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This is so tragic! I was literally JUST at the "Mandalay Bay" resort for a concert a few weeks ago. I can't imagine the horror these people went through and are still going through.

50+ people dead and 200 injured is absolutely insane. I am so very sorry for the victims and their loved ones.

What the fuck America?  People are so focused on the "Mohamed's" of the world that they are forgetting about the homegrown terrorists right here in the U.S. Trump just released a statement and he isn't calling this terrorism  of course because the shooter is more than likely a white male. Call it what it is. This was a terrorist attack.

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2 minutes ago, StrawberryBounce12 said:

This is so tragic! I was literally JUST at the "Mandalay Bay" resort for a concert a few weeks ago. I can't imagine the horror these people went through and are still going through.

50+ people dead and 200 injured is absolutely insane. I am so very sorry for the victims and their loved ones.

What the fuck America?  People are so focused on the "Mohamed's" of the world that they are forgetting about the homegrown terrorists right here in the U.S. Trump just released a statement and he isn't calling this terrorism  of course because the shooter is more than likely a white male. Call it what it is. This was a terrorist attack.

It's the same in the UK news though too.

If it's a local it's a mass murder but if they are doing it and are associated to some cause or group, it's a terrorist incident.

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I understand but call it domestic terrorism then. This is a real problem in the U.S. so many homegrown terrorists.

My point is that so many Americans and Trump want to ban all Muslims but don't seem too concerned about the sickos in this Country. Why are these mass killings so commonplace in the U.S.? Insane.

Let's call it what it is. Over 50 people have been killed (so far sadly) and 200 injured. This is an act of terrorism.

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Dreadful horrible news. It is sickening that innocent people enjoying themselves at a concert can be shot and killed.  Unless America changes their gun laws, these cowardly mass shootings will keep continuing as they do over and over again.  This is such a shocking and tragic disregard for human lives. 

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5 minutes ago, Jazzy Jan said:

Dreadful horrible news. It is sickening that innocent people enjoying themselves at a concert can be shot and killed.  Unless America changes their gun laws, these cowardly mass shootings will keep continuing as they do over and over again.  This is such a shocking and tragic disregard for human lives. 

It's the absolute truth.  The gun laws must be changed.  So tired of the "guns don't kill people, people kill people..." mentality.  

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4 hours ago, ThinkOfMe said:

I am currently next to Mandalay Bay on the freeway in a lockdown sitiation VERY SCARY I've been here for about 2 hours

hope you're okay..

55 minutes ago, karbatal said:

OMG!

We are so immerse in Spain in other problems that I didn't know about this until now. This is horrible and heartbroken. How can this be possible????? And no terrorist at all??? 

i havent heard anything about this until i checked social media/this forum. didnt even hear anything on the radio news.

38 minutes ago, jonski43 said:

It's the same in the UK news though too.

If it's a local it's a mass murder but if they are doing it and are associated to some cause or group, it's a terrorist incident.

yep..

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@ThinkOfMe and other Madonnanation members be safe.  

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Not going to watch those videos. Feeling sickened. We seriously doesn’t deserve this Earth. 

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Awful. I mean we all know its going to happen but when it does. 

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I’ve been to Las Vegas and I loved it. I’m sure many others from America and across the world love to visit as well. This is so sad . 

50 dead and 200 wounded I’m seeing in my newsfeed. A lot of comments are talking about active shooters across multiple hotel/casinos along the strip. I dunno how truthful that is as these are just comments and not sourced on the news articles themselves. 

If true this was definitely a coordinated effort to kill as many people as possible which is 100% terrorism regardless of how the media will spin it in this country. I don’t know the gun laws in Nevada so I don’t know how easy it is for anyone with bad intentions and a poor moral conscience to get hold of some weapons.

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The total wounded has increased to more than 400.  The man was shooting from his hotel room on the 32nd floor for 15-20 minutes before he was stopped.  It did people no good to get down on the ground as your normal reaction would be in that situation.  That just made them stationary targets.  I just can't handle this...

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NO one should be able to own an automatic weapon.  PERIOD!  When the hell is this country going to wake up!?

 

He hasn't posted in ages does anyone talk to 12:51?  Poor guy had to deal with the mass shooting in Orlando and I remember him moving to Vegas.  Don't know if he still lives there.

 

Kind of sad, because usually when they say a President is about to speak on a tragedy people usually tune in for comfort and wisdom.  Hearing Trump is going to speak soon and I am like, "Yuck!  Last person I want to hear from."

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Horrible news!

Will Trump sign an immediate executive order to ban all firearms?

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I agree that automatic weapons need to banned! Why does anyone need to own these apart from those who are actively serving in the military? Fucking ridiculous.

America has so many sickos. Wtf? You can't go anywhere these days. Concerts/festivals are the new targets for these terrorists it seems. SMH.

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Still worshipping guns Americans? Why aren't they talking about the real problem here?! Americans as people are way too mentally unstable to have the right to own guns with no question asked. I remember when I was in California and I was shocked seeing guns being sold at supermarkets. There were people carrying them as if they were sweet nothing. They're instruments of death. They should be banned. Doesn't need discussion. It's common sense. 

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Such sad news.  It's really heartbreaking to hear this shit, which has gotten more frequent and deadly.  If you have such little respect for human life and yourself, just shoot yourself!!!  Why take the lives of innocent people?  What does this prove?  

My thoughts and prayers are with those affected by this inhumane act.  Hope all MNation members/families are safe.  

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Such a horrible tragedy oh my god.

All those poor people.

To top it all off, automatic weapons are ILLEGAL in America so this guy either got it illegally or got this weapon years before that law was implemented here in 1986

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13 minutes ago, M.Dolla said:

Such a horrible tragedy oh my god.

All those poor people.

To top it all off, automatic weapons are ILLEGAL in America so this guy either got it illegally or got this weapon years before that law was implemented here in 1986

At least 10 rifles were found in his hotel room. Let's not be silly here.. Americans gun policy is the elephant in the room. 

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Gun violence is so incredibly preventable, but as long as the NRA has the power (and the $$$$$$$$) it does, what needs to happen will never happen.

For example, I live in Missouri and my state Senator accepted almost $12,000 from the NRA during the 2016 election cycle. 
And this man tweeted out a bullshit "thoughts and prayers" tweet and I almost threw my phone.

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2 minutes ago, anastaza said:

Gun violence is so incredibly preventable, but as long as the NRA has the power (and the $$$$$$$$) it does, what needs to happen will never happen.

For example, I live in Missouri and my state Senator accepted almost $12,000 from the NRA during the 2016 election cycle. 
And this man tweeted out a bullshit "thoughts and prayers" tweet and I almost threw my phone.

Disgusting. These people have blood in their hands. I hope Americans will come back to their senses and see the error - in this case the horror- of their thinking. 

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WORST mass shooting in America history. Awful on so many levels. We continue to have many mass shootings and any significant reform from Congress is almost impossible. With the deranged cheeto we have in charge now it's less likely anything can get done. There are so many mass shootings that the ones that have "just" a few casualties barely get any national press coverage because these shootings are so frequent.

My friend that works at Caesars Palace is safe and fine thank goodness!

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i'm glad ur friend is ok hector!

i wish this senseless terror would stop. 

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1 minute ago, MeakMaker said:

Disgusting. These people have blood in their hands. I hope Americans will come back to their senses and see the error - in this case the horror- of their thinking. 

I know, it's stomach-turning.
The majority of the government officials who receive money from the NRA are Republicans (shocker), because of course the Dems want gun control
I'm at a loss as to what to do.  The only thing I can think of that would have an impact would be for Americans to NOT vote for those who are receiving this money. It's up to the people to take a stand with their votes (and of course I don't think that will happen either because I'm cynical like that).

I don't think we will ever have a breaking point.  You would think that Sandy Hook would have been it with the massacre of 20 six and seven year olds.

But no.  It's going to happen again.  I just hope and pray that myself/none of you or your families and friends are ever victims.

 

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3 minutes ago, Hector said:

WORST mass shooting in America history. Awful on so many levels. We continue to have many mass shootings and any significant reform from Congress is almost impossible. With the deranged cheeto we have in charge now it's less likely anything can get done. There are so many mass shootings that the ones that have "just" a few casualties barely get any national press coverage because these shootings are so frequent.

My friend that works at Caesars Palace is safe and fine thank goodness!

glad your friend is okay <3

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15 Years After Columbine, How “Never Again” Became “Oh, Well”

Welcome to America, the land of blue jeans, rock and roll, and sporadic meaningless mass murder.

On April 20, 1999, two teenagers walked into a suburban high school outside of Denver and shot 13 people to death. The massacre at Columbine was not the first mass shooting in America. It was not the first mass shooting at an American school. Indeed, Peter Jennings began the news that night, “The reaction of so many people today was ‘Oh no, not again.'” But Columbine was different. It became a national trauma in a way the others hadn’t. Yes, it was the deadliest American school shooting on record at the time—though it is no longer—but what really amplified its significance was the fact it was the first mass shooting that played out in real time on television. The shootings began at 11:19 a.m. By noon, local television stations had broken into regular programming with uninterrupted media coverage. Millions of people across the country turned on CNN and watched the story develop.

Here’s how America watched the chaos of Columbine: There were reports of a shooting and it was at a school and the body count began going up and witnesses said they were two shooters with shotguns and rifles and pistols and there had been an explosion across town and it had been a diversion maybe and pipe bombs, something about pipe bombs, and the body count kept rising, and booby traps, and then Clinton gave a speech and then the shooters were in a mafia that wore trench coats and maybe there were more than two and then, no, there were only two and they were dead and the bomb squad finished the initial sweep of the building at 4:45 p.m. and it was over, but not really because then there was the CCTV footage, the witness interviews, the search for motive, they had been bowling, they had been bullied, they had said something about Hitler and they listened to Marilyn Manson and they wanted to one up Timothy McVeigh and What Does It All Mean?

After Columbine there was a general sense that something had to be done. That kids getting killed at school was a thing we weren’t going to be okay with. “Never again,” as they say.

It wasn’t some fanciful impossibility. The British did it after Dunblane. And so we did that. Everyone got together and passed sweeping gun control legislation and there was never another mass shooting in America.

Except not really. Because the “never again” response—though shared by many—was not shared by all.

We seem to have accepted that the occasional mass murder is the cost of America.

On May 1, Charlton Heston came to Denver and made a much-discussed speech where he said, “We have work to do, hearts to heal, evil to defeat, and a country to unite. We may have differences, yes, and we will again suffer tragedy almost beyond description. But when the sun sets on Denver tonight, and forever more, let it always set on we the people, secure in our land of the free and the home of the brave.” Say what you will about that speech, but as far as predictions go it was spot on. It’s a fait accompli. There were more shootings. We mourned and then did nothing because we seem to have accepted that occasional mass murder is the cost of America.

Both responses, “never again” and “don’t bother trying,” offer statements about the USA. The former says “America is the greatest country on Earth. We went to the moon. Surely, we can stop kids from getting shot to death at school! If the Brits can do it, so can we. ” The latter says, “No, we can’t. We’re America. The greatest country on Earth and the cost of the liberty that makes us so is that our kids may get shot to death at school.”

Every time there is another mass shooting and nothing happens it becomes a little easier to believe that the “don’t bother” crowd is right.

Nothing changed after 13 people were killed at Columbine, or 33 at Virginia Tech, or 26 at Sandy Hook. Each of those tragedies came with the same breaking-news urgency as Columbine, but none generated the same sense of expected action because fewer and fewer people actually believed things could change. The last 15 years have been a lesson in how “never again” can be cowed into “I need a drink.”

And that’s insane.

Fifteen years after Columbine rattled America to its core, people still get shot while they’re at school. People get shot while they’re at work. People get shot eating. People get shot drinking. People get shot watching movies, shopping, driving, swimming, skipping, and playing baseball. It’s 2014 and in America people get shot doing basically any goddamn thing you can think of.

They don’t have to.

 

(article  is from 3 years ago)

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/04/columbine-15-years-later/

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