elijah Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Just now, cocolattee said: RHT True Blue was great though Now imagine 2 hours of RHT True Blues. No, thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Oooooh when I saw that pic posted here I thought "as if Madonna is going to be inspired by old Portuguese musicians" and then... BAM!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zephyralexxx Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 41 minutes ago, elijah said: Now imagine 2 hours of RHT True Blues. No, thank you Exactly... that would be really boring... or something like Tears of a clown... Hope she forgot about the stand up comedy thing. Only 100 fans are interested in these kind of things from Madonna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijah Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, zephyralexxx said: Exactly... that would be really boring... or something like Tears of a clown... Hope she forgot about the stand up comedy thing. Only 100 fans are interested in these kind of things from Madonna. yes, I m yet to hear TOAC being referred to as her best show or even praised. I m sure less than 100 fans are interested in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apples388 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 52 minutes ago, elijah said: Madonna, if you are reading: remember, you are known for your spectacle tours, not for sitting around like Mariah or Slob. So we expect numbers like Express Yourself 90 etc. Slowing down for a bit between numbers is ok (and human). But no-one is there for a laid back performance. Get in shape and do the numbers like GGW MDNA tours. She's not a performing monkey put on this earth to sing songs and dance for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 wtf has happened to this thread? (btw - TOAC was only intended as a special treat for fans, and the 1000 fans that were actually there loved every minute of it.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lolo Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 10 hours ago, Nikki said: even though im not a big klein fan (since he worked with youknowwho, a lot of his work is repetitive) but im glad they're still friends I don’t know why everyone is so obsessed with Steven Klein working with M. He’s done amazing things with her but I’m really bored with this highly artificial cold and detached aesthetic. I can’t help to think ‚seen it all before‘ with his style. I think it reaks of world weariness. Sure, in this day and age it’s hard to come up with something really new, but I for one don’t need this overwrought aesthetic anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim34 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 2 hours ago, mtzlplk said: It's looking more like a May release... It is just right... March is too early and summer is too late... that's what I think. With a cool upbeat single in april. Perfect for spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijah Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, Suedey said: She's not a performing monkey put on this earth to sing songs and dance for you. I never said she was. I m just saying what I would like from the new show. And I am really sure that is what the vast majority of the public would be interested in. A sit down Madonna tour is hard to imagine as being successful and I suppose she wants to be successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevo208 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 1 minute ago, elijah said: I never said she was. I m just saying what I would like from the new show. And I am really sure that is what the vast majority of the public would be interested in. A sit down Madonna tour is hard to imagine as being successful and I suppose she wants to be successful. I know she's Madonna but she's also a 60 year old woman. I think we need to be realistic with expectations of hi energy, sweaty dance routines here. She needs to adapt and so do we. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijah Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, stevo208 said: I know she's Madonna but she's also a 60 year old woman. I think we need to be realistic with expectations of hi energy, sweaty dance routines here. She needs to adapt and so do we. True. I hope she ll act like an olympian as she has till recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocolattee Posted January 20, 2019 Author Share Posted January 20, 2019 I love the high energy dance numbers and know she will keep delievering those, but its nice to see her dig out the forgotten old hits especially since we all know how she feels about the original arrangements... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocolattee Posted January 20, 2019 Author Share Posted January 20, 2019 I’d die for an acoustic performance of songs like Oh father, The look of love, I’ll remember etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzy Jan Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 40 minutes ago, Paul said: wtf has happened to this thread? (btw - TOAC was only intended as a special treat for fans, and the 1000 fans that were actually there loved every minute of it.) TOAC in Melbourne was amazing. For the people that were there, it was a unique and incredible show. Something entirely different done as a gift to Australian fans for not touring for so long. Another show that is now getting trashed that was cherished and loved at the time. For people expecting Madonna to be as energetic as tours done years ago, I hope you all remember she is 60. She will dance and perform beautifully as Rebel Heart proved but those demanding and expecting full on difficult routines without taking into account her age, you are being too picky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apples388 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Personally speaking, I'm fed up of some misogynistic gay men who impose their body dysmorphic standards on their female icons as well. If Madonna wants to do a sit down tour then she can do whatever the fuck she wants. She didn't pander to her teenage Madonna wannabe fans in the '80s when she changed her looks and sang adult themed pop songs; she didn't pander to middle America in the '90s when she supported gay men and expressed her sexuality, and I don't see why she has to pander to a small portion of her fanabse now who mythologise and fetishise her to such an extreme to as to actually dehumanise her, holding up pictures and videos of what she was like 20 or 30 years ago and expect her to look, sound and move in the same way. Madonna has never lived in the past, and she won't now. So, @elijah I suggest you take your 'advice' to Madonna and shove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edivad Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 22 minutes ago, stevo208 said: I know she's Madonna but she's also a 60 year old woman. I think we need to be realistic with expectations of hi energy, sweaty dance routines here. She needs to adapt and so do we. During DWT She was 43, no Big dance routines in general, It was quite a "quiet" show, yet It was artsy, heartfelt and sung beautifully. She could head that direction for the next tour, Just replace the country vibe with the portuguese one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andra Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 I always thought that if there is someone who could do it even in their 60's, it would be Madonna. I'm used to spectacles from her, sit down acoustics are only for when she takes a small break. What I know is that she's never boring, so I trust her. I'm ready for something awesome and different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijah Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, Suedey said: Personally speaking, I'm fed up of some misogynistic gay men who impose their body dysmorphic standards on their female icons as well. If Madonna wants to do a sit down tour then she can do whatever the fuck she wants. She didn't pander to her teenage Madonna wannabe fans in the '80s when she changed her looks and sang adult themed pop songs; she didn't pander to middle America in the '90s when she supported gay men and expressed her sexuality, and I don't see why she has to pander to a small portion of her fanabse now who mythologise and fetishise her to such an extreme to as to actually dehumanise her, holding up pictures and videos of what she was like 20 or 30 years ago and expect her to look, sound and move in the same way. Madonna has never lived in the past, and she won't now. So, @elijah I suggest you take your 'advice' to Madonna and shove it. Thank you for summarising what everyone knows. Now follow your advice and shove it. I WILL state my opinion and it is that a sit down tour would majorly backfire. Mark my words (if she at all does a sit down tour). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzy Jan Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 28 minutes ago, Andra said: I always thought that if there is someone who could do it even in their 60's, it would be Madonna. I'm used to spectacles from her, sit down acoustics are only for when she takes a small break. What I know is that she's never boring, so I trust her. I'm ready for something awesome and different. Andra, I bet she will still have spectacles in her shows. She is a born entertainer and a born dancer. However, I don't expect her to have the same amount of non stop dancing as earlier shows in her career. Rebel Heart still had a lot of energetic numbers to enjoy. Heart-break city - moving up and down those stairs with dancer's grace and artistry, Holy Water - climbing up poles better than girls a quarter of her age, the solo wonderful and joyful version of Like a Virgin - featuring 80's style dancing. Body Shop had a great fun routine with dancing. Living for love. The list goes on. I just don't think it is fair for people to expect full on routines though like MDNA, Blonde Ambition etc. That is the point many are making. Some seem to be expecting her to be in the "same shape" or be as fit and skilled at dancing as she was when much younger. That is the part that is hard to read. It is like great sportsmen and women - tennis, athletes, ice-skaters, ballet dancers etc. They are not expected to have the same energy and skill as their younger selves at their peak. I feel far too many Madonna fans are expecting that from her at 60 and they are already setting themselves up for unrealistic performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 2 hours ago, cocolattee said: so the fact that she mentioned rehearsing along with that picture means that Portuguese guitarra will be the new ukulele for old hits reinvention on tour? Well, ukulele itself have a Portuguese origin, so it makes sense for the Portuguese guitar to be Madonna's next new instrument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KalamazooJay Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 The ones in here demanding Madonna put on another strenuous choreographed show at 60 years are mind boggling delusional. The woman has defied countless obstacles in her career, but she can’t defy age. Regardless of how well you take care of yourself, your body fucking changes as you get older - especially after 60. She’d be stupid to do anything close to MDNA or S&S and she obviously understands this. It’s stupid and ignorant fans that don’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocolattee Posted January 20, 2019 Author Share Posted January 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, Rock said: Well, ukulele itself have a Portuguese origin, so it makes sense for the Portuguese guitar to be Madonna's next new instrument. and it will bring a brand new latin flavor to her performances, I can't wait <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijah Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, KalamazooJay said: The ones in here demanding Madonna put on another strenuous choreographed show at 60 years are mind boggling delusional. The woman has defied countless obstacles in her career, but she can’t defy age. Regardless of how well you take care of yourself, your body fucking changes as you get older - especially after 60. She’d be stupid to do anything close to MDNA or S&S and she obviously understands this. It’s stupid and ignorant fans that don’t. I always felt its impossible to do MDNA choreography at 54. Yet she did it. I m not saying she has to fill her whole tour with EY performances. I know its impossible. I m saying that if it will be a sit down concert only with no choreography on par at least with RHT I think many more would pass that concert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-queen Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Paul said: wtf has happened to this thread? (btw - TOAC was only intended as a special treat for fans, and the 1000 fans that were actually there loved every minute of it.) I remember watching a Periscope feed and being captivated. Good times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 @cocolattee Where did you originally find the picture that Madonna posted on her Instagram? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocolattee Posted January 20, 2019 Author Share Posted January 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Rock said: @cocolattee Where did you originally find the picture that Madonna posted on her Instagram? I googled portuguese fado singer or stg like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andra Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 28 minutes ago, Jazzy Jan said: Andra, I bet she will still have spectacles in her shows. She is a born entertainer and a born dancer. However, I don't expect her to have the same amount of non stop dancing as earlier shows in her career. Rebel Heart still had a lot of energetic numbers to enjoy. Heart-break city - moving up and down those stairs with dancer's grace and artistry, Holy Water - climbing up poles better than girls a quarter of her age, the solo wonderful and joyful version of Like a Virgin - featuring 80's style dancing. Body Shop had a great fun routine with dancing. Living for love. The list goes on. I just don't think it is fair for people to expect full on routines though like MDNA, Blonde Ambition etc. That is the point many are making. Some seem to be expecting her to be in the "same shape" or be as fit and skilled at dancing as she was when much younger. That is the part that is hard to read. It is like great sportsmen and women - tennis, athletes, ice-skaters, ballet dancers etc. They are not expected to have the same energy and skill as their younger selves at their peak. I feel far too many Madonna fans are expecting that from her at 60 and they are already setting themselves up for unrealistic performances. If she does a Rebel Heart energy type of show I'll be super happy. I know it's a bit delusional to expect MDNA, BA numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzy Jan Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Just now, Andra said: If she does a Rebel Heart energy type of show I'll be super happy. I know it's a bit delusional to expect MDNA, BA numbers. I am sure she will wow us completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apples388 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Andra said: I always thought that if there is someone who could do it even in their 60's, it would be Madonna. I'm used to spectacles from her, sit down acoustics are only for when she takes a small break. What I know is that she's never boring, so I trust her. I'm ready for something awesome and different. Of course her show will be a spectacle and of course she won't sit down for 2 hours ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andra Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, Jazzy Jan said: I am sure she will wow us completely. Yes! 2 minutes ago, Suedey said: Of course her show will be a spectacle and of course she won't sit down for 2 hours ... I know I'll be right there shaking in the corner with you, for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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