Jazzy Jan Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 12 minutes ago, Kim said: Terrifying having such incompetents running the country - and so manyĀ people needlessly dead. Notable by their absence in his evidence are two main players Gove and Sunak who're apparentlyĀ Murdoch's favourites to replace the fat oaf. It is terrifying indeed. Having fools who crave power in charge is dangerous. Seen it in the workplace to know how damaging it is. Having leaders in chargeĀ of countriesĀ who are so incompetent, arrogant and stupid is catastrophic and so damaging to everyone.Ā Ā The Murdoch press should take a lot of the blame. They gleefully pick and choose who to endorse to suit their own selfish agenda. Then manipulate the way people are told information. Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 Omg that account of horrifying psychopath decisions told by Cummings!Ā I don't know where to start.Ā Just this alone... "CummingsĀ also said it was suggested chief medical officer Professor Chris Whitty should inject Johnson with the virus on live TV to show it was nothing to be scared of" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 How could we as society in only 15 years turn so stupid? This is happening everywhere!Ā This would be the biggest scandal. People would be outraged.Ā But look at USA, where those who instigated the attack to the white house are comfortable.Ā Look at Spain where the stupid major of Madrid kept all open amidst deaths and she's reelected with the biggest majority. Look at Sweden, where they openly followed the herd immunity path and thousands died.Ā This is so scary! We've turned a complete bunch of stupid population. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 9 hours ago, Jazzy Jan said: It is terrifying indeed. Having fools who crave power in charge is dangerous. Seen it in the workplace to know how damaging it is. Having leaders in chargeĀ of countriesĀ who are so incompetent, arrogant and stupid is catastrophic and so damaging to everyone.Ā Ā The Murdoch press should take a lot of the blame. They gleefully pick and choose who to endorse to suit their own selfish agenda. Then manipulate the way people are told information. Ā Only some years ago it didn't matter who told the info. People knew an scandal and they reacted.Ā Nowadays it's as if something is told by the "leftist press" it means it's not valid. This is the Fox News syndrome we watched unfold in the USA and now it's everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 And it's a sociological phenomenon affecting other issues too. Just look at the Instagram thread: things that would be laughed at from other people are applauded there because "it's our team". As if our team had the right to do all.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardiganstarlet Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 I find it interesting that someone like Cummings who helped gaslight a nation to achieve Brexit is now doing the same to his former āfriendsā. Unsurprising when theyāreĀ all such bottom feeders. Heāll obviously do and say anything to complete an agenda. Not that I believe a word Boris says either. I donāt think any of them are going anywhere though sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzy Jan Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 21 hours ago, karbatal said: Only some years ago it didn't matter who told the info. People knew an scandal and they reacted.Ā Nowadays it's as if something is told by the "leftist press" it means it's not valid. This is the Fox News syndrome we watched unfold in the USA and now it's everywhere. So sadly true. The damage Murdoch has made with ultra right wing reporting now mainstream and acceptedĀ is horrifying and so insidious too. Ā They expertly know the triggers to inflame people and donāt care if it isĀ factualĀ to their stories or for the damage they do.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzy Jan Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 Dominic Cummings revelations about Boris JohnsonĀ are now getting a lot of media attention worldwide. Have seen major reports of it in Australia a lot now. Boris does notĀ deny the shocking allegationsĀ and instead just vaguely waffles on about other things. Ā He is an absolute embarrassment to the UK. Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 Oh I'm so shocked at this news just HAPPENINGĀ to comeĀ out this weekend... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jazzy Jan Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 11 hours ago, Kim said: Oh I'm so shocked at this news just HAPPENINGĀ to comeĀ out this weekend... Ā 7 hours ago, Suedehead said: Ā This is one of the oldest tricks in the book. Try toĀ deflect and bury bad news by talking about frivolous so called feel good big events. Boris isĀ a lying inept heartless idiotĀ only interested in himself and the right wing media not only letĀ him get away with it, they actively protect him. Just disgusting.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 9 hours ago, Jazzy Jan said: This is one of the oldest tricks in the book. Try toĀ deflect and bury bad news by talking about frivolous so called feel good big events. Boris isĀ a lying inept heartless idiotĀ only interested in himself and the right wing media not only letĀ him get away with it, they actively protect him. Just disgusting.Ā He didn't even need to go to the trouble of this particular dead cat. EverythingĀ Cummings said has been forgotten already. In fact I think Boris' approval rating has actually gone UP (in England)Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzy Jan Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 1 minute ago, Kim said: He didn't even need to go to the trouble of this particular dead cat. EverythingĀ Cummings said has been forgotten already. In fact I think Boris' approval rating has actually gone UP (in England)Ā Kim, that sickens me. I now understand the reasons people have become disillusioned with the opposition ( thanks to the UK people that contribute to this thread ) but I still find anyone liking and supporting Boris insane and morally bankrupt. It is like watching a horror play. Ā At least many Americans understood and were disgusted by Trump. Where is the outrage over Borisās callous disregard to victims and complete inept performance. He does not even DENY what Cummings said. Just bumbles along and people shrug it iff. Utterly terrifying to be honest. Imagine him leading the UK in a war.Ā Ā Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 2 minutes ago, Jazzy Jan said: Kim, that sickens me. I now understand the reasons people have become disillusioned with the opposition ( thanks to the UK people that contribute to this thread ) but I still find anyone liking and supporting Boris insane and morally bankrupt. It is like watching a horror play. Ā At least many Americans understood and were disgusted by Trump. Where is the outrage over Borisās callous disregard to victims and complete inept performance. He does not even DENY what Cummings said. Just bumbles along and people shrug it iff. Utterly terrifying to be honest. Imagine him leading the UK in a war.Ā A compliant supine media andĀ zero opposition are a deadly combo. If there's no one there to hold you to account then... At least the US has some big media outlets not afraid to call out what was happening. Journalist Peter Oborne (an avowed ConservativeĀ but anti this new Tory regime) confirmed thatĀ BBC executives told himĀ itās wrong to expose lies told by a British prime minister because it 'undermines trust in British politics'.Ā It's tinpot stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 Oh and to the homos in here who don't think anything ever affects them under this new regime, the anti trans sentiment allowed to take hold over the last couple of years is coming for you soon too, as it always does... Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 I expect that the LGTB community is next in this reactionary crusade in most countries. Women and immigrants have already been targeted.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 32 minutes ago, karbatal said: I expect that the LGTB community is next in this reactionary crusade in most countries. Women and immigrants have already been targeted.Ā I'm already starting to see the old gay=paedo tropeĀ take hold with the same groups demonising trans people under the guise of advocating for 'women's rights'. So fucking insidious. Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 21 minutes ago, Kim said: I'm already starting to see the old gay=paedo trope take hold with the same groups demonising trans people under the guise of advocating for 'women's rights'. So fucking insidious. Ā And our community was lucky that the pandemic started before pride. If not, be sure we would be to blame, as women have been blamed in Spain since 8 March 2020.Ā But I'm optimistic. The time of the white straight Christian ruling all is over. They feel cornered and angry. Ā But society has evolved already. Their time is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 11 minutes ago, karbatal said: But I'm optimistic. The time of the white straight Christian ruling all is over. They feel cornered and angry. Ā But society has evolved already. Their time is over. Be optimistic but don't be complacent. They're funnelling billions into their propaganda (so many hate groups in the UK are funded by US evangelical groups with bottomless pits of money) and as you can see above, it's paying off.. I've slowly watched Stonewall be pilloried the last few months from all sides and it's coming to a head now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 Just now, Kim said: Be optimistic but don't be complacent. They're funnelling billions into their propaganda (so many hate groups in the UK are funded by US evangelical groups with bottomless pits of money) and as you can see above, it's paying off.. I've slowly watched Stonewall be pilloried the last few months from all sides and it's coming to a head now. Yes Stonewall was trending the other day and I read the tweets and I was appalled. Of course an LGTB group is going to defend our trans members!!!! What did those bigots expect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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karbatal Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 3 hours ago, LSD said: Ā Guat a surprice!Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 When are people gonna start getting ANGRY about this shit? Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 1 hour ago, Kim said: When are people gonna start getting ANGRY about this shit? Ā They're too busy being FLOODED by the recent trade agreement with Lichtenstein and Iceland and Norway. Twitter was a complete celebration today. Are people aware that those three countries population amounts to a London neighborhood? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 2 hours ago, karbatal said: They're too busy being FLOODED by the recent trade agreement with Lichtenstein and Iceland and Norway. Twitter was a complete celebration today. Are people aware that those three countries population amounts to a London neighborhood? Yeah I saw that nonsense, but as Norway have already confirmed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzy Jan Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 10 hours ago, Kim said: When are people gonna start getting ANGRY about this shit? Ā Corruption and the mega rich looking after each other while breaking rules is Ā disgraceful. Ā With so much of the press now being Murdoch ruled, it not only hardly gets reported but is completely accepted. Ā People would of been furious about this 30 years ago. Now, they just shrug.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 1 hour ago, Jazzy Jan said: Corruption and the mega rich looking after each other while breaking rules is Ā disgraceful. Ā With so much of the press now being Murdoch ruled, it not only hardly gets reported but is completely accepted. Ā People would of been furious about this 30 years ago. Now, they just shrug.Ā They are just happy it's not a "communist leftist tree hugger pronoun trans defender pro European".Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzy Jan Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 29 minutes ago, karbatal said: They are just happy it's not a "communist leftist tree hugger pronoun trans defender pro European".Ā Yes. I know so many like that. They are also in general heartless, whiny and privileged. Ā Example - We are Lockdown in Melbourne for at least 2 weeksĀ and people who wonāt be earning wages orĀ have been stood down will be getting a payment from the government. Ā SoĀ they should be as they have no way of earning any income during the lockdown.Ā Ā Ā Had to listen to one of these types of people that you mentioned above, about how unfair it was that her taxes went towards that and she should also get paid if bludgers were getting handouts.Ā Ā When I replied to her that we wereĀ still working and getting a wage during Lockdown so did not need a payment,Ā Ā she still sulked and went on about the socialist left etc. Ā WhyĀ are these ultra right wing people so selfish and heartless. Ā She hates so called ā leftiesĀ and greeniesā Ā and always excuses the big corporations etc.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 13 minutes ago, Jazzy Jan said: Yes. I know so many like that. They are also in general heartless, whiny and privileged. Ā Example - We are Lockdown in Melbourne for at least 2 weeksĀ and people who wonāt be earning wages orĀ have been stood down will be getting a payment from the government. Ā SoĀ they should be as they have no way of earning any income during the lockdown.Ā Ā Ā Had to listen to one of these types of people that you mentioned above, about how unfair it was that her taxes went towards that and she should also get paid if bludgers were getting handouts.Ā Ā When I replied to her that we wereĀ still working and getting a wage during Lockdown so did not need a payment,Ā Ā she still sulked and went on about the socialist left etc. Ā WhyĀ are these ultra right wing people so selfish and heartless. Ā She hates so called ā leftiesĀ and greeniesā Ā and always excuses the big corporations etc.Ā It is happening in so many countries exactly the same.Ā It is sad because meanwhile those mega rich are getting richer. Or getting places in the House of Lords... And some people think the poors are the leeches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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