goes with Babyface's. The

    subject matter suggests perhaps homosexuality or interracial dating, or some

    kind of "hush-hush" taboo.

    8. "Love Tried To Welcome Me" - Nice. I like the arrangement, and the

    lyrics are some of the most personal on the album (and it is an incredibly

    personal album). Very romantic, quiet-stormish.

    9. "Sanctuary" - I don't know. REALLY dark. The tone suggests death, but

    the lyrics suggest otherwise. Could be a dedication to the man she wants to

    married (she states, "I want to be married" blatantly).

    10. "Bedtime Story" - OK, am I the ONLY one who loves it? It's so

    infectious and it's very Bjork-ish. On the weird-side (though this is NOT

    bad at all), a really nice dance (I wouldn't call it techno, but probably

    trance) song about sleeping.

    11. "Take A Bow" - God, it's amazing. Sure, we've heard the production

    numerous times before, but it's never sounded so fresh. The lyrics are

    really beautiful. Perfect closing for the album. I'd like to think that

    the song is a metaphor of a relationship (c'mon this IS Babyface), but they

    do have shades of Madonna hanging up her bra and quitting show biz. Or she

    could've written it as a tribute to the end of anything she's ever done

    (perhaps even the Girlie Show "All the world loves a clown"). I don't

    know...

    All in all, it's a great album. I wouldn't call it a total R&B album, but

    it's as close as she's going to get. I think it's themed along the

    romantic/feelings lines. It's uncomparable to "Erotica" -- they're totally

    different in almost everyway. I think it's Madonna's most personal album

    since "Like A Prayer" and perhaps more personal than that. People will

    appreciate her sensitivity and realness which are apparent, once again.

    Anyway, here are my picks for the singles after "Secret":

    1. "Take A Bow"/"Bedtime Story" - "Take A Bow" will blaze up the Pop and

    R&B charts, while "Bedtime Story" will have a plethora of mixes that will

    land it atop of the Dance charts.

    2. "Don't Stop" - Radio stations around me have ALREADY been eating this

    one up, and remixes by David Morales, Steve "Silk" Hurley, and MK will only

    add to this.

    3. "Love Tried To Welcome Me" - Perhaps it'll have to be made a little more

    upbeat, but with the marketing, it'll become a slow-jam classic.

    That's all I can speculate for now

    ---

    Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 17:32:52 -0500 (EST)

    From: 00brhart (at) bsuvc.bsu.edu

    Subject: What happened to Melissa?

    What happend to Melissa (M's assistant)?

    Who is Caresse Henry?

    What happend to:

    "If you ever leave me I'm going to fucking kill myself?"

    WHAT'S THE STORY? and I don't mean BEDTIME either.

    So somebody who knows about this better write back and explain

    someting to me.......

    I'm waiting...... :rotfl:

    ---

    Date: Tue, 25 Oct 94 23:01:24 EDT

    From: Supercat <rtj (at) pegasus.rutgers.edu>

    "Don't Stop" is not the worst song on

    Bedtime Stories. It is sort of funky-a smooth jam. I think the worst song is

    "Bedtime Stories". It is so disappointing.

    ---

    Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 22:48:18 -0400 (EDT)

    From: Ed Sadtler <ehs12 (at) columbia.edu>

    Subject:

    I think Bedtime Stories biggest strengths are Madonna's vocals, stronger

    and more diverse in style than ever, and the thematic continuity of the

    album. Every song ties into the next thematically (especially the last

    three), to the overall theme of the album, the theme of Madonna's career

    (frequent references to earlier work such as "Live To Tell," "Into The

    Groove," and "I'll Remember"), and to Madonna's life (her feelings of

    lonliness and desire to settle down expressed in "The Face" interview).

    My predictions for releases are as follows:

    1. "Secret" - hopefully #1 in the next two weeks!

    2. "Take A Bow" - already rumored to be the next release and the perfect

    song for the holiday season

    3. "Bedtime Story" - we know Madonna is already working on the filming of

    a video for this one and techno mixes are inevitable

    Other possibilities are "Survival," "Don't Stop" (with dancier radio

    mix), "Inside Of Me," and "Human Nature." The album is so consistently

    excellent that it is hard to tell the releases for sure...it has to be

    her first album completely free of filler tracks! (as Billboard says "no

    baggage").

    Thanks to everyone who wrote to me saying they appreciated my review...I

    of course have though of much more to say since but I will spare you the

    time for know.

    ---

    Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 10:44:52 EST

    From: "CORY BOYD" <BO921359 (at) arus.ubishops.ca>

    Subject: alternative? no

    just a short note.

    one, i really dont agree that bedtime stories is an alternative

    sound. someone even went as far to say alternative radio may finally

    play madonna. don't hold your breath. it's a great song, and battles

    with human nature for my favorite track on the album, but alternative

    it is not. i think it's the closest thing to dance music on the

    album.

    second, i am a little bit scared about the lyrics to take a bow. all

    i know is that if i was going to stop making music after a brilliant

    career, i would love to leave off with a single like this. i hope

    this isn't what M intends to do. i agree that it sounds a bit like

    the clown music in GS as well

    ---

    Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 22:13:07 -0400 (EDT)

    From: Funkdafied <bsagel (at) emoryu1.cc.emory.edu>

    Subject: Bedtime Stories

    Briefly,

    --Take a Bow is the complete shit. Babyface bullshit is sounding all the

    same musically, but the song is Absolutely Wonderful and both of them

    deserve a lot of credit. Definitely number one, even versus anything

    Michael Jackson can come up with.

    --I am really upset over the title track. As a big fan of Bjork's, I

    expected something much better from her. You can tell Madonna is trying

    her best to sing in her awkward style, and it doesn't fit. Hopefully the

    remixes will be better.

    That's all for now, but I am ecstatic over Take a Bow. Amazing.

    ---

    Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 20:53:37 -0400 (EDT)

    From: Andre Passero <5PASSERO_A (at) spcvxa.spc.edu>

    Subject: Bedtime Stories sales!!!!!!!

    Hey you guys,

    I know that numbers are not that important to true fans like us,

    but they couldn't hurt. Mtv news said that at a Tower records in

    California, they have sold over 300 albums . At an HMV in NY,

    it was reported that Bedtime Stories is selling as good as if not better

    than the REM cd Monster. This is really good news, I think.

    Anyway, at the record stores near my house, they have all sold

    at least half their inventory. I get soooooooo happy when I hear stuff

    like this. I figured that if every record store in the country sold

    about 5 of these records a day during this week, the album may go platinum

    But I will leave all the demographical work to the

    statistics majors and I will go back to loving a wounderful piece of art.

    ---

    Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 21:52:49 -0400

    From: Damion001 (at) aol.com

    Subject: Bedtime Story

    Who said that the song Bedtime Story was annoying? My dear, I was stunned as

    I listened to it. I find it unbelievable that the Material Girl was able to

    create this kind of a song, which works on the mind in the same way a great

    Jimi Hendrix song does. Listen to it with the sound as loud as it can go baby

    and it will send you to new heights. It's visionary, it's cosmic--and

    Madonna's at the center of it all!

    I'm so glad that Me Shell appears on the CD also. Me Shell and Madonna make a

    great pair.

    ---

    Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 20:04:18 +1000 (EST)

    From: cs445098 (at) lux.latrobe.edu.au (Mickov Todorche)

    Subject: Brilliant Bedtime Stories !!!

    BRILLIANT BEDTIME STORIES IN AUSTRALIA !!! !!!

    What more can I say, but join everyone so far in expresing our utmost

    satisfaction with the Bedtime Stories album, Madonna's latest and one of

    the best albums in her career!

    I was truly amazed by the quality of the album, the fine melodies,

    boasting with R&B sound, the groovie dance tracks, namely DON'T STOP,

    and to some extent SURVIVAL, I'D RATHER BE YOUR LOVER and

    HUMAN NATURE (Letterman, watch out!). Not to even mention the ballads

    and slow tracks, which really shape the whole album to be a very

    personal story of her past, her experiences, hopes and interests.

    I bought my copy on Monday, 24th at 12:34 pm (afternoon),

    at Melbourne's VIRGIN MEGASTORE, which means that it was

    around 8:00 pm in America on the 23rd. Does this mean that I was one of

    the very few people on the planet to have had the album a bit earlier

    than most of Madonna's fans. I think it does!

    After listening to it about 20 times so far, I must say that Madonna and

    the whole team really outdid themselves. Such beautiful tracks, I am

    really looking forward to spending my summer with BEDTIME STORIES, don't

    you just love it, summer is coming, and Madonna with it, on the

    dancefloors of the nightclubs, on the radio waves and the waves at the

    beach!

    Here's a very short commentary:

    SURVIVAL: As one guy put it, it really introduces the album content

    well. A sign of things to come, and this track - one of my

    fave on the album, couldn't help but think that it's some sort

    of a retrospect on her life and endurance. Donna and Niki

    sound great. Single release ?!? Maybe. * * * * * stars

    SECRET: Great choice for the first single release. An utterly good song

    a guaranteed #1. No. 1 in single sales in AUS. * * * * *

    I'D RATHER BE YOUR LOVER: This one's O.K, quite satisfactory, but pales

    just a bit in comparison to the rest. * * *

    DON'T STOP: Just listen to that 70's musical violin stroke in the

    background. So groovie, I wonder why some ppl are a bit

    reserved about this song. Lyrics aren't everything, but

    what's wrong with pumping to the beat on the dancefloor.

    One of the best!!! A definite single release. * * * * *

    INSIDE OF ME: What a touching, ethereal, and somewhat sad song. Another

    one of my fave. Possibly a release. * * * * *

    HUMAN NATURE: "I'm not your bitch, don't hang your shit on me"

    The lyrics say it all. "Express yourself, don't repress

    youreself "(I though it was REGRESS) Another clue.

    Someone connected it to Letterman, rightly so, and the

    rest of the bloody critics. What the heck, this is how

    Madonna criticises. Love this funky song, made me laugh.

    A release?!? I would hope so. * * * * *

    FORBIDDEN LOVE,

    LOVE TRIED TO WELCOME ME: Really great slow songs, one of 'em is a

    definite singles release and rightly so.

    So good for slow-dancing. Both: * * * * *

    SANCTUARY: This is a dark one, this. Almost morbid. A very fine

    melody, the lyrics too. Another one of my fave, very

    profound, and an intersting intro to Bedtime Story.

    Indeed it's an interesting intro to a whole new sphere

    of Madonna's musical orientation. Deserves our attention and

    certainly our appreciation. Release?!? Unsure. * * * * *

    BEDTIME STORY: Not bad, not bad at all. So Bjorkesque, so new for

    Madonna, don't dismiss it so easily. Profoundly

    meaningful lyrics. A very interesting side of Madonna's

    musicality. The grunge influences are more than obvious

    and it will win Madonna more deserving audience.

    I'm really unsure about a singles release. * * * *

    TAKE A BOW: Indeed take a bow to this, the PIECE DE RESISTANCE !!!

    So heartwarming, so honest, so beautifully composed,

    arranged and sung. Credits to Babyface too for this

    superb ballad, a composition of almost unrivalled

    musical quality. When I first heard it, I had a literal

    arrest of the senses, instantaneously falling in love

    with this song, a Madonna EVERGREEN, trust me.

    This is a definite release, as I said an evergreen that

    will skyrocket to the No.1 spot and hold it for at least

    5 weeks. * * * * * (I wish I had more stars)

    As it turns out, all of the album tracks are my faves, and I hope yours

    too. Such originality with the baby-pink and baby-blue album colours,

    hopefully with a broader meaning than just nice bedtime colours, however

    one can only innocently speculate as to this "broader meaning". And if

    the blue and pink are indeed the very baby signs, then I would be more

    than glad.

    "Bedtime Stories" was certainly beyond all my expectations in terms of

    its quality, however one can hardly compare it with the issue-raising

    "Erotica", because to me they appear very different and yet causal. The

    stories in BEDTIME STORIES are ones of human character and in

    particularly Madonna's past and her experiences and therefore the album

    closely reveals Madonna's attitude, behaviour and personality. Perhaps I

    am wrong, I only wish Madonna would give her views on what "Bedtime Stories"

    meant to her.

    To anyone who hasn't bought the album, I thoroughly recommend it, and I

    hope you enjoy at as much as I do. Finally, one thought springs in my

    mind, a hopeful thought that soon enough we would be able to sing along

    live to these songs on Madonna's next tour, just like we did on the

    Girlie Show. Infact on the 26th of November, it'll be 1 year since staging

    the Girlie Show at the Melbourne Cricket Ground, and me and Madonna

    exchanging *smiling glances* across the catwalk. It's true, I had a

    golden circle seat and I was by far the tallest guy (6.4 ft). Jelous? :)

    ---

    Date: Thu, 27 Oct 94 00:52:57 CST

    From: "I'm not your Baby Fish Mouth, don't hang your sh*t" <J372%NEMOMUS.BITNET (at) mitvma.mit.edu>

    Subject: Re: BS

    >I don't know about the rest of you, but I sorta feel sorry for Shep Pettibone.

    >He got a little thank you in her credits, but that's all. I mean they've

    >worked togehter soooooo much. I hope they pair up again, because he's a good

    >producer. let me know what you think.

    Yes, yes, yes! I wonder if her little "thanx for understanding" meant

    that she was sorry the world isn't ready for the genius of their

    combined talents... I am sad that Shep didn't even produce ONE track.

    Those of you who dislike Shep or think his production style is "tired,"

    look at the what he's done: "Rain," the 1990 "Express Yourself,"

    "Erotica," "Deeper and Deeper," "This Used To Be My Playground,"

    "Vogue..." The list goes on. And I miss him...

    Maybe Maverick will let him remix some of "Bedtime Stories." We can

    hope, Scotty!

    ---

    Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 23:02:25 -0400 (EDT)

    From: Ed Sadtler <ehs12 (at) columbia.edu>

    Subject: BS Billboard Review

    Presenting...

    _Bedtime Stories_ review from _Billboard_ magazine October 29, 1994:

    "The Queen of Pop pulls another doozie from her bag of tricks, with the

    help from a cast of savvy conspiritors. This time, rather than shocking

    with sexual antics, or even trying to break musical ground, Ms. M sticks

    to a pop recipe that yields hits galore, with excess baggage. Most

    seductive offerings are pop smash "Secret," catchy opener "Survival,"

    funky "I'd Rather Be Your Lover" (featuring Me'Shell NdegeOcello on

    bass), dance floor gem "Don't Stop," tribal jam "Human Nature," and

    Babyface collaboratio "Take A Bow." A holiday feast for top 40, rhythm

    crossover, and AC."

    Well...they admit that she is the "Queen" but I would rather hear a

    discussion of well used talent rather than the image of a magician

    pulling a trick from a bag with help of "conspirators." Madonna (IQ 140)

    needs no bag of tricks...just her awesome voice and creativity! A

    standard Billboard review...saying little of substance about the album.

    I am really getting into "Sanctuary"...it is so dark and haunting. I can

    see Madonna in an enclosed space only lit by stained glass, buried in the

    arms of her lover, engaged in the ritual of marriage. Her voice just

    seeps into me.

    ---

    Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 14:59:02 -0400 (EDT)

    From: "Eric A Walter" <waltere1 (at) student.msu.edu>

    Subject: BS First Impressions

    Oh there's so much more to say than what I've hinted at here. I know many will

    be upset by the length, but I'm just 'spressin myself. I loved evety song the

    first time I heard them. I think this album (as a whole) is better than

    Erotica in terms of love at first (sight?).

    Ed Sadtler writes his 1st impressions of Bedtime Stories:

    > "Survival" - A spritely mid to fast tempo tune. Lacks the energy of a dance

    > track like "Vogue" or "Erotica," but pleasing to listen to. In the

    > lyrics she speaks of "living to tell...my story," an apparent likeness to

    > "Live To Tell." Blends sounds of the 70's, 80's, and 90's.

    Wonderful tie-in with "Live To Tell." She portrays herself as someone who

    refuses to be victimized, a stance she often takes.

    > "Secret" - I love this mid-tempo first release, especially the acoustic

    > guitar and madonna's sunlight vocals. One of the album's best tracks.

    > the ambiguity of the lyrics adds to the overall sense of mystery and

    > provides for a large array of interpretation.

    I agree. Somehow, I like it better with the album than as an independent

    single. It makes more sense (am I crazy?) on the album. (?)

    > "Don't Stop" - Like "Survival," sounds as much 80's as 90's in sound. A

    > little more R&B influence than usual for Madonna. The production is a

    > bit "soft:" a more hardcore dance version is definitely in order.

    A friend of mine and I were discussing this yesterday. He said, 'The lyrics

    are so bubble gum." I have to agree. They are not very... challenging. Of

    course, Madonna would not release something to the public if she wasn't happy

    with it (foregone conclusion), so my friend went on to defend it with, "It's

    kina like the 90s version of Into The Groove." Fluffy lyrics, but fantastic

    rhythms and instrumentation. A good song no matter what. In slight opposition

    to Ed, I would like to suggest that there is really no place on the album for a

    hardcore dance track. IMHO, it's more of a sit down and move your head around

    and sing along if you want to album than a get up and jump on the bed album.

    It is *Bedtime Stories* after all.

    > "Inside Of Me" - A beatiful ballad, slow but not lagging due to the

    > integration of samples from Aaalliyah's "Back And Forth." Madonna's

    > reflection on her mother and how, though she is gone, she will always be

    > somewhere inside, is genuinely touching. The Madonna who acts like she

    > "doesn't care" in the public eye and is crying "when no one is watching"

    > definitely fits into the picture I have developed of her as a person in

    > the last few years...a person living in darkness and light. One of the best

    > tracks on the album, definitely release material.

    Yes. I agree that this song is very demonstrative of her personality and the

    way she's been living privately.

    > "Human Nature" - The most 90's sounding of the albums's eleven tracks.

    > The instrumentation even recalls a bit of the gangster rap sound of Snoop

    > Doggy Dog, especially at the beginning. Lyrically, Madonna makes a very

    > honest statement to the world, one long overdue. "Oops I didn't know I

    > could talk about sex." I think this one should definitely be released not

    > only because it is a great song but because it will really help people to

    > better understand Madonna as a courageous, real person rather

    > than a cold exhibitionist.

    I just love the sacrasm. Her "if I were a man" argument pops up and breathes

    fire on the censors, and the parenthetic "what was I thinking" and "I must have

    been crazy" poke fun at those who think she should be repentant for her "sins."

    A great song. Madonna's anthem, definitely.

    > "Love Tried To Welcome Me" - By this point, the album is losing a

    > little momentum with an additional mid-tempo number. But for a song that

    > most likely was not intended as release material, it is a satisfying

    > addition to the album. Lyrics are at their best when Madonna says

    > "Instead of spring-it's always winter and my hear has always been a

    > lonely hunter."

    This song was buzzin in my head all day long today. It sticks very well, and I

    think it would make an excellent release.

    > "Sanctuary" - Madonna pulls the listener in with a whisphered voice into

    > the songs most seductive and mystical track - a song that certainly would

    > not have sounded out of place on _Like A Prayer_. Flaunts Madonna's

    > knack for giving a love song an intriguing twist, in this case viewing

    > her lover as a "sanctuary." The images of burial, light and dark, and

    > marriage are powerful. I like to here her talk as well as

    > sing...probably the most innovative and one of the best tracks on the

    > album.

    Do you think the line mentioning marriage is prophetic? Lets hope so. I'd

    like to think that she's ready to make amends for her trouble with her first

    marriage. Not make amends, exactly... moore like I think she's learned about

    living with people (as if it's even my place to say) and might just be ready

    for marriage.

    > "Bedtime Stories" - By now the album is in desparate need of a strong

    > dance tune. This song seems on the brink of breaking into a fast paced

    > techno tune from the very beginning but never totally takes of...the

    > remixes I'm sure will remedy that. The lyrics are unlike anything

    > Madonna has sung, but of course she took no hand in writing them...I have

    > not figured them out yet but it seems that their is some interest in the

    > powers of intoxication, be it by sleep, love, drugs, or all three.

    Very surreal and Bjork-ish. I can totally hear Bjork singing this song, but

    that does not exclude Madonna's ability to do equally as well (if not

    better). I copngratulate M on delving into new and challenging genres. She

    is a true artist to borrow from others and further the beauty.

    > "Take A Bow" - "Take a bow/The night is over" - no question that this

    > song is the ending to an album by the title "Bedtime Stories."

    This totally fits.

    > proverbial referance "say good-bye," that we have heard in

    > both "I'll Remember" and "Goodbye To Innocence."

    Don't forget This Used To Be My Playground, as equally melodramatic a song.

    > Madonna's claim that this "masquerade is getting older" seems to

    > imply some sort of a sundown of her career...but I seriously doubt this is

    > her last album (especially given her contract). Any comments on this?

    Scared me for a minute. Although this song would be the perfect anthem for the

    ending of M's career, I don't want the magic to end so soon. I think she may

    be alluding to a (temporary) change of pace. What with rumors of marriage (and

    children?) and the little boy in the secret video, she may want to settle down

    a bit. (?)

    > any case, a good, though uncharacteristically slow ending. Madonna has

    > never before ended an album with a ballad, but it is appropriate to the

    > theme of this album.

    Yes, it is definitely an appropriate ending. I think (can feel it in my bones)

    that this will be a BIG HIT if/when it is released. If it is not released,

    Madonna would be a fool no to realize the artistic acclaim and monetary gains.

    As she is no fool, I feel confident that this will see radio airplay. I want

    to cry when I hear this song.

    Thank you for reading this far. I means a lot to me that others care what I

    think. I don't know If I would have made it to the end, thus you are a braver

    soul than I... Just remember, Ed started it. (just kidding)

    ---

    Date: 27 Oct 94 00:03:10 EDT

    From: Gregg Hlavacek <73134.3306 (at) compuserve.com>

    Subject: BS nervous breakdown symbolism

    I've been on this list since way back when someone else was moderating

    it, and I've mostly been lurking in the last year, but I thought that

    tonight, I'd have to put in my $0.02...

    I'm surprised that no one has mentioned this earlier, but Bedtime

    Stories is a very cohesive album, on par with, if not better than, Like

    A Prayer. Where Like a Prayer seems to tell a story from her childhood

    through to her adult years, Bedtime Stories seems to tell a story

    about her life as a star.

    Each song has a logical progression into the next. (This is probably

    going to be lengthy, so skip if you're not in the mood, but if you don't,

    the reading will at least be good.) It begins with Survival, which acts

    as the proverbial introduction a body of work: "here's my story/no risk

    no glory"

    What may appear at first to be a collection of songs about romance and

    bitter relationships (with the press, perhaps) may actually all unite to

    create a metaphor for a nervous breakdown. Now, I'm not a psychology

    major, but I think that this might be an interesting way to look at the

    album.

    Support: All (or just about all) of the romantic songs are not quite what

    you would fit into the "romantic song" mold. They indicate a very troubled

    and honest view of relationships. I know of a few traits that I possess

    myself; i.e. Love Tried to Welcome Me, Sanctuary... They also get

    progressively more disturbing as the album plays.

    The album starts out refreshing, light, and easy with Survival, Secret,

    I'd Rather Be Your Lover, and Don't Stop. It takes a turn into something

    more intimate, regarding the loss of her mother in Inside of Me. She then

    lashes out at the press or an ex in Human Nature; creates a private

    area for her taboo lover in Forbidden Love. Love Tried To Welcome Me

    almost seems written by a disturbed person. I can just imagine her,

    trembling slightly, indicating her hands, and singing "These are my

    hands/But what can they give me?" After the loneliness of LTTWM, she

    almost seems like she's lost all control in Sanctuary. Even her use of

    the word "sanctuary" seems to indicate this, show that she needs a place

    away, an asylum. The startling contrast in the object of her questions

    also shows to convey this, with the implied preference of rain to the sun,

    open ground to the sky, tears to a smile, and you get the idea. The

    height of her nervous breakdown is in Bedtime Story, where nothing

    seems to make sense to her anymore, unconsciousness is idealized,

    and everything is reduced to the simple basics that "we're all still wet/

    longing and yearning." She's coming out of her "Bedtime Story" (sorry,

    couldn't resist) when she says "All that you've ever learned/try to forget/

    I'll never explain again."

    Take a Bow proves a superlatively excellent choice as a final track.

    While musically a bit mainstream for my tastes, it effectively conveys

    that she's come out of her breakdown, and has a wiser, truer, and more

    mature way of looking at things.

    The interpretation of this album can be taken to deeper levels, where

    she is having a breakdown over a lover, the media, being a star, or

    being alone.

    I know this is a bit long (warned ya guys), but I thought it was a

    valid interpretation of what the album may mean. Perhaps this is not

    what Madonna meant to convey, nor do I mean to convey that she had a

    nervous breakdown, but whether consciously or unconsciously, this album

    may have been psychotherapy for her.

    Once again, sorry so lengthy. I wish I could have been more eloquent, but

    the points I wanted to make are all there (I think.. it's late..). Let

    me know what you guys think.

    ---

    Date: Wed, 26 Oct 94 16:02:31 -0800

    From: byron (at) kron.cs.csufresno.edu (Byron Douglas Youngblood)

    Subject: BS songs

    thought I'd give my opinion on my new copy of "Bedtime Stories", and

    say that in general I thought it was a good piece of work!

    I had been watching MTV with my kids as they were growing up, and so had a pretty good knowledge of what there was out there....after 1992, I stopped

    watching most of the time. The alternative/grunge and nasty-rap was getting

    me down. Yeah, I"m old, but still I wasn't hearing joyful noise anymore.

    I was thrilled to get into BS after Erotica and its somewhat sexual mode,

    although it was danceable!! Sex, to me, is a great but private matter, after

    all. "Bedtime", the single, was weird and dark to me - too grunge but it is

    nice that Mads can venture into all musical areas. This is stuff even MY mom

    will listen to.

    The MTV special was really good. It was something to hear Madonna's

    voice throughout, and the changes her voice and face have gone thru. Her

    voice is huskier now, and that progression is fairly normal for someone who

    smokes and of course, uses her voice a lot. Face? Well - she could look

    more youthful if she didn't smoke and if she toned down the make-up a little.

    Also, she has gotten her weight down quite a bit, and after 30, one has to

    be careful... she is in super shape, but it'll show more in the cheeks, thus

    they say it's sometimes good to haul around that xtra 5 lbs. The severly

    short haircuts tend to be prettier when one's younger, for that reason.

    Well, 'nuff said (other than, NO she was NEVER fat; just healthy!!) I

    still love her!!! May the FORCE be with her......

    ---

    Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 12:54:27 -0400 (EDT)

    From: ZIGFREID <peterw (at) io.org>

    Subject: Hey Babyface.....

    ...... could someone please tell Babyface that there's probably a way to

    change the tempo on his MIDI program. Geez every song on Bedtime Stories

    is exactly the same tempo. Bring back Pat Leonard!

    ---

    Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 17:53:30 -0400 (EDT)

    From: Joseph L Nunez <jn33+ (at) andrew.cmu.edu>

    Subject: Let's Get Unconscious...

    Well, everyone here is STOO-PID if they find any errors in Bedtime

    Stories, joke!

    No, seriously, I just wanted 2 comment on what sum of these people are saying:

    1. THIS SOUNDS LIKE NOTHING JANET JACKSON HAS MADE!! I was astounded

    when I saw someone say this...just cause it has a large R&B influence

    doesn't make it Janet Jackson-like (this is no insult to Ms. Jackson).

    R&B has wider parameters than what people think.

    2. The title track, "Bedtime Story" is unique, different, and superb!

    At first, I used to not like Madonna's different approaches to music (I

    hated LIKE A PRAYER at first). Something new always scared me, until I

    realized that NEW MUSIC is the best thing to make. There is uniqueness

    written all over BEDTIME STORIES! I liked EROTICA at first because it

    was TOO true to her music. I agree w/ the person who said EROTICA was

    simply an extension of Shep Petibone's Vogue/Express Yourself dance

    music. The more R&B material on EROTICA was good, this new album goes a

    whole new dimension beyond that!

    3. MADONNA HAS NEVER DONE ANYTHING CLOSE TO THIS BEFORE THEREFORE IT IS

    GREAT!!!

    ---

    Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 22:42:12 -0500

    From: rob (at) snuffy.penfield.ny.us (Rob Smith)

    Subject: My BEDTIME STORIES REVIEW

    What an album!!! It definitely is different than her previous work. This

    is my review of the album...

    BEST SONGS (In order of appearance, not by favorites) -

    1) "Survival" - it kind of reminded me of her early stuff, ironically her

    old song "Angel" (a line in the new song is "I'll never be an angel".) The

    backing vocals were really good, but then again they have Madonna, Niki,

    and Donna, who are always good together...

    2) "Secret" - I can't stop humming this song!!! Its definitely one of the

    strongest songs here.

    3) "Take a Bow" - What a romantic song. I put it up there with "Promise To

    Try" for tear jerkers. That, "Live To Tell", and this are the only Madonna

    songs I have cried to. Today wasn't a good day, so I was a total sucker

    for a breakdown and this song did it. More related to Madonna, it made me

    think of Madonna as the clown at the end of THE GIRLIE SHOW ("All the world

    loves a clown", she sings). This is my favorite song on the album.

    The rest, while not bad, haven't really hit me yet, although "Human Nature"

    is growing on me. It just exudes attitude (total M!!!). I wish the girls

    were on more of the songs though, although they are fine the way the are.

    On a more negative note, Rochester, New York's paper, THE TIMES UNION, gave

    a really snotty review of the album, the headline being MADONNA'S "BEDTIME

    STORIES" ARE A SNOOZE. Hello? I happen to think its one of her best, next

    to LIKE A PRAYER. The critic goes on to say, "Ultimately, Madonna is

    little more than the world's highest paid hooker, because what she sells is

    sex". Hello, again? What an asshole! That would have been fine if this

    were EROTICA he were talking about, but I think that little insult was

    totally inappropriate for the new direction she's going in. Some people

    just can't let go...

    ---

    Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 17:17:41 -0500 (CDT)

    From: royster fredrick don <royster (at) ux5.cso.uiuc.edu>

    Subject: New but not so new

    Hi All

    I'm thoroughly enjoying BEdtime Stories. After about 4 or 5

    lisenings, i even like the title track. It's very trance-ambient like.

    And I really like Human NAture. I like almost all of the songs. While

    musically Madonna is going in new places(Love the NEw Jack Swing thing,

    and new vocal inflections) but Lyricaally, she's treading some old

    ground. Not that this si a bad thing, the lyrics are great. She talks

    about "Live to Tell" in sanctuary,"Getting on the dance floor" in Don't

    Stop (Used in Vogue,basic concept of Everybody) I think I wish I was

    Your Lover's chorus is ripped right out of Justify My Love" ANd she talks

    about Expressing Yourself in Human Nature, and of course SAy Goodbye is

    uese in Take A Bow, I'll Remeber,In This Life, This Used to be My

    Playground....., and she even uses HAppiness lies in your own hadn in

    Both Secret and I wish I was your Lover. AS I said, i think repeating

    motifs are agood thing, since this is such a new style musically for

    madonna, she wanted her fans to associate it with the themes of earlier

    works. It really is a great Album, beats tha pants of Erotica any day of

    th week, and is almost of "Like A Prayer" stature. Almost.

    ---

    Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 00:34:34 -0400 (EDT)

    From: zheng wang <zhwang (at) das.harvard.edu>

    Subject: New Feelings to BS

    Sorry for another mail about my feeling, but...

    After one more day my impression to some songs have changed somehow.

    Yesterday Now

    Survival -------------- A- B+ Not so attractive

    Secret ---------------- A A

    I'd Rather be your lover B- C+ Tell me how to love this song?

    Don't Stop ------------ C C+ ditto

    Inside of me ---------- B+ B+ Why I expect a totally different style...

    Human Nature ---------- A A+ More & more fascinated by this song!!!

    Forbidden Love -------- B+ A- Feel it too short

    Love tried to welcome me B- A Suddenly fall in love with it... M's lonely?

    Sanctuary ------------- A- A New & charming style of M.

    Bedtime Story --------- C+ B A little weird... Not as good as "Erotica".

    Take a Bow ------------ A A+ Ohhhhhhhhhhh......

    Before reading the following please be aware overall I love BS very much!

    1. My overall impression is still not good enough, 'cos there're 6 fading

    endings among 11 tracks. I don't like fading ending 'cos the lack of strength.

    track 4--8 are all fading endings... In "Erotica" there're only 4 among 13,

    In "I'm breathless" 4 among 12. Of course fading ending fits for songs like

    "Live to tell", "Like a Prayer", but I feel it not fit for many songs here.

    Your opinion?

    Notice that "Express Yourself" & "Vogue" both have attractive intro &

    ending, I feel "I'd Rather", "Don't Stop" & "BS" lack of this.

    2. Cooperate with so many artists... there's variety of style & voice among

    all tracks. It's not bad, but I felt a little incoherent... Especially, if

    skip over track 3 & 4, I'll feel much much better!

    3. I feel more & more happy 'cos more and more say they love "Take a Bow"!

    Maybe it's time to introduce Chinese music to you all... Kidding. Since 2

    years ago I prefer American music to Chinese. (I came to USA 45 days ago)

    Classmates said I'm traitor... Of course, there ARE some Chinese music very

    very beautiful!

    And I really really hope the suspicion caused by "Take a Bow"(I even don't

    want to say it) NOT true!!!

    4. "Take a Bow", "Human Nature" are rockets to Billboard #1! & "Sanctuary",

    "LOve tried to welcome me", "Forbidden Love", "Bedtime Story"(Must have a

    dance single, isn't it)... "TaB", if released next, maybe will bring USA a

    warm, beautiful & romantic winter...

    ---

    Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 23:18:32 -0400 (EDT)

    From: Andre Passero <5PASSERO_A (at) spcvxa.spc.edu>

    Subject: New Madonna film and other stuff!

    Hello all,

    I heard today on the radio and tv that Madonna was chosen to be

    in the film called "Four Rooms" directed by 4 different directors.

    She is going to be directed by a female, Her name escapes me at the moment,

    but one of the other directors is Quinton Tarintino. I don't know what

    the film is about but she is starring with Bruce Willis. Could be very

    different. They also mentioned that she will be in some flick where he

    sorry, she plays the part of a witch. Anybody know anything else about this.

    Since everyone is giving their opinion about Bedtime Stories,

    I would like to share also.

    But what could I say except that I LOVE IT!!!!!!!! It is so

    beautifully done. I also feel that her extraordinary vocals is what makes

    the album so wounderful. Someone posted that her vocals are not that great

    and all I have to say is that is bullshit. Though she may not have a

    strong high octave, her ability in other ranges are magnificant. I really

    do consider her a great singer, YES A SINGER. I hate it when people say

    that she is a great business woman and she knows how to manipulate the

    media, because that brushes off her talent. Her voice is very seductive

    and can easily put me in a trance. But anyway, I love the album.

    My favorite song is again "Take A Bow". I also really love the darkness

    of "Sanctuary". Everytime I listen to that, nice and loud in the dark,

    I picture what the video could be and it is amazing. I was picturing

    a Dracula type of seduction, blending love and darkness.

    Well, this is my 2 cents. Enjoy the album

    ---

    Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 14:31:16 -0500 (CDT)

    From: Hyland Kevin Robert <k-hyland (at) ux4.cso.uiuc.edu>

    Subject: no review, I promise

    Suggestion to first listeners of BS album: don't follow along w/the lyric

    sheet. It makes each song seem slow and dull.

    I was worried that BS would be compared to Music Box since it was said

    that there were many ballads. I don't think anything compares.

    I haven't read any messages about the Q-sound effects at the end of

    "Bedtime Stories." "Travelling, travelling..." I think it has to do

    with dreaming and deep sleep. The video (if made) during this part has

    to be great.

    Any video subsequent to "Secret" HAS to be totally different. No more

    walking down a street or singing into a studio mike. No other song on BS

    allows that IMO.

    ---

    Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 23:41:49 -0500 (CDT)

    From: BWG001 (at) ACAD.DRAKE.EDU

    Subject: secret moves up!

    Hi everybody,

    I just caught Showbiz today on CNN. According to them this week, the top five

    look like this:

    5. Real McCoy

    4. Ini Comoze - ??? (never heard this song before...that's Des Moines for ya)

    3. Madonna

    2. Sheryl Crow

    1. Boyz-II-Men

    There weren't any really big acts moving up before her (although Bon Jovi was

    number 6) so as long as Madonna continues to gain sales and airplay, it should

    have no trouble making number one. The maxi-single next week should really

    help a lot.

    Bedtime Stories should be debuting on the album chart in two weeks, hopefully

    in the top spot. I'll leave the rest of the chart info for whoever happens to

    get the new issue of Billboard first.

    ---

    Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 14:57:28 +1000 (EST)

    From: cs445098 (at) lux.latrobe.edu.au (Mickov Todorche)

    Subject: Very Short !!!

    Hi all,

    About the dark and haunting "Sanctuary", do you think that it could

    possibly be released as a feature song in the upcoming "Interview with

    the Vampire" with T.Cruise, B.Pitt... Just speculating! It's probably

    too soon, after Secret.

    How could some ppl dislike "Don't Stop", there's nothing wrong with

    lyrics that really make you wanna dance, groove and pump. The lyrics

    are quite appropriate for the melody, for the mood of the song. Sure

    they are not as stimulating as "Bedtime Story", but you just got to

    accept that this is a different kind of song, a song with a message of

    its own.

    ---

    Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 12:17:03 -0400 (EDT)

    From: Ed Sadtler <ehs12 (at) columbia.edu>

    Subject: More BS Breakdown

    My thoughts on Bedtime Stories similar to Gregg's:

    Perhaps he missed it, but I did post to the network earlier

    that I thought it was her most cohesive album from beginning to end, each

    track related to the next and related to her life and career as a

    whole...all under the umbrella of the theme of Bedtime Stories.

    In "Sanctuary" her preference for the darker of the two

    extremes is absolutely haunting...I see her in a sanctuary lighted only

    by a dark stained glass window...cut off from the world in a bond of

    "marriage" with her (presumably unfound) lover. The isolation of

    "Sanctuary" becomes near oblivion in "Bedtime Story:" "let's get

    unconciousness." The song leaves her in a void (communication doesn't work

    for her anymore). The last song, as you said, is the perfect closing.

    It puts the album "to bed:" "curtains down," "say good bye," etc.

    Perpetual lonliness and pain recurs throughout each track on

    the album: In "Inside of Me" she is crying behind the eyes of the

    public, in "Human Nature" she speaks of being "silenced by bitterness and

    lies," in "Love Tried To Welcome Me" she says "lonliness has never been a

    stranger" and "instead of spring - it's always winter and my heart has

    always been a lonely hunter," and in "Take A Bow" she says good bye to a

    lover (and a world) that took her love "for granted" leaving her with a

    "broken heart."

    The album can't help but make me sad whenever I listen...half the tracks

    apply almost directly to experiences in my life (ie. "I'd Rather Be Your

    Lover," "Forbidden Love," "Survival," "Human Nature." "Human Nature"

    especially: me locked in a "narrow room" and "silenced by bitterness and

    lies:" never again! The narrow room is like being in the closet: anyone

    else relate to this?

    Thanks to anyone who got through the end of this lengthy message.

    ---

    Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 19:07:19 -0700 (PDT)

    From: Gary Corduan <gcord (at) netcom.com>

    Subject: "Mistah Kurtz - he dead"

    [Life is short, this piece is long, and no-one should feel obligated to

    spoil a Saturday evening or Sunday breakfast by working through this --

    for those who remain, one sees that the album that Bedtime Stories seems

    most frequently compared to is Like a Prayer -- both come at self-

    created crossroads in her life, which is the basis of what follows]

    Nixon had six crises (and then a very long seventh) -- Madonna has had

    three by my count, the private one of her mother's death, the public

    collapse of her marriage to Sean Penn, and the extended self-inflicted

    damage of the Body of Evidence Project (book/film/album, which remains, even

    so, her most significant work, her most significant negotiation of self)

    Following upon the self-mocking but also self-congratulatory litany that

    began the Virgin Tour video ("I wanted to be famous, I wanted everybody to

    love me"), the disaster of her marriage would seem to have brought with it

    her first real (public) experience of unqualified Failure, and with it an

    acute sense of (a forced return to) being _only_ mortal, splitting her

    irrevocably from the media image she had constructed for herself and her

    public (the placement of the Pepsi commercial "home movie" at this moment

    is significant) -- the album that followed upon this crisis (Like a

    Prayer) gave us a set of unified and strongly introspective (and

    retrospective) lyrics, even as the unity of pop stance and idiom that had

    held the first three albums together musically almost necessarily fell

    apart (they had become inadequate to her life)

    The Body of Evidence Project was admirable in every way _conceptually_ and

    then came undone in the execution for more reasons than there is space to go

    into here but almost all of which are linked to the importance and degree of

    personal psychic risk it must have had for her -- in the long build-up of

    publicity that preceded its arrival, there was a sense that she was willing

    herself to cross a threshold ("enter freely and of your own will") that she

    had been maneuvering herself toward in a progressing series of evasions,

    and that the marriage had tried to cross in a backwards fashion -- in the

    failings of its actual execution, she offered to her enemies the weapons

    with which to attack the vulnerabilities she had exposed

    The album that follows this crisis (Bedtime Stories) is more adept at a

    unity of (pop) artifice and she is able to protect herself for five

    conscutive tracks through the negotiation of a new Plausible Identity,

    parcelling out the moments of self-exposure ("you have to say one really

    disarming thing") in a context of affirmation (in what at times also

    approaches an exercise in self-erasure: even the voice that we know turns

    itself into someone other) -- but then (after a sort of prologue given by

    Forbidden Love), she drops the mask entirely for three consecutive and

    progressively terminal songs (Love Tried to Welcome Me, Sanctuary, and

    Bedtime Story) -- this is the heart of the matter

    Love Tried to Welcome Me has its closest melodic precursor in This Used to

    Be My Playground, but, in its pivot on the phrase "Love tried to break me"

    (which turns the initial longing of the title into the terms of a betrayal),

    effectively severs the possibility of traditional nostalgia -- Till Death

    Do Us Part, from Like a Prayer, straddles this track and the next (Sanctuary)

    and takes Like a Prayer's Promise to Try with it into its grave (one can

    splice in here the scene at her mother's grave from Truth or Dare) --

    betrayed by Love itself, retrosepctive longing shifts and finds its content

    in the inversion of values and its expression in the negation of life --

    Bedtime Story is the natural, long-awaited, and long-expected culmination of

    this (and it is appropriate that the words are penned by someone else, so

    that the expression of its intent is already halfway to its fulfillment) --

    it is the hedonistic negation of the first track (Survival (and, with it, of

    Live to Tell)) and the escape clause to Rescue Me -- in its way it

    "completes" the Sex book, and, to the extent that that book sought to give

    expression to what had been unsuccessfully deferred by her wedding ceremony,

    takes us back to a view (with the spectre of her mother in the background)

    of what was really at stake in that marriage

    ---

    Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1994 14:35:00 -0500

    From: BRATULIC ROBERT <bratuli (at) ecf.toronto.edu>

    Subject: After the Dust Settled ...

    After letting my BS impressions stew for a few days, I have

    the following musings:

    Songs that I find very addictive:

    1. Bedtime Story

    2. Sanctuary

    3. I'd Rather be Your Lover

    4. Inside of Me

    5. Don't Stop

    Songs that I prefer to skip:

    1. Survival

    2. Forbidden Love

    3. Take a Bow

    Survival 7/10

    --------

    Recipe:

    40% Janet Jackson (That's the Way Love Goes)

    30% Cherish

    30% Why's It So Hard

    Token pop offering. Sweet. Innocuous. Forgettable.

    Secret 8/10

    ------

    Ancestors: Bad Girl

    It's the most low-key song on the CD, which makes it a

    surprising first single. All the radio-play makes it a

    natural favorite for anyone just buying BS. However, with

    time I think it'll settle into the category occupied by Oh

    Father, and Bad Girl.

    I 'd Rather Be Your Lover 10/10

    -------------------------

    Ancestors: Bye Bye Baby, Love Song

    Maximally funky. Need I say more.

    Don't Stop 9/10

    ----------

    Ancestors: Deeper and Deeper, Vogue

    Feel-good dance music, with a salute to 70's disco.

    Inside of Me 9/10

    ------------

    Ancestor: Where Life Begins, NOT Promise to Try

    Even though supposedly about her Mother, when the goddess of

    sex brings out intimate breathy effects, soft vibes,

    saxophone, cheesy synths, a bimbo voice, and the

    testosterone-stimulating "I will always have you inside of

    me", it's time to blow a wad, not call long-distance.

    I think M intentionally makes potentially sexually-explicit

    lyrics readable in 2 or more ways though. Look at Like a

    Prayer, Where Life Begins, Secret, and many more.

    Human Nature 7.5/10

    ------------

    Madonna flames her detractors to music, which sounds

    vindictive and petty. However, musically too weird to

    disregard. More of a novelty or experiment. This will

    certainly never be released as a single.

    Forbidden Love 7/10

    --------------

    Not particularly Madonnaesque. Unremarkable.

    Love Tried to Welcome Me 8/10

    ------------------------

    Ancestor: Something to Remember (from I'm Breathless, c'mon!)

    Madonna does Englebert Humperdinck. Easy-listening music on

    an FM station on a quiet, cloudy Sunday afternoon. Part of

    the set of songs on this album that make critics call this

    album a "mature" work. Something mom would like.

    Sanctuary 10/10

    ---------

    Ancestors: Secret Garden, Words

    A brilliant jazz/funk tone poem on M's love/death fantasy.

    Music for The Crow. Not top 40 material.

    Bedtime Story 10/10

    -------------

    Ancestors: William Orbit remixes of Erotica, I'll Remember

    The coolest and most forward-looking piece of all. Madonna

    creates a new style of music, fusing Orbital, William Orbit,

    New Age orbits, and Q-Sound.

    Take a Bow 7/10

    ----------

    The opening pentatonic melody makes me squirm. $yrupy,

    $entimental $tuff that is $urely $ingle material. Radio-

    ready, as Peter said. The string ending is pretty though.

    What all these reviews show is how differently we are all

    attracted to M's oeuvre, yet still find common ground for

    discussion.

    ---

    Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1994 12:55:10 -0500 (EST)

    From: Ed Sadtler <ehs12 (at) columbia.edu>

    Subject: Brilliant Connections

    Gary spoke of the many correlations between the music of "Bedtime

    Stories" and earlier music in Madonna's career. Picking up this thread of

    thought, I would like to offer a complete look at these correlations.

    The album's opening track, "Survival," clearly calls on the words of

    "Live To Tell," but presents a Madonna who doesn't simply "hope" she

    lives to tell, but knows that she will. The "lies" that "burned inside

    of her" in "Live To Tell" are clearly still there, but she has managed

    for better or worse ("heaven or "hell"). The powerful message of

    "survivorship" is very powerful and links over to "Rescue Me," a song in

    which she calls for deliverance ("rescue") and respect. Whereas in

    "Rescue Me" she calls on love for help, in "Survival" she declares herself

    a survivor on her own.

    "Inside Of Me" relates closely to "Promise To Try." Both pieces are

    reflections on her mother's death. She speaks of a "picture" of her

    mother in both songs. In "Promise To Try," this image is escaping her.

    She wonders if her mother will see her "when she stumbles and falls."

    She fears that she will lose a sense of her mother, but promises to "try"

    and hold on to it. "Inside Of Me" speaks of her not merely trying, but

    suceeding. She realizes her mother will always be a "part of" her and

    when she awakes at night scared, she is not presented with a fading image

    but a comforting picture and the comforting knowledge that her mother is

    "watching over" without doubt.

    "Love Tried To Welcome Me," "Sanctuary," and "Take A Bow" are as Gary

    said songs in which Madonna "takes off her mask." The underlying sense

    of darkness that was expressed through odes to masechistic sex and failed

    relationships, namely "Erotica," "Bye Bye Baby," "Bad Girl" and "Waiting,"

    takes on a more direct and honest form. Madonna does not hide that she

    herself is the one who's lonely rather than someone merely playing the part of

    a lonely person (Note that in "Bad Girl," the cinematography is done such

    that Madonna seems to be playing a part rather than being the character

    herself) "Take A Bow" can't help but remind one of the themes of

    the "Girlie Show" with its circus and stage-show imagery ("clowns and

    curtains". Of course, this links seamlessly to Madonna's final statement

    in the "Girlie Show:" an image of her as an unmasked clown.

    There are a number of other connections on the album, but these are those

    that I think are most stunning. Clearly "Bedtime Stories" contrasts with

    the earlier works in that Madonna appropriates vulnerability and

    lonliness for herself and in doing show does not seem weak but stronger

    and more secure than ever.

    Any other ideas on connections?

    ---

    Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 00:07:02 +0800 (WST)

    From: ngcf (at) encserver.en.hkp.hk (Tony NG Chung-fat)

    Subject: Can someone forward articles from alt.fan.madonna?

    Hi, I had tried reading the articles in alt.fan.madonna

    but only found a few. Can someone who has access to

    all articles of alt.fan.madonna pls forward some

    of the articles from that newsgroup, esp. the bad

    reviews of Bedtimes Stories so as to balance the all

    the good reviews here in our mailing list.

    I find this album quite good with the exception of

    Don't Stop and the opening track Survival. Thanks

    for everyone for enlightening me on the meaning

    of "Take A Bow". Let's all wait patiently to

    the debut of Bedtimes Stories in Billboard 200

    and also a possible #1 on Billboard Hot 100 for Secret.

    Tony Ng at ngcf (at) encserver.en.hkp.hk

    PS: Is it worthwhile to buy the remixes of Secret if

    I had already got the Secret single which includes

    "Let Down Your Guard"?

    ---

    Date: Mon, 31 Oct 94 02:42:00 UTC

    From: r.juzwiak (at) genie.geis.com

    Subject: "Bedtime Story" NO!!

    Am I the only one who thinks that the release of "Bedtime Story" as a

    seperate single would be a BIG mistake? It really has no radio potential

    (even though it's quite amazing) and I'm afraid it would be Madonna's first

    single not to go Top 40. The SMARTEST think to do, IMHO, would be to

    release a double A-side of "Take A Bow"/"Bedtime Story" that way she'll have

    a dance, R&B, AC, and pop hit all together, AND if radio stations wanted to,

    they COULD play "Bedtime Story" (since it's just about given that "Take A

    Bow" will go to #1) but wouldn't have to for Madonna to have a hit. Anyone

    agree?

    ---

    Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 11:10:50 -0500 (EST)

    From: "Brian J Dillard" <dillardb (at) student.msu.edu>

    Subject: bedtime story

    sorry to burst your bubble, bratulic, but this song doesNOT showcase madonna's

    ability to create a new form of music, as you stated. it is my fave song on the

    album, but the reason i like it is that it sounds like violently happy part II.

    violently happy being one of the 11 exquisite tunes bjork and nellee hooper

    crafted for bjork's 'debut.' the blueprint for the song is right there. weird

    sonic noises, gutteral sounds, the eerie noises coalesce and the beat kicks in.

    the melody never really shows up--very techno. sure, it sounds great, but to

    credit madge for being a pathfinder is a bit absurd. . . .

    ---

    Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 12:57:26 -0500 (EST)

    From: Ed Sadtler <ehs12 (at) columbia.edu>

    Subject: BS is a Release

    Despite insistent claims on the list that "Bedtime Story" would be a poor

    release or should be consigned to the b-side of "Take A Bow," that does

    not change the fact that Madonna began the filming of this video before

    the video for "Take A Bow" and though it is not necessarily the second

    release, it will be a major release from the album.

    A agree that "Take A Bow" has more potential on the charts: it comes

    closer to the type of songs that stay at the top of the charts (like

    those of Boyz II Men and All 4 One) than anything she has done. "Bedtime

    Stories" doesn't really have singable melody but perhaps a radio remix

    will make it more suitable for the airwaves. Furthermore, I think it is

    great that Madonna wants to present a release that IS a departure from

    the mainstream to show an added dimension to her work. "Bedtime Story"

    may not make the top 10 but it could easily call a following from

    college-aged audiences that lean towards alternative music.

    ---

    Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1994 18:28:07 -0500 (EST)

    From: Ed Sadtler <ehs12 (at) columbia.edu>

    Subject: BS Releases

    After considering the album in more depth, these are my firm conjectures

    for releases:

    1. "Secret"

    Hopefully a future #1 on Singles, Dance, and Adult Contemporary charts;

    maxi-single release on Tuesday?

    2. "Bedtime Story"

    Madonna has found elderly Asian women for what promises to be an

    intriguing video; probably not #1 potential, but perhaps top 5;

    enevitable techno-oriented maxi-single and #1 club smash.

    3. "Take A Bow"

    Madonna is filming a video in Spain for this one; should shoot to the

    top of the charts because of its broad pop appeal; "Don't Stop" is a

    possible b-side with great (needed) remixes on maxi-single.

    4. "Survival"

    A number of radio stations have already picked this one out as a hit

    and first tracks are almost always release; another sure-fire dance hit

    for Madonna; perhaps too light for radio but a radio remix could

    perhaps give it top 5 potential.

    Madonna may stop with four to be safe but further releases may include:

    5. "Human Nature"

    R&B appeal makes this a release choice that may well pay off; Madonna

    also might feel that her message in this song necessarily must go public;

    would require significant censuring.

    6. "I'd Rather Be Your Lover"

    This funky tune could be successful because of its R&B appeal; Madonna

    probably would like the idea of presenting a song and video

    collaboration with Me'Shell.

    ---

    Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 10:02:30 -0500 (EST)

    From: Brian D Daher <bdaher (at) magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>

    Subject: Her new SIGNATURE song

    I think Take a Bow is the perfect next single and will be a pop smash! This is

    the perfect Madonna "signature" song, meaning, she can end every show she ever

    does from now on singing this song.

    After that, Don't Stop should be the next single. I imagine that Bedtime

    Stories will be the fourth single but don't ever expect "Human Nature" to be

    released. Radio stations do not play songs that contain the word "shit." It's

    a good song, but it won't get played, I'm sure of it.

    I must confess, I didn't like BS when I first heard it. But after a few

    Entertainment Weekly (this is paraphrased heresay) said that "Erotica" embraced

    her gay fans and this album embraces her black fans. What do people think

    about that comment?

    ---

    Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 15:16:03 -0500 (EST)

    From: William McBrine <wmcbrine (at) clark.net>

    Subject: Madonna's new boyfriend - not Letterman

    The Halloween issue of _People_ magazine, p. 39, says:

    Madonna has a new boyfriend. He's Carlos Leon, a Cuban-born cyclist in

    his late 20's, whom she met recently in Manhattan's Central Park. The

    way we hear it, Madonna first spotted Leon biking during one of her

    frequent jogs in the park. A source says Madonna finally approached him,

    remarking about his "nice sunglasses," and the two have been

    romantically involved ever since.

    Leon, who also works at the front desk of a New York City gym, has

    traveled with Madonna twice to Miami and most recently to Paris, where

    she has been promoting her new CD, _Bedtime Stories_.

    ---

    Date: Mon, 31 Oct 94 0:09:59 EST

    From: Le Roi du Monde <gmurray (at) skidmore.EDU>

    Subject: single predictions

    I have very much enjoyed reading everyone's predictions for

    BEDTIME STORIES's single releases, so I will add mine...

    1. Secret

    -excellent choice for first release; a happy song that has

    broad interpretation; great acoustic instrumentation; catchy, fun,

    danceable and romantic

    2. Take A Bow / Bedtime Story

    -keeps Madonna on the dance floor with great remixes of

    perhaps her greatest club hit ever while producing a striking song and

    video that will have pop, AC, and R&B appeal for sure while getting

    Madonna's message across perfectly

    3. Survival

    -catchy, meaningful, but not too bitter or dark; short enough

    for lots of radio airplay & can be remixed for clubs

    4. Forbidden Love

    -addictive, innovative, and will seem to continue Madonna's

    new "romantic" image just in time for spring

    5. Don't Stop or I'd Rather Be Your Lover

    -since Me'Shell's duet with John Mellancamp was such a huge

    hit I think this could work. Otherwise radio will love to talk about

    how Madonna has returned to her roots with Don't Stop.

    I think that the people who think "Human Nature" will be

    released are misguided. Let's not forget the line "I'm not your

    bitch, don't hang your shit on me". If Madonna was going to release a

    song with "bitch" in it, she would've already done so with "Thief of

    Hearts", a more appealing song to the mainstream. "Human Nature" is

    very personal and experimental...though the whispering, foul language,

    jazzy/bass sound, and aggressiveness could fit in very well on "Erotica".

    This song would certainly be misunderstood and would undermine

    Madonna's new nicer girl image. Not a release for sure.

    I think "Sanctuary" also fits in this category. A wonderful

    song, one of the best on the album, but not commercial material.

    Madonna should know by now that people will not listen to songs about

    death (Oh Father and Bad Girl)..

    Personally, I would love these songs to be the releases:

    1. Secret

    2. Forbidden Love

    3. Sanctuary

    4. Inside of Me

    5. Human Nature

    But I am not the shallow, Puritanical American public.

    Has anyone noticed that the song "Bedtime Story" is the only

    song in which Madonna never says the title. Isn't this ironic, being

    that it's the TITLE track of the album?!

    ---

    Date: Sun, 30 Oct 94 19:12:57 CST

    From: "Don't hang your sh*t on Baby Fish Mouth" <J372%NEMOMUS.BITNET (at) mitvma.mit.edu>

    Subject: Songs I Love

    >So far, the two songs i dislike the most from BS are I'd Rather Be Your

    >Lover, and Don't Stop. DS especially has kind of less than intelligent

    >lyrics. The rest of the album is incredible.

    So far, the two songs I like the most from "Bedtime Stories" are "I'd

    Rather Be Your Lover" and "Don't Stop."

    Both songs have the grooviest (that's just about the only word that

    applies...) beat on the album. By the way, I can think of a lot of "less

    than intelligent" songs by Madonna that happen to be THE BEST!

    ---

    (More later...)

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