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Hillary was what a majority of us were prior to Election Day in 2016:

Cocky and over confident. 

Because a majority of us couldn’t possibly imagine that a failed businessman and 3rd rate reality televion Star who pandered to the underbelly of American society could ever become president. 

You can’t fault her for that. Anyone going up against Donald Trump would’ve probably been the same way. But Hillary wasn’t exactly anyone. She had perceptions of her baked in. Just as he did. The biggest difference is that HIS supporters were rabidly loyalty and inspired by her. And he had more of them. And they came out in droves. 

Lets remember he only win by about 80,000 votes between two states. Mine (Michigan) being one of them. And let’s also remember ALL three of those states (MI, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania) voted in democratic senators and governors in 2018. These are not red states. They’re very pragmatic, fluid states that bend with the political winds. 

The rust belt was willing to give Trump a chance. Depending on who the Dems put up in 2020, I’m not so sure these states are willing to do so again. Even despite a good economy. 

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Beto O'Rourke confirms he will announce a 2020 presidential bid, TV station says
The Texas Democratic politician has been hinting at a 2020 run in the past few months. O'Rourke told Vanity Fair on Wednesday that he was "born" to run and "I think I'd be good at it." He later confirmed his intention to run with a local Texas TV station, KTSM
 
So excited he will announce he is running. I fully support him.

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Beto, Biden about to run. FINALLY! Two people I could DEF see demolishing Trump. I like Pete too but think it may be too soon. All the others=meh and kind of garbage. Really want a woman for President but am just NOT feeling any of the ones running at all (maybe Harris for VP or AG at the min.). If it wasn't for the new credible info about how dreadful she is/was behind the scenes I think Amy also had somewhat of shot. No more.

If Biden gets the nom. I do NOT want the AOC and other far far left Bernie-esque moaning/groaning and f'king everything up like they did in '16! Biden may not be ideal and is old af but unlike Hillary he is beloved by many and def. knows how to connect w/ people. Long as he doesn't royally fuq up he absolutely is the one who'd win back the Rust Belt and even other random new states. Beyond clear now (esp. after the '18 midterms) the rust bust simply rolled the dice w/ this putz and loathed HRC. ALL the signs were there for many months.I think it was a fluke perfect storm against the Dem that one year. Since the midterms they're easily dark purple/blue w/ the right candidate- long as they somehow stay center left. 

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But Beto O'Rourke lost to Ted Cruz. I read it was a close loss, but loss nevertheless and I wonder if he could take down Dump.

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I think Biden/Orourke ticket would be great 

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14 hours ago, elijah said:

But Beto O'Rourke lost to Ted Cruz. I read it was a close loss, but loss nevertheless and I wonder if he could take down Dump.

True, but that was in Texas. The fact that he was even close was huge.

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