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The whole thing is so fucking weird. Part of me wonders if he could be innocent. There are some extreme inconsistencies in the case...What is it that he's in jail for? Kidnap of who?

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When he was trying to escape/ kill himself in the infamous Bronco I thought it was pretty clear he did it, but then after all that he claimed he was innocent. I knew once race came into play the jury was going to let him off.

I did hear one good alternate theory, that OJs son did it and OJ is covering for him. Supposedly the son- known for violent outburst and mental problems- invited Nicole and her party to a restaurant he was a chef at that night and she blew it off to go somewhere else.

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Of course he was guilty. Aren't you guys watching the series on tv? Defence had to play the race card to get him off because every trace of evidence screams he did it! And the fact the defence had to play dirty like that goes to show its never about race but it's about money. OJ was rich nobody cared that he was black but somehow the defence used that strategy to put doubts in the jury. If he was a nobody he would have been fried years ago.

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How did they find the knife 22 years later and not at the time? Instead of investigating current cases they're drudging up this from how many years ago. Celebrity obsessed society. It's crazy

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How did they find the knife 22 years later and not at the time? Instead of investigating current cases they're drudging up this from how many years ago. Celebrity obsessed society. It's crazy

Some people were doing works and they found it by accident.

When he was trying to escape/ kill himself in the infamous Bronco I thought it was pretty clear he did it, but then after all that he claimed he was innocent. I knew once race came into play the jury was going to let him off.

I did hear one good alternate theory, that OJs son did it and OJ is covering for him. Supposedly the son- known for violent outburst and mental problems- invited Nicole and her party to a restaurant he was a chef at that night and she blew it off to go somewhere else.

You know how many murderers say they didn't do it? I think it's not surprising to deny the fact you killed someone. So people think he's not guilty because he said he didn't do it. The cops that were accused to plant the evidence were from the LAPD but OJ was very friendly with the LAPD. Cops didn't frame him.. Cops loved him because he was a football hero! Didn't you see how they treated him throughout the whole thing?! If he was a nobody they would have shot him on the spot. So how these people would have a beef with him and frame him while they were adoring him?

He did it. Money and stupid people let him off!

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When he was trying to escape/ kill himself in the infamous Bronco I thought it was pretty clear he did it, but then after all that he claimed he was innocent. I knew once race came into play the jury was going to let him off.

I did hear one good alternate theory, that OJs son did it and OJ is covering for him. Supposedly the son- known for violent outburst and mental problems- invited Nicole and her party to a restaurant he was a chef at that night and she blew it off to go somewhere else.

This actually also seems like the most likely theory to me too. I also don't believe that ONE person could have been responsible for the killings. I actually tend to believe that it was drugs related and OJ's son was known to be involved in Cocaine and OJ and Nicole had been users. Once a drug ring of high rolling clients comes into play then anything can happen.

Of course he was guilty. Aren't you guys watching the series on tv? Defence had to play the race card to get him off because every trace of evidence screams he did it! And the fact the defence had to play dirty like that goes to show its never about race but it's about money. OJ was rich nobody cared that he was black but somehow the defence used that strategy to put doubts in the jury. If he was a nobody he would have been fried years ago.

You're basing the criminal evidence on a TV show that heavily features the Kardashian children despite them having pretty much fuck all to do with the actual case? :rotfl:

If you actually go and do some research you will see that an LAPD cop repeatedly pled the fifth in court when evidence of him being racist was brought against him. If you look at the American police force TODAY you can see a lot of racism. God knows what it was like 25 years ago before the internet and smartphones changed the world.

The police made HUGE mistakes at the time...including allowing people to repeatedly cross contaminate crime scenes. The blood on Nicole's doorstep was walked in by the whole team who were initially at the scene. This made it pretty much impossible to make clear matches of footprints or to isolate evidence. The blood stains on the handbrake/emergency brake (can't believe you guys call it that) were actually proven by forensic experts as being impossible to have been made by natural human action. Instead they came to conclude that they were created AFTER initial examination. Also, the blood that was on the gate at the rear of the property was proven to have been spread AFTER the initial examination. Reason being that it contained chemicals that are used in laboratories under blood examination. Fishy huh? There are also photographed blood splatters that are assumed to belong to the perpetrator. They were never examined or used as evidence. Why? Then there are obvious things like the planted/found gloves not fitting, there being DNA under Ron Goldman's nails that didn't belong to OJ and so on.

It's very possible that the LAPD were certain that it was OJ due to circumstantial evidence and therefore encouraged that view by messing with evidence. Even aside from the possibility of racism it could be due to the fact that the crime scenes had been mishandled by the LAPD and so they knew they couldn't gather relevant evidence for the courts. Considering it was such a high profile and very disturbing murder (very visceral crime scene) the police knew that it would become extremely newsworthy and would need it tied up as soon as possible. With that in mind they may have tampered with evidence or created false evidence for posterity.

The two victims were killed with a knife from behind with their mouthes covered. With the evidence that is available I have made two theories of my own.

Theory i) OJ Simpson hires a person or persons to kill Nicole. They watch the house and wait for a prime moment to kill Nicole. This could very much involve OJ's son in one way or another. The invite from Jason to visit his restaurant does sound potentially like it could be a good way to track Nicole's whereabouts etc. Some have suggested that Jason was so pissed off that his role in the restaurant (as a Chef) was being jeopardised due to not enough covers in the restaurant. I don't think that Nicole choosing to dine at another restaurant is enough of a motive to kill in this manner despite him suffering with mental issues and being a drug user. I just don't feel like that's how he would choose to do it. Even if he had plenty of sharps knives in his kitchen. What this may mean is that Jason was unable to sufficiently keep tabs on Nicole and her whereabouts which would have meant that the killers(s) didn't realise that Ron was expected to join Nicole at the house. In this version I don't think that Jason was the killer but rather unwittingly led to the killings. Eyewitnesses had reported that it was Jason and not OJ that had been stalking Nicole. Maybe OJ was paying Jason to keep tabs on Nicole with the aim of planning her physical demise.

Theory ii) Jason/drug dealing associate kills Nicole and Ron. To me this seems extremely likely and really covers a lot of bases in terms of evidence. If the two victims were killed simultaneously it means that they were killed upon Ron entering the property but that just doesn't seem likely to me unless Ron actually brought the killer in with him. You wouldn't usually allow somebody through a gate unless you really knew who they were and if they looked unusual you certainly might scream or argue at least. What would have been more likely is that a deal was set up (probably by Jason) which eventually led to Nicole and Ron meeting 'the dealer(s)' on the doorstep at a specified time. As the drug dealer or dealers were let through the gate they attacked both parties simultaneously and swiftly, exiting the crime scene as soon as they have done so. It's very possible that the identity of an entire drug ring was at risk of becoming known with an increasingly outspoken Nicole. With drugs there are ALWAYS secrets because of their illegal/antisocial nature.

NB: Some reports on the case have suggested that Nicole was held and made to watch Ron's death. There's no real evidence to support this though. I think that this came about due to OJ being considered as the killer and therefore it being a murder of passion.

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This actually also seems like the most likely theory to me too. I also don't believe that ONE person could have been responsible for the killings. I actually tend to believe that it was drugs related and OJ's son was known to be involved in Cocaine and OJ and Nicole had been users. Once a drug ring of high rolling clients comes into play then anything can happen.

You're basing the criminal evidence on a TV show that heavily features the Kardashian children despite them having pretty much fuck all to do with the actual case? :rotfl:

If you actually go and do some research you will see that an LAPD cop repeatedly pled the fifth in court when evidence of him being racist was brought against him. If you look at the American police force TODAY you can see a lot of racism. God knows what it was like 25 years ago before the internet and smartphones changed the world.

The police made HUGE mistakes at the time...including allowing people to repeatedly cross contaminate crime scenes. The blood on Nicole's doorstep was walked in by the whole team who were initially at the scene. This made it pretty much impossible to make clear matches of footprints or to isolate evidence. The blood stains on the handbrake/emergency brake (can't believe you guys call it that) were actually proven by forensic experts as being impossible to have been made by natural human action. Instead they came to conclude that they were created AFTER initial examination. Also, the blood that was on the gate at the rear of the property was proven to have been spread AFTER the initial examination. Reason being that it contained chemicals that are used in laboratories under blood examination. Fishy huh? There are also photographed blood splatters that are assumed to belong to the perpetrator. They were never examined or used as evidence. Why? Then there are obvious things like the planted/found gloves not fitting, there being DNA under Ron Goldman's nails that didn't belong to OJ and so on.

It's very possible that the LAPD were certain that it was OJ due to circumstantial evidence and therefore encouraged that view by messing with evidence. Even aside from the possibility of racism it could be due to the fact that the crime scenes had been mishandled by the LAPD and so they knew they couldn't gather relevant evidence for the courts. Considering it was such a high profile and very disturbing murder (very visceral crime scene) the police knew that it would become extremely newsworthy and would need it tied up as soon as possible. With that in mind they may have tampered with evidence or created false evidence for posterity.

The two victims were killed with a knife from behind with their mouthes covered. With the evidence that is available I have made two theories of my own.

Theory i) OJ Simpson hires a person or persons to kill Nicole. They watch the house and wait for a prime moment to kill Nicole. This could very much involve OJ's son in one way or another. The invite from Jason to visit his restaurant does sound potentially like it could be a good way to track Nicole's whereabouts etc. Some have suggested that Jason was so pissed off that his role in the restaurant (as a Chef) was being jeopardised due to not enough covers in the restaurant. I don't think that Nicole choosing to dine at another restaurant is enough of a motive to kill in this manner despite him suffering with mental issues and being a drug user. I just don't feel like that's how he would choose to do it. Even if he had plenty of sharps knives in his kitchen. What this may mean is that Jason was unable to sufficiently keep tabs on Nicole and her whereabouts which would have meant that the killers(s) didn't realise that Ron was expected to join Nicole at the house. In this version I don't think that Jason was the killer but rather unwittingly led to the killings. Eyewitnesses had reported that it was Jason and not OJ that had been stalking Nicole. Maybe OJ was paying Jason to keep tabs on Nicole with the aim of planning her physical demise.

Theory ii) Jason/drug dealing associate kills Nicole and Ron. To me this seems extremely likely and really covers a lot of bases in terms of evidence. If the two victims were killed simultaneously it means that they were killed upon Ron entering the property but that just doesn't seem likely to me unless Ron actually brought the killer in with him. You wouldn't usually allow somebody through a gate unless you really knew who they were and if they looked unusual you certainly might scream or argue at least. What would have been more likely is that a deal was set up (probably by Jason) which eventually led to Nicole and Ron meeting 'the dealer(s)' on the doorstep at a specified time. As the drug dealer or dealers were let through the gate they attacked both parties simultaneously and swiftly, exiting the crime scene as soon as they have done so. It's very possible that the identity of an entire drug ring was at risk of becoming known with an increasingly outspoken Nicole. With drugs there are ALWAYS secrets because of their illegal/antisocial nature.

NB: Some reports on the case have suggested that Nicole was held and made to watch Ron's death. There's no real evidence to support this though. I think that this came about due to OJ being considered as the killer and therefore it being a murder of passion.

Ron was dropping off glasses or something Nicole left behind at the restaurant on his way home. Do you think he was involved beyond that?

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Ron was dropping off glasses or something Nicole left behind at the restaurant on his way home. Do you think he was involved beyond that?

I think that's a case of saving face. I think they planned to spend the evening together.

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The series is based on a book that is basically a narrative of the events that happened during the whole thing. In fact I must say it's not biased at all. You watch it and you make up your own mind. The kardashians are featured because they are part of the true story. Peeps always wondered why they are famous or what they are famous for. Yes Kim did the sex tape but truth if she was a nobody no one would have cared but because she's the daughter of that kardashian who became famous thanks to the OJ Simpons story her sex tape was all over the Internet giving her lots of pubblicity. So yes I think the series is very accurate about the whole OJ Simpson drama.

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And sorry to break it to you but OJ had documented history of violence against Nicole. He was extremely jealous and possessive.. He even admitted himself to stalking her. A lot of women die as a result of domestic abuse. Their abusers are extremely unstable and they might overstep the mark by doing unthinkable things: killing them! OJ was jealous of Nicole. He killed her and her friend! He even wrote a book about how doing it. Nicole was petrified of him. She kept telling her friends he was going to kill her. I'm sorry but thinking he didn't do is just not rational.

And in any other case DNA evidence is never contested but when it's a high profile case they are always saying it is contaminated or it was wrongfully collected. It happened in the case of Amanda Knox when DNA evidence was completely rebuked because that's what the defence does! When the DNA itself attest someone's guilt then they always try to dismiss that DNA evidence that in every other case it would have guaranteed even the death penalty!

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That's exactly the point. If she was a nobody doing that sex tape with a rapper no one even remembers his name she wouldn't have had all that attention. At the time Kardashians only got to people's attention because of the OJ Simpson case. And of course it wasn't a huge thing but still Bob Kardashian was very close friends with OJ so he was involved with the case. You know how fame works... Same as Paris Hilton she did that sex tape and she became instantly famous. If she was a nobody she would have been just another slatlet trying to make it into the porn industry.

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Guest Rachelle of London

Oh please the kardashian Crap needs to stop. If you're basing your knowledge of the case from the television series created by the creator of Glee then good luck.

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I watched a lot of the news and reports at the time I don't even remember the name Kardashian. Kim's sex tape was with some rap star or something which is why it got attention, and she got her first bit of marketing.

Like anything else with a name the Kardashians attach themselves to it to capitalise on it. They did the same when Michael Jackson died. If they weren't famous then no way would the kids would've been featured in this new tele series at all.

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Oh please the kardashian Crap needs to stop. If you're basing your knowledge of the case from the television series created by the creator of Glee then good luck.

Meakmaker is the basicest bitch. Meakmaker I've watched the shitty tv show. It's hilarious. Robert Kardashian was not even close to being the most significant legal rep of OJ. The family has been shoehorned in so that stupid people like you find some 'modern cultural relevance' in it. Hilarious. Yeah Kris was friends with Nicole but Faye Resnick knew her too. They even mention Faye Resnick in the show. Like, really bitch?

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All I have to say is that Kris Jenner spends about half of her autobiography discussing the trial, while the birth of each of her kids got like 1 paragraph max. Poor Kendall and Kylie only got 2 sentences

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I watched a lot of the news and reports at the time I don't even remember the name Kardashian. Kim's sex tape was with some rap star or something which is why it got attention, and she got her first bit of marketing.

Same here. I can clearly remember a lot about the OJ case when it was happening and the names that were mentioned most. Clark, Cochran, Kaelin.....even Resnick as someone else mentioned. If Kardashian had major significance to the case, he certainly wasn't talked about like the others at that time. Seems like a little history is being rewritten here.

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Faye Resnick was Nicole's BFF and lover. She even threw shade at Kris Jenner on real housewives of Beverly Hills when she said she was Nicole's real best friend she's not just making it up on a reality show.

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