karbatal Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 So today, after a motion of censure stupid corrupt extreme conservative Rajoy is finally GONE and socialist Pedro Sanchez is our new president!!!!! Let's hope Sanchez can make decisions, as his only support are leftist Podemos (good!!!!) but selfish separatists who are always messing around and the main reasons why out of fear people are still supporting Rajoy.ย If we're lucky maybe now the Catalonia mess can finally be solved politically and Spain is again a modern country with fresh ideas as we were untill 2010.ย ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promise to try Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 and welcome new corrupts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promise to try Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 22 hours ago, karbatal said: Let's hope Sanchez can make decisions, as his only support are leftist Podemos (good!!!!) but selfish separatists who are always messing around and the main reasons why out of fear people are still supporting Rajoy. sanchez will have to negotiate a lot, especially with podemos, but...I think both pedro and pablo, podemosยดl eader,ย have huge egos, and I hope they leave their arrogance at home to solve the problems. and the separatists are not always messing around, to have a diferent opinion itยดs not to be messing around. They have different perspectives. For example, from catalonia they will be asking for help to solve the situation they have, with politicians in jail, or with the famous 155 in.I hope they all act wiselly and not as other politicals parties want. It seems itยดs impossible to do it worse than the PP has done it, well, it is possible.But itยดs also possible to do it better.and a legal autodetermination right.itยดs not impossible either.You may not agree with it as a huge problem, well, for me itยดs the key to start solving it! and about the basque separatists, well, if they want their vote, itsยดsimple: ETA prisoners have to be in jails close to the basque country, and there has to be a negotiation about a legal autodetermination right. and about the PNV, they are all the time doing the same: the fucking estatuto, itยดs still not finished by the spanish government ( itยดs from 1980 and this regional laws has some laws to be directed from the basque country, and still there are a lot of them missing), all the spanish governments have decided to ignore the regional law.I know that the spanish people think that PNV itยดs always taking money for the basque country, but everything is related to that law.If Sanchez decides to finally give to the regional parlament what legally is supposed to be here, PNV will be quiet. so yes, Iยดm happy because PP is out, but remember that Ciudadans itยดs even more extremist, they scare me. The new ones have a lot of work to do, and, donยดt forget it, they have corruption too...good luck to us!!!we will need it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GOD Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 I need more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted June 2, 2018 Author Share Posted June 2, 2018 28 minutes ago, GOD said: I need more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted June 2, 2018 Author Share Posted June 2, 2018 5 hours ago, promise to try said: sanchez will have to negotiate a lot, especially with podemos, but...I think both pedro and pablo, podemosยดl eader,ย have huge egos, and I hope they leave their arrogance at home to solve the problems. and the separatists are not always messing around, to have a diferent opinion itยดs not to be messing around. They have different perspectives. For example, from catalonia they will be asking for help to solve the situation they have, with politicians in jail, or with the famous 155 in.I hope they all act wiselly and not as other politicals parties want. It seems itยดs impossible to do it worse than the PP has done it, well, it is possible.But itยดs also possible to do it better.and a legal autodetermination right.itยดs not impossible either.You may not agree with it as a huge problem, well, for me itยดs the key to start solving it! and about the basque separatists, well, if they want their vote, itsยดsimple: ETA prisoners have to be in jails close to the basque country, and there has to be a negotiation about a legal autodetermination right. and about the PNV, they are all the time doing the same: the fucking estatuto, itยดs still not finished by the spanish government ( itยดs from 1980 and this regional laws has some laws to be directed from the basque country, and still there are a lot of them missing), all the spanish governments have decided to ignore the regional law.I know that the spanish people think that PNV itยดs always taking money for the basque country, but everything is related to that law.If Sanchez decides to finally give to the regional parlament what legally is supposed to be here, PNV will be quiet. so yes, Iยดm happy because PP is out, but remember that Ciudadans itยดs even more extremist, they scare me. The new ones have a lot of work to do, and, donยดt forget it, they have corruption too...good luck to us!!!we will need it! For me theyโre messing around and A LOT because we have urgent things to do regarding POVERTY, HEALTH, PENSIONSย SCIENCE INVESTMENT... that affect 45 millions of citizens . and the debate will go again to what feel two million people.ย Its like that for the past two years. Many of us suffering those cuts and unemployment are FED UPย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promise to try Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 those problems are happening in the basque country or catalonia too: if you see the marchs of the retired people, the biggest ones are here, even bigger than the ones in madrid, which has a bigger population.the political parties that think we should be outside spain, have a big left winged people too.These are common problems that shoudlnยดt stop the different governments from solving the territorial problems either. so far, both for the PP and the PSOE, it has been an excuse, not a real reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonski43 Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 13 hours ago, promise to try said: and welcome new corrupts! Exactly! News here was saying they think he'll struggle to stay in power the next couple of years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted June 3, 2018 Author Share Posted June 3, 2018 15 hours ago, jonski43 said: Exactly! News here was saying they think he'll struggle to stay in power the next couple of years! Yes. Its a pity because many urgent things are to be done. Sadly the debate will go into other territories Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted June 3, 2018 Author Share Posted June 3, 2018 18 hours ago, promise to try said: those problems are happening in the basque country or catalonia too: if you see the marchs of the retired people, the biggest ones are here, even bigger than the ones in madrid, which has a bigger population.the political parties that think we should be outside spain, have a big left winged people too.These are common problems that shoudlnยดt stop the different governments from solving the territorial problems either. so far, both for the PP and the PSOE, it has been an excuse, not a real reason. Tell that to Pedro Sanchez when he has to answer to the demands of certain groups to pass every single new law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promise to try Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Just now, karbatal said: Tell that to Pedro Sanchez when he has to answer to the demands of certain groups to pass every single new law. thatยดs why I think this government is not going to work.and it will give us a dangerously powerful Ciudadans, and an angry PP for the next elections... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horn Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horn Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Hot or Not? ย ย ย ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOD Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Not bad looking but the face is meh and he got the physique of a fridgeย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted June 7, 2018 Author Share Posted June 7, 2018 A great bunch of ministers we have!!!! Good experts in Economics, Finances, one astronaut as minister of Science, two openly gay one of them being a judge, always advocating for LGTB rightsย and now in the Ministry of Justice, majority of women...ย We only need to take all Catalan politicians ย from prison, take down the unfair labour market reform and Spain will be again as it was!!!!! ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted June 7, 2018 Author Share Posted June 7, 2018 Oh dear I'm so happy that the Rajoy nightmare is over!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promise to try Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 On 6/7/2018 at 12:06 PM, karbatal said: A great bunch of ministers we have!!!! Good experts in Economics, Finances, one astronaut as minister of Science, two openly gay one of them being a judge, always advocating for LGTB rightsย and now in the Ministry of Justice, majority of women...ย We only need to take all Catalan politicians ย from prison, take down the unfair labour market reform and Spain will be again as it was!!!!! ย some ministers look really good, apparently they know what they are doing.Others, well, I have problems with the culture minister, and not because he has been appearing in gossip shows, thatยดs not a bad thing, itยดs more because of his twits about the indepentendists, yes.I would never have a minister in my government saying that about the people that feel spain.Itยดs a huge mistake and a lack of respect. ย anyways, the problem are not the ministers, but the lack of support he has in the parlament, and specially, in the senate. Iรฑve had read somewhere that he may use the autonomic elections also for the senate! just to try to break the PPs power there. If it works...great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOD Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Why is he built like a fridge? Like sponge bob square pantsย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genevieve Vavance Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 7 hours ago, GOD said: Why is he built like a fridge? Like sponge bob square pantsย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotos8 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 i didn't know that Franko's bones were kept like he was some kind of hero .kudos to spain's new government that they will remove them fromย Valle de los Caรญdos ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promise to try Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 20 minutes ago, sotos8 said: i didn't know that Franko's bones were kept like he was some kind of hero .kudos to spain's new government that they will remove them fromย Valle de los Caรญdos ย I will believe it when I see it done.And yes, Frnco,and the creator of the spanish fascist party,called falange (jose antonio primo de rivera), are buried under a gigantic cross in the middle of the iberiar peninsula.It was built by thousands of anti francoยดs prisoners treated as slaves.Thousands of their bones are also there.Of course all together in the same places, and thousands of them are still unknown. and yes,itยดs, apparently, a huge problem for a lot of people, unbyry him, what to do with the body... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotos8 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 well ,isn't time to release old ghosts ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promise to try Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Just now, sotos8 said: well ,isn't time to release old ghosts ? to me, we are 30 years late!!!! but you have to take into account that a lot of people in spain still respect him,even in the basque country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promise to try Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 On 6/4/2018 at 4:29 PM, horn said: Hot or Not? ย ย ย ย there has been a m ini scandal this weekend with him. Apparently he has used the presidential airplane to go to a The killers concert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted July 23, 2018 Author Share Posted July 23, 2018 We have a Macron clone as new leader of the Conservatives!!!!! Pablo Casado. The worst! ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horn Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 2 hours ago, karbatal said: We have a Macron clone as new leader of the Conservatives!!!!! Pablo Casado. The worst! ย That hair... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promise to try Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 he scares me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promise to try Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 and he already has problems of corruption, apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 4 hours ago, promise to try said: and he already has problems of corruption, apparently. No wonder. Nobody knows how he could pass all the Law exams in only 2 years. The second he stepped into the political party, he magically passed all exams at the university What about his degree in Harvardย that later was in fact done in a village near Madrid?ย ย ย The Conservatives in Spain are THE WORST OF THE HORRORS!!!!ย ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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