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POLL: What should have been the fifth single from "Like a Prayer?"

What should have been "Like a Prayer"'s fifth single?  

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  1. 1. What should have been "Like a Prayer"'s fifth single?

    • Love Song
      6
    • Till Death Do Us Part
      36
    • Promise to Try
      6
    • Dear Jessie / Oh Father (each released in areas where the other had already been released)
      5
    • Keep It Together
      36
    • Spanish Eyes
      33
    • Act of Contrition
      0


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3 hours ago, Robin said:

one of those albums i enjoy but cant relate to some of the songs.

i voted for keep it together!!

Yes, I totally understand how you would feel like that.  Songs that describe certain experiences or issues can be hard to relate for others who have never experienced those issues.  We are naturally drawn emotionally to songs that speak to us or what we have experienced.   Why I think songs about love and heartbreak are usually always the singles that are picked by record companies etc as everyone has been through it and can relate.  Why though that songs dealing with unusual or painful topics stand out so much and are so memorable to people who have been through it.   Like a Prayer is her most personal album - it deals with her mother's death, her painful relationship with her father and toxic marriage.  Was a huge moment for her as a recording artist and very brave. 

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Out of all singles of LAP I love Dear Jessie the most..it was such a huge hit!

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5 hours ago, mynameisdita said:

Tough to choose between Lovesong and Keep it Together, but I ultimately chose Lovesong. I would have loved to have seen Madonna's vision realized of a music video with Prince. I once read she came up with an idea for a video inspired by the introduction to Hiroshima Mon Amour to be directed by Mondino. Would have been so beautiful.

Lovesong?! It's the most boring song ever. I can't imagine it doing very well as a single.

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10 hours ago, dollhouse said:

Out of all singles of LAP I love Dear Jessie the most..it was such a huge hit!

natalia-kills-gif_2015-03-19_04-41-18.giLike a Prayer is her best song and it's better than Vogue!

 

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Keep It Together WAS the fifth single in the UK and US....

Anyway, I would have released Spanish Eyes (Love Song as B-Side) as the fourth single and Dear Jessie/Oh Father (as a combo just like it is on the album for a sixth single. 

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14 minutes ago, mnino said:

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Keep It Together WAS the fifth single in the UK and US....

Anyway, I would have released Spanish Eyes (Love Song as B-Side) as the fourth single and Dear Jessie/Oh Father (as a combo just like it is on the album for a sixth single. 

Signed! But what about Till JESUS Do Us Part? The hit that got away?

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4 minutes ago, S.E.X. said:

Signed! But what about Till JESUS Do Us Part? The hit that got away?

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I think that TDDUP would have been a perfect double A-side to Cherish. Both are similar musically but so opposite lyrically. It would have been like the light and dark side of the moon. :)

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3 minutes ago, mnino said:

I think that TDDUP would have been a perfect double A-side to Cherish. Both are similar musically but so opposite lyrically. It would have been like the light and dark side of the moon. :)

Approved! Maybe this could have stopped Tranet from blocking M. 

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Just now, mnino said:

I think that TDDUP would have been a perfect double A-side to Cherish. Both are similar musically but so opposite lyrically. It would have been like the light and dark side of the moon. :)

I see what you mean but they are such opposites.  TDDUP is the most chilling song about domestic violence and a toxic marriages you can hear  (  alongside Toni Child's "  I've got to go now" )   and Cherish is the most joyful love song imaginable.  Mnino, I think they are too much the opposite really.  The arrangement of TDDUP is brilliant and makes it even more sad - the misleading way it is presented.  So ahead of it's time in every way.  

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6 minutes ago, jazzyjan said:

I see what you mean but they are such opposites.  TDDUP is the most chilling song about domestic violence and a toxic marriages you can hear  (  alongside Toni Child's "  I've got to go now" )   and Cherish is the most joyful love song imaginable.  Mnino, I think they are too much the opposite really.  The arrangement of TDDUP is brilliant and makes it even more sad - the misleading way it is presented.  So ahead of it's time in every way.  

That's why I think it could work. You see, I'm thinking of an actual record here in which you would have to manually change sides. Cherish is the decision to take it to another level, to have more than casual encounters... to have a burning love. TDDUP is what happens when that love actually burns. Not all love affairs end up that way but hers did so I think it could have worked. 

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1 minute ago, mnino said:

That's why I think it could work. You see, I'm thinking of an actual record here in which you would have to manually change sides. Cherish is the decision to take it to another level, to have more than casual encounters... to have a burning love. TDDUP is what happens when that love actually burns. Not all love affairs end up that way but hers did so I think it could have worked. 

Very interesting and well thought out.  Personally,  I think it might have tainted Cherish because it is so innocent and joyful but I do like your reasoning behind it. 

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12 minutes ago, jazzyjan said:

Very interesting and well thought out.  Personally,  I think it might have tainted Cherish because it is so innocent and joyful but I do like your reasoning behind it. 

I can see that. Maybe it would have worked out better with EY. I don't EVER want to taint Cherish. That's the song I sang to my then fiance at our engagement party... :inlove:

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10 minutes ago, mnino said:

I can see that. Maybe it would have worked out better with EY. I don't EVER want to taint Cherish. That's the song I sang to my then fiance at our engagement party... :inlove:

:inlove:   The perfect song to sing.  

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7 hours ago, mnino said:

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Keep It Together WAS the fifth single in the UK and US....

Anyway, I would have released Spanish Eyes (Love Song as B-Side) as the fourth single and Dear Jessie/Oh Father (as a combo just like it is on the album for a sixth single. 

"KIT" was not released in the UK or in Europe generally. It did chart in some countries based on import sales. And it's possible that, being that she was such a star at the time, the song got radio play the same way "Where's the Party" did in 86-87, but it saw no single release. You can Google this if you don't believe me ...

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14 minutes ago, material_boy said:

"KIT" was not released in the UK or in Europe generally. It did chart in some countries based on import sales. And it's possible that, being that she was such a star at the time, the song got radio play the same way "Where's the Party" did in 86-87, but it saw no single release. You can Google this if you don't believe me ...

This is the round where you have to do the most 'splaining :rotfl: 

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This album did get tricky after Cherish. I  put KIT, because that song NEEDED a video, and it will have been a great song/video to say goodbye to the 80's / hello  to the 90's - and as someone posted her with the dark bob hair - PERFECTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Was Australia the only country that got all 6 singles released in one way or another? We had LAP, EY, Cherish, then Oh Father, Dear Jessie and then Vogue/Keep It Together.

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10 hours ago, material_boy said:

"KIT" was not released in the UK or in Europe generally. It did chart in some countries based on import sales. And it's possible that, being that she was such a star at the time, the song got radio play the same way "Where's the Party" did in 86-87, but it saw no single release. You can Google this if you don't believe me ...

You're right. I believe you. 

My bad.

#flopfan

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11 hours ago, Bretticus said:

Was Australia the only country that got all 6 singles released in one way or another? We had LAP, EY, Cherish, then Oh Father, Dear Jessie and then Vogue/Keep It Together.

Oh, did Australia get both "Oh Father" and "Dear Jessie" in 1989? I didn't know that! I guess that I always just assumed "OF"'s Aussie chart #s were from a 1996 release.

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Till Death Do Us Part should have been the 5th.

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6 hours ago, material_boy said:

Oh, did Australia get both "Oh Father" and "Dear Jessie" in 1989? I didn't know that! I guess that I always just assumed "OF"'s Aussie chart #s were from a 1996 release.

Yes we got both, but in 1990! Both flopped though :( 

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In the UK I was expecting Oh Father to be be released early 1990. Then in HMV Oxford Street in February I bought an import of Keep It Together so I thought this might be the next single. The following day I read in Smash Hits magazine Vogue was the next single. I wonder if the low position of Oh Father in USA changed any plans. Maybe some Double A side singles should have been released.

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On 09/03/2017 at 2:51 AM, material_boy said:

Oh, did Australia get both "Oh Father" and "Dear Jessie" in 1989? I didn't know that! I guess that I always just assumed "OF"'s Aussie chart #s were from a 1996 release.

 

We got OF in November 1989 and then DJ in March 1990 (sorry to contradict Bretticus below).  OF peaked at #59 and DJ at #51.  I believe we were the only territory to have all six singles officially released (I suspect NZ is in the same boat as us).  It was the same with "Erotica" - we ended up with all six international singles released here.  I have to say, though, that KIT was largely ignored in favour of "Vogue" (unlike the ITG/Angel scenario, in which "Angel" was a hit in its own right - just nowhere near as big as ITG).  "Vogue" was MASSIVE, but KIT was barely given any airplay at all.

No one has mentioned that Madonna wrote "Vogue" specifically as a B-side for KIT, so clearly, Warners knew they'd be releasing it far enough in advance for Madonna to write and record a completely new song for the B-side (which they subsequently rejected, for obvious reasons!).  I don't think it's a case of them rush releasing it because of OF, but they probably released "Vogue" slightly earlier than intended because of the short chart life of OF.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Carta said:

 

We got OF in November 1989 and then DJ in March 1990 (sorry to contradict Bretticus below).  OF peaked at #59 and DJ at #51.  I believe we were the only territory to have all six singles officially released (I suspect NZ is in the same boat as us).  It was the same with "Erotica" - we ended up with all six international singles released here.  I have to say, though, that KIT was largely ignored in favour of "Vogue" (unlike the ITG/Angel scenario, in which "Angel" was a hit in its own right - just nowhere near as big as ITG).  "Vogue" was MASSIVE, but KIT was barely given any airplay at all.

No one has mentioned that Madonna wrote "Vogue" specifically as a B-side for KIT, so clearly, Warners knew they'd be releasing it far enough in advance for Madonna to write and record a completely new song for the B-side (which they subsequently rejected, for obvious reasons!).  I don't think it's a case of them rush releasing it because of OF, but they probably released "Vogue" slightly earlier than intended because of the short chart life of OF.

 

 

We were really spoiled in Oz for Madonna in 1989 and 1990, so many singles! 

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On 7. maaliskuuta 2017 at 8:21 PM, S.E.X. said:

natalia-kills-gif_2015-03-19_04-41-18.giLike a Prayer is her best song and it's better than Vogue!

 

No. Vogue has been voted as her "signature song".

 

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On 8. maaliskuuta 2017 at 6:21 AM, Willie said:

This album did get tricky after Cherish. I  put KIT, because that song NEEDED a video, and it will have been a great song/video to say goodbye to the 80's / hello  to the 90's - and as someone posted her with the dark bob hair - PERFECTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Blonde Ambition performance was WILDLY used as KIT video.

AND it was shown REGULARLY also in MTV Europe as the 5th single from LAP.

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On 6. maaliskuuta 2017 at 8:59 PM, material_boy said:

"KIT" was only released in the U.S. and Japan, and it had a double-A side release with "Vogue" in Australia. The vast majority of the world never saw a fifth single from the album.

The US and Japan are the biggest music markets in the world.

And it had a release in Canada, Australia, New Zealand, (Italy?) too. 

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1 hour ago, dollhouse said:

The Blonde Ambition performance was WILDLY used as KIT video.

AND it was shown REGULARLY also in MTV Europe as the 5th single from LAP.

That's not even possible! :lol: 

"Keep it Together" was released in January 1990 in the few countries that saw its release. "Vogue" was released in March. The BAT started April 13. Yokohama -- the first show recorded for release, and the first show from which a live video could be made -- was April 26. "I'm Breathless" was released May 22.

Madonna was such a phenomenon at the time that it's possible "KIT" got airplay on radio in 89/90 the same way "Where's the Party" did in 86/87 -- and "KIT" did hit a few European charts on the strength of import sales of the U.S. single -- but the idea that "KIT" was promoted as a single to "LAP" after the release of "Vogue" and well into Warner's "I'm Breathless" campaign is nonsense. Chances are that MTV Europe just picked up whatever BAT clips they could and ran them, be it "KIT" or "Hanky Panky" or "Holiday" or "Express Yourself."

 

1 hour ago, dollhouse said:

The US and Japan are the biggest music markets in the world.

And it had a release in Canada, Australia, New Zealand, (Italy?) too. 

Not having this argument again. Read the rest of the thread, honey.

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Honestly, she should have done a video for Keep It Together during the rehearsals for BAT. Kind of like a BTS video with her and her dancers fooling around and practicing the choreography and stuff.

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US

1. Like a Prayer

2. Express Yourself

3. Cherish

4. Oh Father

5. TDDUP

WORLDWIDE

6. Keep It Together

AUSTRALIA/JAPAN ONL7

7. Pray For Spanish Eyes

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