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Does it sound awfully familiar? First it is about WMD. Then there is a preemtive strike. Then this was never about WMD in the first place because it was about regime change. And while we are at it, some government members are already suggesting to outsource parts of the army to a private company. Again. Does that sound awfully familiar?

Also, special counsel Mueller is following the money in relation to the Russian collusion with the U.S. elections. I'd say, follow the money for things that will happen in the future. Look for puts and calls placed on a crashing Dow and other indices. Look for the date those bets are due and the people that are about to make billions. ................................

 

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5 hours ago, Raider of the lost Ark said:

Does it sound awfully familiar? First it is about WMD. Then there is a preemtive strike. Then this was never about WMD in the first place because it was about regime change. And while we are at it, some government members are already suggesting to outsource parts of the army to a private company. Again. Does that sound awfully familiar?

Also, special counsel Mueller is following the money in relation to the Russian collusion with the U.S. elections. I'd say, follow the money for things that will happen in the future. Look for puts and calls placed on a crashing Dow and other indices. Look for the date those bets are due and the people that are about to make billions. ................................

 

China and Russia would NEVER allow this to happen. Trump is a faggot pussy, he'd never do anything to upset China. 

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i'm not sure if it's official or just editorial from china stating that china would not stand up for NK if NK attacked first but if the US attacks first they will stand up for NK

escalating but do you think NK is serious? or once again will just back down as usual. 

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I think China and the US should be more cautions with North Korea intentions.

It seems that North Korea is tricking China to a war with the US. Let me explain: North Korea said their plan is to launch some missiles at Guam coast but not actually strike Guam island, therefore it wouldn't be clear if this could be classified as a direct attack, but the US would immediately react launching an offensive against North Korea. That could be considered by China as a first strike of the US against North Korea and in that case China would not be neutral as it said already that would prevent any first strike of the US. The situation could put the US in direct conflict with China and that would be the only option for North Korea to have some levarage in this war.

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4 hours ago, Nessie said:

I think China and the US should be more cautions with North Korea intentions.

It seems that North Korea is tricking China to a war with the US. Let me explain: North Korea said their plan is to launch some missiles at Guam coast but not actually strike Guam island, therefore it wouldn't be clear if this could be classified as a direct attack, but the US would immediately react launching an offensive against North Korea. That could be considered by China as a first strike of the US against North Korea and in that case China would not be neutral as it said already that would prevent any first strike of the US. The situation could put the US in direct conflict with China and that would be the only option for North Korea to have some levarage in this war.

well here i thought it sounded good that they would stay out of it. but there are always loop holes in war. :nervous:

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On 12/8/2017 at 10:20 AM, promise to try said:

I think the war will be against venezuela, to make his pro war fans happy

I was thinking about the same, there is oil there without the risk of a global conflict 

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Pyongyang’s main economic lifeline falls as China bans key imports from N. Korea

 

China has announced a full ban on imports of coal, iron, and seafood, among other goods from North Korea, thus cutting key export revenues for Pyongyang.

Starting Tuesday, no more exports of North Korean coal, iron, iron ore, lead, lead ore and seafood will be accepted to the country, the Chinese Ministry of Commerce announced on Monday. Goods that have already reached Chinese ports and customs should be released not later than September 5. 

However, the measures are not applied to exports of coal through North Korea’s Rason port by a third party, if it has UN approval and can prove that the goods do not originate from North Korea.

The announcement indicates Beijing’s full implementation of the latest UN Security Council (UNSC) resolution against North Korea, which targets key revenue sources of the communist state, depriving it of $1 billion annual foreign revenue. The restrictive measures were unanimously approved by all 15 members of the UNSC in response to North Korea’s latest missile tests, which it claims were of intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs).

China is considered North Korea’s main economic lifeline, and the success of the latest round of sanctions depends to a large degree on Beijing. Following the UN vote in favor of punitive measures against Pyongyang on August 5, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi acknowledged that the UN resolution would affect the country’s economic interests, but promised that China is prepared “to pay most of the price” for it.

Tensions between the US – which initiated the latest UN resolution – and North Korea have been mounting recently with increasingly belligerent threats from both sides.

Meanwhile, Pyongyang recalled some heads of its foreign missions in China, Russia, and the UN back home to participate in a special diplomatic meeting on Monday, according to South Korean news agency Yonhap. The number of ambassadors called in to participate in the meeting is unclear.

The meeting may be a regular gathering of North Korean diplomats, according to Ministry of Unification spokesman Baik Tae-hyun, as cited by Yonhap.

The meeting may have been called “to deal with the difficult international circumstance the country is currently handling,” Yonhap reports.

 

https://www.rt.com/news/399559-china-bans-imports-north-korea/

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With these latest news i'm afraid that war now is a very real option, probably the only option left for North Korea.

Without China as their lifesupport they simply have no other choice, otherwise how could this failed state could remain afloat? It basically lost everything to sanctions, China was their only hope left to keep their dicatorship in place, now there is not a single nation in the world behind them anymore.

North Korea has been officially cut out of the world and this is the recipe for disaster.

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'There's not much we can do!' South Korea BEGS Trump not to go to WAR with North Korea

 

THE SOUTH Korean president has urged the United States not to go to war with Pyongyang and called on the North to bring an end to its threatening behaviour.

Moon Jae-in, who has only been in office since May, said: "There must be no more war on the Korean Peninsula. Whatever ups and downs we face, the North Korean nuclear situation must be resolved peacefully. 

"I am certain the United States will respond to the current situation calmly and responsibly in a stance that is equal to ours." 

With Donald Trump and Kim Jong-un trading insults and threats over the past few days, the world is watching as war appears an increasingly likely prospect.

Trump has said North Korea will be met with “fire and fury like the world has never seen” if the hermit state continues to threaten the US, while Pyongyang claimed to be preparing a plan to strike the US territory of Guam later this month.

Moon Chung-in, a special adviser to the South Korean president, said the North will not negotiate with Seoul and are pushing for talks the US, who they see as more influential.

He said: "Dialogue is urgently needed to stop the North from developing its weapons programmes further.

"But North Korea sees the South as powerless and won't negotiate with us. They want to have direct talks with the United States.” 

National security adviser Lee Su-hoon added that the South is helpless while North Korea and the US continue to trade insults.

He said: ”Moon [Jae-in] has been telling Trump that a military option should never be considered, but there is not much we can do when two strong leaders [of North Korea and the United States] are clashing.

"But no one wants a catastrophic end. Down the road, I expect there will be a compromise and dialogue."

Last week, South Korea’s top military commanders were ordered to prepare for conflict as North Korea’s threat of nuclear war continues to intensify.

The North’s neighbours are growing increasingly concerned about the imminent prospect of war and South Korea’s president, Moon Jae-in, has called on his top commanders to ready the troops.

He said South Korea must become more self-reliant as it faces “the urgent task of securing defence capabilities to counter North Korea's nuclear and missile provocations”.

“The goal of defence reform is to build a winning military, a highly confident military,” he said at a meeting with six new military commanders.

“Most of all, it is important to secure capabilities that will ensure our victory in modern warfare and prepare us against North Korea's developing nuclear arms and missiles.”

“The goal of defence reform is to build a winning military, a highly confident military,” he said at a meeting with six new military commanders.

“Most of all, it is important to secure capabilities that will ensure our victory in modern warfare and prepare us against North Korea's developing nuclear arms and missiles.”

There are also fears in Seoul that North Korea’s war threats could affect the financial market.

Finance Minister Kim Dong-yeon said: "The impact of (North Korean threats) on the financial and foreign exchange market is now expanding to the global level. A small shock will highly likely intensify market volatility. 

"The government will not let its guard down and maintain a watertight posture with strengthened risk management."

Kim said the South Korean government will closely look into financial data, such as foreign reserves, short-term external debts and foreign exchange liquidity in financial institutions, in order to ease any possible financial concerns.

He added: ”The government will strengthen around-the-clock monitoring of the market and take immediate action in accordance with its established contingency plan.”

Meanwhile, the US is preparing military options for a possible war with North Korea amid fears new sanctions against the hermit state will fail to rein in the hermit state's missile threats.

US Joint Chiefs of Staff Joseph Dunford said that pursuing diplomacy and economic sanctions remain the US's top priority, but the unpredictable nature of North Korea means military options must be ready for the potential outbreak of war.

Dunford made the comments during a discussion with South Korean president Moon Jae-in during a meeting to discuss the recent soaring tensions between Pyongyang and Washington.

 

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/840737/north-korea-news-latest-president-trump-war-south-korea-moon-jae-in-tensions

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meanwhile...it's middle of august.

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US asks Latin American countries to 'break all ties with N. Korea'

 

US Vice President Mike Pence has asked Chile, Peru, Mexico and Brazil to break diplomatic and other ties with North Korea, as part of a campaign to pressure Pyongyang into giving up missiles and nuclear weapons.

“It’s imperative that the regime in Pyongyang understand that all options are on the table,” Pence said  on Wednesday in Santiago, in a joint press conference with Chilean president Michelle Bachelet.

“Our hope is that Chile, Brazil, Mexico and Peru will join us in breaking all ties with North Korea,” he said.

Latin American countries severing diplomatic ties with North Korea will “facilitate a peaceful outcome” and show Pyongyang that “there is a cost” for defying the will of the international community, Pence said.

The US “will simply not permit a rogue regime in North Korea to possess nuclear weapons that can reach our country” and threaten Americans, Pence said.

Washington’s objective is a nuclear-free Korean peninsula, Pence added. “We want the regime in Pyongyang to permanently abandon its nuclear and missile ambitions.”

Chile’s ambassador to China, who also represents the country in North Korea, has not presented credentials to the government of Kim Jong-un for the past four years, Pence said, adding that he asked Bachelet to make that break official.

Meanwhile, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov warned that the possibilities of further economic pressure on North Korea have been practically exhausted.

“We can’t support the ideas that some of our partners keep putting forward, which are intended to literally suffocate North Korea,” Russia’s chief diplomat told RIA Novosti, noting that the rhetoric from both Washington and Pyongyang concerning the situation on the Korean peninsula has toned down in recent days.

The US vice-president has been on a Latin American tour this week, visiting Mexico, Brazil, Peru and Colombia to drum up support for a blockade of Venezuela. The US has accused the government in Caracas of threatening democracy by holding elections for a constitutional assembly.

Pence also praised Chile as a “shining example” of a country that “chose economic freedom decades ago” and now is a “vibrant democracy” inspiring other Latin American countries.

 

https://www.rt.com/usa/399819-pence-ties-north-korea/

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“vibrant democracy” unlike USA.

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weirdos - on both sides!

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North Korea has launched another missile over Japan.  :nervous:  frightening in every way.  

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I don't know why the media and people in general are not more concerned over this. I can't understand it. Can't they stop worrying about Trump's hairstyle or speech, Macron's makeup or the new ifuckingphone and concentrate on things that might actually matter? Any nuclear blast will affect us all as it will trigger a catastrophic chain reaction.

The only voice of reason in this has been China. No one reports it in the West much though.

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5 minutes ago, CzarnaWisnia said:

I don't know why the media and people in general are not more concerned over this. I can't understand it. 

Same here.  Nuclear war is terrifying.  We all know the saying that if there is ever World war 3, it will be the final world war because Earth won't survive a nuclear war.  

 

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I think actually Earth will survive just fine whatever humans could do, but human life will be deeply compromised by a world war in which the latest technology will make WWI and II seem like prehistoric sticks and stones dispute.

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for a bit of recent history recap:

 

For the reference to the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists:

For the last two years, the minute hand of the Doomsday Clock stayed set at three minutes before the hour, the closest it had been to midnight since the early 1980s. In its two most recent annual announcements on the Clock, the Science and Security Board warned: “The probability of global catastrophe is very high, and the actions needed to reduce the risks of disaster must be taken very soon.” In 2017, we find the danger to be even greater, the need for action more urgent. It is two and a half minutes to midnight, the Clock is ticking, global danger looms. Wise public officials should act immediately, guiding humanity away from the brink. If they do not, wise citizens must step forward and lead the way.  See the full statement from the Science and Security Board on the 2017 time of the Doomsday Clock.

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25 minutes ago, CzarnaWisnia said:

I think actually Earth will survive just fine whatever humans could do, but human life will be deeply compromised by a world war in which the latest technology will make WWI and II seem like prehistoric sticks and stones dispute.

Fear for everything.  Everything about wars have changed. Also With drones etc that basically are robots that kill without fear, thought, feeling or guilt. No feelings, no later consequences, no emotion to look back on. 

Humans have always been barbaric and power hungry. Too many don't learn from history. Now there is more technology for complete destruction and as you have mentioned, WW1 and WW2 will seem prehistoric in comparison. 

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so they send yet another missile over japan. 

whats japan supposed to do. just take it???

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Can someone poison Kim JongKONG's McDonald happy meal already? That lardy asshole could do with a severe case of food-bug diarrhea instead of attempting to show the world how big his penis is. Because it all boils down to that with weapons and wars, they say "my dick is bigger and more powerful than yours" whether with ballistic missiles or knives or guns.

Bet Kim McDonaldJongKONG is unable to even locate his own penis with all those encyclopedic layers of fat.

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your political analysis is unparalleled

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I find it annoying how the West feels so outraged by NK and their nuclear tests. We have been doing same thing for how many years now? Of course we don't know where they drop their bombs or make those nuclear experiments. The UK did theirs some time ago but the media only reported it months after. The US must be doing those tests on a daily basis. Why doesn't the West get sanctioned everytime they do their nuclear experiment? Is it because they are dropping bombs in the ocean? Isn't the life in the ocean worth saving or protecting? I say let's all get rid of the nukes and see what NK does.

Needles to say I'm appalled by the whole situation. It's pathetic to have someone like Trump lecturing the world about safety and protection. He's such a douch.

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