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BOXSCORE: S&S grossed $407.7 million!!! Attended by 3.5 million people!


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#1 MOTHERANDFATHER03

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Posted 02 September 2008 - 11:25 PM

When will the boxscore from Cardiff and the rest start coming to billboard? this week?

#2 FreeMySoul

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Posted 02 September 2008 - 11:30 PM

after the tour ends, i believe

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Posted 02 September 2008 - 11:35 PM

We will get individual dates but they don't always come in a timely manner. Sometimes it will be weeks then a slew of shows reported at once. Is that still how they do it?

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Posted 02 September 2008 - 11:53 PM

The first few dates for the Confessions Tour were reported about 2 weeks after the first show. Don't know if that will be the case this time...

I imagine Live Nation will want to get those good numbers out there to help their stock and prove the mega-deal with Madonna was a wise one.

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Posted 02 September 2008 - 11:55 PM

Yah- whenever the numbers are reported to BB Boxscore, that's when BB will run 'em.

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Posted 03 September 2008 - 12:24 AM

i dont know how it works overseas but the reason we had the boxscore numbers on the the last couple of tours is because of BILLBOARD MAGAZINE.

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Posted 03 September 2008 - 12:29 AM

Yes- Live Nation sends the figures to Billboard, and BB in turn publishes them.

A side tidbit, something to keep in mind: Billboard covers worldwide grosses, whereas Pollstar only covers North America.

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Posted 04 September 2008 - 12:32 AM

thank you to all..... i just know this is gonna be big, when they do report the numbers!

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Posted 04 September 2008 - 01:07 AM

They didn't report them today so my bet would be that they are there a week from today.

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Posted 16 September 2008 - 08:48 PM

Any news?

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 01:42 AM

Boxscores are reported on Wednesdays. We will find out tomorrow if they are out for the week.

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 05:00 AM

I wonder if they'll be fraudulent like the CT boxscores.  Somehow Hartford was magically "sold out" even though it wasn't....

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 05:04 AM

^ Many people have only explained how boxscores work like 100 times here. If you can't educate yourself on the topic, don't bother us by making stupid comments in this thread. thanks.

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 11:30 AM

QUOTE (boytoyville @ Sep 16 2008, 05:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
^ Many people have only explained how boxscores work like 100 times here. If you can't educate yourself on the topic, don't bother us by making stupid comments in this thread. thanks.

How is his comment 'stupid'? The trick is that they say that the seats weren't 'available' and call it sold out anyway when the point is entire sections were covered by TARPS. I think YOU'RE the stupid one for blindly defending everything your QUEEN does.

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 11:46 AM

It's been explained to DEATH. Once a show is SOLD-OUT, it's because it's SOLD-OUT as per the organiser's numbers and specifications. Just because a venue X has a capacity of 50.000 it means 50.000 tickets were released, some areas/sections are never released. So if for venue X there were 34.576 tickets available and 34.576 were sold, then it's SOLD OUT, regardless if there are 8.000 or 9.000 empty seats.

There are NO manipulations. Wait until boxscore is released, sheesh.

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 11:52 AM

QUOTE (Hafo @ Sep 16 2008, 11:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's been explained to DEATH. Once a show is SOLD-OUT, it's because it's SOLD-OUT as per the organiser's numbers and specifications. Just because a venue X has a capacity of 50.000 it means 50.000 tickets were released, some areas/sections are never released. So if for venue X there were 34.576 tickets available and 34.576 were sold, then it's SOLD OUT, regardless if there are 8.000 or 9.000 empty seats.

There are NO manipulations. Wait until boxscore is released, sheesh.

And how is that not cheating? Just because they know some sections wont sell and they dont release them only to make the show appear sold out?

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 12:08 PM

It is really stupid to assume that CT numbers are fraudulent... remember that back with RIT (was it RIT?) That Slane Castle gig barely missed that sold-out figure by some thousands out of 80K... it missed sold out status with less than a 1% yet it wasn't reported as sold-out... so you believe what you wanna believe...

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 12:37 PM

Because they couldnt TARP OFF the unsold sections. Who cares anyway? Madonna is a huge live draw and that's the fact. Does the SOLD OUT tag somehow validate your fandom?

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 12:49 PM

QUOTE (GimmeSomeMo @ Sep 17 2008, 11:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And how is that not cheating? Just because they know some sections wont sell and they dont release them only to make the show appear sold out?



And if release those seats, you get posts like Madonna is ripping fans off.

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 12:52 PM

The rule applies to ALL concerts for ALL artists. It's up to the promoters to declare the amount of tickets available and the amount of tickets sold. I am sure Boxscore also does some verification on their own.

Sheesh.

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 05:20 PM

QUOTE (GimmeSomeMo @ Sep 20 2008, 08:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Because they couldnt TARP OFF the unsold sections.

uhmmm... have you seen the Slane Venue? I there weren't even seats... all i saw on the vids are people standing and it's outdoors...

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 05:59 PM

If she does around 60 shows, most of them stadiums, then u have with an average gross of 7 million $ per show:

60 X 7 million ~ 400 million $.

That would be fantastic and would be a big competitor for Dion's TC tour. Her fans already claim her tour will be the biggest tour by a female artist ever, surpassing TCT, but if Madonna and LN are carefull to add some more shows (maybe a shorter second leg next year), SS could easily hold that title for Madonna!

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 08:36 PM

QUOTE (mtzlplk @ Sep 17 2008, 05:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
uhmmm... have you seen the Slane Venue? I there weren't even seats... all i saw on the vids are people standing and it's outdoors...

Uhhhmmmmm.... thats EXACTLY what Im saying.

#24 boytoyville

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Posted 18 September 2008 - 01:13 AM

^ Missed the point again. lol. This has nothing to do with me defending myu Queen lol, it has to do with actually knowing how concert numbers are tabulated & clearly you know nothing about it.....

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Posted 18 September 2008 - 01:27 AM

it just seems like a lot of the "fans" on this forum want to hear she is failing and then they will be happy, but god forbid we discuss her amazing success be it a tour or anything all the information reported is somehow inaccurate or fraud has been committed.




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