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38 minutes ago, MeakMaker said:

Lies. Lies. Lies.. I spoke to a group of Syrian refugees and trust me what's going on there with Assad the dictator is disgusting. This woman is probably paid by Russia. 

Besides I don't need the press to tell me anything. Just need to look at the pictures and videos.. or are those made in Hollywood? The length some peeps go to defend dictators is becoming rather embarrassing. 

This video was uploaded in Germany from the RT account with the title "reporter at the UN destroys the mainstream media in 2 minutes over lies in Syria". Enough said. Everything coming from RT is pure propaganda. I don't understand how anyone can take them seriously. They don't even hide the fact they are financed by the Russian government.

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2 minutes ago, Raider of the lost Ark said:

This video was uploaded in Germany from the RT account with the title "reporter at the UN destroys the mainstream media in 2 minutes over lies in Syria". Enough said. Everything coming from RT is pure propaganda. I don't understand how anyone can take them seriously. They don't even hide the fact they are financed by the Russian government.

Exactly!

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1 hour ago, MeakMaker said:

Eva Bartlett is being toured in the US by pro-Assad forces who claim to be antiwar but support Syrian & Russian bombing of civilians as a freedom operation against “throat-cutting, organ-eating jihadist terrorists.”

Her speech at the UN Syrian mission was a predictable litany of accusations about those “jihadists” which will go over well with committed Assad supporters. But critical-minded activists & those confused about the Syrian war will require elaboration–which unfortunately Bartlett may not be able or willing to give.

Bartlett’s mantra is that there never was a popular uprising against Assad’s dictatorship in 2011, that since its beginning, the war has been a proxy war against a progressive Assad regime by US armed & trained terrorist militias with the purpose of regime change. But according to Bartlett’s own biography, she was in Gaza till after November 2012. So whose authority is she accepting that there was no popular movement against Assad–when Syrians who participated in that uprising testify otherwise & when there are mountains of documentation, including hundreds of videos?

When Bartlett & other Assadist sources describe what is going on in east Aleppo (as an example), they claim the 250,000 civilians sustaining Syrian & Russian bombing are controlled by those “throat-cutting, organ-eating jihadists.” They deny east Aleppo is being bombed & insist it is the “jihadists” who are creating the mountains of rubble. Any documentation to the contrary they claim is “fake news.”

The first question for Bartlett is: how does she know what’s going on in east Aleppo when she has not been there? What are her unimpeachable sources? Out of the over 1,000 armed militias in Syria, which ones does she know are operating in east Aleppo & how does she know that? How does she know their political character & that they are “head-chopping jihadists”? Can she document anything from independent sources who are not embedded with the Syrian army like Robert Fisk?

Most Assadists, including Bartlett, only name a few “jihadist” militias like al-Nusra & the Free Syrian Army but they insist they’re all alike, that there are no moderate militia groups. Maybe they’re simplifying because in mainstream media & other sources, there are so many militia groups with such different politics that flow charts are required. Perhaps to prove her authority, Bartlett could detail & document some of the most important groups to show she’s not talking through her hat or serving as an Assad propagandist.

What does she know about the pro-Assad militias? How many are there & where are they operating in Syria? Does she know which of the over 1,000 militias in Syria are armed by the CIA & which by the US military & what their field of operations are? Which ones are Hezbollah? Which ones foreign mercenaries? Iranians? ISIS?

Most importantly, how is the US using those militias to accomplish regime-change? It would have been so much easier for the US to accomplish that with bombers against a weakened Syrian military before Russia entered the war in September 2015. Can Bartlett explain why the US temporized over three years instead of doing just what it did in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya?

Bartlett leads the chorus that chants like a broken record: nothing one reads in “corporate media” about Syria can be trusted. It is all lies. It is all “fake news.” Her sweeping indictment includes every single media source from the NY Times to Democracy Now that doesn’t have an ardent pro-Assad position & doesn’t promote Russian military intervention.

But to her, the treachery & lying doesn’t end with mainstream media. She has devised a list of NGOs & human rights organizations who also report nothing but lies about Assad & Putin. That list which she promises to expand includes Medecins Sans Frontiers/Doctors Without Borders, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, the White Helmets, & others guilty of not supporting Assad’s dictatorship.

It is not persuasive that Bartlett only relies on Russian-owned media or pro-Assad sources, including propagandists like herself, for an understanding of the Syrian war.

So the second question is: how can she be believed? What independent sources does Bartlett use to prove that there never was a popular uprising against Assad’s dictatorship, that “jihadist terrorists” funded by the US are the only opposition to the Assad regime & they are all engaged in “throat-cutting & organ-eating”?

Bartlett would be so much more credible if she would just identify her unimpeachable sources, if she could document a single thing she says, & if she didn’t have such close ties to the Assad dictatorship.

 

This and you are ridiculous. 

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Um..who did NOT think Russia was not at the min. *heavily involved and wanted Dumpster! :/ lmao How is this just now a massive surprise lol. Thing is, basically ALL his voters still don't care or even have any fking idea who Putin is! :# With the dreadful things he said and did why would 'this' have even mattered months ago. Hillary was just that loathed by all his supporters and even non supporters/ general public. As bad as Trump is she's still worse by many, many people. That's why she lost! For the 1000th time anyone else but that woman would've destroyed Trump. Dems blew the easiest election of all time by sticking with her. I and many others will believe that until the end of time. The MSM seriously bombed/flopped and got massively trolled without any effort by Trump and Russia this entire election cycle! They chose to OCD on her e-mails when they easily could've done what they're doing now since at least the summer-11/8! The only time they got it right was the Access Hollywood tape. But that came out a bit too early then Hillary get battered to death by the media the last crucial few weeks. 

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1 hour ago, Hector said:

 

 

OHHHHH..... it's just the Dems being sore losers.....this is just a bunch of conspiracies. Putin's our pal and really thinks Trump is a good, smart guy. Everyone knows Putin just wants world peace for all and that was just never going to happen with Crooked Hillary at the helm. All he's ever wanted is to just have good relations with the US. It's time to just stop this conspiracy madness and let's just let Trump run the country. He's our president after all and I just think we need to back him no matter what. He said himself he's  a smart guy that doesn't need briefings....that's good enough for me. I'll take his word and so should everybody else. Let Hillary be to go hang out at her favorite pizza parlor in DC for some good ol' "R&R" with Bill and company. 

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Lol! Almost word for word you're (possibly on purpose) sounding like the dreadful demon woman Kelly Conway. I think I may hate her the most out of ALL his cast of seriously evil characters/ team.  I rarely wish harm on anyone but absolutely couldn't care less if that huge jawed donkey face endures something really horrible at some point and is never seen/heard from again. 

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10 minutes ago, Ciccone's Cheeks said:

Lol! Almost word for word you're (possibly on purpose) sounding like the dreadful demon woman Kelly Conway. I think I may hate her the most out of ALL his cast of seriously evil characters/ team.  I rarely wish harm on anyone but absolutely couldn't care less if that huge jawed donkey face endures something really horrible at some point and is never seen/heard from again. 

It's absolutely terrifying that there are people that would say those things with a straight face. 

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Donald Trump gathered Silicon Valley executives together for a roundtable meeting, in an attempt to smooth over frictions after a contentious presidential campaign.  


 

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Looking around the room Trump called the group gathered 'amazing' and then boasted about the stock market 'bounce' that followed his election, which helped many of the businesses represented in the room.   

'So right now everybody in this room has to like me – at least a little bit,' Trump told the crowd.  :lol:

'But we're going to try and have that bounce continue,' Trump pledged. 

Trump said the most important thing was 'we want you to keep going with the incredible innovation.'

Trump pledged to be there for Silicon Valley and make it easier for American companies to trade. 

 

'And you'll call my people, you'll call me. It doesn't make any difference,' Trump continued. 'We have no formal chain of command over here.'   

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7 hours ago, ULIZOS said:

This and you are ridiculous. 

Ridiculous? I think Assad and Putin and all their minions are ridiculous and dangerous and certainly anti democratic but what do I know? I'm not one of those Syrians getting bombed everyday because they're against Assad regime. 

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1 hour ago, Love Spent said:

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I didn't know that many Americans were ignorant, backwards, racist, sexist, bigots, downright heartless and silly! Then again in a country where Taylor Swift manages to have hit after hit and hate crimes are skyrocketing what would I expect?

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5 hours ago, Kurt420 said:

 

OHHHHH..... it's just the Dems being sore losers.....this is just a bunch of conspiracies. Putin's our pal and really thinks Trump is a good, smart guy. Everyone knows Putin just wants world peace for all and that was just never going to happen with Crooked Hillary at the helm. All he's ever wanted is to just have good relations with the US. It's time to just stop this conspiracy madness and let's just let Trump run the country. He's our president after all and I just think we need to back him no matter what. He said himself he's  a smart guy that doesn't need briefings....that's good enough for me. I'll take his word and so should everybody else. Let Hillary be to go hang out at her favorite pizza parlor in DC for some good ol' "R&R" with Bill and company. 

World peace? Have you lost your mind? Half Europe is on alert because peace maker Putin is putting tanks, missiles machines, submarines, etc.. around each and one of their bordering states. You guys are fool!

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4 hours ago, Hector said:

 

Donald maybe you should stop watching the news and focus on becoming a serious president. Mr Grab Them By The Pussy President youre a joke to the US and the whole humanity. I'm ashamed to be a human being just like you. God have pity on you and each one of your supporter. 

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2 hours ago, Love Spent said:

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I'm disgusted to know people like that are amongst that crowd. The old, racist, sexist, homophobic, military mentality which once again is trying to take over our societies will destroy us all. Humanity, will we ever learn from our own mistakes? 

LoveSpent I beg you go listen to Borrowed Time before posting anything else. Peace.

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1 hour ago, Love Spent said:

Donald Trump gathered Silicon Valley executives together for a roundtable meeting, in an attempt to smooth over frictions after a contentious presidential campaign.  


 

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Looking around the room Trump called the group gathered 'amazing' and then boasted about the stock market 'bounce' that followed his election, which helped many of the businesses represented in the room.   

'So right now everybody in this room has to like me – at least a little bit,' Trump told the crowd.  :lol:

'But we're going to try and have that bounce continue,' Trump pledged. 

Trump said the most important thing was 'we want you to keep going with the incredible innovation.'

Trump pledged to be there for Silicon Valley and make it easier for American companies to trade. 

 

'And you'll call my people, you'll call me. It doesn't make any difference,' Trump continued. 'We have no formal chain of command over here.'   

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/twitter-not-invited-trumps-tech-9461015

Trump must be the most devious, desperate, alarmingly unqualified, sexist, ignorant, self obsessed and lying US president I have ever witnessed. He's 100 times worse than Bush Junior... 

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1 hour ago, MeakMaker said:

I'm disgusted to know people like that are amongst that crowd. The old, racist, sexist, homophobic, military mentality which once again is trying to take over our societies will destroy us all. Humanity, will we ever learn from our own mistakes? 

LoveSpent I beg you go listen to Borrowed Time before posting anything else. Peace.

Have you been repeatedly victimized and as a result see anyone who doesn't mirror your to opinions back to you as probable predators? 

I'm not trying to call you out, it's just that's how many of your non Madonna related posts come off. 

It's a serious question and I'd like to know more.

I will check out ' Borrowed Time'! Thanks

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1 hour ago, MeakMaker said:

World peace? Have you lost your mind? Half Europe is on alert because peace maker Putin is putting tanks, missiles machines, submarines, etc.. around each and one of their bordering states. You guys are fool!

Despite recently closing hundreds of bases in Iraq and Afghanistan, the United States still maintains nearly 800 military bases in more than 70 countries and territories abroad—from giant “Little Americas” to small radar facilities. Britain, France and Russia, by contrast, have about 30 foreign bases combined.

By my calculation, maintaining bases and troops overseas cost $85 to $100 billion in fiscal year 2014; the total with bases and troops in warzones is $160 to $200 billion.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/06/us-military-bases-around-the-world-119321

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1 hour ago, Love Spent said:

Have you been repeatedly victimized and as a result see anyone who doesn't mirror your to opinions back to you as probable predators? 

I'm not trying to call you out, it's just that's how many of your non Madonna related posts come off. 

It's a serious question and I'd like to know more.

I will check out ' Borrowed Time'! Thanks

I support my Madonna fandom by siding by her politically and socially. Shame I can't say same things about you... a fan who haven't even heard Borrowed Time? I rest my case lol

i never suffered racial abuse tbh. I'm very blessed in that respect but that doesn't mean I haven't witnessed it and found it extremely unfair and cruel. Wouldn't you? 

I'm not here to argue LoveSpent. I'm here to make people understand we need to change for the better not for the worse.

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25 minutes ago, CzarnaWisnia said:

Despite recently closing hundreds of bases in Iraq and Afghanistan, the United States still maintains nearly 800 military bases in more than 70 countries and territories abroad—from giant “Little Americas” to small radar facilities. Britain, France and Russia, by contrast, have about 30 foreign bases combined.

By my calculation, maintaining bases and troops overseas cost $85 to $100 billion in fiscal year 2014; the total with bases and troops in warzones is $160 to $200 billion.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/06/us-military-bases-around-the-world-119321

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And your point is? Did I say the US is blameless? Why is it that people feel the need to counterattack what I'm saying instead of focusing on my true messages... I'm not siding by the USA questionable foreign policies. Again, two wrongs don't make it right. 

What I find appalling is how many people believe Putin, Trump and Assad are these beacons of light and hope for humanity. But no one wants to discuss that.. everybody like to go on and on about all the  mistakes America did and let's not focus on the present situation. What's done is done.. we need a change; a true change. Not a change offered by selfish megalomaniac individuals like Trump or Putin. Open your eyes, people. 

 

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31 minutes ago, MeakMaker said:

And your point is? Did I say the US is blameless? Why is it that people feel the need to counterattack what I'm saying instead of focusing on my true messages... I'm not siding by the USA questionable foreign policies. Again, two wrongs don't make it right. 

What I find appalling is how many people believe Putin, Trump and Assad are these beacons of light and hope for humanity. But no one wants to discuss that.. everybody like to go on and on about all the  mistakes America did and let's not focus on the present situation. What's done is done.. we need a change; a true change. Not a change offered by selfish megalomaniac individuals like Trump or Putin. Open your eyes, people. 

 

You're right. One side being the devil doesn't mean the opponent is an angel. Sometimes it's a demon even worse. People tend to see opposites in a very good/bad way, when it can be just bad/bad.

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6 minutes ago, CzarnaWisnia said:

You're right. One side being the devil doesn't mean the opponent is an angel. Sometimes it's a demon even worse. People tend to see opposites in a very good/bad way, when it can be just bad/bad.

Thank you. I agree with the mistakes the US has been making on certain foreign soils. But thats been going on long before Obama or Hillary came into the picture. Do I condone what they did in the Middle East? Of course not! But do I condone Assad regime? Not in a million years! 

I'm sure as hell we need a change but seriously how can someone like Trump or Putin be the saviours? Honestly? And Putin has been around for how long now? Why all of a sudden is trying to be such a polarising figure in international politics? Where's he been all these years? And why won't Russia take any Syrian refugees? Is it because the ones fleeing Syria are anti the Assad regime?

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5 hours ago, Love Spent said:

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If this was made by russia 

Then kudos to Putin for being the strongest leader on planet and his involvement to the save the World and preventing Hillary for not being president. 🍻 

How many countries the US set their puppets as president? The NATO , turkey etc..

 

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2 hours ago, spazz said:

If this was made by russia 

Then kudos to Putin for being the strongest leader on planet and his involvement to the save the World and preventing Hillary for not being president. 🍻 

How many countries the US set their puppets as president? The NATO , turkey etc..

 

Spazz, why isn't Russia taking any Syrian refugees?

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6 minutes ago, MeakMaker said:

Spazz, why isn't Russia taking any Syrian refugees?

that aint true.

The West & Turkey provoked a bloodshed war in Syria and take refugees how hypocritical :lmao:

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5 hours ago, MeakMaker said:

Ridiculous? I think Assad and Putin and all their minions are ridiculous and dangerous and certainly anti democratic but what do I know? I'm not one of those Syrians getting bombed everyday because they're against Assad regime. 

The radical Muslims and terrorists were the target.  

I don't agree with bombings and Russia and Syria are killing innocents but they didn't start this.  

We have discussed this before. 

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6 hours ago, MeakMaker said:

World peace? Have you lost your mind? Half Europe is on alert because peace maker Putin is putting tanks, missiles machines, submarines, etc.. around each and one of their bordering states. You guys are fool!

THIS!!!

The russki is openly testing and defying the sovereignty of neighboring countries and leading a hybrid informational war! if you think that the bear is hibernating, think twice, he's been slowly marking his territory and will state his claim when all of us least expect it. The Putin regime still wants to claim back all the former soviet union republics and territories that now belong to Baltic States. Just look what happened in Crimea. Never forget THAT!!! Putin wants to reinstate the former glory days of the Russian's empire dominion.   

 

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