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11 minutes ago, Jazzy Jan said:

This is so stupid that it is both comical and frightening.   Who does Trump meet to discuss prison reform and sentencing ?   Not a criminal lawyer or someone who is in that field but instead Kim Kardashian. ! 

My guess... it's a distraction tactic (like all the rest). Look over here so you don't see the ongoing crimes/criminal investigations over there.

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Shit is about to hit the fan according to those in the know (from watching CNN and MSNBC analysts). His team is flailing because they know shit is about to go down. Experts say Mueller may be about to make his move with the Manafort situation overnight and Trump's lawyers' files  getting the green light and not protected under attorney/client privilege. Most of the experts say, from all indications, the end game will be starting in and around June 15th. This is why we are hearing all this shit about pardons and such. 

I hope this shit stain on the USA goes down and all the Republicans with him. They are all fuck ass deep in this Russian mess. They all knew. They wanted that Supreme Court seat and these judge vacancies filled up with far right nuts bad enough to collude (or allow) the Russians to attack us. 

I've heard (from a friend in politics) that we may end up with Orrin Hatch as President soon. Trump, Pence and Ryan are all complicit in this Russian mess and will go down. Hatch is next in line.

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The biggest question that is on everyone's mouth, here, in Quebec/Canada: will he come to the Group of Seven meeting tomorrow and Saturday or not ?

Apparently his team confirmed he'll be there, but many  people are still suspicious about it. We'll believe it when we'll see it.

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He just doesn't care about his love for Russia and Putin being blatant. His supporters just don't care either. He picked the right party for his shenanigans. The Dems aren't perfect but he could never get away with all of this if he were a Democrat. The GOP's moral center has collapsed into nothing. He loathes Europe and loves Russia. He is trying to realign us with Russia it appears. 

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28 minutes ago, Magician said:

Heartless evil pigs constantly showing their disdain for those struggling

 

Horrific. How can anyone justify this ?   Complete disregard for people and so selfish, heartless, uncaring and arrogant to the extreme. 

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6 hours ago, Magician said:

Heartless evil pigs constantly showing their disdain for those struggling

 

Fucking ASSHOLES.

Every single one of them.

Good god I hate the GOP. Heartless demonic sadists. Every single one of them.

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4 hours ago, LSD said:

 

Love that photo. Merkel really has some good photos with Trump. I hope she kicked his ass at G7.

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48 minutes ago, Magician said:

Trump is such an embarrassment

 

He just sinks lower and lower.  Sickening man on every level.  Tweeting this rubbish and disrespecting other nations that have long been America's allies.  How can it be acceptable for a President to "tweet"  things like this about another leader.  

 

 

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What a coward he is. When he was still at the meeting, he told the press how great the relationship with all the other allies is. A 10! And as soon as he fled the meeting to meet with a dictator he is voicing what he really thinks? 

The U.S. (the beacon of democracy, allegedly) has sunken so low with its current administration. Everyone should have realized by now that Trump does not want to be president, he wants to be an autocratic ruler that is not limited or controlled by other governing parts in a democracy such as courts and parliaments. There is a reason why he seems to get along quite well or at least has a strange admiration for dictatorships, from North Korea to Russia, from Saudi Arabia to Israel (at least when it comes to Netanyahu) and China. When he talks about good relationships he expects other countries to bow down before the U.S. We have reached a point were people in the U.S. really need to step in. He is alienating the U.S. and is doing huge damage how the rest of the first world and developing countries see the U.S. We have reached a point where there is hardly any trust left, at some point there'll be no allies left. America alone it is. 

And what about all his lies about trade? Did he take a course at Trump University in macro economics? Other countries are robbing the U.S.? What a nonsense. The truth is that no one forced U.S. consumers or U.S. companies to buy products from outside the U.S. They just do. For various reasons. a) they are cheaper than U.S. products b) the U.S. does not even produce certain goods anymore, because they can be produced cheaper outside of the U.S. or the U.S. are no longer able to produce certain goods (machines and materials) anymore because they do not have the knowledge/skills and technologies and c) quality. Instead of adressing the real issues why the U.S. do have this huge trade deficit (which is actually not that big with certain countries if you add investments to the equation, but of course that doesn't fit the narrative) Trump is blaming others. The truth is, the U.S. problems are home made. a) It was the U.S. economy that decided at some point that producing certain goods in China, India or Mexico is he logical thing to do because those goods can be produced much cheaper there, compared to the U.S.(lower wages, less regulation regarding workers rights, health, safety issues). b) The financial strategy of U.S. corporations and investment funds is the quick buck. Every Dollar invested must create a nice profit immediately for owners and share holders. Putting money away for development and research to improve your products and keep them competitive in the future. In result certain materials and goods need to be bought overseas. Which was no issue until now. But with the tariffs? The very reason why U.S. companies that are supposed to be protected by Trumps measures are protesting is because they rely on high finished aluminium and steel from other countries because the technologies needed, simply do not exist in the U.S. If this steel or aluminium were needed for one of Trumps ugly buldings, he would sing a different tune. Oh, I forgot the Trump hotel in Vegas was build with Chinese steel as far as I remember. c) Quality. U.S. products are not really known to be of best quality. Not to talk about chlorine-washed chicken and food that contains genetically altered ingredients. The U.S. have not understood that there is a market outside of the U.S. that has different needs and different expectations. The U.S. were spoilt for two decades after 1945 and exporting goods to a war ridden Europe to re-build its countries. That made the U.S. the economic powerhouse it used to be. But at some point in the late 60s, early 70s with Europe having full functioning societies and economies again, European companies and consumers became independent and decided they want different, they want better. At this point the U.S. failed because they had this huge domestic market, that along created nice profits. Why care about foreign markets? You can see the results for quite some time already. European and Asian consumers are not interested in American cars (I use this example because Trump is riding it like a dead horse). They don't like the technical features and most above all the design. After all, a car is an emotional investment. 25% tariffs on American cars in Europe? Thinking this is the reason why no one buys them, just shows the ignorance. Just as believing that slapping a tariff of 25% on foreign cars in the U.S. will make U.S. consumers stay away from let's say German cars. What a joke. First of all, except for Audi all big German Brands do have production facilities in the U.S. BMW in Spartanburg is even exporting from there. Oh, the irony, a bad bad German car company that has basically created tens of thousands jobs in the area. High paid jobs. Secondly, does he really believe people with money will stop buying those expensive cars because they cost 15% more? Ridiculous. Again, cars are an emotional thing and at some price point a status symbol. And if "being part" means driving a BMW, Mercedes, Audi or Porsche, people will continue to buy them. Especially when U.S. car makers are unable to come up with cars that are equal in many ways. 

And about the tariffs? Oh yes, they are so unfair. Well, someone may explain to him how it works and most above all that the U.S. agreed to those tariffs back in the day. Of course, Trump is a simple minded person. When he sees that European cars in the U.S. only have 10% slapped on them while U.S. cars in Europe have 25% slapped on them, it appears unfair. The truth is that this works vice versa with many other products. When those tariffs were negotiated, they were negotiated on an overall equation. A little give and take, but as we all know now, this has not really to do with the percentage at all. We know now that all of our Canadian, Japanese, European products are security threads to U.S. consumers. Again, what a joke.

Sorry for my long post. 

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First Kim Kardashian and now Dennis Rodman who appears in Singapure for the meeting of the 2 dicators.

I wouldnt be surprised if Kim K runs next year for the president with vice president nominee Dennis Rodman.

Even the imagination Kim K and Dennis R as presenters of the US is frightening, but on the other hand,

its USA, land of 1000 possibilities..

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Trump is slowly tearing apart our relationship with our allies, cozying up to Putin and Russia, cozying up to Kim Jong Un. There is so much crazy shit going on with his administration from the Russian shit, the tax cut shit, the tariff shit, the crazy shit his cabinet is doing, his insane, juvenile tweets, his total lack of vocabulary, his constant hyperbole, his shameful nonstop LIES, it is just hard to wrap your head around because it is CONSTANT! So much so, people here tune it out. It APPEARS the media is against him because there is literally nonstop crazy shit to report but his supporters just see it as the tired old "liberal media" jargon. 

Suicide rates are up and I wonder if some of it isn't tied to the fact facts don't matter anymore and corporations have just raped our country of a middle class. I know so many people who are just bullied at work by bosses because there are no employee protections anymore. The Republicans BLATANTLY do things to help the very rich and connected yet SELL it like they're doing the middle class. The Democrats haven't found the right formula to fight this but if they do big money POURS in from billionaires and corporations and they end up demolished.

 

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16 minutes ago, LSD said:

 

Geez, anything to scare the people. Most people are freaking dumb as a box as rocks if they believe this shit or that a fucking WALL will stop it.

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Watched some documentaries last night that were on SBS tv.  One on John McCain and then part 1 of a 4 part series on The New York Times coverage of Trump.  It really is frightening how Trump has tapped so easily into the ugliest side of America and panders and promotes fear, extreme racism and vile crass language and behaviour.  It started with Sarah Palin and he has taken it way up to the next level.  Very depressing to watch.  To see Trump completely dismiss and mock John McCain for example is exactly how he operates. His comments about him not being a war hero because he was captured just shows his lack of any decency and intelligence.  Especially hideous as he himself is a draft dodger.  Bone spurs anyone. 

 He mocks, lies and then ridicules people and has somehow hoodwinked struggling Americans to believe he stands with them when he is a billionaire who had his entire wealth given to him and does not even care about struggling people having healthcare.    To now see him talk so dreadfully of his allies is just typical of his behaviour.  Denigrating Canada now and his arrogant tweets about their prime minister.  I can't imagine any USA president behaving like this previously and it is a shocking example of how low American politics have sunk to have a president continually lie and then mock anyone who disagrees with him. 

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Trump's foreign policy team said the Trump doctrine is "We have no friends or enemies" and, get this, "Permanent destabilization creates American advantage". Yes, you read that right. 

Then THIS one- "We're America, BITCH". Holy SHIT. You CANNOT make this up. The batshit is real.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2018/06/12/what-the-trump-doctrine-reveals-about-trumps-foreign-policy/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.3281cdacfbdd

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