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[Guest CzarnaWisnia]

46 minutes ago, horn said:

Radio should start playing American Life.

because rapping about soy lattes will make it better how?

no, radios should start playing Ghosttown.

[horn]

3 hours ago, CzarnaWisnia said:

because rapping about soy lattes will make it better how?

no, radios should start playing Ghosttown.

No, it's because of "American lieeeeeeee".

[Guest CzarnaWisnia]

lie? As in, "Oh, American, you, come lie next to me."

[Guest]

On 11/20/2016 at 7:23 AM, Kim said:

Very true. It's exactly what they did during the campaign too, and once again, America falls for it. There's been more publicity and outcry about this nonsense, than about the insidious cabinet he's putting together.

 

 

That simply isn't true.  News reports, newspaper, etc are all talking about the cabinet he's putting together.  The main topic of conversation, in my little corner of the US, is his cabinet, not the theatre play.  Just because it's getting mentioned doesn't mean there's more publicity about it. 

[ULIZOS]

I went out with a bunch of Californians Saturday night. They were all like "oh, I'm just in disbelief." I kind of snapped at them and told them that just because they've never experienced racism because they're white doesn't mean it doesn't exist and it's kind of offensive that everyone was oblivious to that side of America until literally 2 weeks ago.

This is why a teacher calls her students niggers and people in this very forum blame PC attitudes and us "overly sensitive" types, not the teacher who calls her students niggers. I mean, racism doesn't exist anymore. Us brown folks are just being dramatic and crave attention.  

[Camacho]

http://nypost.com/2016/11/21/donald-trumps-media-summit-was-a-f-ing-firing-squad/

Donald Trump’s media summit was a ‘f—ing firing squad’

By Emily Smith and Daniel Halper

November 21, 2016 | 5:12pm | Updated

President-elect Donald Trump exploded at media bigs in an off-the-record Trump Tower powow on Monday, sources told The Post.

“It was like a f—ing firing squad,” said one source.

“Trump started with Jeff Zucker and said I hate your network, everyone at CNN is a liar and you should be ashamed….

“The meeting was a total disaster. The TV execs and anchors went in there thinking they would be discussing the access they would get to the Trump administration, but instead they got a Trump-style dressing down,” the source added.

A second source confirmed the encounter.

“The meeting took place in a big board room and there were about 30 or 40 people, including the big news anchors from all the networks…,” the source said.

“Trump kept saying, ‘We’re in a room of liars, the deceitful dishonest media who got it all wrong. He addressed everyone in the room calling the media dishonest, deceitful liars. He called out Jeff Zucker by name and said everyone at CNN was a liar, and CNN was network of liars.

“Trump didn’t say Katy Tur by name, but talked about an NBC female correspondent who got it wrong, then he referred to a horrible network correspondent who cried when Hillary lost who hosted a debate – which was Martha Raddatz who was also in the room.

“Gayle did not stand up, but asked some question, ‘How do you propose we the media work with you?’ Chuck Todd asked some pretty pointed questions. David Muir asked how are you going to cope living in DC while your family is in NYC? It was a horrible meeting”.

The meeting was off the record, meaning the participants agreed not to talk about the substance of the conversations.

The hour-long powwow included top execs from network and cable news channels. Among the attendees were NBC’s Deborah Turness, Lester Holt and Chuck Todd, ABC’s James Goldston, George Stephanopoulos, David Muir and Martha Raddatz, CBS’ Norah O’Donnell John Dickerson, Charlie Rose, Christopher Isham and Gayle King, Fox News’ Bill Shine, Jack Abernethy, Jay Wallace, Suzanne Scott, MSNBC’s Phil Griffin and CNN’s Jeff Zucker and Erin Burnett.

Additional reporting by Claire Atkinson

[Kim]

2 hours ago, WeboGirl said:

 

That simply isn't true.  News reports, newspaper, etc are all talking about the cabinet he's putting together.  The main topic of conversation, in my little corner of the US, is his cabinet, not the theatre play.  Just because it's getting mentioned doesn't mean there's more publicity about it. 

Obviously hardly anyone is talking about it now, it's old news, but for that 48hr period it had far more traction on social media and news sites than anything else to do with Trump.

[Camacho]

Yeah all day Saturday it dominated news and it was trending high on twitter and Facebook all weekend. I'm surprised Trump hasn't blown up about Green Day yet!

[Guest Pud Whacker]

aside from @ULIZOS, who would suck Trump to completion for $100,000 cash?!!!

[Kim]

11 minutes ago, Hector said:

Yeah all day Saturday it dominated news and it was trending high on twitter and Facebook all weekend. I'm surprised Trump hasn't blown up about Green Day yet!

That's what I was thinking when I read about that. Maybe he's saving his faux-outrage tweets until there's something else he wants to sneak through...

[FreeMySoul]

27 minutes ago, Hector said:

http://nypost.com/2016/11/21/donald-trumps-media-summit-was-a-f-ing-firing-squad/

Donald Trump’s media summit was a ‘f—ing firing squad’

By Emily Smith and Daniel Halper

November 21, 2016 | 5:12pm | Updated

President-elect Donald Trump exploded at media bigs in an off-the-record Trump Tower powow on Monday, sources told The Post.

“It was like a f—ing firing squad,” said one source.

“Trump started with Jeff Zucker and said I hate your network, everyone at CNN is a liar and you should be ashamed….

“The meeting was a total disaster. The TV execs and anchors went in there thinking they would be discussing the access they would get to the Trump administration, but instead they got a Trump-style dressing down,” the source added.

A second source confirmed the encounter.

“The meeting took place in a big board room and there were about 30 or 40 people, including the big news anchors from all the networks…,” the source said.

“Trump kept saying, ‘We’re in a room of liars, the deceitful dishonest media who got it all wrong. He addressed everyone in the room calling the media dishonest, deceitful liars. He called out Jeff Zucker by name and said everyone at CNN was a liar, and CNN was network of liars.

“Trump didn’t say Katy Tur by name, but talked about an NBC female correspondent who got it wrong, then he referred to a horrible network correspondent who cried when Hillary lost who hosted a debate – which was Martha Raddatz who was also in the room.

“Gayle did not stand up, but asked some question, ‘How do you propose we the media work with you?’ Chuck Todd asked some pretty pointed questions. David Muir asked how are you going to cope living in DC while your family is in NYC? It was a horrible meeting”.

The meeting was off the record, meaning the participants agreed not to talk about the substance of the conversations.

The hour-long powwow included top execs from network and cable news channels. Among the attendees were NBC’s Deborah Turness, Lester Holt and Chuck Todd, ABC’s James Goldston, George Stephanopoulos, David Muir and Martha Raddatz, CBS’ Norah O’Donnell John Dickerson, Charlie Rose, Christopher Isham and Gayle King, Fox News’ Bill Shine, Jack Abernethy, Jay Wallace, Suzanne Scott, MSNBC’s Phil Griffin and CNN’s Jeff Zucker and Erin Burnett.

Additional reporting by Claire Atkinson

the dictator has spoken

[Guest Pud Whacker]

8 minutes ago, FreeMySoul said:

the dictator has spoken

PERON!!! PERON!!! PERON!!!

maybe Madonna's grand daughter will play MELANIA!!!

[LSD]

 

[Gaudet]

The alt-right movement goes full Nazi as Steve Bannon prepares to enter the White House

I have to connect these disturbing dots for you.

Steve Bannon was recently appointed as Chief Strategist for President-elect Donald Trump. It was simply a promotion for Bannon, who served as CEO of Trump's presidential campaign.

Bannon, though, was not an experienced political strategist. He was the head of Breitbart News. Just a few months ago, he openly bragged that under his leadership he transformed Breitbart into "the platform of the alt-right movement." Those are his words — not from some distant past, but from this past July.

I've said it many times, but the alt-right movement is simply the KKK without the hoods. They are skinheads with suits and ties. They simply chose a new name, but are fueled by the same hate and the same philosophy as previous white supremacist and Neo-Nazi movements.

This weekend, it all came to a full boil. Richard Spencer, who coined the term "alt-right" and is seen as one of its founders and public intellectuals, openly wore his Neo-Nazi heart on his sleeve.

I can hardly believe what I am about to quote.

At an Alt-Right conference being held, of all places, in a federal building in Washington D.C., Spencer didn't even attempt to hide his bigotry and anti-Semitism.

According to the NY Times, He railed against Jews and, with a smile, quoted Nazi propaganda in the original German. America, he said, belonged to white people, whom he called the "children of the sun," a race of conquerors and creators who had been marginalized but now, in the era of President-elect Donald J. Trump, were "awakening to their own identity."

As he finished, several audience members had their arms outstretched in a Nazi salute. When Mr. Spencer, or perhaps another person standing near him at the front of the room — it was not clear who — shouted, "Heil the people! Heil victory," the room shouted it back.

Yeah, that really happened.

The movement that the incoming Chief Strategist of the White House brazenly built an online home for is openly quoting Nazi propaganda in German in federal buildings and giving each other Nazi salutes. Not in the 1930s, but this weekend.

We simply aren't being clear enough.

When you build, fund, and promote the online home for the modern-day Neo-Nazi movement, and openly brag that you have done so, that makes you a supporter and enabler of Neo-Nazis. If someone built, funded, promoted, and openly admitted to creating the online home for the latest iteration of ISIS, you know what they'd be called? Terrorists. Doing any such thing for the latest version of ISIS would likely get someone jailed, but doing it for modern day Neo-Nazis has gotten Steve Bannon access to the highest levels of government.

One does not have to do a Nazi salute in public to be a Neo-Nazi, but let's be clear — Steve Bannon is at least an ally of Neo-Nazis. The man Donald Trump has appointed as his Chief Strategist has worked for years to not only normalize the alt-right movement, but to give it a home and that movement is fundamentally bigoted. Unless you are willfully ignorant, such a thing is not in question.

His own former employees have openly said that Breitbart News, under Bannon's leadership, has openly embraced bigotry, white supremacy and anti-Semitism.

Bannon's ex-wife, before any of us had ever heard his name, said that he was anti-Semitic.

As a compliment, Andrew Breitbart, the founder of Breitbart News, openly called Bannon the "Leni Riefenstahl of the Tea Party movement." Leni Riefenstahl was a famous Nazi filmmaker and propagandist. She worked directly with Adolf Hitler. Such a "compliment" blows my mind. No man who has openly received such a compliment should ever be in the Oval Office.

Protesters against U.S. President-elect Donald Trump's Chief Strategist Steve Bannon gather and chant outside the 2016 Zionist Organization of America Annual Dinner in New York.

(Bryan R. Smith/EPA)

How much clearer can it get?

Stop normalizing this man. Stop calling him a hardcore conservative. He's much, much worse than that. He is being openly celebrated and adored by hate groups because they see him as one of them. They seem him as one of them because he is. Steve Bannon is a bigot. He has created a home for bigots and anti-Semites. His own boss complimented him by comparing him to a Nazi propagandist.

All of this comes as New York City experienced a staggering 31% increase in hate crimes in our city. Of course our police chief does not want to say, "Donald Trump caused this," but such a steep increase in hate comes from somewhere. Donald Trump and Steve Bannon are empowering and emboldening these elements in our country.

With every day that passes, our nation grows deeper in shame for who and what it has allowed to get this far. Mind you, all of this was known and widely shared about Steve Bannon before the election.

We live in a time where a man who empowers Neo-Nazis will be crafting policies and strategies in the highest, most important office in the land.

This is not a joke. This is not an exaggeration.

This is America. 2016.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/king-alt-right-full-nazi-bannon-lands-white-house-job-article-1.2882385

[Gaudet]

 

[runa]

10 hours ago, pjcowley said:

 

The other thing clearly disturbing is that you only see 35-45yo white male in that picture. 

This is very scary.

[Guest CzarnaWisnia]

^ that should be front page material on every newspaper... but there'll something about sports or some other pointless story.

[Guest Pud Whacker]

50 minutes ago, pjcowley said:

 

i dont know who's more dangerous?  i really dont.  ive talked about feeding the pot. but anyway,

arent those are reporters waiting to ask a question?

[Ciccone's Cheeks]

Only in a country where Gaga can still debut at #1 w/ 200k, Madonna and Hillary sell the most/win by big popular vote yet still 'lose' to total shit and Hamilton is STILL dominating the news...:# 

[Guest]

3 hours ago, Kim said:

Obviously hardly anyone is talking about it now, it's old news, but for that 48hr period it had far more traction on social media and news sites than anything else to do with Trump.

 

C'mon, Kimberly.  You know what I'm saying.  Neither of us get our news from social media.  

 

[LSD]

55 minutes ago, Pud Whacker said:

i dont know who's more dangerous?  i really dont.  ive talked about feeding the pot. but anyway,

arent those are reporters waiting to ask a question?

 

[Guest Pud Whacker]

3 minutes ago, LSD said:

 

UMMMMMMM. Who are these freaks?!

[Nessie]

9 minutes ago, LSD said:

 

Is this even legal in the US? 

[Guest CzarnaWisnia]

12 minutes ago, Nessie said:

Is this even legal in the US? 

If they're holding out guns it's legal (because of the 2nd amendment).

[ULIZOS]

This is like a bad joke 

 

Trump Airs Grievances, Fields Questions In Meeting With Top TV News Figures

 

Earlier Monday at Trump Tower in New York City, President-elect Donald Trump, top aides and advisers including Kellyanne Conway, Reince Priebus and Sean Spicer met with executives and anchors from five major television networks. Trump used the opportunity to admonish the network's journalists and executives for what he said was the networks' unfair coverage of him. But he also said he wanted to re-frame his relationship with the press and took extensive questions about policy and his intentions in office.

This account is largely based on an interview with an attendee who took detailed notes.

Among the participants from the news side were ABC's George Stephanopoulos and David Muir, NBC's Lester Holt and NBC news president Deborah Turness, CBS's John Dickerson, Gayle King, and Norah O'Donnell, Fox News' Bill Shine and Jay Wallace, MSNBC's Phil Griffin, and CNN's Wolf Blitzer and Jeff Zucker. The meeting's content was to be off-the-record but many participants were photographed as they entered through the Trump Tower lobby. The New York Post's Page Six gossip site had a detailed version that appeared to put the event in the most contentious light possible.

 

Trump started the meeting by saying how great it was for so many network news anchors to be there, calling it unprecedented and citing it as a reflection of the importance of his election. Ultimately, Blitzer noted that such meetings were a fairly common annual ritual between presidents and anchors ahead of State of the Union addresses. Trump then said the presence of the executives made the meeting unprecedented.

Trump lit out after Zucker, criticizing his former business partner (Zucker was head of NBC during Trump's Apprentice franchise on the network) for CNN. He turned then to NBC, saying it was the worst, criticizing its reporters, and saying it could not even come up with a flattering picture to broadcast. His complaint: the network's photographs showed him with multiple chins . NBC President Deborah Turness replied that wasn't true - NBC right now is using a photograph that shows Trump in very flattering way, she said. Trump also criticized a reporter who he said was in the room who had moderated a debate but who he had been told was very upset when Clinton lost. Presumably that was a reference to ABC's Martha Raddatz or NBC's Lester Holt.

Conway interceded to say that the new Trump administration appreciated the press corps's hard work during the campaign and wanted a reset on its relationship to the press. Trump concurred and repeated the point, though he said he disliked the phrase "reset" because it reminded him of Hillary Clinton's initial outreach to the Russians when she was starting as Secretary of State.

Trump said he wanted a relationship with the press that was "cordial and productive." CBS's Gayle King asked what would constitute such a relationship but it wasn't clear what that meant beyond off the record meetings such as that one.

After that first 10 to 15 minutes, according to this attendee, Trump invited questions about his policies, appointments, and intentions, showing an interest in detail and implications.

The participant who spoke to NPR said Trump appeared as though he was irritated but working the refs, as when then President George W. Bush complained the press was acting as the filter of his remarks and policies. However a second source - a network official debriefed by colleagues who attended - said it did not feel like a reset of the relationship to them.

The off-the-record meeting lasted about an hour. And Trump posted a video on social media - bypassing the conventional press - to explain to the public, on the record, how the presidential transition was proceeding.

[tumbleweedt]

 

[LSD]

 

[Rebel Saviour]

3 hours ago, LSD said:

 

[pieciolot]

You never know, Teresa May might grant his wish. After all she's desperate for special UK-US relations. 

[Kim]

6 hours ago, LSD said:

 

I was about to go on about how this would never happen blah blah, but I guess it's about time to accept that ANYTHING GOES in politics these days. So depressing.