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Camille Paglia talks Madonna AGAIN.

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I'm not even gonna watch this.

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Same. I'm so tired of these bitter old "intellectual" women preaching about ageing gracefully, acting your age, not being sexual and blah blah. They can all fuck off!

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Love reading interviews & hearing Paglia viewpoints on diverse subjects. Just don't agree with her on Madonna. Feel like she missed out on Madonna's interesting & amazing output during the entire nineties & into 00s.

Also, agree with others who feel she's just too hard on Madonna. Paglia takes her way too seriously. 

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I personally find that Paglia discredits herself on several occasions during this interview. She supposedly stands for women being strong, self-made warriors, and then comments like a teenage wannabe about those who do. She is a talker, not a doer. She is an observer, not a creator. She could have a few valid points with themes about not relying on tricks or looks to attract young fans (even though I don't think it was said directly) but she completely misses the point, and then drives home her internal conflict by citing her obsession with Real Housewives and the like. Are you kidding me? Madonna having plastic surgery while continuing to push buttons is somehow betrayal of her legacy, but old rich women having plastic surgery to one-up each other on a reality show is somehow a brilliant statement? In my opinion, she's shown herself to be a hack, and quite awkward with her semi-believable self deprecation and try-too-hard pandering to gay men. What the hell was that? And why does anyone care?

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I saw some Paglia today

 

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I'm not even gonna watch this.

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This. I have dinner to eat.

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I think some people just expect more from Madonna, she seems to have stopped evolving/reinventing herself and hasn't really changed her image or her hair since Music era. 

The Met Ball outfit was absolutely atrocious, it's not about having your ass hanging out but the overall look was a total hot mess! Not surprised at all that Anna Wintour didn't like it. 

I love Madonna and always will but I just wish she would get a bloody haircut and get out of these Barbra Streisand years she seems to be stuck in. 

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The fact is most people don't want older humans to be sexual anymore until they themselves reach that age and realize that they were part of a society building a sexual prison for their elders that they themselves would one day be placed into.

Madonna is simply saying, "I did not help build this social construct of neutered aging. I will not support it. And I will not go in it. So fuck off."

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I agree with her on one point: the videos have decreased in quality/thought/meaning. Her best videos are 1989-1999.

Agreed. I think 90's Madonna has some of her most rich, experimental videos of her career. I think that's what Camille was saying that the work has declined. She's given us some gems since then but a lot of it has either been (on tour/photoshoot/dancing in front of a wall) but it can be due to the fact videos aside from streaming/YouTube certifications aren't a huge thing as they were during the TRL era. Sure we get visual albums and all from other artists but I think M has shifted her focus to touring and those visuals are sometimes better than videos meant to support her album releases. I think with RH she seemed interested in videos again but I'd love for M to bring something truly left field when it comes to videos again. Bedtime Story is honestly one of those videos that takes several viewing to believe and understand imo.

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I can't @ some people here trying to defending Camille. This cunt thinks Madonna hasn't done a good thing since the mid-90s. Yes she hates ROL, Music, AL and COADF too. 

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I think some people just expect more from Madonna, she seems to have stopped evolving/reinventing herself and hasn't really changed her image or her hair since Music era. 

The Met Ball outfit was absolutely atrocious, it's not about having your ass hanging out but the overall look was a total hot mess! Not surprised at all that Anna Wintour didn't like it. 

I love Madonna and always will but I just wish she would get a bloody haircut and get out of these Barbra Streisand years she seems to be stuck in. 

How NICE that you've lurked here for 2 years and decided to make THIS your first post.

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I can't @ some people here trying to defending Camille. This cunt thinks Madonna hasn't done a good thing since the mid-90s. Yes she hates ROL, Music, AL and COADF too. 

 

 

Camille Pag who? I thought that whore died! NOBODY CARES.

Same here. She is saying everything we would be criticising the likes of Pathetic Piers for.  Her comments about Madonna, her work, how she has not aged gracefully, has wrecked her legacy etc is something that goes against everything we believe in. She is a sexist ageist hypocrite and her words are demeaning and vicious towards Madonna and other women.  No excuses for her whatsoever. She has not liked Madonna for years and is a bitter nasty know it all. Madonna has done more for women in her life with her music and fearless attitude than Camille will ever do with her judgements on other women. 

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Madonna should name the next album "TRAVESTY!"

 

 

"It's a travesty...with you I have no choice..."

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Can you imagine how much we would all be scolded in this thread if a certain somebody was still here......:newspaper:

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How NICE that you've lurked here for 2 years and decided to make THIS your first post.

Wow okay.. It's actually my second post and I haven't been 'lurking' I just don't have time to post.

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Camille is awful now (at least about Madonna).  She is so predictable.  It's pathetic.

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Pud loves her

I like her too. But for some strange reason she has a personal vendetta against Madonna and looses it when talking about her. Other than that I always enjoyed her lashing out, she was perfectly on point about Gaga.

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Pud loves her

she has interesting opinions aside from her weird madonna vendetta. we can't all agree about everything

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Madonna should name the next album "TRAVESTY!"

 

 

Too easy for her detractors to use especially if it isn't a commercial or critical return for her.

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she has interesting opinions aside from her weird madonna vendetta. we can't all agree about everything

I like her. But no one's opinion matters more than mine.

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I can't @ some people here trying to defending Camille. This cunt thinks Madonna hasn't done a good thing since the mid-90s. Yes she hates ROL, Music, AL and COADF too. 

She's a fan with shitty feelings about the direction of Madonna's career. How is she any different than any of us except she's a famous person?

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