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33 minutes ago, Kim said:

Can't wait for cut price Trump, Bozo the Clown to become new PM!

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The way the world is going at the moment,  he will romp in.   Everyone keeps saying that the left is too left etc but My God - it is the other way around.  The way these right wing,  misogynist, racist compulsive liars with heartless ideology are excused and also just shrugged off by people is so frightening.  So fed up with the world at the moment and how totally inept, revolting people are just accepted as leaders. .  

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6 hours ago, Jazzy Jan said:

Larry the cat is the most wonderful soul to live at 10 Downing street ! 

Agree. If only he could stomach to devour the rat in leadership there...

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The former Conservative minister Ann Widdecombe has likened the UK’s departure from the EU to the emancipation of slaves, as she became the first Brexit party MEP to speak in the new European parliament.

With her leader, Nigel Farage, on her right, Widdecombe said the recent negotiations among the EU’s heads of state and government over the leadership of the bloc’s institutions confirmed the need for Britain to leave.

“It’s not democratic at all and that is just one of many reasons why Britain is right to be leaving this place, hopefully on Halloween,” Widdecombe told a plenary session of the European parliament in Strasbourg. “If that’s this place’s idea of democracy that’s a serious betrayal of every country represented here.”

Widdecombe, who was criticised this month for claiming science might “produce an answer” to being gay, said the UK’s departure from the EU equated to a liberation.  :electropop:

 

She said: “There is a pattern consistent throughout history of oppressed people turning on their oppressors, slaves against their owners, the peasantry against the feudal barons, colonies against empires, and that is why Britain is leaving … It doesn’t matter which language you use, we are leaving and we are pleased to be going. Nous allons [sic], wir gehen, we are off!”

 

 

 

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On 6/25/2019 at 6:50 PM, LSD said:

 

 

He sounds and looks like a genius really, doesn't he? I can't when he occasionally starts quoting Latin and Ancient Greek, all wrong of course  😂

Probably the next useful idiot the powers that be are set to utilize in order to introduce new policies that will give even more powers to corporations, set higher taxation levels, continue the steady dismemberment of the working and middle classes, justify military interventionism under the guise of exporting democracy and eradicating terrorism (while the US, the UK, France and Italy are ironically the biggest bankrollers, weaponry providers and net contributors to all the lovely Gulf countries that are the ones to actually export and sponsor violent groups and toxic ideology) and basically take away more rights to privacy of common citizens

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50 minutes ago, XXL said:

The former Conservative minister Ann Widdecombe has likened the UK’s departure from the EU to the emancipation of slaves, as she became the first Brexit party MEP to speak in the new European parliament.

With her leader, Nigel Farage, on her right, Widdecombe said the recent negotiations among the EU’s heads of state and government over the leadership of the bloc’s institutions confirmed the need for Britain to leave.

“It’s not democratic at all and that is just one of many reasons why Britain is right to be leaving this place, hopefully on Halloween,” Widdecombe told a plenary session of the European parliament in Strasbourg. “If that’s this place’s idea of democracy that’s a serious betrayal of every country represented here.”

Widdecombe, who was criticised this month for claiming science might “produce an answer” to being gay, said the UK’s departure from the EU equated to a liberation.  :electropop:

 

She said: “There is a pattern consistent throughout history of oppressed people turning on their oppressors, slaves against their owners, the peasantry against the feudal barons, colonies against empires, and that is why Britain is leaving … It doesn’t matter which language you use, we are leaving and we are pleased to be going. Nous allons [sic], wir gehen, we are off!”

 

 

 

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17 hours ago, Jazzy Jan said:

One of the most offensive, crazy rants I have heard.  What a revolting woman. 

 

Absolutely

And isn't it ironic that she's likening the EU to an an enslaving, undemocratic organisation when she is occupying an institutional seat representing a country that historically has enslaved and colonised and pilfered everywhere in the world?

Like France, Spain, Portugal and Italy too on a smaller scale. All done with the Roman Catholic Church blessing with its vast commercial interests through the centuries

The irony being that most Brexiteers and casual British citizens from rural areas seem to be wallowing in some kind of nostalgia for those very same Empire days, never mind Britain joined the EU because the economy sucked in the mid 70s, they were happy to enjoy the hand outs for four decades then they suddenly discovered they want to only enjoy the benefits of club membership but not bear the obligations that all other 27 member states subscribed to. They kept the sterling and were even allowed to opt out of Schengen, what more do those people in the British institutions that are so averse to this supernational entity want?

What should countries like Italy, Greece, Spain and by a lesser degree France, say or complain about since they have been plagued by serious immigration problems with real numbers and vexed by the International Monetary Fund too

 

It's so ridiculous and rather transparent

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Jeremy Hunt and Boris Johnson clash over Brexit in first and only televised debate before a new Tory PM gets appointed in two weeks time

 

 

 

 

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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48973861

 

Scotland Yard has been criticised for warning media organisations against publishing leaked government documents.

Metropolitan Police Assistant Commissioner Neil Basu advised editors it "could be a criminal matter".

His comments came as a criminal investigation was launched into the leak of diplomatic emails from the UK ambassador in the US, Sir Kim Darroch.

Evening Standard editor George Osborne described Mr Basu's statement as "stupid" and "ill-advised".

The investigation was launched by the Met Police Counter Terrorism Command, which takes national responsibility for investigating allegations of criminal breaches of the Official Secrets Act.

"The publication of leaked communications, knowing the damage they have caused or are likely to cause, may also be a criminal matter," said Mr Basu.

He added: "I would advise all owners, editors and publishers of social and mainstream media not to publish leaked government documents that may already be in their possession, or which may be offered to them, and to turn them over to the police or give them back to their rightful owner, Her Majesty's Government."

 

 

 

Mr Osborne, the former chancellor, tweeted that to maintain credibility the Met Commissioner, Cressida Dick, should distance herself from "this very stupid and ill-advised statement from a junior officer who doesn't appear to understand much about press freedom".

Other newspaper editors and MPs were also critical of Mr Basu's statement.

Sunday Times political editor Tim Shipman asked if Ms Dick had cleared the "sinister, absurd, anti-democratic statement... threatening journalists with arrest for printing government leaks?"

He added, on Twitter: "Do you have any comprehension of a free society? This isn't Russia."

Peter Spiegel, Financial Times US managing editor, wrote: "Well, this is rather chilling from a major police force in a western democracy. What are you going to do, Met Police, arrest us?"

Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt said he defended "to the hilt" the right of the press to publish leaks if they "judge them to be in the public interest".

 

 

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Good grief.   How could anyone consider Boris Johnson a credible candidate for PM.  Also,  what a coward.  Everyone and their dog knows that Trump is an inept compulsive liar but Boris the Bozo did not even openly support the British ambassador over Trump.  Understandable though as Boris is like the English Trump.  Both Johnson and Hunt got destroyed in this interview. 

 

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House of Lords passes amendment to help prevent no-deal Brexit

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Bill could make it illegal for a Boris Johnson administration to prorogue parliament

A no-deal showdown is expected in the House of Commons on Thursday after peers passed stronger protections against the prospect of a Boris Johnson administration attempting to prorogue parliament to force an exit from the EU in October.

The House of Lords passed an amendment by a majority of 103 on Wednesday that would ensure parliament would sit in the weeks leading up to the 31 October deadline. Fears have been growing that Johnson could prorogue or dissolve parliament in order to allow the deadline to pass without MPs interfering.

Thirteen Tory peers rebelled against the government to vote for the amendment from the crossbench peer David Anderson, a former independent reviewer of terror legislation, with support from Labour and the Lib Dems.

The amendment to the Northern Ireland (executive formation) bill builds on an amendment passed in the Commons last week, when MPs backed a proposal from the pro-European Tory Dominic Grieve calling for fortnightly reports from the government on the efforts to restore the power-sharing executive.

The new Lords amendment would ensure these have to be debated in the weeks before the Brexit deadline. The bill could theoretically make it illegal for the government to prorogue parliament in the autumn if the power-sharing executive in Northern Ireland has not been restored.

The Commons vote is likely to be extremely tight on Thursday. Grieve’s amendment passed by a single vote last week, after a government whip forgot to vote. Grieve lost votes on other related amendments.

The shadow Brexit secretary, Keir Starmer, said Labour would fight hard to try to ensure the bill’s progress on Thursday. “This is another important step to prevent the suspension of parliament. We will do everything to support this measure in the Commons tomorrow,” he said.

The former Commons leader Andrea Leadsom earlier hinted that Johnson could use the timing of his first Queen’s speech to lock out MPs and prevent them from blocking no deal.

The former Conservative minister Guto Bebb told Sky News he believed Johnson was “quite seriously contemplating” using a Queen’s speech to suspend parliament, by scheduling it for early November. Parliament traditionally does not sit for around a fortnight leading up to the speech.

Leadsom said she was not in favour of prorogation in principle. “I do not think that prorogation is a tactic that any prime minister would employ,” she told LBC. “But there are different aspects to this. Prorogation can take place in the event a general election is called, or a decision to prorogue at the end of a session. All of these things are very well established parliamentary procedures.

“Boris is quite clear we are going to leave the EU, we’re going to reunite the country, then we’re going to defeat Jeremy Corbyn. In that order. We need to get on with it.”

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/17/commons-showdown-looms-after-peers-pass-amendment-to-block-no-deal

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23 hours ago, Jazzy Jan said:

Not surprised that they are corrupt. Dreadful heartless people. 

All of them, every single one, brexiters, tories, labors, lib dem, all a bunch of lying chancers.... and this one is gonna be the next PM...

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What surprises me most... is that people are surprised by this. The way the English government is going at this rate, they ought to just put the Queen back in full charge and be done with it.

Johnson didn’t expect this. He wanted a narrow remain win, so that he could sweep up the support of the disappointed “leave” voters, as the SNP hoovered up the support of disappointed “yes” voters after their indy referendum. Now Boris is PM, as the British class system has taught him he deserves, but we can at least hope it will wreck him, his party, and the union he actually does profess to like.

Thoughts and Prayers to the UK. Glad I moved to Canada tbh

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7 hours ago, Jazzy Jan said:

Horrible.  How can the UK be proud of this buffoon being their leader ? 

Your guess is as good as mine. Probably those who support him see themselves in him. Utter joke, a shambolic political class this generation of vile rotten scumbags. And luck you @BrendanT1993! Well done

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