BREXIT / British Politics thread

[karbatal]

To be fair politics now seem like an episode from Black Mirror.  Everything is so wrong and absurd 

[Gaudet]

9 hours ago, XXL said:

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/fashion/theresa-may-vogue-us-spread-fashion-style-first-uk-prime-minister-a7529061.html

Theresa May to feature in Vogue US spread becoming the first UK Prime Minister to do so

The PM will feature in the April issue of the respected fashion title

 

 

Theresa May will feature in a spread for the esteemed fashion magazine Vogue, Downing Street has confirmed. 

The Prime Minister will feature in the upcoming April issue in a spread shot by the respected fashion photographer Annie Leibovitz.

The longtime editor of the US title, Anna Wintour, was recently made a dame in the New Years Honours.

 

 

Ms Leibowitz – who is known for her empowering portraits of women – has previously shot Michelle Obama and Hillary Clintonfor the title. Last year, she photographed the Queen and the Royal Family to mark the monarch’s 90th birthday celebrations. 

Ms May’s affection for the publication has been made known before when she told BBC Radio 4's Desert Island Discs she would take a lifetime’s subscription of the magazine as her luxury item.

While the UK’s only other female Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher was photographed on four occasions for British Vogue, Ms May is the only PM to feature in the US title.

However, the Prime Minister’s penchant for fashion has, on occasion, prompted controversy. Last year, she was criticised by former education secretary Nicky Morgan, who she fired when she took over from David Cameron, for wearing leather trousers which cost £995 for a magazine spread.

Downing Street denied the shoot was scheduled to coincide with her first meeting with the President-elect Donald Trump.

“The long-planned shoot for US Vogue will come out in April,” a Number 10 spokesman told the Press Association.

She should appear in an obituary instead, along with her Tory and Brexiter chums.

[BrendanT1993]

Just thought I would update everyone on the goings on in Northern Ireland, if anyone even cares apart from me

We're heading for an election. yaaaaay for being canvassed by politicians i despise

No matter what result occurs from the forthcoming election, without extensive structural reform we will be back again with the same mess, but next time, it will be harder to build any trust not only between members, but between Ministers and all working within the machinery of government.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-38628367

Have also just been listening to Edwin Poots denying that his party signed up at St Andrews Agreement to the provision of an Irish Language Act. He Failed repeatedly to answer the question. Stephen Nolan, a broadcaster and journalist gave up in the end as he couldn't get a straight answer! Poots said that Gerry Adams and Tony Blair did a side deal on the Language Act.

It's in the fucking Agreement and Edwin's party signed up to it at the time.

Can or does anyone know about the the Renewable Heating Initiative (RHI) Scheme in England and if it is so flawed like here? Northern Ireland has officially gone to the dogs but the blame also lies with the British and Irish governments for investing in the Northern Ireland peace process yet over the past few years they haven't offered any support.

It appears Mummy and Daddy took the stabilizers off the bike before checking if we could ride the bike solo, we're now heading for the ditch

[Jazzy Jan]

On 18/01/2017 at 5:33 PM, BrendanT1993 said:

Just thought I would update everyone on the goings on in Northern Ireland, if anyone even cares apart from me

We're heading for an election. yaaaaay for being canvassed by politicians i despise

No matter what result occurs from the forthcoming election, without extensive structural reform we will be back again with the same mess, but next time, it will be harder to build any trust not only between members, but between Ministers and all working within the machinery of government.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-38628367

Have also just been listening to Edwin Poots denying that his party signed up at St Andrews Agreement to the provision of an Irish Language Act. He Failed repeatedly to answer the question. Stephen Nolan, a broadcaster and journalist gave up in the end as he couldn't get a straight answer! Poots said that Gerry Adams and Tony Blair did a side deal on the Language Act.

It's in the fucking Agreement and Edwin's party signed up to it at the time.

Can or does anyone know about the the Renewable Heating Initiative (RHI) Scheme in England and if it is so flawed like here? Northern Ireland has officially gone to the dogs but the blame also lies with the British and Irish governments for investing in the Northern Ireland peace process yet over the past few years they haven't offered any support.

It appears Mummy and Daddy took the stabilizers off the bike before checking if we could ride the bike solo, we're now heading for the ditch

Brendan,  Brexit sounds like a mess for Northern Ireland.   

[Gaudet]

Trade truths for Theresa May’s vision of a ‘Global Britain’

Five hurdles on the prime minister’s chosen path for the UK after Brexit

best picture ever of that demented fascist bipolar bitch

https://www.ft.com/content/65322fbc-dd34-11e6-9d7c-be108f1c1dce

 

In the meantime I had to wait 6 hours in an A&E hospital to get a specialist to see me, while I was in seriously excruciating pain. I wish all of you fucking Tories, Brexiters and UKIP ignorant cunts to desperately need to get treatment one day and wait a hell of a long time before someone can see you and maybe, only maybe provide you with medical assistance.

[BrendanT1993]

Jazzy,  I'm interested in a united Ireland, it's the only way I can see Northern Ireland surviving brexit, but the mechanics of achieving it trouble me, not least the deeply held and divided loyalities of many in the North/Northern Ireland. plus there would probably be a hard border and that frightens me, donald trumps mentality of keeping people out has been here ever since the brexit vote it seems

[Jazzy Jan]

6 hours ago, BrendanT1993 said:

Jazzy,  I'm interested in a united Ireland, it's the only way I can see Northern Ireland surviving brexit, but the mechanics of achieving it trouble me, not least the deeply held and divided loyalities of many in the North/Northern Ireland. plus there would probably be a hard border and that frightens me, donald trumps mentality of keeping people out has been here ever since the brexit vote it seems

Brendan, the world is a dreadful place at the moment and people are not learning from history.  Thanks for sharing your views here in this thread as always important to read the thoughts and opinions of people from different places and how it is effecting them.  

[karbatal]

On 19/1/2017 at 5:46 PM, pjcowley said:

Trade truths for Theresa May’s vision of a ‘Global Britain’

Five hurdles on the prime minister’s chosen path for the UK after Brexit

best picture ever of that demented fascist bipolar bitch

https://www.ft.com/content/65322fbc-dd34-11e6-9d7c-be108f1c1dce

 

In the meantime I had to wait 6 hours in an A&E hospital to get a specialist to see me, while I was in seriously excruciating pain. I wish all of you fucking Tories, Brexiters and UKIP ignorant cunts to desperately need to get treatment one day and wait a hell of a long time before someone can see you and maybe, only maybe provide you with medical assistance.

Those people will blame immigrants aa being the ones clogging the system. 

I read an article last week about trains for commuters being a daily nightmare too. 

How are schools?  Are there many cuts in budget there too? 

[Kim]

2 hours ago, karbatal said:

How are schools?  Are there many cuts in budget there too? 

The first thing that old crow did on becoming PM was announce her plans to reintroduce grammar schools (in England) basically segregating education based upon social class and a test given to 11/12 year olds to see whether they are intelligent enough to go to a *good* school or not. Good old fashioned Tory bullshit. Like she doesn't have better things to worry about.

 

[MeakMaker]

20 hours ago, Kim said:

The first thing that old crow did on becoming PM was announce her plans to reintroduce grammar schools (in England) basically segregating education based upon social class and a test given to 11/12 year olds to see whether they are intelligent enough to go to a *good* school or not. Good old fashioned Tory bullshit. Like she doesn't have better things to worry about.

 

Yes meanwhile in the real world they were testing nuclear weapons and no body knew a thing. And now she's refusing to even discuss it.

Oh to be a fly on the wall when she's meeting Trump and discuss Brexit. As much as I'd love the US and the UK to have better relations I don't see that happening with the orange one's rethorics on America first. No doubt the Donald will take advantage of Brexit making all the demands on the trade stipulations. May will have no option but accepting them and then she will be back claiming Trump saved the UK. Mark my words.

[karbatal]

Well negotiations can only start once the UK leaves the EU because no member can negotiate alone while being in the EU.  That means that all they talk will be nothing and will take years to materialise.  Trump or May can promise whatever they want at this stage. 

[Gaudet]

On 22/01/2017 at 7:53 PM, karbatal said:

Those people will blame immigrants aa being the ones clogging the system. 

I read an article last week about trains for commuters being a daily nightmare too. 

How are schools?  Are there many cuts in budget there too? 

Of course they do... immigrants are always the easy scapegoat :(

Anyway, yes public transport is a daily gamble: you never know if you are gonna get to your destination, even if you get prepared well in advance. I can only talk about traveling in the capital, no idea how it is to commute in other areas. When railway commuting trains work in the morning, getting you from point A to B on time, that is a true miracle. Rarely happens.

[Gaudet]

FLACCID USELESS CUNT!

Jeremy Corbyn's support for Brexit is inexcusable

Jeremy Corbyn’s behaviour over Brexit and his call for a three-line whip to pass a 137-word bill that serves to undermine parliamentary control over the most significant event in British history since the outbreak of the Second World War is simply inexcusable.

I did not join the Labour Party to support a movement that has aligned itself to the views and values of the Daily Mail, The Sun and the Telegraph: if I had wanted to do that I would have joined Ukip. Nor did I join the Labour Party that allows the UK to morph into what amounts to a one-party state, ruled by a supreme leader and a junta that clearly does not believe in parliamentary democracy, or common sense and British values. Welcome to post-truth Orwellian Britain. 

Our parliamentary democracy is supposed to work on the basis that the primary responsibility of all our MPs is to act responsibly to serve the national interest, not to kowtow to the populist vacuous rhetoric of those in our country that shout the loudest and who intimidate those who disagree with them. This is why you and our MPs take a parliamentary oath: MPs are supposed to be the trustees of the national interest and protectors of our parliamentary system – that is what they are all paid to do. It is profoundly worrying that Corbyn as leader of the largest opposition party (and most of his parliamentary colleagues for that matter) have forgotten what is at the heart of your job description.

Corbyn’s irresponsible actions and crass incompetence has left the United Kingdom without an  effective opposition. He continues to stand definitely at the helm, steering the Labour Party to race against the Tories to try and win the who looks most like UKIP race. In the meantime you have left the UK to march slowly but surely into the post-Brexit abyss in post-truth Orwellian Britain.

It is for these reasons that I am voting with my feet to leave the Labour Party to  join the Liberal Democrats. I can only hope that Corbyn has the good conscience and common sense to stand down as leader of the Labour Party to join a political party that is better aligned to his objectives: Ukip seems to be the obvious choice.  

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/letters/jeremy-corbyn-brexit-donald-trump-chelsea-manning-taxation-a7549896.html

 

[Gaudet]

Jeremy Corbyn faces more resignations, but even Blairites think he is right about Brexit

The Conservatives used to be divided over Europe. Now it is Labour. Any leader would struggle to contain the party’s differences

Any Labour leader would have problems managing the party’s response to the EU withdrawal Bill, Diane Abbott, the shadow Home Secretary, said today. She is absolutely right. The party has a structural fault. It supported staying in the EU, but when the people voted in the referendum to leave, it divided between those who accepted the result and those who want to fight it. 

Hence the resignations from Labour’s front bench as the vote on the Bill approaches. Jo Stevens, the MP for Cardiff Central, quit the shadow Cabinet today; Tulip Siddiq, the MP for Hampstead, resigned as a shadow junior minister yesterday. Their departures have little to do with Corbyn’s leadership and a lot to do with the new dividing line of British politics. 

Since the 1950s, Labour and the Conservatives have taken it in turn to be divided over Europe. First it was Labour, then, since the middle of Margaret Thatcher’s time, it was the Tories who were torn. Suddenly, on 24 June last year, the Tories snapped together, united (apart from Kenneth Clarke) behind Brexit. 

At the same time, Labour split. Jeremy Corbyn was on TV at 7.30am saying: “We must respect that result and Article 50 has to be invoked now.” Many in his party were horrified. They reacted viscerally rather than rationally, and launched a doomed challenge to his leadership behind a candidate, Owen Smith, who advocated a second referendum. 

Curiously, that leadership election concealed rather than exposed Labour’s division, because it was fought mostly on the proposition that Corbyn lacks any of the qualities of leadership required by a functioning opposition. This may be true but it was irrelevant while large numbers of Corbyn supporters felt he had not been given a fair chance to fail. 

But the division is deep and irreconcilable. It is not between Corbynites and non-Corbynites. After all, among Labour MPs there are hardly any Corbynites. Yet Corbyn finds himself on the side of the majority of the parliamentary party on the question of Brexit. 

That is because the breach has divided all factions in the party: Blairites, Corbynites and the group in the middle whom the Corbynites call Blairites but whom the Blairites blame for paving the way for Corbyn: the Brownites, Ed Miliband supporters and assorted fellow-travellers. 

Thus Siddiq, who resigned from the Labour front bench yesterday, is one of the MPs who nominated Corbyn. As is Clive Lewis, the MP for Norwich South who argued in shadow Cabinet against imposing a three-line whip but who didn’t resign yesterday. 

On the other hand Jo Stevens, who resigned from the shadow Cabinet this afternoon, is not a Corbynite. She supported Andy Burnham and Owen Smith in the last two leadership contests. 

I don’t know if she is a Blairite as such, but the Blairites-as-such are divided too. Tony Blair himself is the arch proponent of the second referendum position – although he phrases it carefully, as a matter of keeping options open. Many of the MPs who intend to vote against triggering Article 50 are identifiable Blairites, such as Ben Bradshaw, the MP for Exeter. 

Many other Blairites, however, accept the referendum as an instruction to get on with it. In most cases this follows their long-standing belief that the free movement of people in the EU should be curtailed. Thus Liz Kendall, Emma Reynolds and Chuka Umunna accept that Britain is leaving the EU and want to move the debate on to the terms of Brexit and the kind of country Britain will be outside the EU. 

The Labour split is not very equal. When MPs voted on a symbolic motion about Article 50 last month, only 23 voted against triggering it by Theresa May’s deadline of the end of March. Seven times as many, 150, voted in favour – one of them, incidentally, was Jo Stevens. That means 56 didn’t vote, but even if most of them vote against the Bill next week, plus a few switchers such as Stevens, there would be a two-to-one majority among Labour MPs for “getting on with it”. 

No doubt Corbyn could have managed the politics better. As Philip Collins, an actual Blairite, argues in The Times today, an effective leader would “change the subject as often as possible. Talk about the NHS, education and productivity.” 

But no leader could avoid the votes on the Bill to trigger Article 50. Suppose in an alternative history Labour had the cleverest Blairite leader – who wouldn’t allow herself to be identified as a Blairite, obviously – she would, I submit, adopt exactly the same position as Corbyn. She would ask her MPs to abstain on the timetable motion, so that Labour could not be portrayed as obstructing Brexit, and to vote for the Bill itself, with whatever amendments she could get, so that Labour could present itself as accepting the result of the referendum. 

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/jeremy-corbyn-brexit-article-50-resignations-blairites-think-he-is-right-a7549726.html

 

They all make me puke.

[Jazzy Jan]

What a revolting pair of people -  Donald Trump and Theresa May 

[karbatal]

How would people in UK feel that their prime minister is the first to go to lick Naranjito's ass????????  

[Gaudet]

1 hour ago, karbatal said:

How would people in UK feel that their prime minister is the first to go to lick Naranjito's ass????????  

Donald Trump: London to hold 'biggest protest ever' against US President

A Facebook event has already been created to stage a demonstration on the day of the US President's visit 

Campaigners are urging people to stage “the biggest protest ever” in London, when Donald Trump comes to the UK on a state visit later this year. 

Anti-Trump campaigners took to social media to call for a demonstration in the streets of the capital after Theresa May revealed the US President had accepted an invitation from the Queen. 

Many reacted with fury at the announcement, which was made during a joint press conference in the White House on Friday. 

Tom London tweeted: “When Trump [....] comes to the UK, let's have the biggest demo ever to let him and the world know he's not welcome by the British people.” 

Another person wrote: “Well done to her majesty for inviting Mr Trump to our country. Show him London he might even be able to spot a British person.” 

Ronnie Joice added: “When Trump comes to the UK, we need to organise the largest protest march ever staged. Bring London to a total standstill.” 

On Facebook , Kevin Wilsher  also wrote: “Looks like we may have some more protests coming in London. .....the Queen has invited Trump to visit… #justsaying.” 

A Facebook event has already been created by the organisation Stand Up To Racism to protest Mr Trump’s visit to the UK. 

The event has been temporarily organised for July 1, but it will be changed when a date for the visit is confirmed. 

Stop the War, People’s Assembly and Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament (CND) are also backing the event and are urging people to “oppose Trump's racism, sexism and bigotry”. 

“The invitation to Donald Trump for a state visit will be opposed by millions in Britain. Our government should not be seen to be endorsing the sorts of ideas and policies he is putting forward,” the event description adds. 

It comes after thousands of people took to the streets of London as part of the Women’s March campaign, which took place around the world following Mr Trump’s inauguration.

He has since made a series of widely condemned statements and signed a number of controversial executive orders, including those effectively banning all refugees and visitors from some Muslim-majority countries.

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/donald-trump-london-protest-demonstration-us-president-theresa-may-a7550591.html

[MeakMaker]

36 minutes ago, pjcowley said:

Donald Trump: London to hold 'biggest protest ever' against US President

A Facebook event has already been created to stage a demonstration on the day of the US President's visit 

Campaigners are urging people to stage “the biggest protest ever” in London, when Donald Trump comes to the UK on a state visit later this year. 

Anti-Trump campaigners took to social media to call for a demonstration in the streets of the capital after Theresa May revealed the US President had accepted an invitation from the Queen. 

Many reacted with fury at the announcement, which was made during a joint press conference in the White House on Friday. 

Tom London tweeted: “When Trump [....] comes to the UK, let's have the biggest demo ever to let him and the world know he's not welcome by the British people.” 

Another person wrote: “Well done to her majesty for inviting Mr Trump to our country. Show him London he might even be able to spot a British person.” 

Ronnie Joice added: “When Trump comes to the UK, we need to organise the largest protest march ever staged. Bring London to a total standstill.” 

On Facebook , Kevin Wilsher  also wrote: “Looks like we may have some more protests coming in London. .....the Queen has invited Trump to visit… #justsaying.” 

A Facebook event has already been created by the organisation Stand Up To Racism to protest Mr Trump’s visit to the UK. 

The event has been temporarily organised for July 1, but it will be changed when a date for the visit is confirmed. 

Stop the War, People’s Assembly and Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament (CND) are also backing the event and are urging people to “oppose Trump's racism, sexism and bigotry”. 

“The invitation to Donald Trump for a state visit will be opposed by millions in Britain. Our government should not be seen to be endorsing the sorts of ideas and policies he is putting forward,” the event description adds. 

It comes after thousands of people took to the streets of London as part of the Women’s March campaign, which took place around the world following Mr Trump’s inauguration.

He has since made a series of widely condemned statements and signed a number of controversial executive orders, including those effectively banning all refugees and visitors from some Muslim-majority countries.

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/donald-trump-london-protest-demonstration-us-president-theresa-may-a7550591.html

Count me in. I ll protest the orange monster till he kills me. And how dare Theresa May inviting him on behalf of the queen.. dont they know nobody likes Trump here? And then people voted for the antiestablishment... Anti establishment my ass.

[Lolo]

Is this really coming from the Queen? Is she loosing it? She used to be so popular the last couple of years...

[karbatal]

Doesn't the Queen always invite the president of the US when it's elected? 

[Kim]

The queen is a figurehead, nothing more or less. Does what she's told by the govt of the day. The look on that smug cunt's face when May congratulated him on his amazing win and extended an invite from old Lizzie was hilarious. 

Of course it's disgusting to see Granny May get her pussy metaphorically fisted by Trumpet, but she has no choice but go cap in hand around the world looking for whatever she can get because of Brexit. She's in Turkey today doing the same.

Jeremy Corbyn is an ineffectual zero and should hang his head in shame for ensuring there is NO effective opposition in the UK. He's a laughing stock and Labour are DEAD. Those that are actually STANDING UP for their beliefs by quitting and making it known that Brexit is simply the WRONG thing for the country are to be congratulated. The will of the people MY ARSE. If you know something is wrong and disastrous than have the guts to say it and do something about it. 

[Raider of the lost Ark]

For some reason I  have the strange feeling that the UK parliament will end the whole Brexit thing no matter if this ignores the peoples will, well a part of the people. But the Brexiteers have shown such a disgusting behaviour and now Theresa May crawling up Trumps ass that many feel like they will act like decent people if they reject the decision. Some people will be upset, but who cares? Those who organized the referendum only won because of telling lies and I'm sure if they were to hold a new referendum today people would most definitely not choose the Brexit.

[Kim]

2 minutes ago, Raider of the lost Ark said:

For some reason I  have the strange feeling that the UK parliament will end the whole Brexit thing no matter if this ignores the peoples will, well a part of the people. But the Brexiteers have shown such a disgusting behaviour and now Theresa May crawling up Trumps ass that many feel like they will act like decent people if they reject the decision. Some people will be upset, but who cares? Those who organized the referendum only won because of telling lies and I'm sure if they were to hold a new referendum today people would most definitely not choose the Brexit.

I wish, but at this point there's only ONE Tory planning to vote against, between 20-60 Labour, all the SNP, Greens and most Lib Dems. Nowhere near enough. There would need to be a Tory backbench rebellion. Not gonna happen. Unless something REALLY game-changing happens...you never know the way this world is going...

 

[Raider of the lost Ark]

3 minutes ago, Kim said:

I wish, but at this point there's only ONE Tory planning to vote against, between 20-60 Labour, all the SNP, Greens and most Lib Dems. Nowhere near enough. There would need to be a Tory backbench rebellion. Not gonna happen. Unless something REALLY game-changing happens...you never know the way this world is going...

 

The voters should call their representatives and give them hell. Make sure that they know that they will not vote for them again. If only enough people make their voices heard. Usually politicians would like to stick to their seats and the thought of loosing it because of a questionable decision may cause a change of mind. I think a lot of MPs are already uncomfortable with the whole thing because it is so unpredictable. Let's say the Brexit will cause immense damage to the UK those politicians will always be held accountable for their decision. Not a legacy politicians are looking forward to. They may say, they only did what the people voted for but believe me, this is not how people will remember it. People want to blame someone, people don't want to take responsibility.

[Kim]

15 minutes ago, Raider of the lost Ark said:

The voters should call their representatives and give them hell. Make sure that they know that they will not vote for them again. If only enough people make their voices heard. Usually politicians would like to stick to their seats and the thought of loosing it because of a questionable decision may cause a change of mind. I think a lot of MPs are already uncomfortable with the whole thing because it is so unpredictable. Let's say the Brexit will cause immense damage to the UK those politicians will always be held accountable for their decision. Not a legacy politicians are looking forward to. They may say, they only did what the people voted for but believe me, this is not how people will remember it. People want to blame someone, people don't want to take responsibility.

Well that's where moral fibre comes into it. Career politicians, of which there are many, are just there to fill their coffers and bank their pension, they will do whatever the party whip tells them, regardless of their constituents. Most of the Tory MPs (like most other parties) were against Brexit and here they are lining up like lemmings because they've been told to... to avoid a right wing rebellion in the Tory Party. They care about the here and now, they care about being in "power". The ones who actually care about the responsibility they have, and about the future, are showing their hands gradually. We shall see....

[Jazzy Jan]

J.K Rowling - love her opinions on Theresa May and Trump.  More

J.K. Rowling ‏@jk_rowling  2h2 hours ago

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May making her "strong statement about the role of women" there, by standing simpering next to a powerful racist.

 

J.K. Rowling ‏@jk_rowling  3h3 hours ago

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Americans telling me how ashamed they are: you've got a lot of company across the Atlantic today. #Chamberlain

 

[XXL]

12 hours ago, jazzyjan said:

What a revolting pair of people -  Donald Trump and Theresa May 

 

They think they need and will be able to do business with the Commonwealth countries ONLY, for good old Empire times sake. Talk about living in the past. Countries like Brasil, Russia, China and India are gearing up to crush the old Anglo-American geopolitical model of reference but these people and their puppetteers behind them don't seem to get it

 

I have an English friend in London who said to me "don't worry about Brexit, people like May, Johnson and Hammond are useless, if they continue leading this country the way they are carrying these Brexit negotiations, whether in the end this country stays in the EU or doesn't, whether the EU will exist or not in ten years time, this country is doomed either way"

[Gaudet]

Prevent Donald Trump from making a State Visit to the United Kingdom

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/171928

[LSD]

 

[Jazzy Jan]

48 minutes ago, LSD said:

 

Love her.  Wish more leaders worldwide had her convictions and ethics.