Confessit
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What that guy shouted was factual but it wasn’t appropriate to be shouting it out in a crowd that had gathered to pay respects to someone who had died, Queen or not it wasn’t behaviour to be tolerated at such an occasion. Period.
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Just now, JR! said:
So do people in the UK have national holidays to pay respect to the Queen's passing or is it business as usual?
Depends where you work my workplace is off but some places will be open.
It’s a choice but one by one they are declaring a day of closure.
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Just now, Kim said:
Allowing something to be done under your auspices - ie. putting your name on it - doesn't strike me as particularly great...
He has had direct involvement within it keeping contact with many of the mentors and participants since it’s creation. And the trust has changed lives I’ve seen it first hand.
Yes I agree it’s the strength of the people who run it but it was his idea and because of him it got started and has become as big as it has and helped as many as it has.Doesn’t make him particularly great but it is a great achievement nevertheless.
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2 minutes ago, Kim said:
Yeah that would be Prince Charles' princes trust. What has his ceremonial name got to do with it?
You asked me what great things any Prince of Wales had done so I answered ….
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1 minute ago, Kim said:
I'd ask you which Princes of Wales have achieved 'great things'... but sweetheart, I feel you should quit while you're behind!
I have a personal connection to The Princes Trust which massively helped me once some years ago. It’s a brilliant organisation and whilst the efforts of the organisation are largely of course due to the people running it and offering their time to help people who need it, it’s been a great legacy in the name of a Prince of Wales.
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3 minutes ago, Kim said:
What does it represent then... here in 2022?
It’s title passed down that’s been carried by some very significant people who, depending on your own opinion, have achieved great things or not , again depending on what you think about it.
There are many things that originate in one way in history but are not that today aren’t they? We could be here all day.
I can’t speak for the Welsh I don’t have a personal connection but if some Welsh people feel the title humiliates them than that’s up to them . Just like my opinion is not the opinion of every gay man it’s just mine I don’t speak for a vast majority of people.
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2 minutes ago, Kim said:
(some) people loved DIANA. She could have been Princess of Blackpool for all they cared.
That title was created to humiliate the Welsh people and keep them subjugated. It should be abolished - simple!
In the end she could of been yes I agree with your perspectives.
I don’t really think it represents that now though, do you? But feelings are feelings and if that’s how some feel today about the title that’s up to them.
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3 minutes ago, Kim said:
I can’t speak for the Welsh but there were many welsh people who adored her having the title Princess of Wales when she was alive and in death. I’ve seen them talk about her many Welsh business came out and loved the fact she was Princess of their country, perhaps it was the currency boost having someone so loved be associated with the country.
Again, not everyone.
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1 minute ago, Kim said:
No, but nor are they very popular outwith the suburbs of middle England. It's just a fact.
Oh and then there's the 'Prince of Wales' crap. Rightly causing a furore in Wales that (yet again) some English twit that doesn't even live there gets a title that was only ever created to humiliate them. Abolishing THAT would have been a good first 'modernising' step, no?
Diana never lived there ever but everyone loved the fact she had the title Princess of Wales…..
just something to ponder.
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12 minutes ago, runa said:
According to whom ?
Many tributes from people the world over and the places she travelled. She hasn’t had tomato’s thrown at her in the last 70 years.
Im not a monarchist, I don’t believe anyone is born better but the monarchy does have its supporters. I think that people who are hugely against the monarchy assume that position for the majority.
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Just now, Kim said:
That's the problem with you cap-doffers!
He hasn’t changed the positions yet. The Queen only died last week once she is buried next week many things will be announced and I believe Charles will ensure Andrew has zero part to play in the royal family.
I might be wrong though. It’s my belief that’s all.
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2 minutes ago, Kim said:
Nonsense. All it took was the Mail and Telegraph to start running negative stories about Liz after Di died and suddenly the whole edifice was on the brink of collapse. Just as they control the government, they control the monarchy. The 'secret agreement' between them - access for good coverage - is legendary.
There's a reason Chuck's personal press secretary is a Daily Mail hack - the very same paper that relentlessly pillories his own son and daughter-in-law on a daily basis, that shows just how disgustingly hypocritical he/they really are.
They did that ti take the heat off themselves after they chased Diana to death and hounded her for stories. Like her brother said it was the press who killed her in the end at her funeral.
The media certainly retain a huge influence but I don’t believe there’s this whiff of revolution in the air. I just don’t believe it personally.
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1 minute ago, Kim said:
Uh Huh. Yesterday I would have said there was no way Chuck would allow Andy the Paedo to have any meaningful role in the royal family, then...
I am shocked at this if true I find it hard to believe as he is to be traded as a private citizen now.
He actually hasn’t been appointed he’s just not corrected it yet as he was a Counsellor of State for the Queen but I think Charles understands there is no way back for him now and quite rightly so after this funeral he should disappear for good.
I think Charles will remove him from the post.
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1 minute ago, Kim said:
That's ALL royalty is darling.
In a way but people have to accept it and embrace it for it to work.
If it doesn’t stick it doesn’t stick. And it has stuck for years and continues to do so,
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12 minutes ago, Kim said:
If anything, the looming recession, cost of living crisis, people being stripped to the bone financially....all while some fucking grotesque coronation takes place next year, might just mobilize people.
Theres no way Charles will be crowned in any way shape of form like the Queen was. It will be a massively modernised ceremony he’s not stupid that kind of event won’t stick in 2023 like it did in 1953.
I think we will go far more like the other surviving monarchies in Europe such as the Scandinavian countries where they observe tradition without being so medieval in its involvement with it.
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9 minutes ago, Kim said:
If anything, the looming recession, cost of living crisis, people being stripped to the bone financially....all while some fucking grotesque coronation takes place next year, might just mobilize people.
As long as there’s a torie government it will only get worse.
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1 minute ago, Kim said:
I've already said it's not ending anytime soon. England's already an international pariah, if it loses it's ridiculous monarchy and traditions then it's really got no identity left.
And do not confuse people paying their respects to the dead (half of them tourists, and as the Scots did in respectful silence unlike the wailing and clapping in London) with strength of feeling on the monarchy.
I know you did I’m not arguing with the points you made, just pointing out that the monarchy is held enough in affection with the public to keep them there. It’s not all a PR exercise.
Look to the jubilee celebrations, the weddings of senior members when London is filled with the public and the country in all four corners celebrate.
Not everyone but enough for the monarchy in Britain to be regarded more as popular than unpopular.
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1 minute ago, Kim said:
I get a whiff of bootlicker about you...it's unfortunate.
You're TOLD that everyone likes those two smirking racist dimwits (we all know it was Wullie who asked what colour Harry's kid would be)
They have the biggest and best PR in town, and that's about it.
Haha I’m not a bootlicker I’m not saying everyone loves them in some ways they are decisive people, but William and Catherine have always had high approval ratings. Charles and Camilla haven’t but they have along with the Queen.
So the 2 million people going to London this week to pay respects is delusion? That’s not just PR. The monarchy is held in affection with the British public, not all I’m not stating that but certainly enough to keep them there.
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Just now, Lolo said:
I mostly think the coffin is empty. It’s so weird to drag a real body around town.
It’s tradition it’s been done for centuries.
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2 minutes ago, karbatal said:
Popular among who? Because I doubt the pegged Prince and the desperate wife are really beloved among their FUTURE subdits. I wish there was a real survey to know the real appeal of royal families.
Charles I agree isn’t as popular but William and Catherine are very popular. And the Queen was hugely popular across the world.
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8 minutes ago, Kim said:
I don't think it will unfortunately. It's just too entrenched. The North Korea style enforced mourning is testament to that. They still have a high approval rating among the public (except for Scotland)
Besides, (and English historians never like to discuss this funnily enough) They tried that once before when they killed Charles I and became a republic, then decided they didn't like it and reinstated the monarchy
That’s right and even in the darker times such as the time when Queen Victoria refused to make any public appearances for decades and following Princess Diana’s death, on both occasions the vast majority of the public questioned openly the role of the monarchy, they bounced back to be even more popular than they were before.
Its national identity and everyone likes to feel like they belong to something. Its in the human consciousness. That’s why essentially us lot are here, for Madonna.
Compared to many other monarchies particularly around Europe, considering most of them were toppled after the world wars the House of Windsor certainly re-invented itself enough to ensure survival. And it’s done it ever since.
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19 minutes ago, Lolo said:
Im pretty sure the Monarchy will end one way or another within the next 20 years tops.
But while it’s still there I just want to say I quite enjoy sitting on my couch, watching the spectacle while being aware I’m witnessing something that’s so very obsolete and probably happening for the last time ever. It feels very historic and surreal. Thank you citizens of the UK for financing this.
Why do are you convinced it will end in 20 year or so? The younger generations William and Catherine vastly popular and now the Queen has died the whole thing will modernise even more it makes no sense that it will all end in 20 years.
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5 hours ago, karbatal said:
I think inevitably all monarchies will disappear this century. New monarchs seem much more useless than old ones. Old ones had a moment to shine, even if it happened 50 years ago, and unite but now the new ones only cut ribbons.
I disagree.
If you look at Norway’s monarch they are vastly more popular than ours is here in the U.K. the Scandinavian countries have always had very popular monarchies in modern times. The Seanad avian public adore the royals.In terms of the late Queen, her popularity was massive mainly due to the fact she was doing it so long even the most committed republicans respected her.
I do think monarchies today have a place they do a job in society. I agree nobody should be born better but the success of 100s of charities depend on royal patronage, tourism and all the staff that keep jobs due to the fact a living monarchy exists.
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On 9/7/2022 at 4:46 PM, Kim said:
I was wondering what happened to @Confessit
I’m back now out of recovery hun.
Queen Elizabeth DEAD...
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You are spot on. Freedom of speech is important.
But time and places that’s how I see it.
Someone’s death procession/funeral where family members are mourning and people have gathered to mark their respects is not the place to start hurling abuse.
It’s called decency id say the same about a family funeral or anyone paying respects in that kind of setting.