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16 hours ago, GOD said:

are they still trying to impeach him?

Yes.  Schumer is still trying, but unfortunately the Susan Rice NON SCANDAL has taken the media narrative for now. 

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14 hours ago, Jaz said:

Yes.  Schumer is still trying, but unfortunately the Susan Rice NON SCANDAL has taken the media narrative for now. 

It only exists as loudly as the Reichbart/Fox News bubble can scream their tune.  When "that lady asked for the identities of Americans caught talking to foreign agents under FISA warrant surveillance to be revealed to her, what a shocking sandal!" is the best you can conjure, you know you're up shit creek without a paddle.  Pay no attention to the treason, the bureaucratic particulars of SIGINT are the real story here :lmao:

 

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Im ready for war. If Emperor Trump declares war ( which congress decides) im signing up yall SJW's need to grow up. 

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According to the IBD poll (one of the very few who predicted he would WIN in '16) says he's down to 34% in popularity LOL. and rapidly and f'king FINALLY losing some of those sheep idiot white men who previously worshiped this hippo no matter what he did! Plz plz be at 20 something percent by the end of the month!! Thing is...long as the world stays somewhat intact, as much as this all super sucks still rather have Trump stay in office until in/around the midterms so the GOP get blown to pieces then maybe have right wing nut bag Pence take over for 2 years w/ minimal power then LOSE big in 2020. 

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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/apr/06/donald-trump-conscience-syria-terrifying

Trump’s change of heart on Syria isn’t reassuring, it’s profoundly disturbing

Trump with King Abdullah II of Jordan on 5 April.

 

I will tell you that attack on children yesterday had a big impact on me – big impact.” Those were the words of Donald Trump following the use of chemical weapons in Idlib province, Syria. With them, he sent the diplomatic world into a spin: had the president changed his mind on one of the most urgent foreign policy issues of our times?

As far as it’s ever possible to discern method in his madness, Trump’s attitude towards the war in Syria has been relatively straightforward. Destroying Isis is the priority, he has stated time and again, and if that means bolstering Assad as a side-effect, so be it. This has been the logic of his benign attitude towards Russia, too: Vladimir Putin is a Christian leader willing to use hard power against jihadist Islam, so he’s one of the good guys. Also, Iraq was a mess, and no one wants to start a third world war. Or, as he memorably put it back in November, “I had to listen to [Republican Senator] Lindsey Graham talk about, you know, attacking Syria and attacking, you know, and it’s like you’re now attacking Russia, you’re attacking Iran, you’re attacking.”

 

 

But as images of the dead and dying of Khan Sheikhun were beamed out across the internet and on TV, as Trump appointee Nikki Haley held up photos of them in the UN security council chamber in New York, the president seemed to be mulling a different approach. “My attitude toward Syria and Assad has changed very much … You’re now talking about a whole different level.”

This despite the fact that the Syrian civil war has been going on for six years, during which time, according to a 2016 report, there have been 161 chemical attacks. Despite the UN-documented use of sarin, mustard gas, VX and chlorine. Despite the fact that Samantha Power, Obama’s ambassador to the UN, delivered a speech notable for its similarity to Nikki Haley’s in December last year.

It remains to be seen what Trump’s response to this appalling episode will be, but there are ominous rumblings. Haley said: “There are times in the life of states that we are compelled to take our own action.” For defence secretary James Mattis, “It was a heinous act and will be treated as such.” Vice-president Mike Pence is now insisting that “all options are on the table”.

 

 

All this may just be routine strategic ambiguity. But, as ever with the Trump administration, we are in uncharted territory. No one quite knows whether Haley et al are speaking from a Trump-approved hymn-sheet, or concerned with protecting their own reputations in an administration not exactly known for its message discipline. No one quite knows whether Haley’s statement, only last week, that “Our priority is no longer to sit there and focus on getting Assad out,” will stand or be overturned. Since the latter would represent a 180-degree turn, however, it’s worth considering in more detail.

 

Those celebrating the possibility of a shift should ask how it may have come about. If there’s one thing we do know, it’s that Trump wants us to see that he cares. This is a president who is obsessed with how he is perceived, griping about unflattering photos and the size of the crowd at his inauguration.

It’s not even clear that he has any ideological aims, other than to win, and to be liked. He has, after all, donated to both Republicans and Democrats. He supported the Iraq war, then didn’t, then claimed that he never had. When Americans become conscious of an atrocity – despite the fact that it might be the latest in a long line of atrocities, many of which didn’t make the morning news – he can’t help but respond.

One theory about the demotion of Steve Bannon from the National Security Council on Wednesday is that the president disliked the amount of attention his adviser was getting. The Washington Post’s columnist Paul Waldman dubbed him “the most powerful person in the Trump White House”. Time magazine put him on the cover with the headline “the Great Manipulator”. The problem is, his boss doesn’t like to be outshone.

Perhaps the instant praise won by his UN ambassador prodded him into action. Regardless, the conclusion must be that any Syria “pivot” has its roots in Trump’s approval-seeking personality, his proneness to being thrown off course by media coverage, his shallowness of purpose.

 

This is why, rather than being reassuring, his sudden discovery of his conscience on Syria is profoundly disturbing. Major strategic decisions should not be made like this. Of course, Trump may simply sabre-rattle for a bit, then quieten down. But he might instead want a show of force. That could involve cratering a few runways, or something far more muscular. But these are decisions with consequences that would last far longer than the president’s attention span.

Whatever you think of the merits of western intervention in Syria, the idea of Trump directing it is, frankly, terrifying. And even though you may despise the current murky detente, so is the idea of this chaotic, underqualified White House being at loggerheads with Russia. The international order may be vulnerable, and dictators emboldened. But so long as this man is in charge, we must pray that the promise of an isolationist America is fulfilled.

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1 hour ago, LSD said:

 

 

 

Oh no :sadface:

Vital national security interest of the United States? He and his team gotta be kidding people. More like to the detriment of the entire 7bn inhabitants of this planet, US citizens included who are once again being scammed and taken for a ride with another intervention justified by falsehoods and hiding very different objectives. He's even more unpredictable and mentally unstable than expected

It was meant to get to this point from the start though. This narcissistic prick has no fucking clue, rather than Putin's useful idiot, he's just the globalists and banking elites who thrive on the racket of war useful idiot.

 

 

About the 2013 chemical attack in Syria, and the proverbial Obama's crossing of a red line, Seymour Hersh speaking to CNN and UN Inspector Carla Del Ponte speaking to the BBC "the rebels (Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Israel, US backed terrorists) used chemical weapons"

 

 

 

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38 minutes ago, Martin B. said:

As expected, the dangerous idiot has just trained the US into a new war. The only surprise is that he does it much more faster than anticipated.

 

Precisely

Such an utter hypocrite and proves he's anti-establishment my ass

He was put there by the same imperialist controllers who have taken hostage both US parties from time immemorial and see the survival of the current Western banking dictatorship, the survival of the US Dollar in particular as global reserve currency only in endless wars begetting more wars. This is what he had to say to Obama about a previous "chemical attack" in Syria (perpetrated by whom? and ultimately serving whose interests?) that took place in the summer of 2013

 

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The irony of it all

 

9/11 gave these deranged elites who operate through the puppet politicians and do not have the faintest concern for the common citizen the perfect excuse to wade into Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and now Syria (soon Iran) completely unaccountable and destroy their infrastructures, raid their gold, oil and energy through US based corporations, slaughter so many civilians and ultimately create more power vacuum which then in turn gets tunnelled into more barbaric sectarianism and fundamentalism. But they are still telling us that Saudi Arabia and Turkey are essential to the West when in fact they are using those states to create the problem in the very first place. When will people wake up to the lies told by our governments in the "free" West?? 

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15 minutes ago, Skin said:

Trump will do anything to distract the media from his imploding poll numbers and Presidency and he has...

 

 

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4 hours ago, VogueMusic said:

"Child of God"........  get the FUCK outta here. 

 

:chuckle:

Another US president sounding like Veronica Cartwright's character in The Witches of Eastwick. Surprise! When will this evangelical or any other Christian denomination take over of what is supposed to be the most progressive, lay, culturally forward, wealthy nation on Earth end?

God Bless America and the rest of the world! Allrighty. Get real. Blessings never come with the umpteenth illegal, unilateral intervention. They have prepared this strike long before the chemical attack. I have never seen ambulance services treating victims of a gas attack without adequate equipment and wardrobe protection anyway. It's a fucking sad joke.

We haven't learned enough from Iraq and Libya and the nasty unaccounted for vacuums created on purpose there I guess. A big fat nothing. It is glaring but oh well. The world is being duped into yet another sovereign state military aggression which will in turn escalate more pain for all of us

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5 hours ago, LSD said:

 

Good for Saudi Arabia and the Dollar's standing! Expect more confrontation and threats to Iran, and to China over the South China Sea dispute. War means survival of a long held manipulative currency system tied to energetic resources

If Trump had truly been an anti-establishment type of figure FOR REAL from the word go he would bring up the issue of the US nasty relationship with Saudi Arabia and Gulf countries not to mention the scary, no-holds barred, sycophantic one they have with Israel.

He would explain how those countries are all co-responsible for funding Al Qaeda fronts and ISIS which gives the West the pretext and practical opportunity to do as it pleases without any plausible explanations and camouflaged given motivations. Fat Orange Ogre Chance

I suppose the children killed by the US in the region since the first Iraq conflict in the early 90s are not children of God!

Still waiting for those Weapons of Mass Destructions in Iraq from 2003 by the way. Too bad we are all too easily forgetful

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