Camacho Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promise to try Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 3 hours ago, Magician said: and the eternal doubt with all the things concerning the USA helping the rest of the world: is this really needed? is this a way of making people think that the US army has to go there to help them? is this really necesary? crap. probably it is, but USa should stay in their country and not try to play with the rest of the countries to have cheap oil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 On 2/9/2019 at 9:17 AM, promise to try said: and the eternal doubt with all the things concerning the USA helping the rest of the world: is this really needed? is this a way of making people think that the US army has to go there to help them? is this really necesary? crap. probably it is, but USa should stay in their country and not try to play with the rest of the countries to have cheap oil Especially when they're building a wall and creating an immigration problem that 5 years ago didn't exist. Opportunistic and sheeer propaganda. Venezuela needs aid though. Maybe stopping the blocking would help?????? Anyway, if only fucking Maduro resigned and new free elections happened!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ULIZOS Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 On 2/10/2019 at 5:13 AM, karbatal said: Especially when they're building a wall and creating an immigration problem that 5 years ago didn't exist. Opportunistic and sheeer propaganda. Venezuela needs aid though. Maybe stopping the blocking would help?????? Anyway, if only fucking Maduro resigned and new free elections happened!!! Maduro is trash and Venezuela definitely needs help, but the U.S. and other imperialist powers (who are interested in one thing only) sending "help" at the border in the form of a toilet papar AKA a photo op is NOT going to help the situation. They need sanctions lifted. And if the U.S. cared so much they wouldn't have created this mess for millions of people in the form of sanctions after sanctions just to punish the mean old Socialists that made oil state-owned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windsor67 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 The evil of socialism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 43 minutes ago, windsor67 said: The evil of socialism the evil of dictatures. I believe that socialdemocracies are the answer to this world and that liberalism is the cause of most pain, tbqh. But in Venezuela's case it is a dictature, no matter the political sign. (although had it been a far-right dictature I am sure that there wouldn't have been so many problems with USA and other countries...). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 46 minutes ago, ULIZOS said: Maduro is trash and Venezuela definitely needs help, but the U.S. and other imperialist powers (who are interested in one thing only) sending "help" at the border in the form of a toilet papar AKA a photo op is NOT going to help the situation. They need sanctions lifted. And if the U.S. cared so much they wouldn't have created this mess for millions of people in the form of sanctions after sanctions just to punish the mean old Socialists that made oil state-owned. They are still doing it with Iranian people or North Korea. Even Russia. And here we are in the EU clapping like MONGS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windsor67 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 12 minutes ago, karbatal said: the evil of dictatures. I believe that socialdemocracies are the answer to this world and that liberalism is the cause of most pain, tbqh. But in Venezuela's case it is a dictature, no matter the political sign. (although had it been a far-right dictature I am sure that there wouldn't have been so many problems with USA and other countries...). I agree with you, but liberalism and capitalism are not the evils you make them to be, originally they are meant to carry anyone upwards while benefiting the economy and I believe in those principles. Our disapproval of US policies and of their ridiculous president should not cloud our judgment of these countries rampant with corruption and dictatorships since forever. I’ll choose the US model over any of them, capitalism can be a vector for democracy as it was always meant to be the same goes for the EU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windsor67 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 19 minutes ago, karbatal said: They are still doing it with Iranian people or North Korea. Even Russia. And here we are in the EU clapping like MONGS. The people of these three countries you name do not have a choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 1 minute ago, windsor67 said: The people of these three countries you name do not have a choice And yet, the people in Saudi Arabia are getting all the goods with zero sanctions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promise to try Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 I have been cheking the news when I was half asleep, and I saw images of Haiti, and I thought it was venezuela...and now that I´m awake I have a doubt: was haiti also helped by the us government? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camacho Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 What a puppet show. The heady whiff of another country's OIL reserves has wafted over to the US I see. It's what their foreign policy is based on...always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promise to try Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 is it me, or this time people aren´t buying the "let´s help this country and take over all the power and the oil that they´ve got"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 23 minutes ago, promise to try said: is it me, or this time people aren´t buying the "let´s help this country and take over all the power and the oil that they´ve got"? I think we in Spain are tired of the Venezuela issue (after they used it to attack Podemos for several years) and we're busy with our own political landscape. However, when I watch the news in ZDF (Germany), BTV (Bulgaria) and Channel 4 (UK) they regularly inform and the position is pro help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest eroticerotic Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 I am adamantly against socialism and anyone who supports it. it has been of no service to any country that has adapted it. This is a horrible situation in Venezuela. I hope they find a solution soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lolo Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 On 2/11/2019 at 7:57 PM, ULIZOS said: Maduro is trash and Venezuela definitely needs help, but the U.S. and other imperialist powers (who are interested in one thing only) sending "help" at the border in the form of a toilet papar AKA a photo op is NOT going to help the situation. They need sanctions lifted. And if the U.S. cared so much they wouldn't have created this mess for millions of people in the form of sanctions after sanctions just to punish the mean old Socialists that made oil state-owned. On 2/11/2019 at 8:43 PM, karbatal said: the evil of dictatures. I believe that socialdemocracies are the answer to this world and that liberalism is the cause of most pain, tbqh. But in Venezuela's case it is a dictature, no matter the political sign. (although had it been a far-right dictature I am sure that there wouldn't have been so many problems with USA and other countries...). On 2/11/2019 at 9:07 PM, karbatal said: And yet, the people in Saudi Arabia are getting all the goods with zero sanctions. Agree with all of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promise to try Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 On 2/24/2019 at 9:47 AM, karbatal said: I think we in Spain are tired of the Venezuela issue (after they used it to attack Podemos for several years) and we're busy with our own political landscape. However, when I watch the news in ZDF (Germany), BTV (Bulgaria) and Channel 4 (UK) they regularly inform and the position is pro help. when you say pro help is pro invasion? what is happening with the red cross that they are not going to help with this humanitarian campaign, because they say it´s not an humanitarian campain? and can USA attack venezuela, or even worse, use colombia to attack them using them, when russia and china are against it? would it be a new irak? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dany Targaryen Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 On 5/13/2017 at 6:26 AM, promise to try said: I have family in venezuela, and they are really divided... it´s incredible this is happening in a country with such quantity of natural resources...well, or maybe not.I really don´t have a lot of info about it, but it seems to me that Chavez and probably other latin american politicians wanted to change the system to improve their countries situation, and they have lost the battle long time ago.I guess it´s time to let Milton Friedman´s ideas enter Venezuela The "powers that be", always do that to naturally rich places, so they can buy everything for cheap. Literally every country with a lot of petrolium, or natural resources gets gutted and then sold for a dime. What I really mean by "powers that be" is the international banking cartels, which is the real authority globally. All Central Banks, including the Federal Reserve are PRIVATE banks, and they're all interconnected. I know this may sound really crazy if you're not well informed, but it's the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promise to try Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 it doesn´t sound crazy at all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 9 hours ago, promise to try said: when you say pro help is pro invasion? what is happening with the red cross that they are not going to help with this humanitarian campaign, because they say it´s not an humanitarian campain? and can USA attack venezuela, or even worse, use colombia to attack them using them, when russia and china are against it? would it be a new irak? I mean pro sending aid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camacho Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro tells ABC News' Tom Llamas the U.S. government is “trying to fabricate a crisis to justify political escalation and a military intervention in Venezuela to bring a war to South America." https://abcn.ws/2Tf4iat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promise to try Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 20 hours ago, Magician said: Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro tells ABC News' Tom Llamas the U.S. government is “trying to fabricate a crisis to justify political escalation and a military intervention in Venezuela to bring a war to South America." https://abcn.ws/2Tf4iat shit, the USA is making maduro look good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camacho Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 How Venezuela Descended Into Turmoil Published on Mar 1, 2019 Venezuela was once the wealthiest country in South America. Now it's in turmoil. President Nicolas Maduro faces a challenge from opposition leader Juan Guaido, who's attracting more and more support as the crisis drags on, both internationally and from Venezuela's military ranks. At the same time, inflation is spiking and unrest is reaching a fever pitch. Here's how we got to this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Je5u5 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 There's been a power outage in most of Venezuela since 5pm yesterday. Some cities (including many areas in Caracas) have been with no power for over 24h already. This is also affecting communications, hospitals, food storage and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promise to try Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 yes, suddenly they are not twitting anymore.and once again a doubt comes to my mind: is it really an internal problem that has created this power outage, or is it a way of the usa of making people angrier against maduro´s government? the only thing that appears on twitter about venezuela today is that former spanish president zapatero has a new house, and some are saying that maduro paid for it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camacho Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Published on Mar 9, 2019 Protests In Venezuela As Crisis Deepens With Lack Of Electricity The latest unrest in Venezuela comes after a nationwide blackout, which President Nicolas Maduro blamed on “American imperialism.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promise to try Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 this is going from being a mess to becoming hell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Je5u5 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 People are dying in the hospitals, many times without even being admitted. And due to the lack of electricity morgues and funerary houses are not working, which makes it an even sadder situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 9 hours ago, Je5u5 said: People are dying in the hospitals, many times without even being admitted. And due to the lack of electricity morgues and funerary houses are not working, which makes it an even sadder situation. How are you feeling, Jesús? It has to be so hard to witness this situation from the distance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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