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19 minutes ago, rebelvvv said:

Here we go again pushing your single issue agenda.  Continue on in your political echo chamber, I'm done wasting my time trying to explain things here.  Obama was the very definition of regressing from human and civic rights outside of the United States.  We'll just have to disagree that his agenda is better than the one we have now.

HE SIGNED A BILL TO STRIP WOMEN OF THIEIR RIGHT TO ABORT.

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43 minutes ago, spazz said:

BREAKING: DOW JONES REACHES NEW MILESTONE BY PASSING 20,000, ANALYSTS CALL IT THE ‘TRUMP BUMP’

https://milo.yiannopoulos.net/2017/01/breaking-dow-jones-reaches-new-milestone-passing-20000-analysts-call-trump-bump/

And what victory is that? Rich people getting richer? The poor will stay poor or actually getting poorer with Trump. 

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52 minutes ago, rebelvvv said:

Here we go again pushing your single issue agenda.  Continue on in your political echo chamber, I'm done wasting my time trying to explain things here.  Obama was the very definition of regressing from human and civic rights outside of the United States.  We'll just have to disagree that his agenda is better than the one we have now.

Here we go again with the Obama lynching and put the current president and administration on ignore. 

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14 minutes ago, MeakMaker said:

And what victory is that? Rich people getting richer? The poor will stay poor or actually getting poorer with Trump. 

Was obama a socialist? :confused: 

Wasnt the US economy based on Laissez-faire/capitalism?

the economy will boost and ppl will find more jobs opportunities.

I read he will move the American factories in China back to US like Apple.

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Virginia Unemployment Claims Hit 43-Year Low

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Virginia-Unemployment-Claims-Hit-43-Year-Low-411733415.html

 

 

U.S. added 156,000 jobs in December; wage growth picked up

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/01/06/u-s-added-156000-jobs-in-december-unemployment-rate-ticked-up-to-4-7-percent/?utm_term=.e410addd00f5

 

 

"The data from the president’s final full month in office was in stark contrast with the economy in January 2009, as Obama took office amid the depths of the recession. At that time, the unemployment rate was 7.8 percent. Last month, the jobless rate rose slightly to 4.7 percent. The decrease marks the second-largest drop in the unemployment rate during a presidency, after President Bill Clinton, since Dwight D. Eisenhower took office in 1953.

December also marked the 75th straight month of job growth — the most extended streak the country has seen since 1939."

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31 minutes ago, spazz said:

Was obama a socialist? :confused: 

Wasnt the US economy based on Laissez-faire/capitalism?

the economy will boost and ppl will find more jobs opportunities.

I read he will move the American factories in China back to US like Apple.

Capitalism and laissez-faire policies are not the same thing. Regulation isn't communism or socialism. 

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41 minutes ago, spazz said:

Was obama a socialist? :confused: 

Wasnt the US economy based on Laissez-faire/capitalism?

the economy will boost and ppl will find more jobs opportunities.

I read he will move the American factories in China back to US like Apple.

Don't believe the orange one. Everything he's doing will only benefit himself and his rich friends. Some Americans will have jobs ( although talks of moving companies to the US was already in place when Obama was in charge and Trump now will take all credits of course) but that's not the issue anyways. If he isn't lowering taxes or rising the living wage the average person who's been unemployed won't be living the American dream. Trumps administration will help the rich getting richer. Mark my words. 

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Next they'll be burning books.

"Four more journalists have been charged with felonies after being arrested while covering the unrest around Donald Trump’s inauguration, meaning that at least six media workers are facing up to 10 years in prison and a $25,000 fine if convicted."

"https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/jan/24/journalists-charged-felonies-trump-inauguration-unrest"

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4 hours ago, rebelvvv said:

Here we go again pushing your single issue agenda.  Continue on in your political echo chamber, I'm done wasting my time trying to explain things here.  Obama was the very definition of regressing from human and civic rights outside of the United States.  We'll just have to disagree that his agenda is better than the one we have now.

Here's you rambling about Obama and purposely ignoring Trump's policies again. You ain't slick.

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9 hours ago, rebelvvv said:

See this is why there is no point in attempting to have a rational discussion or explain to you why people might have different choices.  Freedom of speech goes both ways in a true democracy, not when it is just suits your political view.  The excessively PC culture is why nobody can have a reasonable discussion about policy issues without automatically being slapped with a negative label that just unnecessarily simplistically boxes people into a stereotype.  But feel free to continue doing that and not understanding other people's views.

In a 2 party-system, there are 2 choices.  We'll just have to agree to disagree that HRC would have been a better alternative or that another 8 years of Obama style governing would have done less damage, because those were the two choices we had.

Obama, who recklessly continued to endanger American security by leaving this as his parting shot:

State Dept. Reviewing $221 Million Payment to Palestinians

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2017/01/24/us/politics/ap-us-united-states-palestinians.html

YOU ARE NOT PROVIDING POLICY DETAILS. 

I have asked you to provide SPECIFICS regarding the policies of Obama as to why his presidency was the mess you claim. When all measurable statistics are contradictory to your claims. 

Gas prices. 

Housing costs. 

GDP

Unemployment rate. 

Stock market. 

I could go on and on. No, he wasn't perfect, but he was hardly the disaster you claim him to be. 

And again, you have skipped over the Reagan and Bush administrations and have magically created this Clinton/Obama dynasty without ever criticizing Trumps pull-from-my-ass policies. 

So, no, you're right. There isn't any point in having a rational discussion on policies because you're not providing any specifics for us to discuss. You want to talk about Cuba? Great! What don't you like about that policy? Don't just say Cuba then run away. 

You sound like a Fox News talking point provider and until you broaden your criticism with previous administrations bedsides Obama, well, 👋🏾

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4 hours ago, MeakMaker said:

Here we go again with the Obama lynching and put the current president and administration on ignore. 

Like more than half of you in here haven't been lynching Trump and had Obama on ignore.

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17 minutes ago, Sloane said:

Like more than half of you in here haven't been lynching Trump and had Obama on ignore.

Because Trump has far more to lynch than Obama. Far more. 

I'm all about constructive conversation, but let's not compare the two. If you want to compare policies of politicians, I'll contrast Reagan and Bush and Nixon all day. 

Trump has zero credibility with me. He hasn't had any in decades. 

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2 minutes ago, KalamazooJay said:

Because Trump has far more to lynch than Obama. Far more. 

I'm all about constructive conversation, but let's not compare the two. If you want to compare policies of politicians, I'll contrast Reagan and Bush and Nixon all day. 

Trump has zero credibility with me. He hasn't had any in decades. 

I'm electing someone who will do their job that they were elected to do, not a moral paragon.  If we held out for that, no politician would be in office.  People in glass houses and all that... just look at Bill.

HRC had zero credibility with me.  She hasn't in decades.  Those are the choices we had, so we'll just have to disagree.

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Just now, rebelvvv said:

Left-wing extremists are so classy.

I'm not left-wing! How fucking dare you. If I were a dictator I'd throw you in a camp and make you make Louis Vuitton bags for my friends.

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3 minutes ago, ULIZOS said:

I'm not left-wing! How fucking dare you. If I were a dictator I'd throw you in a camp and make you make Louis Vuitton bags for my friends.

I'm putting you on ignore, because you've clearly reached a disturbed level of vitriol.  Have a nice day.

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2 minutes ago, rebelvvv said:

I'm electing someone who will do their job that they were elected to do, not a moral paragon.  If we held out for that, no politician would be in office.  People in glass houses and all that... just look at Bill.

HRC had zero credibility with me.  She hasn't in decades.  Those are the choices we had, so we'll just have to disagree.

An American president IS a moral paragon. Period. Maybe not to you or to me, but to millions of others, they are. 

And you can own your vote. I was NEVER a Hillary fan. Never. But I voted for her to avoid opening this Pandora's box of slime that Trump has opened which we'll never be able to put back. 

So, here's your America. Here's the Greatness you voted for. I said last summer the bottom would fall out if he was elected, and so far, I've been proven right. 

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2 minutes ago, KalamazooJay said:

An American president IS a moral paragon. Period. Maybe not to you or to me, but to millions of others, they are. 

And you can own your vote. I was NEVER a Hillary fan. Never. But I voted for her to avoid opening this Pandora's box of slime that Trump has opened which we'll never be able to put back. 

So, here's your America. Here's the Greatness you voted for. I said last summer the bottom would fall out if he was elected, and so far, I've been proven right. 

If you thought past American presidents such as Bill were moral paragons, I feel sorry for your delusion.  I chose the wolf instead of the wolf in sheep's clothing.  Everyone does own their vote.  I never said otherwise.

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10 minutes ago, ULIZOS said:

Shut it you zionist pig 

 

8 minutes ago, ULIZOS said:

I'm not left-wing! How fucking dare you. If I were a dictator I'd throw you in a camp and make you make Louis Vuitton bags for my friends.

And it just got 10 feet higher :america:

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4 minutes ago, Sloane said:

Ulizos is just grumpy cuz he's got a wall to pay for.

As Mexico's former president just tweeted: 

:lmao:

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2 minutes ago, rebelvvv said:

If you thought past American presidents such as Bill were moral paragons, I feel sorry for your delusion.  I chose the wolf instead of the wolf in sheep's clothing.  Everyone does own their vote.  I never said otherwise.

I feel sorry for you too, but that's another conversation. 😘

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14 minutes ago, ULIZOS said:

:lmao: what a dumb bitch

Says the person who is incapable of rational debate without resorting to name calling and personal attacks.  And you cry about freedom of speech and intolerance. :lmao:

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Just now, rebelvvv said:

Says the person who is incapable of rational debate without resorting to name calling and personal attacks.  And you cry about freedom of speech and intolerance. :lmao:

I never cry about freedom of speech or intolerance. Don't come to this thread in the last week to voice your stupid comments and complaints about Obama even though the man ISN'T IN OFFICE ANYMORE and then come and attack some of us who've been posting here for years and lump me into your ridiculous ideas of what anyone who doesn't support Trump believes in. 

If it were up to me we'd be in a dictatorship and stupid ass people like you and Trump supporters would be forced to shut the fuck up.

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