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MeakMaker    0
2 hours ago, Dannylex said:

They would start fabricating them themselves.

Exactly. They would but since they haven't got the resources they just buy them from the west which thrives on the black market for weapons. Shouldn't the government go after those weapon making industries? 

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MeakMaker    0
49 minutes ago, Hector said:

This shit-show of a press conference :wacko:

 

But even so why not giving facts or where the press is being dishonest? It's like me being accused of something and I just go It's all lies! It's all lies! I mean Duh obviously when you get called out on something the first instinct is denial. 

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Jazzy Jan    0
53 minutes ago, MeakMaker said:

But even so why not giving facts or where the press is being dishonest? It's like me being accused of something and I just go It's all lies! It's all lies! I mean Duh obviously when you get called out on something the first instinct is denial. 

Donald Trump should become best buddies with Lance Armstrong.   Blame the press and accuse everyone of lying.  Convince millions you are right for years.  The thing is with pathological liars,  the truth finally wins.   The real problem and difference though is that Lance Armstrong was a sportsman and Trump is the president of the most powerful  country in the World.   Scary stuff. 

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jaron    0

That press conference was worst than a rasperry hollywood production.

He has no substance in his arguements. All are empty nutshells !

And this guy is a president. Me I am speechless

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Kilt    0

:blink: :provoke: 

I can tell you one thing about a briefing that we're allowed to say because anybody that ever read the most basic book can say it: Nuclear holocaust would be like no other. They're a very powerful nuclear country, and so are we.

If Russia and the United States actually got together and got along -- and don't forget, we're a very powerful nuclear country and so are they. There's no upside. We're a very powerful nuclear country and so are they. I have been briefed. And I can tell you one thing about a briefing that we're allowed to say because anybody that ever read the most basic book can say it, nuclear holocaust would be like no other.

They're a very powerful nuclear country and so are we. If we have a good relationship with Russia, believe me, that's a good thing, not a bad thing.

 

:ohgoodgrief:

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Hector    0

That press conference today was a disaster and disgrace! Rambling, and ranting and raving like a lunatic! :wacko: 

Trump just gave a weapons-grade crazy press conference — here are the 7 most insane moments

BRAD REED

16 FEB 2017 AT 14:15 ET

President Donald Trump held a press conference today in which he once again boasted about his November election win and attacked the mainstream media for producing “fake news.”

But beyond the usual boasting and bashing, the president made several jaw-dropping statements that were surprising even by his standards. Below, we’ll go over the seven craziest moments at today’s press conference.

1. Trump says that while the leaks coming out of his administration are real, the news stories being written about them are still fake news. When asked to explain the seeming contradiction in his desire to both crack down on leaks in his administration and to attack news stories based on those leaks, the president simply said the leaks from the administration were real, but the news they generated was fake.”The leaks are real,” Trump said. “The leaks are absolutely real. The news is fake because so much of the news is fake.”

2. Trump falsely claims that his electoral college victory this past November was the biggest since Ronald Reagan’s. With 306 electoral college votes, Trump’s margin of victory last year was smaller than not only Ronald Reagan’s, but also George H.W. Bush’s victory in 1988, Bill Clinton’s two victories in 1992 and 1996, and Barack Obama’s two wins in 2008 and 2012.When confronted by this, Trump simply replied that he “was given that information,” without acknowledging that the information was false.

3. Trump said he was fine with WikiLeaks because it never leaked classified information. When asked to resolve the contradiction between his current crusade against leaks purportedly coming from the intelligence community and his past praise of WikiLeaks for its leaking of damaging information on Hillary Clinton, Trump falsely claimed that WikiLeaks doesn’t leak classified information.

4. Trump dismisses GOP town hall protesters because most of them are Democrats. When asked about the rowdy protesters from constituents that many Republican lawmakers have faced at their town halls, Trump dismissed them and said most of those people weren’t the people who voted for Republicans in the first place, and thus shouldn’t be taken into consideration. “They are not the Republican people that our representatives represent,” the president said of the protesters.

5. Trump insists that the alternative to getting along with Russia could be “nuclear holocaust.” When asked about his repeated praise of Russian President Vladimir Putin, Trump once again said that he hoped to get along with the Kremlin, while not guaranteeing that he would be able to do so.Trump then veered off course and said that relations between the two countries were important because otherwise the result could be “nuclear holocaust.” “Nuclear holocaust would be like no other,” he said. “They’re a very powerful nuclear country, so are we.”

6. Trump shouts down a Jewish reporter who asked him about rising anti-Semitism. When a reporter from a Jewish publication asked Trump to address the rise in anti-Semitic hate crimes around the country, Trump shot back at him for supposedly asking an unfair question. “It’s not a fair question,” Trump said to the reporter, and then told him to “sit down.”Trump then went on to say that he was the least anti-Semitic person in the world.

7. Trump asked a black reporter to help him set up a meeting with the Congressional Black Caucus. When Trump was asked by reporter April Ryan if he’d meet with the CBC, Trump asked her if they were “friends of hers” and then instructed her to “set up a meeting,” as he apparently assumed that she knew them because she was black as well.

 

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Kurt420    0

This is a fucking joke at this point. Such a piss poor leader on EVERY level. It's not just the policies, if he could actually speak properly, he'd even be able to make some of those sound somewhat acceptable (even if they're not....I mean don't ALL presidents do that somewhat successfully??). He clearly doesn't give a fuck......and if this IS him giving a fuck then we're in for a world of trouble when he REALLY doesn't give a fuck. Actually.....I retract that partially, he does give a fuck and it's clear what he gives a fuck about.....HIM and his fragile little ego. The man is a pussy through and through. WHY is it even necessary to bring up the electoral college numbers for the election at this point?? Bitch, you're in the White House!  WHY the fuck are we still bringing up Hillary Clinton every other sentence?? Again, BITCH, you're in the White House and she's not. WHY bring it up at a press conference at this point?? I'm at the point where I say just let it all go to hell. Clearly, his dumb fuck supporters are going to have to experience some sort of cataclysmic event before they remove their tongues from his rectum, so bring it on! It won't be "fake news" anymore when they finally take those tongues out and there's SHIT all over it! 

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NapolĂ©on    0

At this point the US is a joke to non-Americans. The presidency is basically a reality show. Bill Clinton was almost impeached for "lying" to the American public and now you've got a President who does nothing but lie. I saw a meme the other day that said Trump should just say he built a wall across the border because his supporters would believe it anyway and it would be cheaper. 

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MeakMaker    0

He gave better performances in his own reality TV show The Apprentice. As a president he comes across as a crybaby, a megalomaniac lunatic with no substance and integrity. He attacks the media because this man hates the truth. Thank God America is not Russia or North Korea because then we would have seen a bloodshed of journalists and reporters. The only thing I will remember from this charlatan of a president is "fake news".

Even with the Russian issue he is so unprepared and idiotic with his theories. So for him he can either lick Putins ass and let him run free all over the world or cause a nuclear holocaust. No true diplomatic dialogues, no talks on sanctions, no stronger ties with the NATO countries? Is this how the Donald stands up to bullies like Putin? Americans must be shitting their pants knowing how volatile Mr Trump is. According to his logic we have learned that today Trump is choosing to let Putin do want he wants but maybe tomorrow he might get fed up and will use the nukes?! !?

And of course the hint of war or military intervention is never far behind for Iran or North Korea. The president is not going to tell us what his intentions are. Yes the American people if not the entire world haven't got the right to know if he's actually going to cause a nuclear holocaust. But that's top secret. At least Russia can rest assured it won't be nuked. 

But all of that is nothing compared to how he treated those journalists. But the most outrageous thing is this man has still supporters; people who believe him and stand by him and his lies. And they even stand by his appalling behaviour. What a disgrace.

 

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Hector    0

Shepard Smith the black sheep at Faux News calls out President Batshit's press conference mess

 

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mnino    0
On 2/14/2017 at 5:08 AM, pjcowley said:

 

If any of this is true then it goes to show that he is just a puppet, not to Russia, but to a certain Republican establishment that rules from the shadows. Once again, if true, they are using him to get their agenda through and then Trump will have his "et tu Brute?" moment. If this is indeed real, once he is out, things will continue to go on as they planned if the Democrats keep focusing all of their energy and anger at the man himself instead of trying to find out who these people in the shadows actually are. If so, you all may have to prepare for a Mike Pence second term. 

:lmao:After reading that I have all of these conspiracy theories going in my head. 

Saudi Arabia would LOVE for the US to pick a fight with Iran. Let's see what happens. 

I actually feel bad for Donald. It's not like he can just say I don't want to do this anymore. And now his family will be hated for generations. Talk about "be careful of what you wish for..."

 

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Nessie    0

Donald Trump just wanted to ride the popular wave to get his TRUMP TV project on.

He never expected to win this election. He is just as surprised (and scared) as everyone else.

Somehow, he reminds me of Caligula with his narcissism and erratic behaviour.

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dollhouse    0
2 hours ago, mnino said:

If any of this is true then it goes to show that he is just a puppet, not to Russia, but to a certain Republican establishment that rules from the shadows. Once again, if true, they are using him to get their agenda through and then Trump will have his "et tu Brute?" moment. If this is indeed real, once he is out, things will continue to go on as they planned if the Democrats keep focusing all of their energy and anger at the man himself instead of trying to find out who these people in the shadows actually are. If so, you all may have to prepare for a Mike Pence second term. 

:lmao:After reading that I have all of these conspiracy theories going in my head. 

Saudi Arabia would LOVE for the US to pick a fight with Iran. Let's see what happens. 

I actually feel bad for Donald. It's not like he can just say I don't want to do this anymore. And now his family will be hated for generations. Talk about "be careful of what you wish for..."

 

Russia would NOT. and WONT accept without WW3.

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Not if but when is Shep gonna get axed and end up on CNN?! lol Faux is more horrid than ever. They've gone totally Breitbart off the deep end right wing. All Trump puppets I'm sure being 'told' to do slobber his ass. Look at all the huge players they've lost in just a year (Megyn, Greta, Andrea Tantorus). All females. Shep is pretty gay so I'nm sure he's next lol. Now they're basically a carbon copy of Trumps team- bunch of angry, straight, ring wing racist, older white men. With a few token equally bat shit crazy conservative women. 

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dollhouse    0

build up camps for them?

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Hector    0

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/320168-trump-the-media-is-the-enemy-of-the-american-people

Trump tweets: The media is the 'enemy of the American people'

BY MAX GREENWOOD

President Trump blasted the media as "the enemy of the American people" in a tweet Friday, calling out several outlets specifically.

"The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!" he wrote.

He had posted and then quickly deleted a slightly different version of the tweet just a few minutes earlier, which omitted ABC and CBS. He also included the word "SICK!" at the end of the original post.

The tweet came one day after Trump held an adversarial and lengthy news conference, in which he berated the media as "very fake news" and dismissed news reports about his and his associates' ties to Russia as a "ruse."

About an hour later, he posted a second tweet criticizing the media's coverage of the press conference.

"'One of the most effective press conferences I've ever seen!' says Rush Limbaugh. Many agree.Yet FAKE MEDIA calls it differently! Dishonest," Trump wrote.

Trump has long had an antagonistic relationship with the press, and often labels news stories he sees as unfavorable as "fake news." Trump's campaign issued a survey to supporters on Friday, asking them to gauge the trustworthiness of the media.

The news outlets singled out in Trump's Friday afternoon tweet are not new targets for the president. He has often lambasted CNN and The New York Times, referring to them as "failing" and out of touch with voters.

In a rare interview with The New York Times last month, Chief White House Strategist Steve Bannon, the former chair of the far-right Breitbart News, called reporters the "opposition party" and said "the media should be embarrassed and humiliated and keep its mouth shut and just listen for a while."

"They don't understand this country," Bannon said. "They still do not understand why Donald Trump is the president of the United States."

Trump echoed Bannon's comments shortly after, telling "The Brody File" that "the media is the opposition party in many ways."

- Updated at 7:16 p.m.

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Jazzy Jan    0

I hope the American public that like Trump say see exactly what Trump is doing.  By continually saying the media is disgusting, wrong and printing fake news, he is trying to make them irrelevant and take them out of the equation of people that follow him.  Then they are given the views that they should just listen to the lies that he says and dismiss everything they read and hear by the media,  even if the evidence that back the press up is over-whelming.  It is a tactic that all dictators use and have done in history.  If Trump could somehow ban all the media and just have what he wanted printed, he would.  He is that egotistical, unhinged and power hungry.  

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MadFan    0
20 hours ago, Napoléon said:

I saw a meme the other day that said Trump should just say he built a wall across the border because his supporters would believe it anyway and it would be cheaper. 

:dead:

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pjcowley    0
8 hours ago, jazzyjan said:

I hope the American public that like Trump say see exactly what Trump is doing.  By continually saying the media is disgusting, wrong and printing fake news, he is trying to make them irrelevant and take them out of the equation of people that follow him.  Then they are given the views that they should just listen to the lies that he says and dismiss everything they read and hear by the media,  even if the evidence that back the press up is over-whelming.  It is a tactic that all dictators use and have done in history.  If Trump could somehow ban all the media and just have what he wanted printed, he would.  He is that egotistical, unhinged and power hungry.  

No they won't see it. Bet they cannot wait till Trump will roll out his own news network, as I stated a while back. Ignorance to those Trump lovers is an absolute bliss.

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pjcowley    0

Tennessee Man Convicted Of Plot To Round Up Militia, Attack Muslim Community

Robert Doggart, 65, will be sentenced in May.

A Tennessee man was found guilty on Thursday of plotting in 2015 to round up a militia and burn down a mosque, school and cafeteria in the upstate New York community of Islamberg, which is home to a mostly Muslim population, prosecutors said.

Robert Doggart, 65, was convicted in U.S. District Court in Chattanooga of solicitation to commit arson and violate civil rights, as well as of making a threat in interstate commerce, the Department of Justice said in a written statement.

Attorneys for Doggart did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Doggart was arrested by Federal Bureau of Investigation agents in April 2015 after telling a government informant in wire-tapped phone calls that he planned to recruit a militia and travel to Islamberg, about 145 miles northwest of New York City, prosecutors say.

The group planned to burn down the community’s mosque and shoot anyone who tried to stop them, according to the criminal complaint.

“The defendant sought out others to join him in a violent attack on a community of men, women, and children because of their religion,” Acting Assistant Attorney General Tom Wheeler said in the statement.

Defense attorneys argued in court that Doggart had exaggerated his intentions to attack Islamberg after being encouraged by the informant and that he never had a solid plan in place, the Chattanooga Times Free Press reported.

The attorneys also argued that Doggart believed Islamberg residents were training for guerrilla warfare against the West, the newspaper reported.

Islamberg, started by a group of African-American Muslims who moved from U.S. cities in the 1970s, is a gated community with dirt roads and several dozen small homes near the town of Hancock in New York’s Catskills Mountains.

The 200 or so members of the community, in which children are home-schooled and residents worship at a mosque built on the 70-acre property, follow a Pakistani Sufi cleric.

Doggart, who had been confined to his home since his apprehension, was taken into custody following Thursday’s verdict, WRCB TV news reported. His sentencing is scheduled for May, it reported.

(Reporting by Laila Kearney and Dan Whitcomb; Editing by Leslie Adler and James Dalgleish)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/robert-doggart-guilty_us_58a747f3e4b07602ad546932?section=politics

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pjcowley    0

Bet the Trump loving voters are happy to financially sustain him and his horrid plastic family, including the Melania-appreciative ones...

President Trump’s family is living large — and American taxpayers are paying for it

The Trump family is footing Americans with an ever-increasing bill so they can maintain their lifestyle

Z

President Donald Trump may have been elected as the nominee of a party that prides itself on fiscal conservatism, but he and his family are preparing to blow taxpayers out of the water as they continue with their posh lifestyle.

From the president’s frequent trips to his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida and his sons’ upcoming trip to the United Arab Emirates to open a golf course in Dubai to the First Lady’s decision to reside at Trump Tower in New York City, the lifestyle choices of Trump and family are running up taxpayers’ tab in an unprecedented manner, according to a report from The Washington Post.

Although the agencies which handle most of these expenses did not reply to the Post’s request for specific figures, the newspaper was able to estimate that the president’s three trips to Mar-a-Lago probably cost roughly $10 million, that New York City spends $500,000 every day to guard Trump Tower (which could reach over $730 million by the end of Trump’s first term), and that Eric Trump’s trip to Uruguay for a Trump-brand condo tower cost nearly $100,000 in hotel bills.

“This is an expensive way to conduct business, and the president should recognize that,” said Tom Fitton, president of the conservative group Judicial Watch, when speaking to The Post. “The unique thing about President Trump is that he knows what it costs to run a plane.”

By contrast, although Judicial Watch regularly criticized President Obama for forcing taxpayers to cover his vacation costs, they estimated that his expenses only equaled roughly $97 million during his eight-year presidency — a fraction of what is anticipated for Trump.

http://www.salon.com/2017/02/17/president-trumps-family-is-living-large-and-american-taxpayers-are-paying-for-it/

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