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Brazil: Far-right candidate Jair Bolsonaro wins presidential election

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On 10/30/2018 at 1:07 AM, Humberto77rj said:

I am so, so afraid. I live in Rio de Janeiro, am an actor and writer and he is about to take down the Ministry of Culture. I'm also gay and there has been lot's of us already being beaten on the streets.

 I don't want to leave my house. I'm scared, so scared. Thinking of going to Urugay, Portugal or France. My mom and I, we cannot stay here. This really might be the end of an era of people feeling proud of who they are. 

I'm so sorry to hear this. Leave if you must. Don't feel you need to stay there to "fight for your own country" or any of that bullshit. Your country let you down. Your safety comes first.

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On 10/29/2018 at 8:23 PM, Jazzy Jan said:

Would like to also read the views of our members from Brazil on this thread.  Always important to read the views and reactions of people in the country itself that is being discussed. 

It is the worst possible situation ever. I feel so depressed that i can’t even talk about it. Have you ever fear for your life? This is how we LGBTQ+ are feeling here with this new tyrannical theocratic regime. Our only hope is that the world be aware that Brazil has fallen into the hands of fascism and we are in grave danger.

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5 hours ago, Nessie said:

It is the worst possible situation ever. I feel so depressed that i can’t even talk about it. Have you ever fear for your life? This is how we LGBTQ+ are feeling here with this new tyrannical theocratic regime. Our only hope is that the world be aware that Brazil has fallen into the hands of fascism and we are in grave danger.

We disagreed  many times over the years, @Nessie but I hope you stay safe. Be careful ! 

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5 hours ago, Nessie said:

It is the worst possible situation ever. I feel so depressed that i can’t even talk about it. Have you ever fear for your life? This is how we LGBTQ+ are feeling here with this new tyrannical theocratic regime. Our only hope is that the world be aware that Brazil has fallen into the hands of fascism and we are in grave danger.

So sorry Nessie. Dreadful that you are feeling like this in your own country due to this frightening fascist regime.  So shocking that this government has got in power in Brazil.  

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So sorry to hear this from our fellow Brazilian membeed. Lets hope his ideas are not translated into reality.

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On 11/7/2018 at 2:50 PM, runa said:

We disagreed  many times over the years, @Nessie but I hope you stay safe. Be careful ! 

Thank you @runa. Its really depressing how things are deteriorating very fast here. I have even considered to move out of this country, but for now i will stay and see what happens when he officially assumes the presidency in January. We can only hope that all his strong words against minorities are just rethorical, but what worries me the most is the people that are composing his government, he is puting in charge a mix of military personal and a lot of religous fundamentalists, its a recipe of a disaster...

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On 11/7/2018 at 3:00 PM, Jazzy Jan said:

So sorry Nessie. Dreadful that you are feeling like this in your own country due to this frightening fascist regime.  So shocking that this government has got in power in Brazil.  

@Jazzy Jan its a situation we could never have imagine just a few years ago. Its scary how society can plunge to fascism that quickly and makes me wonder if it has always been there... just waiting for the right time to surface. It seems this is some kind of a world fenomenon happening, people are in search of a saviour and looking for enemies everywhere.

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8 minutes ago, Nessie said:

Thank you @runa. Its really depressing how things are deteriorating very fast here. I have even considered to move out of this country, but for now i will stay and see what happens when he officially assumes the presidency in January. We can only hope that all his strong words against minorities are just rethorical, but what worries me the most is the people that are composing his government, he is puting in charge a mix of military personal and a lot of religous fundamentalists, its a recipe of a disaster...

The writting is on the wall, it's definitely gonna be a dictatorship..

This is a dream of many years from the powers that be. Brazil is too rich, and the people too ignorant.

Every single country that has riches, like oil and metals, gets treated badly because of it. Was just a matter of time. The bad management of PT was the setting piece for an elected dictator to come along. I'm brazilian so I'm very much afraid.. I can't just go live in another country since my whole life is here.

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22 hours ago, Je5u5 said:

So sorry to hear this from our fellow Brazilian membeed. Lets hope his ideas are not translated into reality.

 

We can only hope that it's just rhetorical... but even if he doesn't drag our civil rights through the mud like he has said many times over, the damage has already been done because many people are feeling empowered to openly discriminate minorities...

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1 hour ago, Dany Targaryen said:

The writting is on the wall, it's definitely gonna be a dictatorship..

This is a dream of many years from the powers that be. Brazil is too rich, and the people too ignorant.

Every single country that has riches, like oil and metals, gets treated badly because of it. Was just a matter of time. The bad management of PT was the setting piece for an elected dictator to come along. I'm brazilian so I'm very much afraid.. I can't just go live in another country since my whole life is here.

I have a feeling that this is not just a coincidence...

The embryo of this brazilian fascist movement come from June 2013 massive protests, at that very point people took the streets to demonstrate against the political system headed by the left party. The right have hijacked that movement and gradually radicalized the people in hope to win the 2014 ellection, but that effort didn't work as expected and the left won again the presidency that year, so the right intensified even more the propaganda against the left by using a massive scandal of corruption to undermine the government. The president at that time Dilma Rousseff was impeached and the leader of the left workers' party Lula is jailed. This painful process paved the way of the rise of the far-right.

Besides those internal circunstances, the crisis on Venezuela have massively intensified. Trump was ellected on the US and the threat of war is looming South America right now. It can't be just coincidence that Jair Bolsonaro won the presidency with the approval hand of Steve Bannon, the man behind the Trump election. The Trump administration have made some kind of a deal with the brazilian far-right to put in place a military subservient government in Brazil, because they have already foreseen a very likely intervention on Venezuela to remove the dictator Nicolas Maduro from power, and also they want to break Brazil from the BRICS, undermining China and Russia from the global geopolitical sphere.

 


 

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1 hour ago, Nessie said:

@Jazzy Jan its a situation we could never have imagine just a few years ago. Its scary how society can plunge to fascism that quickly and makes me wonder if it has always been there... just waiting for the right time to surface. It seems this is some kind of a world fenomenon happening, people are in search of a saviour and looking for enemies everywhere.

Nessie,  it is so dreadful.  I can only imagine how you would be feeling and feel so sorry that you are going through this in Brazil.  Fascism creeps up deadly and slowly without people realizing properly and fascists know how to manipulate people and society. .  Then when fascism really shows it's true ugly side, it is so quick with the gaining of power and many people wish they had seen it earlier for what it was and what it was leading to. . I hope the people in Brazil will be able to counteract and defeat this.  

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1 hour ago, Nessie said:

I have a feeling that this is not just a coincidence...

The embryo of this brazilian fascist movement come from June 2013 massive protests, at that very point people took the streets to demonstrate against the political system headed by the left party. The right have hijacked that movement and gradually radicalized the people in hope to win the 2014 ellection, but that effort didn't work as expected and the left won again the presidency that year, so the right intensified even more the propaganda against the left by using a massive scandal of corruption to undermine the government. The president at that time Dilma Rousseff was impeached and the leader of the left workers' party Lula is jailed. This painful process paved the way of the rise of the far-right.

Besides those internal circunstances, the crisis on Venezuela have massively intensified. Trump was ellected on the US and the threat of war is looming South America right now. It can't be just coincidence that Jair Bolsonaro won the presidency with the approval hand of Steve Bannon, the man behind the Trump election. The Trump administration have made some kind of a deal with the brazilian far-right to put in place a military subservient government in Brazil, because they have already foreseen a very likely intervention on Venezuela to remove the dictator Nicolas Maduro from power, and also they want to break Brazil from the BRICS, undermining China and Russia from the global geopolitical sphere.

 



 

You said it so eloquently. You're absolutely right. This is not a coincidence.

I just wish I could leave the country, but my family is here, my everything is here. I just hope it isn't as bad as we're thinking in the end.

I painfully voted for Haddad, not because I like the left, but out of desperation..now more than ever people need to push back, like north americans are doing to trump. We can't let this Bolsonaro figure do whatever he wants..

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2 hours ago, Dany Targaryen said:

The writting is on the wall, it's definitely gonna be a dictatorship..

This is a dream of many years from the powers that be. Brazil is too rich, and the people too ignorant.

Every single country that has riches, like oil and metals, gets treated badly because of it. Was just a matter of time. The bad management of PT was the setting piece for an elected dictator to come along. I'm brazilian so I'm very much afraid.. I can't just go live in another country since my whole life is here.

Dany Targaryen,  So sad to read how afraid you are with this government gaining power. 

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