peter
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Thanks so much, @rebelheart! I always find the credits interesting...
One little curiosity is that it was rumored Edgar Barrera (sp?), who apparently is Maluma’s frequent producer, was rumored to be involved in the Maluma collaborations. Since he’s not listed, it makes me wonder if the rumor was completely incorrect, or if he was involved in Soltera, and that’s why he was present in the studio during their recording sessions...
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25 minutes ago, acko said:
I'm nobody too!
You’re somebody to me!
(But i’m nobody, so ... doesn’t mean much, i guess.
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11 minutes ago, Amelia said:
As much as some hate Guy, he's definitely part of the team. He's been with her since the early 90's, so those who are hoping he'd go away, may need to deal with it. He's done a lot of good and made her loads of money.
It would also be more than fair to say that Madonna has made Guy Oseary a great deal of money.
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1 hour ago, Shaun said:
What do you guys think a Cyndi Lauper forum is like?
By the way, when I said it was exhausting, I didn’t mean because it was a long read ... I read everything before responding (again) ... I meant I had so many emotions, agreeing with some, being annoyed by others, but waiting til I got through it all to write. Only to find I was too tired to really respond directly to this person or that person. I guess I’m just like Madonna in the article “tired.”
How has she been able to fight this long? God grant her stength to continue.
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This thread has been exhausting...
Clearly this writer had access for DAYS given the amount of behind the scenes details she discusses (BBMA *rehearsals* and backstage at the GLAAD ceremony), not to mention access to Madonna’s home and inner circle of friends, associates, and staff.
The more I thought about it, the more I remembered an unexpected undercurrent in the story. The writer’s unvoiced (at the time) comment about Madonna’s use of the word “rape” definitely jumped out at me during my first read. (I’ve only read it once in full.) But, upon reflection, all the mentions of “fearing” Madonna, the “work on her face” (which implies perhaps more than what Madonna has availed herself of), the “control” (of the lighting, the media, etc.), calling her a cactus, all the aging focus (even after Madonna told her she emphasizes it too much), pointing out Madonna’s privilege as a mother vs her own ... there’s more. Little mentions come back here and there, and I think, “Hmm...”
I feel the author may very well be devastated, and I feel a little bad for her. I think if I were assigned this task, I might very well fall short of Madonna’s expectations, too. It’s hard for a fan, I think. If the journalist weren’t a fan, this reaction might not sting. “I just hope she’s in a safe place when she hears about it.”
There were some real indulgences taken by the author, writing about her own upbringing and talking about her mother’s involvement in that community of artists and such. It’s a little outside the scope?
I wonder if the author’s question near the beginning — about whether she should take her coat off — is telling, too... Perhaps she herself thought this wasn’t going to go well. Had she been sent with the assignment to excavate the “Madonna at 60” angle and already felt the trepidation of having to push that beyond what Madonna really wanted to focus on. The interviewer “felt uncomfortable” with discussing any topic other than motherhood ... ? Madonna “lost her” when she started talking religious viewpoints and discussing paradoxes. Perhaps Madonna expected more of that discussion and less about the things Madonna considered trivial (like how shiny her tea kettle was).
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Re: Harvey Weinstein ... his response conveniently did NOT quote the part where M said she wasn’t gloating about anyone’s demise... she just saw some comfort in seeing someone being held accountable when they’d abused their power — and I think that is to her credit. It’s curious that he just quotes a lot of her song titles and doesn’t really swipe back. The end is a little bit of a jab, but not vicious.
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Just now, Jazzy Jan said:
One hour to go to Midnight here in Australia - can't wait to hear this one.
Woo hoo! Enjoy it, Janelle!!
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12 minutes ago, dcbyebyebaby said:
Apparently Madonna only appears for like 5 seconds. Probably the scene we already saw with the veil.
Like Veronica on the Via Dolorosa perhaps?
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11 minutes ago, dcbyebyebaby said:
There are other video links in the thread. Posted before that.
Thanks! Yes, I just saw the vid sample.
I hope the sound of Madonna’s breath is her extinguishing the flames at the stake to save “Joan of Arc.”
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11 minutes ago, Nonoka said:
You can directly hear a 30-sec preview here (it's official)
This doesn’t work for me in the US, just fyi to anyone else ... on my cellphone, anyway. It opens my app, where I have the Madame X tracks already released, but I can’t listen to a snippet of Dark Ballet yet.
Thanks for the suggestion anyway, @Nonoka! Looks like I’ll have to wait just a little longer! I keep telling myself I can make it til midnight. (The work day will go fast — it’s the last few hours that seem to drag.)
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Just now, Rugbyguy said:
I’m gonna wait until the album is released to hear it. This is going to be the longest fucking week of my life.
Wishing you strength! I wouldn’t be able to do it, tbqh! Haha!
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So can’t wait for this at midnight tonight!! Waiting all day is gonna be a struggle, but so worth it!
Thanks to everyone for the descriptions to keep us excited!!
Enjoy, everyone!
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Also, I noticed the author seemed to have a lot of access to “inner circle,” no? Quoting Guy Oseary and Rosie O’Donnell... describing her “staff” (for lack of a better term) by observing them and apparently talking with them, too.
Hearing the album happened here as I suspected it might have gone down for others — like, I think, the British Vogue writer ... who talked about album details but never divulged how it was heard, and who also talked about Madonna walking into the room “about an hour later” (after listening to the album, perhaps? along with enjoying the chef’s treats?)...
Just random thoughts. There really was so much more in this, and lots of thought-provoking stuff. These are just random things that struck me.
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7 minutes ago, Flip The Switch said:
Perfect:
Absolutely.
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Wow. I really enjoyed this — photos (great concepts from JR) and words.
I feel ... very reflective just now, after finishing reading it. I also feel sad. I’m not sure that’s the intended effect, I suppose I should feel inspired. I think the writer did a good job with the chosen style and assignment. And I appreciate the author’s genuine love for Madonna and refusal to be negative and critical. Still, there are moments that make me feel sad. (Like when she speaks of her loneliness in Lisbon — that sacrifice for her children! And how she hoped to make friends... just for an example.)
I love her always and am so excited for the era to really be unleashed when the album is released.
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I am chill, @Amelia, and I’m enjoying things just fine.
I never insinuated Madonna was performing live at an Apple store. I’m simply reading the text on the page — the link I clicked on from this thread.
Taking a break from the internet to do some things in the real world where words mean what they mean.
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10 minutes ago, Amelia said:
You're right, you are projecting what you want to believe into to it.
As for the expiration, I think someone else posted that it's a U.S. base link. (edit: I just checked it out! People have to apply to certain locations. It's to test out their app and remix the song. It's not very clear! ) Again, it's not a live session of anything.
I’m in the U.S.
And others are projecting just as much as me. Fine, you can say I’m wrong. What you are saying is that Madonna is wrong. Which is completely possible. But I am telling people what she said.
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9 minutes ago, Amelia said:
I get the impression that it's a web video/lab deal. I don't think she's doing anything live in a store. I have a feeling, she filmed an introduction and interview for Apple coinciding with this new remix lab deal.
Also, Madonna is old school, so of course she calls songs released "singles". She misspoke in the sense you're interpreting it as. "I Rise" and "Future" are not considered singles. They are simply promotional tracks released early, like most artists do anymore.
Or, she spoke correctly, and we are projecting what we want to believe on it.
Look, I get what everyone is saying. It’s just funny to me how everyone still re-translates what “record” means when Rosie says it and what “single” means when Madonna says it.
At this point, I kinda don’t care. We know she has prepared a visual feast as well as an aural odyssey for us, and I am ready for it. What label we want to slap on the music — the SONGS and COLLECTION OF SONGS — is of little concern to me now. We’ll get videos for songs that aren’t singles, I suspect.
Also, if you click the first link to the Apple website in this thread (a page back now, I think?) — it says something about this session having ended, and to try selecting a different store location. It says you’ll be able to use new apps to re-construct Madonna’s “Crave” on devices provided in store.
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The Apple thing is in-store only ... ?! And there are no scheduled sessions in the two Apple stores in my metropolitan area. So ... where are these events being held? NY and LA only?
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1 hour ago, karbatal said:
Love the fact that she launched iTunes and now launches Apple Music.
The only thing that would make Spotify stumble would be the vast catalogue of iTunes. There's lots of music with no license for Spotify.
Sorry, as pointed out above by other posters, she did not launch iTunes. It must’ve been around for four or five years before she finally made her catalogue available for purchase on iTunes. It was a big deal when she did it — she had her arm in a sling, recovering from her first horseriding accident in the lead-up to the release of COADF, and she appeared via a video call speaking with Steve Jobs at an Apple event. (It was a really sweet little appearance; she was cute and funny.)
But we look like delusional fans if we say she launched iTunes. It’s just not true. That account has misused the word inaugurate. I can understand what they were trying to say, but that isn’t the way the word should be used in relationship to iTunes.
You could say that COADF was her inaugural album release on iTunes, because that was her first new album available for purchase from iTunes upon release. But iTunes existed before that.
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1 hour ago, karbatal said:
I Rise was not a single and Future either. Third single will be the one with a video.
I understand what you are saying and normally I would agree with you, buf Madonna herself called them singles, Karb. I would call them “pre-release tracks” but ... whatever. Suit yourself. We’ll see what happens when Dark Ballet is released — whether it has a video or not.
Considering the way that account words things (she did not inaugurate iTunes in 2005, as others have said; she inteoduced her catalogue on iTunes in 2005), we may be splitting hairs over something that is not accurate anyway.
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Well ... Crave could be considered the third single, really, because Medellín was first, I Rise was second, and then came Crave, prior to Future. (Dark Ballet is the fifth and final pre-release track.)
I know we as fans probably think Medellín is first and Crave is second, since those two received the music video treatment, but ... in a recent radio interview, Madonna told the DJ it was her record company’s idea to release “five singles” before the album came out. So ... who knows? We’ll find out Monday, I guess.
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1 hour ago, CzarnaWisnia said:
You don't deserve 4 stars for nuggets.
umm, Madonna does. I love nuggets?
I also would give @Kurt420 4 stars for his nuggets?
What did I just say? Is something wrong with me?!
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2 hours ago, Voguerista said:
Life is not measured by the breaths we take but by the Madonna albums that take our breath away.
And I’m BREATHLESS.
(pun intended because i’m corny like dat.)
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7 hours ago, Danmacevents said:
No album is the same so I don't understand why people expect an album to be a continuation.
You were a younger fan when this happened, so you can be forgiven for not really having the context ... I completely agree with what you’re saying here, and if your comment was responding to @Kurt420 at all, I am sure I can safely say he agrees with you, too. It’s just that, at the time, we knew AL (the album) was completely produced with Mirwais, and that was the first time she’d done that. (TB and LAP were mixes of Bray and Leonard.) So it is understandable that some fans, going in, had a little preconceived notion of how AL might come out (e.g., as Music Part II). Sometimes it takes us a while to learn our lessons and realize how Madonna will not always be predictable, even when we “know” facts about a project (not just have opinions or preferences). Who, for example, would have guessed what “Hey, You” would sound like if it had been known in advance that it was written and co-produced with Pharrell, eh?
Anyway, I didn’t mean to nitpick. This just struck me. Please post more photos of German Madame X in lederhoesen, @Danmacevents!!
Madame X Production Credits :
in ARCHIVE - The MADAME X Forum
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Interesting! Thanks, @trevorhog and @Flip The Switch!