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Just now, PDC717 said:

Daily death toll in Italy was still over 600, only dropped about 100 from the day before.

Still, the fact that dropped instead of increasing is something. 

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2 hours ago, acko said:

The sad thing is that with no real health care system the US will be hit like a third world country within the richest country in the world.
So sad for those who are 'poor'.

Poor or like me who moved to the US 3 wees ago and (chose the perfect time to move), I signed up for my employer healthcare during the open enrollment window, but it doesn't actually start covering me until April 1 (absolutely nobody tells you this you just find out when you think you got the coronavirus) so now I'm fucking screwed or I pay out of pocket  :lmao:

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2 hours ago, acko said:

The sad thing is that with no real health care system the US will be hit like a third world country within the richest country in the world.
So sad for those who are 'poor'.

 

Exactly

 

Too bad the US political system is rigged and completely artificial head to toe. It's like the Billboard Charts. And after this goes away, when it goes away, still nobody will care to address this most serious issue of public health care.

I laugh every time some Americans describe universal health care as a socialist measure. Like, do they actually understand what a socialist society really looks like and feels like? Or worse, a communist one.

If they think that expecting a minimum of welfare for everybody regardless of income bracket and after you certainly pay your share of taxes is tantamount to "socialism"

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16 minutes ago, ULIZOS said:

Poor or like me who moved to the US 3 wees ago and (chose the perfect time to move), I signed up for my employer healthcare during the open enrollment window, but it doesn't actually start covering me until April 1 (absolutely nobody tells you this you just find out when you think you got the coronavirus) so now I'm fucking screwed or I pay out of pocket  :lmao:

I'm very sorry about the really bad timing. Just think that the majority of cases don't need medical intervention. Unless you feel real difficulties for breathing, you simply take rest, calm the fever with paracetamol and drink plenty of liquids. 

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17 minutes ago, XXL said:

 

Exactly

 

Too bad the US political system is rigged and completely artificial head to toe. It's like the Billboard Charts. And after this goes away, when it goes away, still nobody will care to address this most serious issue of public health care.

I laugh every time some Americans describe universal health care as a socialist measure. Like, do they actually understand what a socialist society really looks like and feels like? Or worse, a communist one.

If they think that expecting a minimum of welfare for everybody regardless of income bracket and after you certainly pay your share of taxes is tantamount to "socialism"

The fact that the politician defending a real health care (Sanders) won't even be the democrat candidate says it all. This is one of those mysteries of USA culture. 

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9 minutes ago, karbatal said:

I'm very sorry about the really bad timing. Just think that the majority of cases don't need medical intervention. Unless you feel real difficulties for breathing, you simply take rest, calm the fever with paracetamol and drink plenty of liquids. 

Thank you! Luckily I brought 2 boxes of paracetamol with me just out of random so I'm good. It feels like a normal flu, but I had a mini panic attack late last night because I thought "hmmm what do I do if things take a turn for the worse" :lol: 

Everyone pray that I make it to April 1. 

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12 hours ago, ULIZOS said:

So, I'm basically sure I got it, and I'm really fucking annoyed with how there're 3081408103903084098 articles about stupid shit like "coronavirus can last up to 4 - 48 hours on surfaces" but I can't find anything on what to actually do. 

Since I feel kind of bad, basically like the flu, but not terrible, I THINK I should just stay home? And only go out into the world to find medical help if I can't breathe?

Anyway, if I die I want to be displayed like this, k? thanks 

 

 

You'll be fine sweetie 😃

❤️❤️

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15 minutes ago, karbatal said:

The fact that the politician defending a real health care (Sanders) won't even be the democrat candidate says it all. This is one of those mysteries of USA culture. 

 

Absolutely

Such a crying shame

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3 hours ago, Rebel Saviour said:

Maybe it's too early to say, but it seems that the contagion is slowing down in Lombardy. Yesterday the numbers of reported deaths and infected people reduced by half, despite being still high. We're hopefully starting to see the effects of the country lockdown.

 

Yes it is

Hopefully it goes on this way

And better and better every day

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9 hours ago, swimtoshore said:

He is basically saying - the health of the stock market might just have to take precedence over the health of US citizens and the rest of the world in 15 days (when that starts and ends who the fuck knows). At that time he could choose to end lock-downs and push people back to work and be back to calling it basically just the flu and saying that fewer people will die from it than if the economy is crashed and millions and millions are unemployed and forced into poverty which will 'cause more deaths'. This is based off something Steve Hilton said on The Next Revolution on Fox News (using reporting on an estimated 130,000 preventable deaths in the UK due to 'austerity measures' as his proof point - which is really quite dishonest when in actual fact the study he is citing was specifically addressing the impacts of underfunding of public healthcare. What is especially galling is that Hilton was Chief Strategist to PM David Cameron during the period of time when this underfunding occurred........)

Everything Trump tweets out can usually be traced back to something said on Faux News

FUCK THIS EVIL PIECE OF SHIT

 

:thumbsup:

 

The ignorant moron in his desperate attempts to butter up the American public, making false promises on America's supposed greatness, has yet to grasp that if people die in droves there won't be ANY economy to fiddle with, not the real and much less the financial one

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Take care @ULIZOS! I hope you will feel better very soon! hugs!!!!

I've been somatizing and having panic attacks every night tbh, the thought that hospitals over here are full and if for some reason you might need help you have to go to the hospital and risk getting infected is been sending me into full freak out mode.

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1 minute ago, Andra said:

Take care @ULIZOS! I hope you will feel better very soon! hugs!!!!

I've been somatizing and having panic attacks every night tbh, the thought that hospitals over here are full and if for some reason you might need help you have to go to the hospital and risk getting infected is been sending me into full freak out mode.

 

Andra, I can totally relate to those awful feelings too but keeping our spirits up and not dreading the worse and worrying in advance it's the only thing that's going to protect us emotionally and mentally, aside from social distancing etc

I'm sure we'll survive ❤️

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32 minutes ago, karbatal said:

The fact that the politician defending a real health care (Sanders) won't even be the democrat candidate says it all. This is one of those mysteries of USA culture. 

Sanders takes everything too far. The man literally believes that an American citizen should only be allowed to have so much money, and make so much money per year. That is the exact opposite of capitalism, a free market and a free society. He’s also already at the life expectancy for an American male, and the election hasn’t even happened yet.

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1 hour ago, PDC717 said:

Daily death toll in Italy was still over 600, only dropped about 100 from the day before.

He's talking about the contagion not the death toll, almost 1000 less positive cases, 25% less than the previous day, and even 💯 less deaths is still welcomed news, no? :laugh:

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1 minute ago, XXL said:

 

Andra, I can totally relate to those awful feelings too but keeping our spirits up and not dreading the worse and worrying in advance it's the only thing that's going to protect us emotionally and mentally, aside from social distancing etc

I'm sure we'll survive ❤️

@XXL, I adore u!! I know that you are totally right, It's just hard for me to be rational these days...lmao,  I'm totally the type of person who worries in advance and thinks up the worst case scenarios to the point that I mentally exhaust myself.

But yes, we will survive!❤️🙏

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23 minutes ago, PDC717 said:

Sanders takes everything too far. The man literally believes that an American citizen should only be allowed to have so much money, and make so much money per year. That is the exact opposite of capitalism, a free market and a free society. He’s also already at the life expectancy for an American male, and the election hasn’t even happened yet.

 

Well, take Biden then and you'll have another four years of the same ill-fated soup, i.e. fake illusory growth, artificially low interest rates (that only create more taxpayer debt, the QE shit game has to go, same over here in Europe with the ECB) and money spent on wars with fake justifications in a desperate attempt to maintain the dying US military and currency empire alive, in the wake of an increasingly livelier and richer East, whom American elites don't want Europe to do business with

Moreover, wars which do not make Americans safer or more prosperous in the least and by reflection the rest of the world. I think a way in the middle is always the best option. You describe Sanders as if he was a Marxist or something

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5 minutes ago, Andra said:

@XXL, I adore u!! I know that you are totally right, It's just hard for me to be rational these days...lmao,  I'm totally the type of person who worries in advance and thinks up the worst case scenarios to the point that I mentally exhaust myself.

But yes, we will survive!❤️🙏

 

You're right

We must prepare for the worse

Always

 

However this type of situation worsen if we tend to focus too much on the negative, it's like worrying attracts more trouble, if it makes sense :laugh: 😘 That's what I meant

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27 minutes ago, PDC717 said:

Sanders takes everything too far. The man literally believes that an American citizen should only be allowed to have so much money, and make so much money per year. That is the exact opposite of capitalism, a free market and a free society. He’s also already at the life expectancy for an American male, and the election hasn’t even happened yet.

 

And by the way capitalism isn't at odds with having a national health service that doesn't discriminate or penalize based on income brackets, as many rich, capitalistic European countries with universal healthcare attest to. You can have both at the same time. So I don't get the argument/fuss to begin with

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5 minutes ago, XXL said:

However this type of situation worsen if we tend to focus too much on the negative, it's like worrying attracts more trouble, if it makes sense :laugh: 😘 That's what I meant

Yes it makes sense, and I think that when this is over a lot of us will need psychological help

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23 minutes ago, XXL said:

He's talking about the contagion not the death toll, almost 1000 less positive cases, 25% less than the previous day, and even 💯 less deaths is still welcomed news, no? :laugh:

I read they tested less people that day.

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37 minutes ago, Dany Targaryen said:

The disease itself is not the only problem. There is also the panic, and what the lockdown is gonna do to the whole system if it persists.

Of course, sending people to work and do like nothing is happening won't hurt the system either. But hey ! At least we won't have panic attack ! 

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1 hour ago, PDC717 said:

Sanders takes everything too far. The man literally believes that an American citizen should only be allowed to have so much money, and make so much money per year. That is the exact opposite of capitalism, a free market and a free society. He’s also already at the life expectancy for an American male, and the election hasn’t even happened yet.

well, in my very very personal opinion, Sanders may be too extreme there but most of his program could fit in centre or even mild right parties in Europe. 

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47 minutes ago, Dany Targaryen said:

The disease itself is not the only problem. There is also the panic, and what the lockdown is gonna do to the whole system if it persists.

People lives are far more important than any market. I feel proud that this time people mattered more than economy in many countries.

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2 hours ago, ULIZOS said:

I just moved to the US and it’s a mess. My private healthcare doesn’t cover me until April 1, and I seriously don’t know what to do. 

Omg, that’s unfortunate. However I m sure you ll have the normal flu and would be okey. I m sure in your case M would be right: if it’s bitter at the start, then it’s sweeter in the end. I m sure your move would turn out for the better in the end. Hope you are feeling better now. Karbatal is right: just monitor your temperature and drink lots of fluids. 

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Second day with less positives and less deaths in Italy. Still so incredibly sad, but I pray that this is a sign. Spain goes one week after Italy, so I hope next week we have also some better news. This week will be absolutely dramatic in Spain. The prime minister said in his latest speech that we should be psychologically prepared.

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