Brexit / British politics thread 🤡

[Jazzy Jan]

12 minutes ago, Kim said:

Terrifying having such incompetents running the country - and so many people needlessly dead.

Notable by their absence in his evidence are two main players Gove and Sunak who're apparently Murdoch's favourites to replace the fat oaf.

It is terrifying indeed. Having fools who crave power in charge is dangerous. Seen it in the workplace to know how damaging it is. Having leaders in charge of countries who are so incompetent, arrogant and stupid is catastrophic and so damaging to everyone. 
 

The Murdoch press should take a lot of the blame. They gleefully pick and choose who to endorse to suit their own selfish agenda. Then manipulate the way people are told information.  

[karbatal]

Omg that account of horrifying psychopath decisions told by Cummings! 

I don't know where to start. 

Just this alone... "Cummings also said it was suggested chief medical officer Professor Chris Whitty should inject Johnson with the virus on live TV to show it was nothing to be scared of"

[karbatal]

How could we as society in only 15 years turn so stupid? This is happening everywhere! 

This would be the biggest scandal. People would be outraged. 

But look at USA, where those who instigated the attack to the white house are comfortable. 

Look at Spain where the stupid major of Madrid kept all open amidst deaths and she's reelected with the biggest majority.

Look at Sweden, where they openly followed the herd immunity path and thousands died. 

This is so scary! We've turned a complete bunch of stupid population.

[karbatal]

9 hours ago, Jazzy Jan said:

It is terrifying indeed. Having fools who crave power in charge is dangerous. Seen it in the workplace to know how damaging it is. Having leaders in charge of countries who are so incompetent, arrogant and stupid is catastrophic and so damaging to everyone. 
 

The Murdoch press should take a lot of the blame. They gleefully pick and choose who to endorse to suit their own selfish agenda. Then manipulate the way people are told information.  

Only some years ago it didn't matter who told the info. People knew an scandal and they reacted. 

Nowadays it's as if something is told by the "leftist press" it means it's not valid. This is the Fox News syndrome we watched unfold in the USA and now it's everywhere.

[karbatal]

And it's a sociological phenomenon affecting other issues too. Just look at the Instagram thread: things that would be laughed at from other people are applauded there because "it's our team". As if our team had the right to do all. 

[cardiganstarlet]

I find it interesting that someone like Cummings who helped gaslight a nation to achieve Brexit is now doing the same to his former ‘friends’. Unsurprising when they’re all such bottom feeders.

He’ll obviously do and say anything to complete an agenda.

Not that I believe a word Boris says either. I don’t think any of them are going anywhere though sadly.

[Jazzy Jan]

21 hours ago, karbatal said:

Only some years ago it didn't matter who told the info. People knew an scandal and they reacted. 

Nowadays it's as if something is told by the "leftist press" it means it's not valid. This is the Fox News syndrome we watched unfold in the USA and now it's everywhere.

So sadly true. The damage Murdoch has made with ultra right wing reporting now mainstream and accepted is horrifying and so insidious too.  They expertly know the triggers to inflame people and don’t care if it is factual to their stories or for the damage they do. 

[Jazzy Jan]

Dominic Cummings revelations about Boris Johnson are now getting a lot of media attention worldwide. Have seen major reports of it in Australia a lot now. Boris does not deny the shocking allegations and instead just vaguely waffles on about other things.  He is an absolute embarrassment to the UK.  

[Kim]

Oh I'm so shocked at this news just HAPPENING to come out this weekend...

[Suedehead]

 

[Jazzy Jan]

11 hours ago, Kim said:

Oh I'm so shocked at this news just HAPPENING to come out this weekend...

 

7 hours ago, Suedehead said:

 

This is one of the oldest tricks in the book. Try to deflect and bury bad news by talking about frivolous so called feel good big events. Boris is a lying inept heartless idiot only interested in himself and the right wing media not only let him get away with it, they actively protect him. Just disgusting. 

[Kim]

9 hours ago, Jazzy Jan said:

This is one of the oldest tricks in the book. Try to deflect and bury bad news by talking about frivolous so called feel good big events. Boris is a lying inept heartless idiot only interested in himself and the right wing media not only let him get away with it, they actively protect him. Just disgusting. 

He didn't even need to go to the trouble of this particular dead cat.

Everything Cummings said has been forgotten already. In fact I think Boris' approval rating has actually gone UP (in England) 

[Jazzy Jan]

1 minute ago, Kim said:

He didn't even need to go to the trouble of this particular dead cat.

Everything Cummings said has been forgotten already. In fact I think Boris' approval rating has actually gone UP (in England) 

Kim, that sickens me. I now understand the reasons people have become disillusioned with the opposition ( thanks to the UK people that contribute to this thread ) but I still find anyone liking and supporting Boris insane and morally bankrupt. It is like watching a horror play.
 

At least many Americans understood and were disgusted by Trump. Where is the outrage over Boris’s callous disregard to victims and complete inept performance. He does not even DENY what Cummings said. Just bumbles along and people shrug it iff. Utterly terrifying to be honest. Imagine him leading the UK in a war. 

 

 

[Kim]

2 minutes ago, Jazzy Jan said:

Kim, that sickens me. I now understand the reasons people have become disillusioned with the opposition ( thanks to the UK people that contribute to this thread ) but I still find anyone liking and supporting Boris insane and morally bankrupt. It is like watching a horror play.
 

At least many Americans understood and were disgusted by Trump. Where is the outrage over Boris’s callous disregard to victims and complete inept performance. He does not even DENY what Cummings said. Just bumbles along and people shrug it iff. Utterly terrifying to be honest. Imagine him leading the UK in a war. 

A compliant supine media and zero opposition are a deadly combo. If there's no one there to hold you to account then...

At least the US has some big media outlets not afraid to call out what was happening.

Journalist Peter Oborne (an avowed Conservative but anti this new Tory regime) confirmed that BBC executives told him it’s wrong to expose lies told by a British prime minister because it 'undermines trust in British politics'. 

It's tinpot stuff.

[Kim]

Oh and to the homos in here who don't think anything ever affects them under this new regime, the anti trans sentiment allowed to take hold over the last couple of years is coming for you soon too, as it always does...

 

[karbatal]

I expect that the LGTB community is next in this reactionary crusade in most countries. Women and immigrants have already been targeted. 

[Kim]

32 minutes ago, karbatal said:

I expect that the LGTB community is next in this reactionary crusade in most countries. Women and immigrants have already been targeted. 

I'm already starting to see the old gay=paedo trope take hold with the same groups demonising trans people under the guise of advocating for 'women's rights'.

So fucking insidious.

 

[karbatal]

21 minutes ago, Kim said:

I'm already starting to see the old gay=paedo trope take hold with the same groups demonising trans people under the guise of advocating for 'women's rights'.

So fucking insidious.

 

And our community was lucky that the pandemic started before pride. If not, be sure we would be to blame, as women have been blamed in Spain since 8 March 2020. 

But I'm optimistic. The time of the white straight Christian ruling all is over. They feel cornered and angry.  But society has evolved already. Their time is over.

[Kim]

11 minutes ago, karbatal said:

But I'm optimistic. The time of the white straight Christian ruling all is over. They feel cornered and angry.  But society has evolved already. Their time is over.

Be optimistic but don't be complacent. They're funnelling billions into their propaganda (so many hate groups in the UK are funded by US evangelical groups with bottomless pits of money) and as you can see above, it's paying off..

I've slowly watched Stonewall be pilloried the last few months from all sides and it's coming to a head now.

[karbatal]

Just now, Kim said:

Be optimistic but don't be complacent. They're funnelling billions into their propaganda (so many hate groups in the UK are funded by US evangelical groups with bottomless pits of money) and as you can see above, it's paying off..

I've slowly watched Stonewall be pilloried the last few months from all sides and it's coming to a head now.

Yes Stonewall was trending the other day and I read the tweets and I was appalled. Of course an LGTB group is going to defend our trans members!!!! What did those bigots expect?

[LSD]

 

[elijah]

2 hours ago, LSD said:

 

[karbatal]

3 hours ago, LSD said:

 

Guat a surprice! 

[Kim]

When are people gonna start getting ANGRY about this shit?

 

[karbatal]

1 hour ago, Kim said:

When are people gonna start getting ANGRY about this shit?

 

They're too busy being FLOODED by the recent trade agreement with Lichtenstein and Iceland and Norway. Twitter was a complete celebration today. Are people aware that those three countries population amounts to a London neighborhood?

[Kim]

2 hours ago, karbatal said:

They're too busy being FLOODED by the recent trade agreement with Lichtenstein and Iceland and Norway. Twitter was a complete celebration today. Are people aware that those three countries population amounts to a London neighborhood?

Yeah I saw that nonsense, but as Norway have already confirmed...

[Jazzy Jan]

10 hours ago, Kim said:

When are people gonna start getting ANGRY about this shit?

 

Corruption and the mega rich looking after each other while breaking rules is  disgraceful.  With so much of the press now being Murdoch ruled, it not only hardly gets reported but is completely accepted.  People would of been furious about this 30 years ago. Now, they just shrug. 

[karbatal]

1 hour ago, Jazzy Jan said:

Corruption and the mega rich looking after each other while breaking rules is  disgraceful.  With so much of the press now being Murdoch ruled, it not only hardly gets reported but is completely accepted.  People would of been furious about this 30 years ago. Now, they just shrug. 

They are just happy it's not a "communist leftist tree hugger pronoun trans defender pro European". 

[Jazzy Jan]

29 minutes ago, karbatal said:

They are just happy it's not a "communist leftist tree hugger pronoun trans defender pro European". 

Yes. I know so many like that. They are also in general heartless, whiny and privileged.  Example - We are Lockdown in Melbourne for at least 2 weeks and people who won’t be earning wages or have been stood down will be getting a payment from the government.  So they should be as they have no way of earning any income during the lockdown. 
 

 Had to listen to one of these types of people that you mentioned above, about how unfair it was that her taxes went towards that and she should also get paid if bludgers were getting handouts.  When I replied to her that we were still working and getting a wage during Lockdown so did not need a payment,  she still sulked and went on about the socialist left etc.  Why are these ultra right wing people so selfish and heartless.  She hates so called “ lefties and greenies”  and always excuses the big corporations etc. 

[karbatal]

13 minutes ago, Jazzy Jan said:

Yes. I know so many like that. They are also in general heartless, whiny and privileged.  Example - We are Lockdown in Melbourne for at least 2 weeks and people who won’t be earning wages or have been stood down will be getting a payment from the government.  So they should be as they have no way of earning any income during the lockdown. 
 

 Had to listen to one of these types of people that you mentioned above, about how unfair it was that her taxes went towards that and she should also get paid if bludgers were getting handouts.  When I replied to her that we were still working and getting a wage during Lockdown so did not need a payment,  she still sulked and went on about the socialist left etc.  Why are these ultra right wing people so selfish and heartless.  She hates so called “ lefties and greenies”  and always excuses the big corporations etc. 

It is happening in so many countries exactly the same. 

It is sad because meanwhile those mega rich are getting richer. Or getting places in the House of Lords... And some people think the poors are the leeches