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I haven't paid any attention to Sheryl Crow since I was in the 7th grade when she used to be popular. 

 

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That Danuta video should be in the Guggenheim!  

Maybe @XXLcan tell us more about this Italian wonderful forgotten gem???? 

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have you seen lance armstrong liking pud's comment dragging sheryl? :lmao:

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That Danuta video should be in the Guggenheim!  

Maybe @XXLcan tell us more about this Italian wonderful forgotten gem???? 

 

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:laugh:

 

Among the 80s C-list local two hit wonders Italian pop trash pantheon I only remember Sabrina Salerno and Jo Squillo

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have you seen lance armstrong liking pud's comment dragging sheryl? :lmao:

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:lmao:

 

He probably has a lot of dirt on this fake hypocritical Crow. Used him as long as he was riding high ... Another thing Madonna has never done, not in her career nor in her private life. But Sheryl holier than thou is welcome to her transparency, bitterness and hypocrisy

All the Annie Lennox, Suzanne Vegas and Sheryl Crows of the world should feel free to continue scolding Madonna and claiming their supposed superiority and more dignified stand in the world, never mind Madonna has had a career 1000 times bigger without owing it to any puppetteer or industry marriage or pushy parents with contacts, besides being a woman to have actually walked the walk and to have done more to embrace a discourse on what it actually means to be valued as a woman in an age old heterosexual white man's world than any of those self-styled feminists, daughters of the worst 70s branch of feminism, i.e. "dress like a man and pretend you don't have a sexuality", nothing more pernicious and ridiculously false

What all these judgemental entitled know-it-all ladies have done for minorities, racism and the exposure and the appreciation of lgbt themes is a matter that history has already judged, unbeknownst to them and their outrageously inflated egos, and the answer is a big fat nothing

Madonna was receiving death threats throughout her career and especially in the early 90s from people who have a Mike Pence mindset and ironically are now in charge of what is supposed to be the most aware, culturally advanced country on Earth. Where were you and what were you doing when that was happening Annie Lennox or Sheryl Crow? Now sit your ass down

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Sheryl Crow’s War on Madonna and ‘Sexual’ Pop Stars Pits Women Against Women

Policing how women behave doesn’t advance feminism

By  • 04/27/17 7:00am
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Sheryl Crow performs during the American Country Awards. Ethan Miller/Getty Images

In a recent interview with Dan Rather, who shared some of Madonna’s recent speech on misogyny from the Billboard Music Awards, Sheryl Crow hinted that Madonna and other female pop stars damage the image of women when they use sex as a “form of power” in their “business form.”

This kind of slut-shaming is surprising coming from Sheryl Crow, a woman who has defended all types of liberal feminist causes throughout her career. Even though Crow said she wouldn’t put it “all on Madonna,” the Queen of Pop’s fans were furious and took to Twitter to let Crow know what they thought.

 

 

Madonna’s fans noted that the “Like a Prayer” crooner has never presented herself as an object of men’s sexual desires; she presents herself as the conductor of her own—something that has always bothered heterosexual men. The provocateur helped take something that males controlled for centuries and turned it on them. Because of Madonna, women are allowed to want to “get laid.” This was something completely looked down upon just 25 years ago.

 
 
 
 
 

 

Unfortunately, Madonna’s sex-forwardness has made her an easy target. How many times have we read that Madonna “ruined it all for women” or she was “a horrible role model” who taught girls to be sluts? Madonna has fit the “degrading woman” label many have given her in very few instances (SEX book, performance with Drake at Coachella).

One also cannot deny there is some truth to Crow’s interview when it comes to women in the industry as a whole. For every Madonna and Beyonce, there is a Britney Spears and Miley Cyrus. To be sure, both pop stars are great entertainers, but they have rarely presented any type of sexual power beyond “Look at me! Watch me take off my clothes!”

One could argue that there has been—and continues to be—a complete double standard in the music industry, which Madonna touched upon in her Billboard speech.

“If you’re a girl, you have to play the game. You’re allowed to be pretty and cute and sexy. But don’t act too smart. Don’t have an opinion that’s out of line with the status quo. You are allowed to be objectified by men and dress like a slut, but don’t own your sluttiness,” the “Rebel Heart” singer told the audience, adding that Prince and others have been able to get away with things women haven’t.

Anybody who grew up in the 1980s and 1990s knows the double standard. Prince was certainly criticized for his sexually explicit songs and videos early in his career, but he was never a pariah accused of “ruining young boys.” Remember when the Parent’s Resource Music Center brutally criticized Madonna’s relatively innocent songs such as “Like a Virgin” and “Dress You Up,” but had nothing to say about Bruce Springsteen’s hit “I’m on Fire,” which was released around the same time period? The highly-sexualized song talked about “waking up at night with the sheets soaking wet” among other things. Was Bruce ever accused of making young boys victims of their teenage desires?

One could add Donna Summer, Sheila E, and Christina Aguilera to the list of the slut-shamed. Early on, Beyonce was also a target of the double standard. And we can never forget about Janet Jackson.

Janet’s Super Bowl Halftimeperformance with Justin Timberlake in 2004 is what many consider ground zero for sexual double standards. The uncovering of her nipple became one of the biggest events in entertainment history. Sure, Janet shouldn’t have been immune from any criticism, but it produced a torrent of slut-shaming, body-shaming and “moral” shaming that destructed Jackson’s career like a wrecking ball.

Jackson received the brunt of the backlash from the American public and the network while Justin Timberlake remained relatively unscathed. Wasn’t Justin the one who ripped her clothing to reveal the breast? Did those who accuse Janet of spreading the wrong message to young women say the same about Justin negatively influencing young men?

The sexist double standard still exists. While Miley Cyrus’ performance at the 2013 VMAs was certainly ridiculous, the public and the media resorted to slut-shaming the singer and accused her of being a poor role model. As Crushablenoted weeks after the performance, Miley rightfully pointed out that barely anybody criticized Robin Thicke, the man “behind the booty.”

Unlike the stars previously mentioned, Sheryl Crow has not used her sexuality as a main element in her act, but she has used it in ways that make people think she’s being hypocritical. There are pictures showing Crow on stage submitting to John Mayer with a bikinias well as one where she grinds up against Kid Rock, touching his buttocks. Let’s not forget that Sheryl began her career touring with the Rolling Stones, a band who oozes sexuality in their performances.

Sheryl Crow is a passionate and talented woman with a catalog of hits that have stood the test of time. She has also turned her breast cancer scare into an open dialogue. But Crow is wrong in thinking she’s helping feminist causes by policing how women should behave. Furthermore, she is aligning herself with men who have tried to do the same. Before criticizing other women in the music industry, Sheryl Crow needs to take a long look at herself and how her words could hurt women more than their artistic desires ever could.

 

http://observer.com/2017/04/sheryl-crow-madonna-slut-shaming-feminism/

 

 

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Sheryl Crow’s War on Madonna and ‘Sexual’ Pop Stars Pits Women Against Women

Policing how women behave doesn’t advance feminism

By  • 04/27/17 7:00am
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Sheryl Crow performs during the American Country Awards. Ethan Miller/Getty Images

In a recent interview with Dan Rather, who shared some of Madonna’s recent speech on misogyny from the Billboard Music Awards, Sheryl Crow hinted that Madonna and other female pop stars damage the image of women when they use sex as a “form of power” in their “business form.”

This kind of slut-shaming is surprising coming from Sheryl Crow, a woman who has defended all types of liberal feminist causes throughout her career. Even though Crow said she wouldn’t put it “all on Madonna,” the Queen of Pop’s fans were furious and took to Twitter to let Crow know what they thought.

 

 

Madonna’s fans noted that the “Like a Prayer” crooner has never presented herself as an object of men’s sexual desires; she presents herself as the conductor of her own—something that has always bothered heterosexual men. The provocateur helped take something that males controlled for centuries and turned it on them. Because of Madonna, women are allowed to want to “get laid.” This was something completely looked down upon just 25 years ago.

 
 
 
 
 

 

Unfortunately, Madonna’s sex-forwardness has made her an easy target. How many times have we read that Madonna “ruined it all for women” or she was “a horrible role model” who taught girls to be sluts? Madonna has fit the “degrading woman” label many have given her in very few instances (SEX book, performance with Drake at Coachella).

One also cannot deny there is some truth to Crow’s interview when it comes to women in the industry as a whole. For every Madonna and Beyonce, there is a Britney Spears and Miley Cyrus. To be sure, both pop stars are great entertainers, but they have rarely presented any type of sexual power beyond “Look at me! Watch me take off my clothes!”

One could argue that there has been—and continues to be—a complete double standard in the music industry, which Madonna touched upon in her Billboard speech.

“If you’re a girl, you have to play the game. You’re allowed to be pretty and cute and sexy. But don’t act too smart. Don’t have an opinion that’s out of line with the status quo. You are allowed to be objectified by men and dress like a slut, but don’t own your sluttiness,” the “Rebel Heart” singer told the audience, adding that Prince and others have been able to get away with things women haven’t.

Anybody who grew up in the 1980s and 1990s knows the double standard. Prince was certainly criticized for his sexually explicit songs and videos early in his career, but he was never a pariah accused of “ruining young boys.” Remember when the Parent’s Resource Music Center brutally criticized Madonna’s relatively innocent songs such as “Like a Virgin” and “Dress You Up,” but had nothing to say about Bruce Springsteen’s hit “I’m on Fire,” which was released around the same time period? The highly-sexualized song talked about “waking up at night with the sheets soaking wet” among other things. Was Bruce ever accused of making young boys victims of their teenage desires?

One could add Donna Summer, Sheila E, and Christina Aguilera to the list of the slut-shamed. Early on, Beyonce was also a target of the double standard. And we can never forget about Janet Jackson.

Janet’s Super Bowl Halftimeperformance with Justin Timberlake in 2004 is what many consider ground zero for sexual double standards. The uncovering of her nipple became one of the biggest events in entertainment history. Sure, Janet shouldn’t have been immune from any criticism, but it produced a torrent of slut-shaming, body-shaming and “moral” shaming that destructed Jackson’s career like a wrecking ball.

Jackson received the brunt of the backlash from the American public and the network while Justin Timberlake remained relatively unscathed. Wasn’t Justin the one who ripped her clothing to reveal the breast? Did those who accuse Janet of spreading the wrong message to young women say the same about Justin negatively influencing young men?

The sexist double standard still exists. While Miley Cyrus’ performance at the 2013 VMAs was certainly ridiculous, the public and the media resorted to slut-shaming the singer and accused her of being a poor role model. As Crushablenoted weeks after the performance, Miley rightfully pointed out that barely anybody criticized Robin Thicke, the man “behind the booty.”

Unlike the stars previously mentioned, Sheryl Crow has not used her sexuality as a main element in her act, but she has used it in ways that make people think she’s being hypocritical. There are pictures showing Crow on stage submitting to John Mayer with a bikinias well as one where she grinds up against Kid Rock, touching his buttocks. Let’s not forget that Sheryl began her career touring with the Rolling Stones, a band who oozes sexuality in their performances.

Sheryl Crow is a passionate and talented woman with a catalog of hits that have stood the test of time. She has also turned her breast cancer scare into an open dialogue. But Crow is wrong in thinking she’s helping feminist causes by policing how women should behave. Furthermore, she is aligning herself with men who have tried to do the same. Before criticizing other women in the music industry, Sheryl Crow needs to take a long look at herself and how her words could hurt women more than their artistic desires ever could.

 

http://observer.com/2017/04/sheryl-crow-madonna-slut-shaming-feminism/

 

 

Amen!!!!! It's baffling how she totally misses the plot on this issue along with other women in the business in general. 

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The Observer nailed!  

Except for the sentence "we can never forget about Janet Jackson" 

YES WE CAN! 

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Sheryl Crow’s War on Madonna and ‘Sexual’ Pop Stars Pits Women Against Women

Policing how women behave doesn’t advance feminism

By  • 04/27/17 7:00am
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gettyimages 454961509 Sheryl Crow’s War on Madonna and ‘Sexual’ Pop Stars Pits Women Against Women

Sheryl Crow performs during the American Country Awards. Ethan Miller/Getty Images

In a recent interview with Dan Rather, who shared some of Madonna’s recent speech on misogyny from the Billboard Music Awards, Sheryl Crow hinted that Madonna and other female pop stars damage the image of women when they use sex as a “form of power” in their “business form.”

This kind of slut-shaming is surprising coming from Sheryl Crow, a woman who has defended all types of liberal feminist causes throughout her career. Even though Crow said she wouldn’t put it “all on Madonna,” the Queen of Pop’s fans were furious and took to Twitter to let Crow know what they thought.

 

 

Madonna’s fans noted that the “Like a Prayer” crooner has never presented herself as an object of men’s sexual desires; she presents herself as the conductor of her own—something that has always bothered heterosexual men. The provocateur helped take something that males controlled for centuries and turned it on them. Because of Madonna, women are allowed to want to “get laid.” This was something completely looked down upon just 25 years ago.

 
 
 
 
 

 

Unfortunately, Madonna’s sex-forwardness has made her an easy target. How many times have we read that Madonna “ruined it all for women” or she was “a horrible role model” who taught girls to be sluts? Madonna has fit the “degrading woman” label many have given her in very few instances (SEX book, performance with Drake at Coachella).

One also cannot deny there is some truth to Crow’s interview when it comes to women in the industry as a whole. For every Madonna and Beyonce, there is a Britney Spears and Miley Cyrus. To be sure, both pop stars are great entertainers, but they have rarely presented any type of sexual power beyond “Look at me! Watch me take off my clothes!”

One could argue that there has been—and continues to be—a complete double standard in the music industry, which Madonna touched upon in her Billboard speech.

“If you’re a girl, you have to play the game. You’re allowed to be pretty and cute and sexy. But don’t act too smart. Don’t have an opinion that’s out of line with the status quo. You are allowed to be objectified by men and dress like a slut, but don’t own your sluttiness,” the “Rebel Heart” singer told the audience, adding that Prince and others have been able to get away with things women haven’t.

Anybody who grew up in the 1980s and 1990s knows the double standard. Prince was certainly criticized for his sexually explicit songs and videos early in his career, but he was never a pariah accused of “ruining young boys.” Remember when the Parent’s Resource Music Center brutally criticized Madonna’s relatively innocent songs such as “Like a Virgin” and “Dress You Up,” but had nothing to say about Bruce Springsteen’s hit “I’m on Fire,” which was released around the same time period? The highly-sexualized song talked about “waking up at night with the sheets soaking wet” among other things. Was Bruce ever accused of making young boys victims of their teenage desires?

One could add Donna Summer, Sheila E, and Christina Aguilera to the list of the slut-shamed. Early on, Beyonce was also a target of the double standard. And we can never forget about Janet Jackson.

Janet’s Super Bowl Halftimeperformance with Justin Timberlake in 2004 is what many consider ground zero for sexual double standards. The uncovering of her nipple became one of the biggest events in entertainment history. Sure, Janet shouldn’t have been immune from any criticism, but it produced a torrent of slut-shaming, body-shaming and “moral” shaming that destructed Jackson’s career like a wrecking ball.

Jackson received the brunt of the backlash from the American public and the network while Justin Timberlake remained relatively unscathed. Wasn’t Justin the one who ripped her clothing to reveal the breast? Did those who accuse Janet of spreading the wrong message to young women say the same about Justin negatively influencing young men?

The sexist double standard still exists. While Miley Cyrus’ performance at the 2013 VMAs was certainly ridiculous, the public and the media resorted to slut-shaming the singer and accused her of being a poor role model. As Crushablenoted weeks after the performance, Miley rightfully pointed out that barely anybody criticized Robin Thicke, the man “behind the booty.”

Unlike the stars previously mentioned, Sheryl Crow has not used her sexuality as a main element in her act, but she has used it in ways that make people think she’s being hypocritical. There are pictures showing Crow on stage submitting to John Mayer with a bikinias well as one where she grinds up against Kid Rock, touching his buttocks. Let’s not forget that Sheryl began her career touring with the Rolling Stones, a band who oozes sexuality in their performances.

Sheryl Crow is a passionate and talented woman with a catalog of hits that have stood the test of time. She has also turned her breast cancer scare into an open dialogue. But Crow is wrong in thinking she’s helping feminist causes by policing how women should behave. Furthermore, she is aligning herself with men who have tried to do the same. Before criticizing other women in the music industry, Sheryl Crow needs to take a long look at herself and how her words could hurt women more than their artistic desires ever could.

 

http://observer.com/2017/04/sheryl-crow-madonna-slut-shaming-feminism/

 

 

What a SPOT ON article. God bless. 

 

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The Observer nailed!  

Except for the sentence "we can never forget about Janet Jackson" 

YES WE CAN! 

:chuckle: 

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LOVE u sheryl but you a dumbass

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Sheryl Crow’s War on Madonna and ‘Sexual’ Pop Stars Pits Women Against Women
Policing how women behave doesn’t advance feminism
http://observer.com/2017/04/sheryl-crow-madonna-slut-shaming-feminism/

Great article.

It really is disappointing that people like Cyndi Lauper, Debbie Harry and Sheryl Crow have all resorted to criticizing not just Madonna's speech at the Women's March, but Madonna herself.

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Sheryl who? Never heard of her.

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Surprised no one posted or commented that she was on Andy Cohen within the last week and tried to do damage control. Said she's aware of the 'backlash' and instantly tried to downplay it. Said she respects Madonna and mumbled something else complimentary but whether it was sincere or not, she clearly looked taken back like she truly didn't mean to start shit. Played the role it was totally taken out of context and Anne Hathaway (the other guest) said the media is obsessed with woman being pitted against other women. From what I saw and heard I actually believed Sheryl her but that was just my analysis of it. Sheryl doesn't at all come across like passive aggresive, phony shade queen like Gaga, Sharon O, Wendy Williams etc etc...Many here would prob. still think it's not be enough though lol Botton line..there's WAY worse M hating asses out there than Sheryl Crow lol

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Surprised no one posted or commented that she was on Andy Cohen within the last week and tried to do damage control. Said she's aware of the 'backlash' and instantly tried to downplay it. Said she respects Madonna and mumbled something else complimentary but whether it was sincere or not, she clearly looked taken back like she truly didn't mean to start shit. Played the role it was totally taken out of context and Anne Hathaway (the other guest) said the media is obsessed with woman being pitted against other women. From what I saw and heard I actually believed Sheryl her but that was just my analysis of it. Sheryl doesn't at all come across like passive aggresive, phony shade queen like Gaga, Sharon O, Wendy Williams etc etc...Many here would prob. still think it's not be enough though lol Botton line..there's WAY worse M hating asses out there than Sheryl Crow lol

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I know.  Also what Anne said was wrong in this case.  The media were not trying to "pit two women against each other"  with the previous interview. Sheryl said what she said, it was not a media fuelled thing.  It would of been just as easy for Sheryl to have said she liked the speech previously or that she simply had not heard it. 

Great points. Yeah..after watching it again looks more like she was in got 'caught'/ boxed in mode and wanted the story to just go away. My bad though...I honestly stopped reading this thread after like the third page lol so didn't mean to post something that was already covered. Um..yeah thats ALL she needed to say to Dan Rather now that I think about it (she didn't hear it etc...) :/. Again...this is Hollywood, record biz etc..and she still said what she said and isn't an idiot. She's a veteran now and couldn't have possibly thought it wouldn't have given her publicity. That said...again, I still feel there's way way worse than this woman! lol 

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I do not know if it is only me but I get so offended when Janet Jackson is mentioned like some Madonna peer. Who is she? Not only can we forget about Janet Jackson, we MUST. 

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Sheryl Crow? Is she still around?  She is nothing but an irrelevent has-been.I always felt that her music was boring.

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Surprised no one posted or commented that she was on Andy Cohen within the last week and tried to do damage control. Said she's aware of the 'backlash' and instantly tried to downplay it. Said she respects Madonna and mumbled something else complimentary but whether it was sincere or not, she clearly looked taken back like she truly didn't mean to start shit. Played the role it was totally taken out of context and Anne Hathaway (the other guest) said the media is obsessed with woman being pitted against other women. From what I saw and heard I actually believed Sheryl her but that was just my analysis of it. Sheryl doesn't at all come across like passive aggresive, phony shade queen like Gaga, Sharon O, Wendy Williams etc etc...Many here would prob. still think it's not be enough though lol Botton line..there's WAY worse M hating asses out there than Sheryl Crow lol

I know many people who are good friends of mine who share the same view as sheryl. they're not jealous or bitter or any of that, they just have this idea that when a woman is sexual in pop culture (or uses it to sell). there seems to be this idea that they're not talented or smart. what they really should be saying is that they dont like the britneys or mariahs.. madonna is different. so it's based on ignorance. who knows, maybe she was pushed to show her body more and it wasn't her thing.. maybe she never thought about the possibility that madonna chooses to do that herself (though @ the same time i think she's been around long enough to know that M isn't like those other girls.. hmm..)

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So did all this help her new album go #1 ?

Cheap trick I see.

Really sad to see what this woman has turned to, but I guess she needs to eat and pay the bills. 

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